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| Tashoku Kisune 1850th Post
 
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|  "Re(2):Questions I've been meaning to ask..."
, posted Wed 26 Feb 19:45:
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It's been a while now since I've seen the entire series of Revolutionary Girl Utena. But I never got around to asking the cafe about it. So tell me.. how many of you have seen some/most/all of the series? (I rather dispise the movie.) And do you guys have any favorite characters? ^_^
I've seen the first arc of it. It's sad... I've held off on seeing the rest of the series to encourage myself to purchase it if/when they finish releasing the series here... I like what I've seen a lot, just wish I could see the rest of it. Oh, my favorate character is Miki.
And on a different note. Those of you who have seen most or all of Fruits Baskets... have a favorite character from there?
Ack! That show is rather infomus around my friends and I, and has been the subject of many dramatic yoai readings...
And another question: How many of you are familiar with the manga Mars? And if not Mars, Paradise Kiss? Yeah.. they're shoujo but I'm curious anyway. Mars is actually pretty good.. I'm not sure it'd be that bad for the guys, either. Has some action to it.
I've heard of them, but don't know much beyond that. I've been out of the loop too long I guess...
Wow.. a Miki fan?! O_O That's so rare! I like Miki tons. I actually made a wallpaper of him because he's so precious. As for my favorite character.. I don't really know. I'm a BIG BIG BIG Mikage fan. But I also really like Anthy by the end, Juri I understand, and Saionji I appreciate. But I guess if I had to choose one.. it would be Mikage. ^_^
I'm sorry, Naruto.. but it took me a while to figure out what you were talking about. But you mean Mikage and Mamiya, right? The duo that bring about the black ring thing. Yeah.. ^_^ Wow! I guess we kinda share a favorite character. (I added this in later when I finally figured it out. ^_^; I'm so sorry.)
As for Fruits Basket. Well yes.. admittedly.. it's... umm... well.. something else, to be sure. But I sorta like it because it has an ultimately optomistic view. I'm in real need of reinforcing in the optomist department.
And Naruto.. no worries. This girl owns a Bastard shirt. LOL. So perhaps I like it too. ;p No?
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| Tashoku Kisune 1857th Post
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| "Re(6):Questions I've been meaning to ask..." , posted Thu 27 Feb 21:12:
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I'd eat flesh for Shiori!!
Actually I like of the Utena characters. For such an out there fantasy anime, the characters are all down to earth with very human flaws to them. I'm partial to Nanami, Juri, and Shiori the most though.
I actually like the movie more than the TV series in some places. Sure, it's bit too weird in places and a lot of characters are reduced to small parts (and are nowhere near as deep). But the Anthy in the movie is alot deeper as a character, and it shows that she has more to do with the events at Othori than the TV (And the she herself needs to want to break free, which is why she's fighting at the end).
So in that way I find it a good end to the TV series..
For Fruits Basket, Baka-Neko is my favorite out of alot characters I really like....
Yikes! Shiori?! O_O She's one crazy bizatch. She's my least favorite. ^_^; And she's right up there with Kozue and Akio.
However, I agree with you on the characters. All of them do have rather human flaws. I don't hate Nanami, she's not my favorite.. but she's closer to being liked than hated on my list.
Having seen the whole series I actually think Anthy was actually a rather deep character. By the end your opinion really completely changes on her... especially with the last episode. It really sort of opens your eyes and clears up all that wondering on what the hell's going on. Though admittedly... nothing is ever truly cleared up in Utena.
One of the things I've noticed about Utena is that it's really deep in symbolism. There is pretty much a character for everyone, even the oridinary (Wakaba). And it's easiest to understand that person's story. There are other characters that are harder to relate to and their stories are harder to follow. It's tricky like that... and even then it's so deep in symbolism and subtle hints of things that it's really quite difficult. In one particuarl episode (one with Mikage) there's a reference to a painting (Manet's "Olympia"). It's really sort of strange to reference things like that. How many people would REALLY pick up on that enough to get the reference and actually understand the meaninag of using that painting? o_O
The series is rather complicated in that respect. Something that disappointed me in the movie was it's utter simplicity. After seeing the series I was expecting something a little more.... mind boggling. It's possible to take the series at face value and not see a difference between the series and the movie. But the more detail oriented you are, I think, the more the series is appreciated. It's full of very tiny trivial facts that only the hoarders of pointless knowledge would really pick up on. I only recognized the painting reference because I recently got out of an art history class (and passed). Manet's Olympia happened to be one of the ones we studied and I remembered it.
The movie was disappointing because Anthy was transformed from a quiet, refiend and mysterious girl into a mysterious prostitute-like girl from hell.
It also came to my attention that the series had considerably less lesbianism between Utena and Anthy. I have a feeling that the movie was more aimed at guys. It was rather much like taking shoujo and making it into shounen. Suddenly.. Utena was a raving lesbian. I mean... like her first line was hitting on Wakaba. o_O What's with that?! And I do say... the Anthy x Utena stuff sort of disturbed me.
Now by now everyone should know that I completely support gays, lesbians, transvestites, crossdressers, transsexuals, hermaphrodites.. etc. Nothing phases me in that department. But what does is sort of a disgrace to the mystery that was supposed to be Utena. ^_^;
I was very very disappointed in the presentation. The animation was beautiful.. but I was disappointed.
I didn't have too much trouble with the fact that the plot was nothing like the series. That's ok because I never expect it to be. But I was hoping for something in the character department. In the movie the characters were instantaneously flattened to one or two dimensions. The only subtle hints in the movie were to the series, all of which I caught.
I suppose it could be best said that I really enjoy series that confuse me to hell. Serial Experiments Lain is another one of my favorites because it's confusing. Utena as a series was confusing due to the immense useage of that lovely symbolism (that stuff we all used to hate in English class).
As for Baka-neko. ^_^ He's cute. He's up there on my like list. The one I hate the most is Kagura. (Poor me.. I was born in the year of the boar. ;_; )
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| Taa kun 403th Post
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| "Re(3):Questions I've been meaning to ask..." , posted Mon 3 Mar 07:15
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Taa kun: Noooooo! Akio?! ;_; You make me cry.
Akio was one of my least favorite characters. But then again.. bein' female I gotta beef with a guy like that. It's just personal. LOL. I, however, like manipulative and cunning people... it's just how he presented it. He just defiled everything he touched.
He keeps defiling everything he touches, but why does women ask for more (in this case), maybe because he's the prince...
Yeah, he's the fallen prince, and he falls one step more down at the end...
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Hatsuharu kicks mucho ass. He sorta reminds me of K' at times. Perhaps it's the poor posture. ^_^;
I like the too soft and too hard Hatsuharu, and Suyama Akio's voice fits him so good (Ohgami from Sakura Taisen).
Ow, volume 11 of Furuba is out, a lot of answers... I won't spoil...
By the way, Mars french edition just started...
Tsukurimashou... Tsukurimashou...
Sate sate nani ga dekiru ka na ?
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i hope i can see it later.
even if it exist it's just a shadow soul...
"Re(6):Questions I've been meaning to ask..." 
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