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| OYashiroForever
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|  "Re(3):Sega sued over Ulala"
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Uh, who is that chick?
Lead singer of Dee-lite, an OLD psychedelic dance/funk group. They have a pretty big underground following, but they had a hit with "Groove is in the Heart" back in the late 80s (which had a cameo by the great Bootsy Collins, the baddest brotha in the land). She was the redhead, as I recall.
Edit: Just bothered to look at the Gamespot article. "The lawsuit also states that audiences will most likely be confused, if they haven't been so already..." This argument (which you see in many frivolous lawsuits) is the most inane thing I've ever heard. 99.9% of America probably has no idea who Lady Miss Kier is (a similar percentage for Ulala, I'd imagine). Sooo... of that .1% (being generous) who know who both of them are, what are the chances that they would a) make this connection and b) care enough to be confused. Allow me to demonstrate by using a hypothetical conversation:
Person 1: "Hey... is that the lead singer of Dee-lite?"
Person 2: "No. Says here her name is Ulala."
Person 1: "Oh."
End of conversation. NO ONE CARES. If you want to sue because Sega ripped off your image, that's fine. I wasn't aware that people's personal images were patented and can't be copied (or, in this case, made to look somewhat similar), but if that's the case, Eminem should be able to sue 25% of America's "men" age 12-18 who all look exactly like him. Yeah, it's somewhat different, but the whole thing just reeks of opportunism. Bah... whatever. The american justice system irritates me some times.
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| OYashiroForever
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| "Re(2):Sega sued over Ulala" , posted Wed 30 Apr 14:02
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I thought all the good original techno bands vanished from the face of the Earth (like the Androsynth), and were replaced by rappers, drum and bass, psuedo-psuedo-rock, and manufactured boy bands and Madonna clones (Orz).
By original, do you mean the ones that showed up in the late 80s/early 90s or do you mean original as in not bland, boring noodling?
Not too many of the old techno/dance guys are still around, but Dee-lite, Praga Khan (founder of The Immortals, Channel X, and Lords of Acid), and a few others survived. However, they don't really have much of an audience here in the US as electronic music never really got big here (save for Moby's crossover stuff and the occasional one-hitter). Most good dance/techno ends up in Europe, where it's much more popular.
Speaking of which, it's a shame The Prodigy broke up so soon after finding mainstream success. Say what you will about them, but at least they brought electronic music to the forefront of American music for a lil' while (not long before the jaws of hell opened, allowing prepackaged pop music to awake from its slumber and unleash its unholy fury on us once again.... but I'm not bitter  ). Hopefully, their recent revival wasn't just a one-time thing.
"I haven't slept for 10 days because that would be too long."
"Your denial is beneath you and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs I see through you."
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| OYashiroForever
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| "Re(7):Sega sued over Ulala" , posted Wed 30 Apr 14:58
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You're right - but at the same time, the more people stealing money from Macdonalds, the happier I become.
The sooner McDonalds shrivels up and dies a horrible, greasy death the better as far as I'm concerned. However, I'd rather it be due to the fact that everyone realized how AWFUL their food is (which I truly believe is the reason for their recent economic troubles) rather than because some group of obese buffoons sued them in to oblivion. If you're overweight because you're genetically predisposed to being obese, than it's not Mickey D's fault! If you're overweight because you have ZERO will power or are an emotional eater, it's STILL not Mickey D's fault! McDonalds didn't drive you to the restaurant, order the food, pay the cashier, or insert the food in your mouth.
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True. I don't know, it's the fact that some dumbass sued and won (I thought he won? People have won stupider cases, though...)
It was actually a group of people and their lawsuit was thrown out by the judge, thankfully. However, that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of morons-in-waiting just itching for their crack at infamy. It boggles the mind to think of how much money is probably wasted per year on legal fees for ridiculous lawsuits.
Okay, my rambling is getting out of control... back to work.
"I haven't slept for 10 days because that would be too long."
"Your denial is beneath you and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs I see through you."
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| Dr Baghead 2101th Post
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| "Re(4):Sega sued over Ulala" , posted Wed 30 Apr 18:05
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is the most inane thing I've ever heard. 99.9% of America probably has no idea who Lady Miss Kier is (a similar percentage for Ulala, I'd imagine). Sooo... of that .1% (being generous) who know who both of them are, what are the chances that they would a) make this connection and b) care enough to be confused.
In all fairness, it wouldn't be the same .1%
Let's assume .025% know only of Lady Miss Kier (LMK here on as I don't feel like typing 'Lady Miss Kier' over and over) and .025% know only of Ulala, and .05% know of both.
It's likely confusion between the .075% who know of only LMK or both the conversion would end much like you put it (since they'd assume Ulala is based on LMK and think nothing more of it.)
But the .025% who know only of Ulala should by chance see a Deeee-Lite performance (I could have sworn I heard of them lately, either on some strange chat-show or in the local event papers or something.) they will assume LMK is ripping off Ulala.
And considering a lot of us made of fun of the band Rival Schools (and their album "United by Fate") it's likely the Ulala Only crowd is going to shun Deee-Lite, and getting angry e-mails from a Sega-Fanboy because they think you ripped off a game character is going to get annoying.
I don't think they have any legal ground to stand on, this probably counts as an "homage" or "fair use" or some other legal term that means "they did nothing wrong even though it looks like you."
but I think Deee-Lite got what they wanted... after all, would anyone have mentioned them here if they didn't sue? Noooooo, I bet some people are even going to download the video they claim Sega stole moves from off of Kazaa... and of those people I bet 5 will actually enjoy the music... and of those I bet 1 will become a paying fan!
See! They just doubled their fan base!
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| "Re(8):Sega sued over Ulala" , posted Wed 30 Apr 18:37
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You're right - but at the same time, the more people stealing money from Macdonalds, the happier I become.
The sooner McDonalds shrivels up and dies a horrible, greasy death the better as far as I'm concerned. However, I'd rather it be due to the fact that everyone realized how AWFUL their food is (which I truly believe is the reason for their recent economic troubles) rather than because some group of obese buffoons sued them in to oblivion. If you're overweight because you're genetically predisposed to being obese, than it's not Mickey D's fault! If you're overweight because you have ZERO will power or are an emotional eater, it's STILL not Mickey D's fault! McDonalds didn't drive you to the restaurant, order the food, pay the cashier, or insert the food in your mouth.
True. I don't know, it's the fact that some dumbass sued and won (I thought he won? People have won stupider cases, though...)
It was actually a group of people and their lawsuit was thrown out by the judge, thankfully. However, that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of morons-in-waiting just itching for their crack at infamy. It boggles the mind to think of how much money is probably wasted per year on legal fees for ridiculous lawsuits.
Okay, my rambling is getting out of control... back to work.
I know a girl who worked at the local McDonalds. She said the employees urinated in the drinks.
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"Re(1):Sega sued over Ulala" 
L! Just read it a while ago.
