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OYashiroForever
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"SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Fri 16 May 13:11

I figured the old thread was getting a little unsightly, so here's another. Talk amongst yourselves... I'll give you some topics:

1) Given how good this game looks (aesthetically), how many more characters will we see? (given cart restrictions)

2) Is Bison/Balrog(boxer)'s character art the most ridiculous thing Nona's ever done? (Yurizilla not withstanding)

3) Is the fact that the KoF peeps are old sprites with better animation going to totally ruin the game for you? (the grammar looks alright, but that sentence just sounds weird)

4) Are Gouki/Mr. Karate bosses? (perhaps sub-bosses or hidden bosses like God Rugal/Shin Gouki in CvS2)

5) Predictions for remaining roster (if applicable) given who we've already seen?

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Freeter

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"Re(1):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Fri 16 May 14:09

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3) Is the fact that the KoF peeps are old sprites with better animation going to totally ruin the game for you? (the grammar looks alright, but that sentence just sounds weird)

As long as the sprites are back to their 98-2000 colored glory, it'll be fine. I really think they should've given Kyo his new outfit though, since he has more frames than his dated schoolboy self.

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"Re(1):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Fri 16 May 14:15

quote:

1) Given how good this game looks (aesthetically), how many more characters will we see? (given cart restrictions)

Beings that the cart restrictions have been broken many times in the past, I can't say. I think there will be two more usable characters and two bosses, though; I won't rule out hidden charas, but I doubt it.

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4) Are Gouki/Mr. Karate bosses? (perhaps sub-bosses or hidden bosses like God Rugal/Shin Gouki in CvS2)

I seriously doubt they're bosses, considering they're default usable, and they CERTAINLY aren't "hidden" bosses, considering they... well, aren't hidden.

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5) Predictions for remaining roster (if applicable) given who we've already seen?

No clue. I want Jenet, Kula, or some actual villainage, but who knows what we'll get.

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Genjuro

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"Re(1):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Fri 16 May 14:19

The graphics looked like they always do I guess..:) -which is no bad thing.The game looked to be running at a fast speed judging from the video..It reminds of the first KOF2k2 vids that were released-it looked much faster than all previous KOFs to me(from the videos at least)
My estimate for the roster counting secret characters is that there won't be more than 30.My guess is about 27..Genjuro better be in it..cause I guess Hibiki won't..However if the game gets released on PS2(almost a certainty I supose especially after reading the interview Shyeim posted) they could add some extra characters..(I know that's a bit too much to ask..)

BTW,the music from the trailer IS the music from Last Blade remixed..and it's great..

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"Re(2):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Fri 16 May 18:53

I'm badly anticipating to see the last character announcements before this hits at the end of June.

Wonder how Nona would draw Talbain and Cammy? O_O

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"Re(1):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sat 17 May 03:29

quote:

1) Given how good this game looks (aesthetically), how many more characters will we see? (given cart restrictions)

I tink we'll see 8 more characters; 3 for each side, plus bosses.

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2) Is Bison/Balrog(boxer)'s character art the most ridiculous thing Nona's ever done? (Yurizilla not withstanding)

Yep, and I love it.

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3) Is the fact that the KoF peeps are old sprites with better animation going to totally ruin the game for you? (the grammar looks alright, but that sentence just sounds weird)

Not really, although I would also prefered a more recent (99-2002) Kyo sprite.

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4) Are Gouki/Mr. Karate bosses? (perhaps sub-bosses or hidden bosses like God Rugal/Shin Gouki in CvS2)

I hope not.

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5) Predictions for remaining roster (if applicable) given who we've already seen?

Not a prediction, but a wishlist. I want Athena (in 2002 or brand new costume), Heidern, and Billy Kane. For the Capcom, side, I'd expect a Darkstalkers character, a Project Justice character, and Dan (the lovechild of the Capcom/SNK rivalry).

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talbaineric

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"Re(2):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sat 17 May 07:32

OMG! I just realized! O_O No Zangeif? That is shocking. Well,Hugo is a funnier choice.^_^ And it's time for Zan to rest anyway. He's boring.

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Jigsaw
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"Re(1):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sat 17 May 07:35

quote:

1) Given how good this game looks (aesthetically), how many more characters will we see? (given cart restrictions)

I honestly don't think the size of the roster will be heavily affected by the cart restrictions, but I guess we might see maybe 8 or so more characters.

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2) Is Bison/Balrog(boxer)'s character art the most ridiculous thing Nona's ever done? (Yurizilla not withstanding)

Dunno. I kinda like it. :)

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3) Is the fact that the KoF peeps are old sprites with better animation going to totally ruin the game for you?

It would've been nice to see the game in a Garou/Real Bout/Last Blade kind of graphical style, which was what I had first expected, but I can't really say I'm dissappointed. I think the game looks awesome!

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4) Are Gouki/Mr. Karate bosses? (perhaps sub-bosses or hidden bosses like God Rugal/Shin Gouki in CvS2)

Dunno. In a way, it would be more fun to have more menacing, 'boss-like' characters (especially for the Capcom side), but if Gouki and Mr.Karate turn out to be the bosses, I'd be okay with that. Actually, I like Mr.Karate, (he's approx 34126 times cooler than Rugal) it's mostly Gouki i'm somewhat dissatisfied with... Having them as hidden bosses would be cool, too. :)

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5) Predictions for remaining roster (if applicable) given who we've already seen?

I think that maybe we can expect to see more 'evil'/villain characters, there doesn't seem to be that many in the current roster. Also, dunno if it means much, but ATM the SNK side has one more female character than the Capcom, so if we get to see more characters, I suppose there is a SLIGHT chance one of them could be Cammy. ;D

I'm totally talking out of my ass right now though... xD

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"Re(2):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sat 17 May 09:35

I think it's worth mentioning that if you look at the SVC character page and highlight all of the images, there are two more spaces for characters, with one on the SNK side and another on the Capcom side. So with 20 playable characters so far and 2 spaces left over, I don't think this game is going to hit the 30 character mark. There will probably be two more characters, then one or two hidden for each side, and then the bosses, assuming that Gouki and Mr. Karate aren't the bosses.

Rugal:

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I seriously doubt they're bosses, considering they're default usable, and they CERTAINLY aren't "hidden" bosses, considering they... well, aren't hidden.

I think he meant hidden bosses in the sense that Kyo and Iori were hidden bosses in KOF99 or that Kula was in 2k. They might be mid-bosses or extra bosses, provided that you do whatever you need to to unlock them.

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"Re(3):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sat 17 May 10:14

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I think he meant hidden bosses in the sense that Kyo and Iori were hidden bosses in KOF99 or that Kula was in 2k. They might be mid-bosses or extra bosses, provided that you do whatever you need to to unlock them.

Again, if they're listed in the character roster from the start, and are in the intro, they aren't going to be hidden (and most likely won't be bosses, who rarely even get official portraits until after the game has been out for some time; Zero didn't get a portrait until KOF 2000 came out for the home cart). Kyo and Iori are not default usable in KOF '99, and Kula isn't in 2000. ;D

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hasukii

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"Re(1):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sat 17 May 10:16

for me .. so far so good ... thank god no striker .. LOL

graphic - ok for me

game system - good !

groove ? = good ...

story ? dont know .. lol

hmmm ?

Ishmael

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"Re(1):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sat 17 May 13:30

quote:
I figured the old thread was getting a little unsightly, so here's another. Talk amongst yourselves... I'll give you some topics:

1) Given how good this game looks (aesthetically), how many more characters will we see? (given cart restrictions)

However many we get someone's going to say it's not enough and/or that the wrong characters were chosen. [Gee, I'm in an optimistic mood this afternoon.]

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2) Is Bison/Balrog(boxer)'s character art the most ridiculous thing Nona's ever done? (Yurizilla not withstanding)

I expect even stranger art from Nona in the future. Nona is an artist who has never let me down in providing art that stuns and mystifies.

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3) Is the fact that the KoF peeps are old sprites with better animation going to totally ruin the game for you? (the grammar looks alright, but that sentence just sounds weird)

If I was going to worry about re-used animation I would have had to abandoned both 2D and 3D games a long time ago.

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4) Are Gouki/Mr. Karate bosses? (perhaps sub-bosses or hidden bosses like God Rugal/Shin Gouki in CvS2)

They'll end up being the main characters the way Bison and Geese somehow became the pivitol characters in CvS1.

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5) Predictions for remaining roster (if applicable) given who we've already seen?

Since the popular feeling is that the SvC webpage has room for two more characters I'll pick one from each company. SNK currently has one more female character than Capcom plus there has yet to be anybody from the SFA roster added to the game. So going with the female SFA roster I'm guessing they'll go for one of the younger girls so the slot will either go to Sakura with CvS style of playing or -if they want to shake things up and have a counter character to counter Kasumi's counters- the counter queen Karin.

On the SNK side unless Earthquake has been shifted in his style of gameplay there isn't a grappler character to be seen. Seeing as how the programmers haven't met a KoF sprite they didn't like the character will probably come from that roster. Clark might be a choice but since he and Ralf are practically joined at the hip I don't see the Ikari team getting split up. My guess is it will come down to either Maxima or, hopefully, Goro.

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"Re(2):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sat 17 May 15:28

i'm already a bit disappointed with the roster, so i won't bother with my character wishlist. what i really want is for playmore to have some balls and update all the characters move lists, especially capcom's side. ryu, ken, and gouki really need a few more exclusive moves to add variety to their play

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"Re(4):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sat 17 May 16:04

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and Kula isn't in 2000. ;D

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"Re(5):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sat 17 May 16:29

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and Kula isn't in 2000. ;D

He means by default. You have to unlock her.

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"Re(2):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sat 17 May 18:11

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Actually, I like Mr.Karate, (he's approx 34126 times cooler than Rugal)....

Really? I guess you must like Ryo too, then, considering Mr. Karate is just a sped-up Ryo with a mask mapped over his face. ;D

And yeah, looking back at the Kula thing, it reads a bit oddly; I meant that she isn't default selectable EITHER, just like Kyo and Iori.... as Freeter pointed out.

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"Ok, did anyone notice the gameplay?" , posted Sat 17 May 21:59

Looking at the footage, I did notice a few interesting things (which I hope will be cleared up in the betatesting):

Characters have a MvC styled dash NOT a KoF styled hop forward. I know, I watched the footage about 5 or six times very carefully then fired up KoF 98. Kyo and Ryo have completely different dash animation. Though for kyo, it looks like just a couple frames taken from his run animation, Ryo I'm not too sure.

I saw Ryo do some sort of Counter Movement (moved forward with blue afterimage) and looking carefully, it did NOT take up any super meter. I also saw Ken simply punch Ryo, and Ryo's super meter went down 0_o

It LOOKS like they have a standard (C-Groove) like bar, except in the Kyo/Ryu match I noticed that once it reaches Max, it says Maximum and starts to degenerate. Maybe a gauge that mixes CvS2's N Groove and C Groove together?

Either way, looking at this the gameplay sure looks promising. Just thought I'd make a comment on the gameplay instead of the current roster for once.

Taa kun

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"Re(1):Ok, did anyone notice the gameplay?" , posted Sun 18 May 00:49:

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Characters have a MvC styled dash NOT a KoF styled hop forward. I know, I watched the footage about 5 or six times very carefully then fired up KoF 98. Kyo and Ryo have completely different dash animation. Though for kyo, it looks like just a couple frames taken from his run animation, Ryo I'm not too sure.

About the dash system, it's clearly stated and detailed in the last edition of Arcadia : it's the same thing as MotW, you can cancel your dash with everything.
I hope it won't open the door to 'Kevin like' abuses...

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"Re(3):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sun 18 May 03:37

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Really? I guess you must like Ryo too, then, considering Mr. Karate is just a sped-up Ryo with a mask mapped over his face. ;D

Of course, what is there NOT to like about Ryo? :D Seriously, though, I was mostly thinking of the concept, not the gameplay... And honestly, Mr. Karate is probably as far from any other 'karate guy' character you'll get. ^_^

Also, the main reason I dislike Rugal is the fact that we've seen way too much of him. IMO, he's probably the worst KOF boss (design wise) and still we get him shoved down our throats again and again... ;/

the REAL master
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"Re(4):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sun 18 May 10:56

I love Mr. Karate no doubt one of the best, but man... how does rugal have the worse boss design? that dude is a hog...

he's got a air counter, deflector, long range hits, good rush moves, and 2 of the best projectiles ever slapped into a game!!!! But i hope mr. karate wil be good, hopefully it wont be kof takuma

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"Re(5):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sun 18 May 11:10

*checks front page* Haha, I got credited for the discovery of Kasumi and co? Thanks Prof. ^_^;

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"Re(5):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sun 18 May 11:14

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I love Mr. Karate no doubt one of the best, but man... how does rugal have the worse boss design? that dude is a hog...

he's got a air counter, deflector, long range hits, good rush moves, and 2 of the best projectiles ever slapped into a game!!!! But i hope mr. karate wil be good, hopefully it wont be kof takuma

I liked how Capcom had Rugal in his tuxedo in the CvS series. I mean the man HAS TO BE HARD to whip your ass in a TUX! I mean how great is that.

Anyway, as long as this game has an updated Geese that plays somewhat like he did in CvS2 then I'll be happy.

As for the character roster, well, there's 20 right now right? Plus there's room for 2 more (possibly bosses) and there's supposed to be 4 hidden characters from what I read in an interview with a SNK rep. I'll try to find it, but I think it was somewhere at Link Here

so, 26 isn't that bad. Plus, they may be more hidden characters in the PS2, DC, etc. versions, I mean it happened with KOF2k2, why not SvC?

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"Re(6):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sun 18 May 11:15

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*checks front page* Haha, I got credited for the discovery of Kasumi and co? Thanks Prof. ^_^;

I never get credited for anything, I actually did come here and discover something first and still didn't get credit. Well, that's OK, as long as everyone knows, that's all I care about.

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"Re(7):SvC Chaos E3/4 Newbies Thread Mach 2" , posted Sun 18 May 19:28

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*checks front page* Haha, I got credited for the discovery of Kasumi and co? Thanks Prof. ^_^;

I never get credited for anything, I actually did come here and discover something first and still didn't get credit. Well, that's OK, as long as everyone knows, that's all I care about.

I got credited once for discovering new CvS2 screens.

Ah,the memory. :p

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