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|  "random pointless thought: ethics in Metroid"
, posted Fri 28 Feb 03:35:
First of all lemme warn that this post contains spoilers. Argument may not be this saga's main point of interest but even with that, it has these Super Metroid and Fusion important spoilers and a few others, so be careful if you haven't played the games (I doubt it, but I don't wanna spoil anyone).
Ok,here we go: since I'm kind of "weird" I usually pay attention to some details generally just ignored by other people because they don't care, and here's one example:
In Metroid this saga's all around heroine, Samus, saves the galaxy by preventing the Space Pirates to use the metroids' incredible power for whichever evil purpose they had...
Until here, it's OK. But....
In Metroid II, Return of Samus she is ordered to simply and preventively eradicate ALL the metroids because they could become a great threat for human race (George Bush Jr with Irak, anyone?).
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And she does it, leaving only this little hatchling that confuses her with its mother/whatever,
End of Spoiler
so wasn't more the human race a threat for the metroids than viceversa?
And it doesn't end here....
In Super Metroid
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the last metroid alive sacrifices itself, extinguishing its race now definitely, to save their eradicator's life. If that wasn't an extreme case of Stockholm syndrome, I don't know what it was...
End of Spoiler
And no, still doesn't end here....
Cuz we have now Metroid Fusion where it's proven that eliminating the Metroids from the surface of SR388 has altered its ecosystem and now these new threatening creatures, the X, have appeared now, because their natural predator, the metroid, ain't there any more... oooops.... Not only with that, Samus (and her bosses) are the ones to bring the X to human civilization via her body, and that's what turns the X into a menace once they gain access to knowledge, since the only thing they want
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is to survive and evolve (as stated by Adam) like any other living creature. And what's the intelligent solution that Samus has to solve thsi problem? Apply the Pokemon philosophy: GOTTA BLOW 'EM ALL!!
End of Spoiler
Yeah... she's a nice girl, ain't she?
EDIT: editing a post makes spoiler warnings disappear, I had to rewrite part of the message dammit.
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| Saint Rygar
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| "Re(1):random pointless thought: ethics in Met" , posted Fri 28 Feb 09:56
quote:
First of all lemme warn that this post contains spoilers. Argument may not be this saga's main point of interest but even with that, it has these Super Metroid and Fusion important spoilers and a few others, so be careful if you haven't played the games (I doubt it, but I don't wanna spoil anyone).
Ok,here we go: since I'm kind of "weird" I usually pay attention to some details generally just ignored by other people because they don't care, and here's one example:
In Metroid this saga's all around heroine, Samus, saves the galaxy by preventing the Space Pirates to use the metroids' incredible power for whichever evil purpose they had...
Until here, it's OK. But....
In Metroid II, Return of Samus she is ordered to simply and preventively eradicate ALL the metroids because they could become a great threat for human race (George Bush Jr with Irak, anyone?). so wasn't more the human race a threat for the metroids than viceversa?
And it doesn't end here....
In Super Metroid
And no, still doesn't end here....
Cuz we have now Metroid Fusion where it's proven that eliminating the Metroids from the surface of SR388 has altered its ecosystem and now these new threatening creatures, the X, have appeared now, because their natural predator, the metroid, ain't there any more... oooops.... Not only with that, Samus (and her bosses) are the ones to bring the X to human civilization via her body, and that's what turns the X into a menace once they gain access to knowledge, since the only thing they want
Yeah... she's a nice girl, ain't she?
EDIT: editing a post makes spoiler warnings disappear, I had to rewrite part of the message dammit.
That's why i like so much the Metroid games. It's always nice to see the history on a "gray" point of view not all good and all evil boring stuff. But that's common nowdays, besides nobody said Samus was a nice girl for the start or a "heroine" come on!! she's a bounty hunter she only works for money and she cares a S...t about anything else.
En pocas palabras nunca se plantea que ella sea noble, honorable y que piense que debe traer la paz a la galaxia de los terribles Metroids y piratas del espacio, mas bien la contrataron porke es buena en lo que hace y punto. Y en cuanto a la raza humana no es nada nuevo o si?
There's no one without scars on his heart even if it exist it's just a shadow soul...
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| Sensenic 394th Post
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| "Re(2):random pointless thought: ethics in Met" , posted Fri 28 Feb 10:24
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That's why i like so much the Metroid games. It's always nice to see the history on a "gray" point of view not all good and all evil boring stuff. But that's common nowdays, besides nobody said Samus was a nice girl for the start or a "heroine" come on!! she's a bounty hunter she only works for money and she cares a S...t about anything else.
En pocas palabras nunca se plantea que ella sea noble, honorable y que piense que debe traer la paz a la galaxia de los terribles Metroids y piratas del espacio, mas bien la contrataron porke es buena en lo que hace y punto.
Agreed... partially.
First of all, must say I love these games, much specially Super Metroid, the fist one I played, and I like realism in plots too (And in this point, Metroid's plot is very realistic -sigh-). It's just this curious fact that, for what I'd been reading, no one seemed to notice, so I pulled it out.
But on the part about Samus never supposed to be noble, heroine, etc... I think it's not that clear. Of course she's definitely no...eeeuh... princess Peach/Toadstool for example. But, about the heroine part, if you see Super Metroid's intro, the first phrase: The last metroid is in captivity. The galaxy is at peace (that voice rocks BTW  ) they say that they've been saved thanks to Samus. And, on the noble part, I think she evolves as games pass. First she is like you said, but in SM she already talks about the metroid being great for mankind or something similar and specially there's the option to save those creatures that helped her, the Dachola and the Etecoons. But the thing gets more obvious in Fusion,
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where Samus does show some feelings (for Adam, her "friends" on SM...) and she decides to oppose orders and make her final work not for money...she's even decided to sacrifice herself to avoid the disaster
End of Spoiler
On the "nice girl" part I was just being ironic (heh, heh...)
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Y en cuanto a la raza humana no es nada nuevo o si?
u_uU No, no... ya lo sé, ya...
Rincewind: Hello! Anyone out there?!
An unsafe state is a state that isn't safe
-Stallings book on OS-
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