Though -- is it really a decline in literacy standard that's to blame? Or was the student just in an experimental mood that day? (I don't know about you guys, but to me, age 13 is a just a bit late to start noticing that a student is using that particular writing style...)
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Though -- is it really a decline in literacy standard that's to blame? Or was the student just in an experimental mood that day? (I don't know about you guys, but to me, age 13 is a just a bit late to start noticing that a student is using that particular writing style...)
I'm sure the kid thought it would be funny to confuse his teacher, but I am getting a little scared about the declining standards. CNN was all excited today since apparently one of the causes for infant mortality in car crashes is that 50% of Americans can't read at a 10th grade level, which is the level child safety seat instructions are written in.
Though -- is it really a decline in literacy standard that's to blame? Or was the student just in an experimental mood that day? (I don't know about you guys, but to me, age 13 is a just a bit late to start noticing that a student is using that particular writing style...)
The teacher should tell the kid to write in proper English instead of whatever short hand her and her friends make up in chat rooms. There, I just solved the literacy problem! MJ s nt a h0m05xu1 pdaf1
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"Re(1):Internet shorthand used in school essay"
, posted Mon 3 Mar 21:02
quote:Though -- is it really a decline in literacy standard that's to blame? Or was the student just in an experimental mood that day? (I don't know about you guys, but to me, age 13 is a just a bit late to start noticing that a student is using that particular writing style...)
I think the English language is dying. People just don't care about grammar anymore, and they'll bitch out anyone who dares correct them. In fact, if I type with proper punctuation and capitalization online, people act like I'm the weird one. And this is high school we're talking about.
I fear for the future.
Gen
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"Re(2):Internet shorthand used in school essay"
, posted Mon 3 Mar 21:06
quote: Though -- is it really a decline in literacy standard that's to blame? Or was the student just in an experimental mood that day? (I don't know about you guys, but to me, age 13 is a just a bit late to start noticing that a student is using that particular writing style...)
I think the English language is dying. People just don't care about grammar anymore, and they'll bitch out anyone who dares correct them. In fact, if I type with proper punctuation and capitalization online, people act like I'm the weird one. And this is high school we're talking about.
I fear for the future.
They think you're wierd for typing proper punctuation? Don't give in!
We can counter the problem by putting effort into typing in proper English. I know that usually when I type on line it is rather short-handed. This makes me want to try for a change.
Satoshi_Miwa
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"Re(1):Internet shorthand used in school essay"
, posted Mon 3 Mar 21:13
Makes me wish I was in High School right now. My sloopy grammar and spelling would look like a Noble Prize winning book compared to this stuff.
Now, if l33t makes into the dictonary (spelled in l33t no less) then I'll truly run away scared.
Undead Fred
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"Re(3):Internet shorthand used in school essay"
, posted Mon 3 Mar 21:17
Bad SPOKEN grammar doesn't bother me that much, but when people can barely spell or use big words to sound smart (and totally use them wrong) bugs me to death. Not really that much on IM's and BBS', but when people writing MAGAZINES can't even use proper spelling or grammar ("Your going to love it's awesome graphics!") REALLY bugs me. They don't have spellcheck? Or anyone with junior high-grade grammar skills? They WRITE for a living. They should learn how.
Though -- is it really a decline in literacy standard that's to blame? Or was the student just in an experimental mood that day? (I don't know about you guys, but to me, age 13 is a just a bit late to start noticing that a student is using that particular writing style...)
All the people I knew from high school who were average at best are now doing remedial english in junior collage. And, it's sad that only now are they learning four syllable words.
sabo10
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"Re(2):Internet shorthand used in school essay"
, posted Mon 3 Mar 22:53
nanoda nanoda nanonanoda-!
, posted Tue 4 Mar 00:29
ehhhhh?? the girl is 13 and they decided to take the time to write this article? DAMN BRITISH! i told you once, i told you twice, you can't trust the British!
when i was 13, i was (literally) drawing pictures of cats and other singing/dancing animals on my tests, and you don't see people writing articles on that
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"Re(2):Internet shorthand used in school essay"
, posted Tue 4 Mar 07:45
quote: I think the English language is dying. People just don't care about grammar anymore
You know it's bad when the incorrect use of the word "your" shows up in a magazine ad.
"YOUR IN OUR WORLD NOW!"
*shudder*
quote:I fear for the future.
I'll weep for it instead.
OmegaDog
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"To not give up hope on literacy just yet..."
, posted Thu 13 Mar 18:18
(Heh -- here was the post I was getting ready to post before the SERVER BUSY troubles started.)
For those of you who are frustrated about the state of proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation in professional settings (and the effect it'll have on literacy), there's hope for at least the far future. Here's a small note I came across:
SPECULATIONS Declining literacy will drive the proliferation of pictographs.
Over time, pictographs will succumb to the shorthand of abstraction... 人
...reinvigorating literacy.
- Wong
(Source: Fantasy & Science Fiction, August 1998)
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"Re(1):To not give up hope on literacy just ye"
, posted Thu 13 Mar 18:56
quote: SPECULATIONS Declining literacy will drive the proliferation of pictographs.
Over time, pictographs will succumb to the shorthand of abstraction... 人
...reinvigorating literacy.
- Wong
Language, as a whole is always evoling, and is a mirror of our times. What was ungramatical yesteryear could be considered grammtical today.
Compare ye olde Shakesspeare English to todays hip-hop English.
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"Re(2):To not give up hope on literacy just ye"
, posted Thu 13 Mar 19:19
quote:
Language, as a whole is always evoling, and is a mirror of our times. What was ungramatical yesteryear could be considered grammtical today.
Compare ye olde Shakesspeare English to todays hip-hop English.
True, but I think in the case of netspeak, language is devolving.
Gen
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"devolving"
, posted Thu 13 Mar 19:54
quote:
Language, as a whole is always evoling, and is a mirror of our times. What was ungramatical yesteryear could be considered grammtical today.
Compare ye olde Shakesspeare English to todays hip-hop English.
True, but I think in the case of netspeak, language is devolving.
Rappy talk is "devolved" Engish with it's trendy made up word of the month patterns etc. It's especially lame when rappers try to dig up dead slangs from the 70s and try to repopularize them.
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"Re(1):devolving"
, posted Fri 14 Mar 07:23
Ah. The rap analogy was a bad example.
The point I aimed to make is the language of a certain era will nominally be considered to have devolved from the standards of any earlier era due to the acceptance of slang as standard in said later era. This is from the POV of a resident from the earlier era.
From the POV of the residents of the later era, the language will not be considered to have devolved because it is the norm that they are exposed to everyday.
(Whew! Long sentence there, with too many parameters)
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"WELCOME TO THE FUTURE"
, posted Fri 14 Mar 10:09
quote:From the POV of the residents of the later era, the language will not be considered to have devolved because it is the norm that they are exposed to everyday.
i was waiting for someone to say that
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"Re(2):Internet shorthand used in school essay"
, posted Sun 16 Mar 20:45
quote: Though -- is it really a decline in literacy standard that's to blame? Or was the student just in an experimental mood that day? (I don't know about you guys, but to me, age 13 is a just a bit late to start noticing that a student is using that particular writing style...)
I think the English language is dying. People just don't care about grammar anymore, and they'll bitch out anyone who dares correct them. In fact, if I type with proper punctuation and capitalization online, people act like I'm the weird one. And this is high school we're talking about.
I fear for the future.
It's all 1984... Anyone remember NewSpeak? I say we just start speaking that since it's where we're going anyway. I'll start off the decline of western civilization by translating old catchphrases that nobody uses anymore into new speak. "What are you doing?" translates to "What Doing!"
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"Re(3):Internet shorthand used in school essay"
, posted Mon 17 Mar 00:02
quote: It's all 1984... Anyone remember NewSpeak?
It's double plus good.
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"Re(2):devolving"
, posted Mon 17 Mar 02:50
quote: Ah. The rap analogy was a bad example.
The point I aimed to make is the language of a certain era will nominally be considered to have devolved from the standards of any earlier era due to the acceptance of slang as standard in said later era. This is from the POV of a resident from the earlier era.
From the POV of the residents of the later era, the language will not be considered to have devolved because it is the norm that they are exposed to everyday.
(Whew! Long sentence there, with too many parameters)
Yeah, but there is still language that has never been accepted, or caught on. Not every linguistic nuance stays around or. There are some forms of speech that used years ago have never been melded into the mainstream.
Also in the case of slang even though it may be considered the norm by many people today, while it wasn't years ago, it still is regarded by many people who use it to be a devolving of the language. Not saying your point was not valid though :)
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