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| Riskbreaker
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|  "Snk vs Capcom at E3 Info? PICTURES!!!!!!!!"
, posted Wed 14 May 16:16:
I copied and pasted a post from ahvbewgf of SRK.com. I'm not sure if its legit though. *UPDATE* Oh I found some pics of the game click on the link below
Link Here
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Hey whats up, I am here at e3. I saw SVC, they are running a video every 2 hours in the SNK section (which features a kof 2001 arcade machine and the home version of 2000, plus metal slug). The game looks pretty cool:
*Its running on the neo geo
*Intro screens are shown on video, I was told that the story is Akuma and Mr Karate (or basically an old guy with a giant nose kabuki style demon mask) are the main guys.
*No new characters revealed.
*Lifebar is double lifebar, like some fatal fury games. Not two stacked on top of each other
*Seems like there is 3 super levels.
*Ryu looks really cool, basically done in KOF style, looks like SF3 style. The charachters look much more compatabile with each other then the ones in CVS.
*The capcom characters were doing quick dashes and stuff like KOF guys. Although I dont know much about either series (mk2 and umk3 fan here myself), it looked like it played basically KOF style.
*Earthquake is extremely big, basically like a sentinal
*backgrounds look really good, they aren't cheap looking like modern kof backgrounds, they are more like street fighter alpha 2 backgrounds.
Thats about it
[this message was edited by Riskbreaker on Wed 14 May 16:37] |
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| GekigangerV 440th Post
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| "Re(1):Snk vs Capcom at E3 Info?" , posted Wed 14 May 16:19
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I copied and pasted a post from ahvbewgf of SRK.com. I'm not sure if its legit though.
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Hey whats up, I am here at e3. I saw SVC, they are running a video every 2 hours in the SNK section (which features a kof 2001 arcade machine and the home version of 2000, plus metal slug). The game looks pretty cool:
*Its running on the neo geo
*Intro screens are shown on video, I was told that the story is Akuma and Mr Karate (or basically an old guy with a giant nose kabuki style demon mask) are the main guys.
*No new characters revealed.
*Lifebar is double lifebar, like some fatal fury games. Not two stacked on top of each other
*Seems like there is 3 super levels.
*Ryu looks really cool, basically done in KOF style, looks like SF3 style. The charachters look much more compatabile with each other then the ones in CVS.
*The capcom characters were doing quick dashes and stuff like KOF guys. Although I dont know much about either series (mk2 and umk3 fan here myself), it looked like it played basically KOF style.
*Earthquake is extremely big, basically like a sentinal
*backgrounds look really good, they aren't cheap looking like modern kof backgrounds, they are more like street fighter alpha 2 backgrounds.
Thats about it
Thanks for relaying that info. So does display of KOF2K mean its coming out on consoles in the US? Hopefully we get some new characters revealed soon as well as screenshots.
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| ShadowSonic
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| "Re(1):Snk vs Capcom at E3 Info? PICTURES!!!!!" , posted Wed 14 May 19:55
The sprites are not totally recycled. Notice that the average sprite size is larger than that of the KOF games? They must have done some serious redrawing.
In one of the videos I saw Kyo using PowerMAX mode (from KOF02). Looks like they retained it for SvC.
Looking good so far...downloading a lot of videos right now.
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Hey whats up, I am here at e3. I saw SVC, they are running a video every 2 hours in the SNK section (which features a kof 2001 arcade machine and the home version of 2000, plus metal slug). The game looks pretty cool:
*Its running on the neo geo
*Intro screens are shown on video, I was told that the story is Akuma and Mr Karate (or basically an old guy with a giant nose kabuki style demon mask) are the main guys.
*No new characters revealed.
*Lifebar is double lifebar, like some fatal fury games. Not two stacked on top of each other
*Seems like there is 3 super levels.
*Ryu looks really cool, basically done in KOF style, looks like SF3 style. The charachters look much more compatabile with each other then the ones in CVS.
*The capcom characters were doing quick dashes and stuff like KOF guys. Although I dont know much about either series (mk2 and umk3 fan here myself), it looked like it played basically KOF style.
*Earthquake is extremely big, basically like a sentinal
*backgrounds look really good, they aren't cheap looking like modern kof backgrounds, they are more like street fighter alpha 2 backgrounds.
Thats about it
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| justicekyo 565th Post
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| "Re(1):Snk vs Capcom at E3 Info? PICTURES!!!!!" , posted Wed 14 May 23:58
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I copied and pasted a post from ahvbewgf of SRK.com. I'm not sure if its legit though. *UPDATE* Oh I found some pics of the game click on the link below
Link Here
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Hey whats up, I am here at e3. I saw SVC, they are running a video every 2 hours in the SNK section (which features a kof 2001 arcade machine and the home version of 2000, plus metal slug). The game looks pretty cool:
*Its running on the neo geo
*Intro screens are shown on video, I was told that the story is Akuma and Mr Karate (or basically an old guy with a giant nose kabuki style demon mask) are the main guys.
*No new characters revealed.
*Lifebar is double lifebar, like some fatal fury games. Not two stacked on top of each other
*Seems like there is 3 super levels.
*Ryu looks really cool, basically done in KOF style, looks like SF3 style. The charachters look much more compatabile with each other then the ones in CVS.
*The capcom characters were doing quick dashes and stuff like KOF guys. Although I dont know much about either series (mk2 and umk3 fan here myself), it looked like it played basically KOF style.
*Earthquake is extremely big, basically like a sentinal
*backgrounds look really good, they aren't cheap looking like modern kof backgrounds, they are more like street fighter alpha 2 backgrounds.
Thats about it
This looks too good.
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| EddyT
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| "Re(2):Wow, I'm... uh... yeah" , posted Thu 15 May 01:46
Riskbreaker: I will ask someone at SNKNeoGeo's booth about the release date of Metal Slug 3 for PS2. It seems that it will definitely come here to the US, with the menus in full English and all. My friend, who is an avid Geo fan, says he felt the conversion was well-done and did not see any discreptancies between this version and the home/MVS versions.
SvC Chaos: The game looks very good on the footage I saw. Ryu and Ken's sprites look very inspired by their Turbo SF sprites. You can totally tell when you see Ken's crouching block and standing animations. Ryu looks like he plays very similar to his N-Groove self in CvS2, complete with ground dash and overall movement.
Ryo and Kyo seem to look exactly like sprites from previous KOF incarnations. Kyo looks exactly like his KOF '94 self, while Ryo assumes his open stance sprites in KOF '98.
Tabasa and Earthquake were the most intriguing out of the 3 sample matches that were shown on the reel, due to their new sprites. Unlike CvS2, they don't look over-animated or done in a significantly better quality than the rehashed sprites (like comparing CvS2 Mai to CvS2 Sakura or Morrigan). The result is a much more consistent game.
I will post more E3 impressions in another thread, if anyone is interested.
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| Time Mage 1451th Post
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| "Re(1):Wow, I'm... uh... yeah" , posted Thu 15 May 04:56
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I regret to say this is much less than I expected. The intro is impressive, but if this game is supposed to draw me in visually then these pics and vids had better not be doing it justice. I see nothing significantly different about the reused sprites, and I see none of this supposed MotW-quality animation... in fact the animation quality seems to fall somewhere between KoF94 and SF2. I really don't know what to make of this.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and in case no one's noticed, the vid is up at Trieu's site now.
I'm also a bit dissapointed.
I mean, I had for granted redrawn sprites for all, and I'm seeing Kyo and Ryo KOF-style.
I haven't seen the video yet, and I'll probably change my opinion after seeing it, but as for now... Good, but not up to my (admittedly high) expectations.
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| ShadowSonic
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| "Re(1):Snk vs Capcom at E3 Info? PICTURES!!!!!" , posted Thu 15 May 05:15
Check Playmore's site.
Mr Karate, Kasumi Todo, Balrog/Vega and M.Bison/Balrog have been added to the roster.
Kasumi + Mr Karate = good.
Balrog = OK.
M. Bison = Crap.
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Hey whats up, I am here at e3. I saw SVC, they are running a video every 2 hours in the SNK section (which features a kof 2001 arcade machine and the home version of 2000, plus metal slug). The game looks pretty cool:
*Its running on the neo geo
*Intro screens are shown on video, I was told that the story is Akuma and Mr Karate (or basically an old guy with a giant nose kabuki style demon mask) are the main guys.
*No new characters revealed.
*Lifebar is double lifebar, like some fatal fury games. Not two stacked on top of each other
*Seems like there is 3 super levels.
*Ryu looks really cool, basically done in KOF style, looks like SF3 style. The charachters look much more compatabile with each other then the ones in CVS.
*The capcom characters were doing quick dashes and stuff like KOF guys. Although I dont know much about either series (mk2 and umk3 fan here myself), it looked like it played basically KOF style.
*Earthquake is extremely big, basically like a sentinal
*backgrounds look really good, they aren't cheap looking like modern kof backgrounds, they are more like street fighter alpha 2 backgrounds.
Thats about it
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| RugalBernstein 3999th Post
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| "Re(5):Wow, I'm... uh... yeah" , posted Thu 15 May 09:38:
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Is anyone else disappointed that the Capcom cast is entirely Street Fighter except for Tabasa? This game is really turning out to be KOF vs SF, which isn't necessarily a bad thing... it's just out of Capcom's library they could have put in a Darkstalker, Strider, Dante, a Breath of Fire character... something. I have a feeling this is the final cast too judging by the sprite quality and animation level.
Not me. I'm glad no non-fighter characters are in it. I also don't think this is quite the final roster yet, but we're getting close. There's still two slots left on their site for usable charas, and I expect there to be two unusable bosses (who won't get a slot on the site;bosses generally don't, anyway) I suppose there is also the remote possibililty of there being two hidden charas (one per side, obviously) but I doubt this.
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| Toxico 2942th Post
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|  "Re(6):Wow, I'm... uh... yeah"
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Not me. I'm glad no non-fighter characters are in it. I also don't think this is quite the final roster yet, but we're getting close. There's still two slots left on their site for usable charas, and I expect there to be two unusable bosses (who won't get a slot on the site;bosses generally don't, anyway) I suppose there is also the remote possibililty of their being two hidden charas (one per side, obviously) but I doubt this.
It would be an strategical mistake to release every character before publishing the game; judging by the "secrecy" that playmore used when dealing with RotD & Power Insticnt I doubt that that's the case; then again this game is different, this is... How do americans call it, "block buster"...
I would have wished to see someone from a non fighting game, but someone that could perfectly fit on a fighting game... Or do you regret Maxima, Cody, Guy, Haggar, Ralf, Clark, Kensou, Athena and so many others???
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Rid said quote:
Mr Karate: hummmm...
Kasumi: ugh!
Balrog: ugh!
M. Bison: Double ugh!
And proves again that people do have different tastes, as those four made an exceptional cast in my humble opinion... Than again, that will only matters if you do heed a sticking alcoholic.
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| RugalBernstein 3999th Post
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| "Re(7):Wow, I'm... uh... yeah" , posted Thu 15 May 10:07
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I would have wished to see someone from a non fighting game, but someone that could perfectly fit on a fighting game... Or do you regret Maxima, Cody, Guy, Haggar, Ralf, Clark, Kensou, Athena and so many others???
Daddy needs a drink ;P
Ha ha ha ha, no, no... I'm just glad there's no Rockman, Metal Slug, or Arthur sorts of things in it. I don't know, I've become picky about this as of recent. I suppose I wouldn't mind of they were altered to fit the designs of the game, but if they just threw them in and kept them SD or whatever, I wouldn't be too happy. I wonder if Mr. Big is in this... it would explain the return of Mr. Karate, ha ha ha. ;D Shame he won't be.
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| Toxico 2942th Post
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| "Re(8):Wow, I'm... uh... yeah" , posted Thu 15 May 10:12
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Ha ha ha ha, no, no... I'm just glad there's no Rockman, Metal Slug, or Arthur sorts of things in it. I don't know, I've become picky about this as of recent. I suppose I wouldn't mind of they were altered to fit the designs of the game, but if they just threw them in and kept them SD or whatever, I wouldn't be too happy. I wonder if Mr. Big is in this... it would explain the return of Mr. Karate, ha ha ha. ;D Shame he won't be.
Yes, that kind of things utterly sucked... I'm still hoping that there are endings on wich other characters play roles, but that's just a dream, and I don't have dreams; at least no one that I can remember...
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| JJWE
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| "Re(10):Wow, I'm... uh... yeah" , posted Thu 15 May 12:18
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FVM openning and transparencies are more than I expected, now if the openning last more than 3 seconds (Galaxy Fight) I might be happy.
I hope the "FMV" term here is used quite loosely. I mean, it's not like it's _video_, even though it's very well animated. It looks like the Garou intro in terms of animation quality, although this is basically animated _all_ the time, and doesn't contain stills like the MOTW intro did. As for "real" transparencies, I doubt there are any, unless they chucked more powerful video hardware into the cart itself. That doesn't stop the game from using fake ones though, like in MOTW where flames and such (like in Terry's Burn Knuckle) were painted to look transparent. But now I'm rambling, on with the thread.
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| Undead Fred 598th Post
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| "Re(4):Re(10):Wow, I'm... uh... yeah" , posted Thu 15 May 15:27
I agree, there looks like there's too many ripped sprites in this. That's very disappointing. I'm still very interested in the game, it's just disappointing seeing their fighers... I know Capcom reused SFA3 sprites of Vega, Balrog, Cammy, etc. etc. for CVS1 and 2, but they were still REANIMATED FOR SFA3. I need to watch the videos of SVC, but it looks like Ken and Ryu are straight out of SF2. To me, that's disappointing. Trust me, I know from experience how much work animation can be (I'm only a student now, but I've done plenty of 2D and 3D stuff), especially when you've got that much to do, but I expect a lot from them. Don't get me wrong, I'm still looking forward to this game, and what I've seen so far looks better than KOF graphics, and I'm sure the animating is solid, but I want more out of the visuals than ancient sprites that have been polished a little. Rotoscope the old sprites using a newer look if you have to, I don't care. Capcom did it on SFA3 (at least it sure looks like they did), and the sprites look a lot better and fit with the rest of the characters. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what it seems like so far.
Again, just so we're clear, I'm excited about the game so far, but not nearly as excited as I was when CVS was coming out.
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| Iron D 2227th Post
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| "Re(6):Re(10):Wow, I'm... uh... yeah" , posted Thu 15 May 16:32
Looks good so far. Not a fan of Balrog, Kasumi, Mr. Karate, or any AoF character save Ryuhaku (in his CvS2 incarnation), but Vega is good to see.
I would like to see a lot more non-fighting game characters myself. Some of my all time greatest fighting game moments were seeing non-fighting game characters in fighting games (Guy and Sodom in SFA being the first time I experienced this euphoria). With only four more slots left, this doesn't seem too likely. And while I do like the majority of the characters announced so far, this does seem like it's going to end up as more of a SF vs. KOF, which was my main gripe with CvS1.
I'm only hoping that they find some way of having six buttons. After playing CvS1 and MvC2, I now realize that SF characters are butchered without having their six buttons. They could do it SS2 style, and have you press two buttons for fierce attacks, although that doesn't look too likely to happen.
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| Time Mage 1455th Post
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| "After seeing the video..." , posted Fri 16 May 01:31
...This are my impressions:
- First, the animation looks KOF-ish, what means it's not bad, but it won't be MOTW. This could also lead to many more chars, along with the sprite ripping. 40 characters perhaps?
- Second, I noticed something quite strange: the big presence of Capcom's logo in the game. It appears along with SNK just at the beggining, and then it appears again BEFORE Playmore's logo. That could be because of two reasons. One, this game is somewhat out of the agreement that SNK and Capcom made for 3 games each, and they have to put Capcom in a relevant place to be able to make the game. Or they could have put Capcom name prominent in order to attract the US audience to the game, coupled with the SF chars.
That last argument, which I think is the correct one, leads me to notice the gameplay. It looks very KOF-ish, also, and that may be done intentionally, in order to attract US people to the KOFs. I'll explain myself: KOF has never been very popular in the US, while SF has been quite popular. With CvS and CvS2, SNK chars have been more known than before. Releasing a game with the always popular SF chars, the Capcom logo prominent, and the now better know Kyo & CO, along with KOF gameplay, may hook US players to that gameplay style, thus giving more customers to the KOFs.
I hope I explained myself... I hope.
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I'm only hoping that they find some way of having six buttons. After playing CvS1 and MvC2, I now realize that SF characters are butchered without having their six buttons. They could do it SS2 style, and have you press two buttons for fierce attacks, although that doesn't look too likely to happen.
SNK games work perfectly with 4 buttons. This is an SNK game, and it doesn't matter if there are SF chars in it, the game will play perfectly with 4 buttons.
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| Sensenic 598th Post
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| "Re(1):After seeing the video..." , posted Fri 16 May 03:00:
Whoowhooa... one day I can't post, and all this appears. I guess I'll make only a few comments here and there, since everything's been said already
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...This are my impressions:
- First, the animation looks KOF-ish, what means it's not bad, but it won't be MOTW. This could also lead to many more chars, along with the sprite ripping. 40 characters perhaps?
- Second, I noticed something quite strange: the big presence of Capcom's logo in the game. It appears along with SNK just at the beggining, and then it appears again BEFORE Playmore's logo. That could be because of two reasons. One, this game is somewhat out of the agreement that SNK and Capcom made for 3 games each, and they have to put Capcom in a relevant place to be able to make the game. Or they could have put Capcom name prominent in order to attract the US audience to the game, coupled with the SF chars.
That last argument, which I think is the correct one, leads me to notice the gameplay. It looks very KOF-ish, also, and that may be done intentionally, in order to attract US people to the KOFs. I'll explain myself: KOF has never been very popular in the US, while SF has been quite popular. With CvS and CvS2, SNK chars have been more known than before. Releasing a game with the always popular SF chars, the Capcom logo prominent, and the now better know Kyo & CO, along with KOF gameplay, may hook US players to that gameplay style, thus giving more customers to the KOFs.
I hope I explained myself... I hope.
Yes you did, and I agree with you.
But I'm starting to dislike this "KOF vs SF" tendency too. I think, perhaps they're doing like Capcom did in CvS: make it more or less a "KOF vs SF" to attract more audience (more or less as you described it), then release the sequel with more freedom to include a "relatively" more varied roster.
Another curious thing: I read in some places that Capcom's character selection for CvS was very partial for Capcom, making a poor SNK one (I wouldn't know, CvS's seemed more or less obvious to me, for a first game), so perhaps SNK would be doing now viceversa: While SNK's side is more original with Earthquake, Shiki and Mr Karate (and I'd add Kasumi, even when she's a KOF character), Capcom's is obviously worse (in originality terms) having only Hugo (and he's from an SF, not 2 though) and Tabasa as surprises. The others are quite.... euh... normal? expectable? It'd be some kind of "revenge", don't you think?
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SNK games work perfectly with 4 buttons. This is an SNK game, and it doesn't matter if there are SF chars in it, the game will play perfectly with 4 buttons.
Agreed too.
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| RugalBernstein 4016th Post
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| "Re(2):After seeing the video..." , posted Fri 16 May 16:20:
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My opinion still stands. The SF characters were uber butchered in MvC2 and CvS1 because they didn't have all of their attacks and/or had to press d/f and fierce or something like that to get moves that are usually one button normals. This messes up combo execution and overall effectiveness of such characters.
Sure, they didn't have all of their normals in SvC:MotM, but I can forgive that, seeing as it is a handheld game and all.
They'll be as butchered as the SNK characters in Capcom vs. SNK 1 and 2; I.E., not at all. They'll just be different, and will require experimentation to find new tactics. Also, I think the Capcom characters were hardly "butchered" in the first CvsS... seems to me most of them were still distinctly "good", if not "better" than most of their SNK counterparts. I bet you're one of the people who got annoyed at people always whining about the SNK characters being "raped" in Capcom vs. SNK, no? Not intending to sound harsh or anything, but people really ought to shut up about this sort of thing. It's a DIFFERENT COMPANY, folks. I feel this way about Capcom vs. SNK 2, as well, but most of the whining about the SNK charas in that has passed, considering it isn't new anymore. Well, who am I kidding, some people still whine in some places.
EDIT: It's a bit early to be complaining about this, anyway. I have no doubt in my mind that A.) Ryu and Gouki will be unbelievably good and B.) Hugo will be one of the better characters in the game. I also am of the belief that Dhalsim will transfer very well in to an SNK style game, and will end up being very, very good.
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