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| Jigsaw
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|  "Re(3):KOF 3D poll version 2!! more choice 2.1"
, posted Tue 20 May 14:42
I think it'll be interesting to see. One thing that separates this game from other 2D-Fighters-turned-3D, such as SF EX for instance, is that this one might actually have *GOOD* 3D graphics. I haven't seen any of the HNG64 SamSho's, or Wild Ambition, but I assume they aren't too hot in that department either.
So, even if the gameplay sucks, which I doubt (It may be different, but I don't think it'll be bad), I'm very much looking forward to see KOF characters in 3D. If the game is successful, maybe it'd help making SNK/Playmore more of a household name... If it isn't already, of course. I wouldn't really know, but over here it sure isn't.
Regardless, as far as i'm concerned, any news of new games coming from SNK are good news. :)
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| Luisinan 328th Post
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| "Re(4):KOF 3D poll version 2!! more choice 2.1" , posted Tue 20 May 15:55
Jigsaw brings up a good point. If a 3D KOF becomes popular, it might attract new fans to the 2D series. If this is the case, then SNK/Playmore needs to update 2D KOF graphics and probably should also move onto a better platform then the Neogeo.
What i mean is that, let's say, 3D KOF becomes popular with mainstream players-- then these folks might be interested in seeing where the favorite game originated, if they see the animation in 2D KOF, they'll probably say it sucks and not give it a second look.
I personally like the animation and the art style of 2D KOF. I hated it at first but grew to love it and really appreciate it now. But newbies always end up hating KOF graphics in the beginning. If they are true fans, they'll like it or ignore it. If you really like the game engine of a fighter, you'll overlook graphics (whether you like them or not).
Unfortunately, we're gonna have to wait a while till we see anything on this game. Sigh, I hate waiting!
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| Time Mage 1472th Post
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| "Re(3):Re(10):KOF 3D poll version 2!! more cho" , posted Wed 21 May 14:23
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Speaking for myself, I consider myself a 2D fan, especially considering a good 70% of the games I play were made before 1996, but I'm never averse to trying something new. People shouldn't limit themselves based on graphics, on either side of the isle. Of course, you have to deal with MANY more " 3D IS BETTER!!!! " freaks...
Yes, true but I dislike equally people who says "3D IS BETTER!!" and the ones that says "2D IS BETTER!!". Fanatism is bad, any kind of it. There are many 2D games that suck, and many others that are masterpieces. The same goes with 3D games.
Also, there are some games that could be better in 3D, and conversely, many 3D games could have been done better in 2D.
You can like 2D or 3D or 12D (well I think only Stephen Hawking likes 12 dimensional things...), but as long as you're open minded about the games that will come, it's OK for me.
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| Sensenic 611th Post
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| "Re(4):Re(10):KOF 3D poll version 2!! more cho" , posted Wed 21 May 14:25
Voted the second one, more or less because:
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Speaking for myself, I consider myself a 2D fan, especially considering a good 70% of the games I play were made before 1996, but I'm never averse to trying something new. People shouldn't limit themselves based on graphics, on either side of the isle. Of course, you have to deal with MANY more " 3D IS BETTER!!!! " freaks...
Yes, true but I dislike equally people who says "3D IS BETTER!!" and the ones that says "2D IS BETTER!!". Fanatism is bad, any kind of it. There are many 2D games that suck, and many others that are masterpieces. The same goes with 3D games.
Also, there are some games that could be better in 3D, and conversely, many 3D games could have been done better in 2D.
You can like 2D or 3D or 12D (well I think only Stephen Hawking likes 12 dimensional things...), but as long as you're open minded about the games that will come, it's OK for me.
You two said it all in there, thanks ^_^
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| RugalBernstein 4050th Post
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| "Re(2):Re(10):KOF 3D poll version 2!! more cho" , posted Wed 21 May 15:24:
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SNK does not have very 3D-minded developers, which is what makes me apprehensive. I've seen and played some of the Samurai Shodown and Fatal Fury 3D games, and while they're not horrible, there is absolutely no reason for them to be 3D. NONE. Apparently this idea of a 3D game they used is to take a 2D design and add polygons and a sidestep. Sure if you look at them, they added some concepts, but just about every one of those concepts could have been done in 2D. Why bother making them 3D if there's hardly anything 3D about it? The only simple answer I can think of is "because it's easier." I don't WANT to believe that, but I can't think of another reason if they're going to keep using this 2D design.
Just because a game is made with polygons doesn't mean it has to play like a 3D game. Perhaps you think Klonoa sucks because there was no reason for it to be 3D, as well?
Edit: Actually, this brings a larger issue to mind. People complain about pretty much every new 2D fighter that comes out, and then they complain when there's a chance it might end up being 3D. For God's sake, people, WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY? I'm happy there are any 2D fighters being made at all nowadays. Take what you can get, you should be GLAD there are companies that still give a rat's ass about the 2D fighting market. Give them a break, and stop the whining.
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IMO, that's also why CFAS failed before it was even finished.
Eh? When did this happen? The whole rumour that it has been cancelled was dispelled a while ago.
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| Juan 3187th Post
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| "Re(5):Re(10):KOF 3D poll version 2!! more cho" , posted Wed 21 May 17:00:
If Capcom USA was the one interviewed theres a big chance for error. Since they really dont get the news right away and sincerely the only news they want to know is $$$ (the image of a middle aged guy going bald comes to mind.)
Plus you have the facts that Rugal pointed out, emails sent before to the Japanese branch, etc. Now if y'all dont want to follow common logic, thats fine, since apparently in order for facts to make sense they have to be said by a BIG PERSON.
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In the recent interview with Capcom by Trieu, it was said CFAS was finally canned for real. However, I still see on Capcom's page still going for a "Spring releasse date" And It's supposed to be released in the Arcade in July.
Plus, the page is still up, and on a Japanese message board I poke around in, they're still discussing it. Plus, they've already made Ingrid gashapon toys. Just what is going on here?
Edit: Plus, they've updated their site as recently as the 5/21, and it's still on the release list.
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| Gojira 968th Post
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| "Re(3):Re(10):KOF 3D poll version 2!! more cho" , posted Thu 22 May 15:22:
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Just because a game is made with polygons doesn't mean it has to play like a 3D game. Perhaps you think Klonoa sucks because there was no reason for it to be 3D, as well?
"Suck" is a word I never used. "Pointless" is more like it. And yes, Klonoa is pointless for doing that. But Namco doesn't have anything to prove; Klonoa was more of a departure for them than something they didn't have the ability to expand on, because we've seen what they're capable of. It's harder to say that about SNK's 3D games because I haven't seen them do better, so I don't even know if they CAN do better. For me that makes it difficult to get excited about the prospect of a 3D game from them. I want them to surprise me, but I don't have enough faith that they will.
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Edit: Actually, this brings a larger issue to mind. People complain about pretty much every new 2D fighter that comes out, and then they complain when there's a chance it might end up being 3D. For God's sake, people, WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY? I'm happy there are any 2D fighters being made at all nowadays. Take what you can get, you should be GLAD there are companies that still give a rat's ass about the 2D fighting market. Give them a break, and stop the whining.
I'm happy 2D fighters are still being made too, but I'm not so shameless I'll take anything they throw at me. Especially if it looks like the same thing they threw at me last year.
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IMO, that's also why CFAS failed before it was even finished.
Eh? When did this happen? The whole rumour that it has been cancelled was dispelled a while ago.
Maybe it's not cancelled yet, but we're still not seeing anything new from the game this close to the release date.
Anyway, whether it's cancelled or not is beyond the point; the rumor exists for a reason: people who played it thought it was uninteresting. Before the beta test, nobody thought the game would be cancelled. After people had played it, that all changed. Whether Capcom is canning it or busting their asses trying to rework it from the ground up, neither of those is something you do to a successful design. That is why I say it failed.
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