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| Juke Joint Jezebel 1898th Post
 
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|  "Re(2):hijacking the thread!!"
, posted Mon 5 May 09:51
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The Simpsons is no longer any good
Now that this has come up I'm calling it out.
Can someone give me a REAL reason the Simpsons isn't good anymore?
One of the producers came to my college and answered this question, so here it is, straight form the horses mouth:
*ahem* FUCK YOU! That's my job you're talking about! I don't go to your job and ask you why the whoppers taste funny.
heh, he later said that he agreed, and I'm sure that it was a practiced answer to a fairly common question, but I thought it was funny.
hahaha that's fucking hillarious. i wish i could've been there for that .. or one of his many other speeches, since i'm sure it wasn't the first (or last) time that he's said it
to me, a lot of things have made the Simpsons "go bad." first, i think it's timing. i'd watch the new episodes and they'd shoot joke after joke after joke at you, without giving you time to laugh or even think about it. but i compared it with the old episodes and it was somewhat the same. i still think they try to overload the new episodes with jokes. instead of it being "funny," it's just a bunch of wacky shit flying around the screen
second, i think it's that whole "the Simpsons are going to [insert whatever here]" deal. the new episodes completely revolve around the Simpsons (together, as a family) and their adventures, instead of individual scenarios (like Bart or Lisa at school, Homer at work, or Marge and Maggie at home). and they're always butting into everyone's business, which gets annoying. Apu having marital problems? let's go! does Ned need help with that new girl? we're there!
there's many other reasons i could name, but i'll just get to the point. i think the main one is that ... well, they're getting too old. it's probably a good time to can the show. it had a good run. while watching some of the new episodes, i thought to myself "good chance i'd be laughing if this happened to another character. i'm getting pretty sick of seeing Homer being [insert verb here] in the crotch." we remember the Simpsons and their old adventures. to see them go through countless new scenarios is just tiring. imagine if an rpg took a year of dedicated playing to complete. it's something like that
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| Radish 1193th Post
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|  "Re(2):hijacking the thread!!"
, posted Mon 5 May 10:06:
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The Simpsons is no longer any good
Now that this has come up I'm calling it out.
Can someone give me a REAL reason the Simpsons isn't good anymore?
One of the producers came to my college and answered this question, so here it is, straight form the horses mouth:
*ahem* FUCK YOU! That's my job you're talking about! I don't go to your job and ask you why the whoppers taste funny.
heh, he later said that he agreed, and I'm sure that it was a practiced answer to a fairly common question, but I thought it was funny.
Asking the guy who makes the show "Why it isn't funny" does make you an ass, but the fact remains that the show ISN'T funny (and I'm sure he WOULD complain if the Whopper tasted like fish, we're his customers so it's not like we're not part of the whole equation here).
It now relies almost entirely on trendy celebrities that feel out of place, Homer getting hurt plots, or just weird jokes that don't fit in at all. I haven't watched for about 2 seasons and I caught an episode a few weeks ago where they went to a ranch and had to fight beavers. I know that the show has never been about continuity, but since when does Lisa NOT want to ride a pony and since when is this her first crush? I can count like 4 previous ones of the top of my head.
I like how British comedies quit while they're ahead. I'm sure if Absolutely Fabulous or Blackadder had gone on for as long as the Simpsons has they would start to lose their edge as well. There's only so much you can do with an idea. Futurama was a great show and it was clear that there was similar thinking behind it that went into the Simpsons, but it was fresh and funny. Too bad the Simpsons seems to be the animated comedy lightning rod in which any other show that doesn't pick up similar ratings is canceled.
EDIT: It's not like I dislike celebrities in the Simpsons. George Harrison in the B Flats episode was great, Danny Devito as Homer's brother was great and Kelsey Grammer will always be excellent as Side Show Bob. However when Homer has to suddenly go skateboarding and OMG! "Legenedary Skateboarder Tony Hawk" and "Alternative rock band Blink 182" show up for no real reason, it's just stupid.
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| Juke Joint Jezebel 1902th Post
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| "Re(3):hijacking the thread!!" , posted Mon 5 May 10:55
that's right. the overflow of celebrities was another thing. i don't mind new celebrities, but you pretty much summed it up. the situations they set them in were just .... i dunno, i can't think of the word
which reminds me, another huge factor that made the new Simpsons totally not funny to me was how they changed a lot of the characters. the killing off of Maude Flanders, having Barney go sober, questioning the sexuality of Lenny and Carl. speaking of which, is it Carl or Karl? whatever. back on topic, one thing that made the old Simpsons episodes so great was that no matter how zany a previous episode was, the next one would "reset" so we wouldn't have to worry about the problems of the past
i gotta admit, it was cool to see stuff from past episodes in the newer ones, like that giant stone head that Mr Burns gave to the family. but i see those more as mementos (to episodes of the past) instead of some storyline deal
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| omar
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|  "Re(1):hijacking the thread!!"
, posted Mon 5 May 16:08
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The Simpsons is no longer any good
Now that this has come up I'm calling it out.
Can someone give me a REAL reason the Simpsons isn't good anymore?
Because the show has turned bizarre and kind of sensless, characters seems to act out of character and is constantly jumping the shark or whatever that expresion is.
In the earlier episodes, celebritys would play roles in the Simpsons, but would not use their real names, now there's a celebrity in almost every show.
I must mention, however, that I do like bizarre shows with crazy jokes all over the place, like Familiy Guy and Get a life, but they have always been like that, while the Simpsons started smart and funny and eventually turned just weird.
Remember when episodes were about the characters and not about what crazy thing they would be doing next? I do, and that's why I don't like the newer episodes.
If the Simpsons are on tv, I watch them and enjoy the show, but if they are showing any of the newer episodes (last two years, more or less), I just change the channel.
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| Radish 1195th Post
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| "Re(2):hijacking the thread!!" , posted Mon 5 May 17:10:
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I must mention, however, that I do like bizarre shows with crazy jokes all over the place, like Familiy Guy and Get a life, but they have always been like that, while the Simpsons started smart and funny and eventually turned just weird.
Remember when episodes were about the characters and not about what crazy thing they would be doing next? I do, and that's why I don't like the newer episodes.
If the Simpsons are on tv, I watch them and enjoy the show, but if they are showing any of the newer episodes (last two years, more or less), I just change the channel.
Yes, same here. For a while the episodes were like:
"Marge gets buff!"
"Marge gets breast implants!"
"Marge has a sex change!" (ok I made up that one)
Seriously, it used to be a clever, funny show about an overall average family that occationally had interesting things happen to them. Now every episode is "The Simpsons run into (insert trendy celebrity here) on their trip to (insert trendy country/wacky location here)." I honestly think at this point the episodes read like mediocre fanscripts which is just sad.
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| Iron D 2208th Post
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| "Re(3):hijacking the thread!!" , posted Mon 5 May 17:39
So much to catch up on.
The Olsen Twins are Satan split into two different bodies. Full House was awful, I'm not even going to glance at any of their movies, and as for their looks, they don't look too different from any other blondes out there (including Hillary Duff and Britney Spears).
If I were to pick hot girls on Disney Channel it would be Topanga from Boy Meets World, and the black girl from Boy Meets World (I don't know names with this show, but she's the main characters' best friends' girlfriend...how's that for a complex description!), and Raven Simone.
I can not stand any show on Disney Channel except maybe Boy Meets World (on rare occasions) and Disney's Doug (Doug was always a great cartoon, even when it was on Nickelodeon, IMO).
Now, on the Simpsons, this show remains my favorite TV show, but in the past few seasons I would definitely say that the quality of the show has gone down a bit.
My main problems with the show as of late has been an over-emphasis on Homer and his stupidity, poor pacing of stories, and all around non-sensicality of stories.
Let's take the episode where Homer tried to run his own internet site for example. The ending belonged in something like a Treehouse of Horror, but it was part of the normal plotline. That episode was good right up until that part.
The Spring break episode with Kid Rock=the worst episode EVER...IMO.
BTW, seeing as I've seen very little of this season, tell me that Barney isn't going sober! This can't be true!
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| Dr Baghead 2113th Post
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| "Re(4):hijacking the thread!!" , posted Mon 5 May 20:40
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BTW, seeing as I've seen very little of this season, tell me that Barney isn't going sober! This can't be true!
I believe he's reverted back to his drunken self, at least he did for one moument in a newer episode.
I must say, I'm impressed everyone has such valid reasons for disliking the Simpsons.
In my own personal view, If the Simpsons was canceled tomorrow, I wouldn't cry (I'd be relieved really, puts a finite cap on the DVD sets I need) but until it's dealt it's deathblow I'll keep watching, it does pack at least ONE laugh per episode, even if does feature curious guest voices.
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