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"Racing games on DC?" , posted Wed 12 Feb 05:31post reply


While I'm not the biggest fan of racing games, I admit that I've really enjoyed a few (Rage Racer, R4, Gran Turismo 1 and 2, and Colin McRae), and I was thinking in getting one for my Dreamcast. Which one do you recommend? No matter if it's more to the arcade or simulation sides, I want one that's fun, has nice tracks, and if possible, a nice car selection. I heard that MSR is the best, it's that true?

Well, thanks for any info!






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"Re(1):Racing games on DC?" , posted Wed 12 Feb 06:27post reply


quote:
While I'm not the biggest fan of racing games, I admit that I've really enjoyed a few (Rage Racer, R4, Gran Turismo 1 and 2, and Colin McRae), and I was thinking in getting one for my Dreamcast. Which one do you recommend? No matter if it's more to the arcade or simulation sides, I want one that's fun, has nice tracks, and if possible, a nice car selection. I heard that MSR is the best, it's that true?

Well, thanks for any info!



Well, if you like Gran Turismo, you'll probably like Sega GT. I didn't really like it much on DC or Xbox, but I'm not a GT fan, and that's what it plays most like, so...

Tokyo Xtreme Racer games are okay, not excellent but fun. However, I also think "ricer" modifications like coffee can exhaust, ugly bodykits, and huge spoilers are stupid, so there are some parts of the game I don't enjoy, heheh.

MSR probably is the best, a lot of people seem to dig it, but I just couldn't get into it. I'm really picky about my racing games, and for my money, R4 is still the most fun.





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"Re(2):Racing games on DC?" , posted Wed 12 Feb 06:51post reply


I agree with Grave. Sega GT,MSR and R4 are the best options.

Anyway, there are some alternatives for those who dare to vary like:

-Shoutoko Battle 1 & 2 --> Tokyo Xtreme Highway japanese versions (As far as I remember)

-Austin Powers Mojo Rally --> Just kidding :P

-Ferrari F355 Challenge .-> Not bad once you get used to the unique inside viewpoint

-Sega Rally 2 --> Classic

-bleem! Gran Turismo 2 <-- Still Great if you cant play GT3

I miss my old Super Monaco GP. Good old times...






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"Re(3):Racing games on DC?" , posted Wed 12 Feb 10:44:post reply


Well - I *only* like arcade racers, and care not at all for sims. So shotoku highway battle 2/tokyo extreme racer is my 100%DC favorite. really frustrating at times, but...well I really enjoy it.

Only DC racer I play, period :\

but then - the only racing series I enjoy are ridge racer, daytona, Initial D and shb...





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"Re(4):Racing games on DC?" , posted Wed 12 Feb 16:23post reply


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Well - I *only* like arcade racers, and care not at all for sims.



Yeah, that's how I am... part of the reason I hate the new trends in racing games. I really loved R4, it just clicked with me. I hope the new Ridge Racer will play more like it than RRV did. RRV wasn't bad, just... not as good as R4, to me.

The "sim" style gameplay seems a little odd to me. It doesn't feel like driving real car to me, and yet, it doesn't seem very fun, either. It just feels like playing a slow driving game with no real sense of speed and no fun gameplay. Gran Turismo seems ploddingly dull to me. You never feel like you're really going fast, and the so-called realistic physics make for a lot of sudden slowing down, and... well, I know my opinion is in the minority, but I don't see why it's so successful. I liked the first GT, but as they went on, I seemed to enjoy them less... but to its credit, GT3 is a gorgeous game. I've never seen such realistic renditions of real-world cars, I don't think. Part of me wanted to buy it just to drive the WRX...

And maybe that's the appeal of GT. Drive the cars you can't afford! But I wish I could do it in a more unrealistic environment. I don't know, it just seems to me that I get more of a real thrill when I'm driving my car than I do in the video game... I play the video game to do things I can't do in real life, not reproduce the experience.

I was really burned when I heard auto modellista is a sim-type game. I wanted it to have insane arcade physics to go with the beautiful cel-shaded look. Alas, I guess it's not to be.

I guess F-Zero will always be fun...





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"Re(5):Racing games on DC?" , posted Wed 12 Feb 17:07post reply


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Well - I *only* like arcade racers, and care not at all for sims.


Yeah, that's how I am... part of the reason I hate the new trends in racing games. I really loved R4, it just clicked with me. I hope the new Ridge Racer will play more like it than RRV did. RRV wasn't bad, just... not as good as R4, to me.

The "sim" style gameplay seems a little odd to me. It doesn't feel like driving real car to me, and yet, it doesn't seem very fun, either. It just feels like playing a slow driving game with no real sense of speed and no fun gameplay. Gran Turismo seems ploddingly dull to me. You never feel like you're really going fast, and the so-called realistic physics make for a lot of sudden slowing down, and... well, I know my opinion is in the minority, but I don't see why it's so successful. I liked the first GT, but as they went on, I seemed to enjoy them less... but to its credit, GT3 is a gorgeous game. I've never seen such realistic renditions of real-world cars, I don't think. Part of me wanted to buy it just to drive the WRX...

And maybe that's the appeal of GT. Drive the cars you can't afford! But I wish I could do it in a more unrealistic environment. I don't know, it just seems to me that I get more of a real thrill when I'm driving my car than I do in the video game... I play the video game to do things I can't do in real life, not reproduce the experience.

I was really burned when I heard auto modellista is a sim-type game. I wanted it to have insane arcade physics to go with the beautiful cel-shaded look. Alas, I guess it's not to be.

I guess F-Zero will always be fun...




Yah i loved R4. Its an awesome game. R5 seemed pretty good too i dont own a ps2 tho.

I would say the best race game on dc
is F355 challenge, the powerslides in that game can be monstrous plus i heard the make actual ferrari drivers practice on a souped version of that game.

I dunno if i would actually pay more than 5 bucks for it tho.

The only race games i would pay for would be a sequel to wipeout or ridge racer.





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"Re(3):Racing games on DC?" , posted Wed 12 Feb 17:49post reply


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-Ferrari F355 Challenge .-> Not bad once you get used to the unique inside viewpoint

-Sega Rally 2 --> Classic



Argh! I can't believe I forgot SR2. I'm a dolt. SR2 is pretty cool. I wonder if we'll see a third on a new console someday...

And as for F355, well, damn! Requires way too much precision for my taste, but I can see why people would dig it. The "Challenge" in the name wasn't kidding. Can't get into it, really, especially without that wacky arcade setup.

It'd be kinda like playing Airline Pilots without 3 monitors... Kinda sucks a lot of the novelty value away.

Oh! And I forgot Daytona USA, too. Oddly enough, I think the Saturn port is more fun, because the DC version's control is messed up beyond belief. You gotta tweak it a LOT to get comfortable.

That, and they messed up the hilarious/funky B-UNIV music.

I still wish Super GT/Scud Race came out for DC. I loved that game in arcades... but maybe that's because of the tilting cabinet. That was tons of fun to play in. It's kinda like Top Skater, I think... it just wouldn't be fun at home, maybe.





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"Re(1):Racing games on DC?" , posted Wed 12 Feb 18:57post reply


MSR was definitely my favorite.
I really loved the kudos system.
Nice graphics, and the radio option was innovative too.





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"Re(1):Racing games on DC?" , posted Thu 13 Feb 04:29post reply


Thanks everybody, I'll check MSR first.

And yeah, R4 was great, it merged arcade gameplay, beautiful graphics and Reiko Nagase! I don't need much more than that, really. And for racers without cars... well, I love Wipeout XL.






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"Re(2):Racing games on DC?" , posted Thu 13 Feb 04:44post reply


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Thanks everybody, I'll check MSR first.

And yeah, R4 was great, it merged arcade gameplay, beautiful graphics and Reiko Nagase! I don't need much more than that, really. And for racers without cars... well, I love Wipeout XL.



Hehehe, Ive always preferred Rage Racer...don't ask me why ^^.

R4 is superb but gives me not what I need from a Ridge Racer game. From my view R4 is a new concept nearest to (mmm don't kill me) Gran Turismo...with brands..teams...and so (I found it way too easy).

RR5...deserve a new thread >_<
I need to hear about any RR6 project so gimme good news please ;_;






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"Re(3):Racing games on DC?" , posted Thu 13 Feb 14:08post reply


Daytona USA! Get Daytona USA! The only racing game you'll ever need. Hydro Thunder is good too.

Now, if Sega would only release Sega Super GT (Scud Race) or Daytona USA 2 (Battle on the Edge or Power Edition).





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"Re(4):Racing games on DC?" , posted Thu 13 Feb 19:24post reply


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Daytona USA! Get Daytona USA! The only racing game you'll ever need. Hydro Thunder is good too.

Now, if Sega would only release Sega Super GT (Scud Race) or Daytona USA 2 (Battle on the Edge or Power Edition).



I read that Scud Racer was ported initially to dc as a demo to get the ball rolling for the dreamcast before it came out and was shown off at some early electronics expo..
that was a dope game.

I always wanted to play Rage Racer...





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"Re(5):Racing games on DC?" , posted Thu 13 Feb 19:28post reply


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I read that Scud Racer was ported initially to dc as a demo to get the ball rolling for the dreamcast before it came out and was shown off at some early electronics expo..
that was a dope game.

I always wanted to play Rage Racer...



I had seen screenshots of what was supposedly Scud Race running on DC, and it looked good... but that was a long time ago. I'm kinda sad it never matured beyond that.

Rage Racer is good, and I liked it a lot... before R4. The drift style in R4 changes the way I look at racers, heh, to me it just seemed like perfection. Rage Racer is still good to play, but I can't see it the same since... It doesn't sell for a lot used, but it's kinda hard to find now. It's worth grabbing if you see it.

By the way, got a question for everybody, especially Namco race fans... how many of you have/use neGcon and or Jogcon controllers? I have both... bought a neGcon long ago, and I got a Jogcon with the R4 limited edition package. Both are fun, but Jogcon seems more like a novelty than anything else. The force feedback is very cool, but neGcon is actually useful for gameplay...