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"RO Questions" , posted Tue 6 May 19:37post reply


I have an RO question, but I didn't want to clog up the profile thread and keep people from posting their profiles, so I figured I'd better start a new one. This is mostly aimed at Kyo, NeoRyu, Holiday, or anybody else that's done a second class change before.

After I switch from Swordman to Knight, can I still use skill points on Swordman skills like Provoke, Endure, etc.? And if I have Swordman skill points left over when I change over to Knight, can I use those for Knight skills? The problem that I'm running into is that I'm not very interested in getting Magnum Break or going down the Provoke/Endure/Peco/Cavalier skill tree right now, so I'd rather just keep the skill points and use them on Two-Hand Quicken and Counter when I become a Knight. If that actually works, I'd have fourteen skill points available when I become a Knight and nearly master both Two-Hand Quicken and Counter right from the start.

I've read a lot of Swordman/Knight FAQs, as well as general RO FAQs, but I haven't seen anyone either recommend that you save up skill points or warn everyone that they'll lose skill points if they save up. Has anyone tried doing this before?






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"Re(1):RO Questions" , posted Tue 6 May 20:26post reply


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After I switch from Swordman to Knight, can I still use skill points on Swordman skills like Provoke, Endure, etc.? And if I have Swordman skill points left over when I change over to Knight, can I use those for Knight skills? The problem that I'm running into is that I'm not very interested in getting Magnum Break or going down the Provoke/Endure/Peco/Cavalier skill tree right now, so I'd rather just keep the skill points and use them on Two-Hand Quicken and Counter when I become a Knight. If that actually works, I'd have fourteen skill points available when I become a Knight and nearly master both Two-Hand Quicken and Counter right from the start.

I've read a lot of Swordman/Knight FAQs, as well as general RO FAQs, but I haven't seen anyone either recommend that you save up skill points or warn everyone that they'll lose skill points if they save up. Has anyone tried doing this before?



1- Yes, can still pick up on Swordsmen skills after you turn Knight. In example, if you only have 5 Lvs of HP recovery you turn knight, you can still raise it to 10.

2- No, you lose all remaining skill points when you turn to second class. So make sure you use up all your points beforehand.





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"Re(2):RO Questions" , posted Tue 6 May 22:28post reply


quote:

1- Yes, can still pick up on Swordsmen skills after you turn Knight. In example, if you only have 5 Lvs of HP recovery you turn knight, you can still raise it to 10.

2- No, you lose all remaining skill points when you turn to second class. So make sure you use up all your points beforehand.



Thanks, Prof. Now I just have to make a decision between Bowling Bash and the useless-but-cool PecoPeco Riding & Cavalier Mastery skills. PecoPecos are cool and I really hate the travelling time in RO... but I'm not sure I can give up a levelling advantage. The classic Red Mage dilemma...

Oh yeah, one more question. Is there anything wrong with PecoPeco riding? The things don't keel over after you take a certain amount of damage, or leave you if they're not fed like pets, or some other weird disadvantage, right? I'd definitely go for Bowling Bash if PecoPeco Riding is going to be lame. It's already lame enough that it takes twelve skill points to get it and the only consolation you get is Endure (Provoke appears to be useless for my current stat setup).





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"Re(3):RO Questions" , posted Wed 7 May 02:02post reply


My suggestion: Go for PecoPeco if you want to be very brave and original and aim for a Pure Spear Knight build.
One big problem is that a good spear is terribly hard to find, and you won't find many Blacksmiths who forge spears.

Peco2 means faster travel, which *can* mean more experience and more stuff to buy. Highly recommended.
IIRC, Peco's can't die due to neglect :)

Cavalier Mastery = Max. Maxing will let you attack at 100% speed. More hits per second = more damage.

Brandish Spear = Essential Crowd Control Skill. See them fly! Max it.

Spear Boomerang = Elemental enemy killer. You need this if you solo play a lot, or if you're scared to go close range.

Don't waste points in sword skills. Plan ahead and good luck! :D





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"More RO questions" , posted Wed 7 May 08:39post reply


A couple more questions of my own -- I don't know if people have answers to most of 'em:

1) How long should we expect this free beta period to last? Besides this free beta giving Gravity a chance to test their servers with 5000 to 10000 users, I'm thinking it's an elaborate scheme to get us hooked on RO before they start charging for it (and it's working ^_^;) -- but I'm just trying to look at how much longer it should be before we start paying for it.

2) The client for other languages --

a) I've heard clients for other languages have more options implemented (i.e. the Pet system) -- any word on when it might be implemented for the English client?

b) Are players using other clients already charged for playing? I'm just noting these pages on the Korean and Japanese sites...






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"Re(1):More RO questions" , posted Wed 7 May 09:25post reply


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Besides this free beta giving Gravity a chance to test their servers with 5000 to 10000 users, I'm thinking it's an elaborate scheme to get us hooked on RO before they start charging for it (and it's working ^_^;)


Indeed.



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"Re(1):More RO questions" , posted Wed 7 May 10:17post reply


quote:
A couple more questions of my own -- I don't know if people have answers to most of 'em:

1) How long should we expect this free beta period to last? Besides this free beta giving Gravity a chance to test their servers with 5000 to 10000 users, I'm thinking it's an elaborate scheme to get us hooked on RO before they start charging for it (and it's working ^_^;) -- but I'm just trying to look at how much longer it should be before we start paying for it.

2) The client for other languages --

a) I've heard clients for other languages have more options implemented (i.e. the Pet system) -- any word on when it might be implemented for the English client?

b) Are players using other clients already charged for playing? I'm just noting these pages on the Korean and Japanese sites...



1. It is unknown how long it will last but previous betas were 2 months long. Also in the previous betas they announced when the betas end before ppl sign up. Maybe we will get a longer beta then usual.

2.a. No word yet, but if anything is implemented, it would be posted on the patch server download window.

b.As for as I know, cRO(shanghai version) and cRO(taiwan version) is still free. Others are pay to play.





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"Re(2):More RO questions" , posted Wed 7 May 10:33post reply


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2.a. No word yet, but if anything is implemented, it would be posted on the patch server download window.


Nice -- so we won't have to wait until another 500 or 600 MB iteration of the client. Though, I wonder why they didn't include the extra features on the onset (if indeed it's true that they have extra features not found yet in the English client).

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b.As for as I know, cRO(shanghai version) and cRO(taiwan version) is still free. Others are pay to play.



Wait -- Shangai and Taiwan version? How many versions of RO are there? (I thought what was listed on http://www.ragnarokonline.com was all of 'em.)

Also another question: Anyone know how long the current betas of Shangai and Taiwan versions have been running?






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"Re(3):More RO questions" , posted Wed 7 May 12:23post reply


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2.a. No word yet, but if anything is implemented, it would be posted on the patch server download window.

Nice -- so we won't have to wait until another 500 or 600 MB iteration of the client. Though, I wonder why they didn't include the extra features on the onset (if indeed it's true that they have extra features not found yet in the English client).

b.As for as I know, cRO(shanghai version) and cRO(taiwan version) is still free. Others are pay to play.


Wait -- Shangai and Taiwan version? How many versions of RO are there? (I thought what was listed on http://www.ragnarokonline.com was all of 'em.)

Also another question: Anyone know how long the current betas of Shangai and Taiwan versions have been running?



hehe, glad you notice cRO isn't linked from ragnarokonline.com. The thing is, cRO is not run by gravity but by Gamefiler. If you go to the korean RO website, it has a link to the many other countries that has RO. cRO has many changes not included in other ROs. They don't ban botting in that version. o_o;; Yhe draw back to that is that they give less exp. Drop rate differs also but I'm not sure how. I can probably find the links for you to sign up if you really want it, but I don't really recommend it. If you must play another version of RO and willing to pay, play jRO. I hear from a lot of people that jRO has the nicest community.





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"Re(3):More RO questions" , posted Wed 7 May 13:11post reply


quote:

Though, I wonder why they didn't include the extra features on the onset (if indeed it's true that they have extra features not found yet in the English client).



They probably want to test one thing at a time. For instance, cards are just completely broken in iRO. They're all selling for WAY too high, are WAY too rare, and usually aren't useful, because there isn't a lot of low level slotted armor, headgear, and accessories for the low level cards with +1 VIT, +1 DEX, or +1 of some other stat to fit into. In my opinion, someone needs to take the time to fix it, like giving one or two slots to the weaker stock armors in the town shops.

If they implemented all sorts of new stuff at the same time, it would not only be a nightmare to translate (not that they seem to care much about that at Gravity*), but would also spread their patchers far too thinly.

*Note: That's not a complaint. Engrish is half the appeal of this game for me. I are loving it muchly!





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"Re(4):More RO questions" , posted Wed 7 May 13:13post reply


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"Re(1):RO Questions Service" , posted Wed 7 May 15:06post reply


When you pick a service does it lock your characters into that service only?





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"Re(2):RO Questions Service" , posted Wed 7 May 15:27post reply


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When you pick a service does it lock your characters into that service only?



If your refering to server, then yes. Some people see it as a good thing since you have 3 extra slots to make other characters.





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"Re(3):RO Questions Service" , posted Wed 7 May 15:47post reply


Are mages supposed to die that easily? I mean, enemies are doing more damage then my max hp now... On the bright side, I don't need to heal my hp anymore. Though, I cannot imagine going into dungeons like this...

How long does a lvl 10 meteor storm take to cast? is it worth it?





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"Re(1):RO Questions" , posted Wed 7 May 17:07post reply


What's an acolyte supposed to be in this game?





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"Re(4):RO Questions Service" , posted Thu 8 May 03:56post reply


quote:
Are mages supposed to die that easily? I mean, enemies are doing more damage then my max hp now... On the bright side, I don't need to heal my hp anymore. Though, I cannot imagine going into dungeons like this...



We can kill them in one attack, they can kill us in one attack. Fair enough.

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How long does a lvl 10 meteor storm take to cast? is it worth it?



Are you going to change class to Wizard already? What level are you??






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"Re(5):RO Questions Service" , posted Thu 8 May 12:22post reply


question!
how do you get money in this game?
other than selling stuff? is there another way?





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"Re(6):RO Questions Service" , posted Thu 8 May 12:37post reply


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how do you get money in this game?
other than selling stuff? is there another way?



Yup -- you sell much of what you collect -- the assumption is that the people you sell the items to will be able to use the items to make more stuff. (You can also give items in exchange for other items -- an example is the Mr. Smile mask.)

If you perform tasks for random people (i.e. healing), they might include a donation for your services. (Don't go around expecting it -- and when you do get a donation, be sure to thank them.)

You could also try begging, but that's not in good taste.



Now, another question:

Is it possible to change hair style in the game? I know there's at least a hair dyer in Prontera, but I don't know if there's any sort of barber. I'd just be interested in changing the hair of my archer to be the same as the hair of my thief -- though I'm not unhappy with the current hair my archer has. (Both have blue hair, which I like.)






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"Re(4):RO Questions Service" , posted Thu 8 May 12:55post reply


I've seen Lord of Vermillion first-hand in Culvert, and by golly, that spell must be worth the casting time; it fried literally everything (although it seems kind of wasteful to unleash it on Thief Bugs when it comes down to it).





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"Re(5):RO Questions Service" , posted Thu 8 May 14:28post reply


quote:
I've seen Lord of Vermillion first-hand in Culvert, and by golly, that spell must be worth the casting time; it fried literally everything (although it seems kind of wasteful to unleash it on Thief Bugs when it comes down to it).



Aaaahh... I'm eager to get it... Even when I have stil a looong way to go... :D~






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"Re(7):RO Questions Service" , posted Thu 8 May 15:13post reply


quote:
question!
how do you get money in this game?
other than selling stuff? is there another way?


Yup -- you sell much of what you collect -- the assumption is that the people you sell the items to will be able to use the items to make more stuff. (You can also give items in exchange for other items -- an example is the Mr. Smile mask.)

If you perform tasks for random people (i.e. healing), they might include a donation for your services. (Don't go around expecting it -- and when you do get a donation, be sure to thank them.)

You could also try begging, but that's not in good taste.



Now, another question:

Is it possible to change hair style in the game? I know there's at least a hair dyer in Prontera, but I don't know if there's any sort of barber. I'd just be interested in changing the hair of my archer to be the same as the hair of my thief -- though I'm not unhappy with the current hair my archer has. (Both have blue hair, which I like.)


Another money-related question, out of curiosity: Is it possible to do a "normal" job in this game (i.e., as OmegaDog's post said, hair dyer), or is that left for NPCs?





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"Re(8):RO Questions Service" , posted Thu 8 May 15:36:post reply


quote:
Another money-related question, out of curiosity: Is it possible to do a "normal" job in this game (i.e., as OmegaDog's post said, hair dyer), or is that left for NPCs?



Player Merchants are supposedly able to purchase items from NPC merchants at a discount, set up shop (via a message that looks like an away window), and sell the items for a profit where the buyer would still get a 15% to 20% discount compared to regular NPC merchants. The only problem is, from what I've seen (all of 6 days ^_^;), you have to set your character down in one location, set up a sign, and just wait while your items sell, until they all sell out or until you get tired of waiting. That's really not what I'd consider a fun time -- so I'd say, for the player's own sake, that it's better to become a Merchant if you've already got a party or guild lined up to which you can sell items. That way, you can fight alongside your party/guild, and when they want to go shopping, you can go about buying and selling items quickly without much wait time.






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"Re(8):RO Questions Service" , posted Thu 8 May 15:37:post reply


So, anyone have a candidate for a good location to warp portal drop kill stealers? I've had enough of this nonsense; this Archer threw a fit when I killed a Mandragora he was apparently attacking (the guy was off the screen at the time), and I realized I should've dropped a Warp Portal on him. Then I realized I didn't set a memo point at Aldebaran that would kill him.

You know, that is the one big failing of Ragnarok Online. Everyone is so frickin' worked up and paranoid about killstealing that it's almost completely worthless to even think about helping people without being paid. Well crap, I didn't pick the Acolyte for my health. If people are like that I'm going to turn into the last Acolyte you ever cross before the red centipedes eat you.

And incidentally, I hate Archers. I will NEVER team up with an Archer. I will go out of my way to warp drop you if you even dare get close to me.





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"Re(9):RO Questions Service" , posted Thu 8 May 15:49:post reply


... that actually sounds like a really fun idea if the other player is complaining too much and won't take a simple /sry -- just be be careful it's not simply out of spite on your part.

But, if the archer you mention was throwing a fit at you for an accidental kill-stealing, s/he might report you to the GMs if you teleport him to a place where s/he'd most certainly die, even if there's not much of a penalty for death. Just be careful s/he doesn't have a chance to find out your character's name -- though there's a high probability they might, right after the accidental kill-steal.






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"Re(10):RO Questions Service" , posted Thu 8 May 16:49:post reply


Retribution is something I don't care about; if I can't PK somebody, then does that mean I should roll over and take it?

Everyone knows complaining to the GM about kill stealing is a waste of time, that's why people do it. And heck, if even the TUTORIAL didn't make such a big deal about it, people wouldn't make such a big flippin deal about it, either. But it's too late. Everyone makes a big flippin deal about kill stealing. The whole xp system has a fatal flaw in it, and the whole kill stealing phenomena is it.

Say 'sorry?' Sorry for WHAT? Sorry because he's too stupid to realize that people that aren't archers have to walk up to a monster and take personal risk to kill it? Sorry because he's off the screen when I acquire targets? Sorry because I have a low minimum damage? Sorry for WHAT? The only thing I feel sorry for is getting an Acolyte. I get zero satisfaction out of helping people (thanks to the whole KS business) and hardly anyone has the decency to say 'thank you.'





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"Re(2):Re(10):RO Questions Service" , posted Thu 8 May 17:09post reply


Heh heh -- well then, if there's really no consequence to portal dropping... er -- of course, not like you really need the permission of a n00b. ^_^






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"Re(3):Re(10):RO Questions Service" , posted Thu 8 May 18:12post reply


I need to take a break from this game. The way I just got riled up about it in the last couple of posts reminded me of how unhealthy this sort of thing is for me.

P.S. I recently caught wind of a plot to massacre Prontera (Chaos) with 100+ Dead Branches. It sounds kind of funny.





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