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"Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 31 Jan 21:05post reply


What's your favorite Japanese legend or folktale?






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"Re(1):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 31 Jan 21:13post reply


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What's your favorite Japanese legend or folktale?



the DYNASTY WARRIORS character and the way samurai's commit suicide , wait does these even count ?! O_o anyway bye.





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"Re(1):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 31 Jan 21:16post reply


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What's your favorite Japanese legend or folktale?



I can't remember clearly, but I like a Japanese folktale about a boy who was born in a big peach, or something like that.





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"Re(1):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 31 Jan 21:23post reply


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What's your favorite Japanese legend or folktale?



Urashima Taro! ^__^

If it's Asian, I'd count the 108 stars as a runner-up.





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"Re(2):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 31 Jan 21:33post reply


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the DYNASTY WARRIORS character and the way samurai's commit suicide , wait does these even count ?! O_o anyway bye.



Eep.. hate to leap in with corrections, but...

The Dynasty Warriors games are based on the Romance of the 3 Kingdoms games, which are based on the 3 Kingdoms period of Chinese history... not Japanese legends at all.

As for samurais killing themselves, I'd let someone who knows more about the subject handle that... I know it's not a legend, they certainly did do it if dishonored, but I'm not sure under what circumstances.





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"Re(2):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 31 Jan 21:33:post reply


I like the legend of the moe moe lolicon serafuku imouto nekomimi no onna no ko. But alas, its just a legend...

Legend of Mona!!





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"Re(2):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 31 Jan 21:34post reply


i like the one with that raccoon dog and his nuts





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"Re(1):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 31 Jan 21:34post reply


Kaidan!






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"Re(3):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 31 Jan 21:39post reply


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As for samurais killing themselves, I'd let someone who knows more about the subject handle that... I know it's not a legend, they certainly did do it if dishonored, but I'm not sure under what circumstances.


Ah, Seppuku. There were about 20 different kinds of seppuku, depending on what stained your honor. Most samurai who committed seppuku were forced to do so by the bakufu; it was essentially an execution for samurai. Of course, some did it to genuinely preserve their honor.






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"Re(4):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 31 Jan 21:51post reply


My favorite Japanese legend is...

The Legend of Zelda

[Get's booed off stage]

I don't know that much about Japanese mythology/legends. The Kusanagi legend which KOF is sort of based on is all right- I don't know how much is derived from it.

I'm not sure there are any national myths. Someone want to clarify that? I know about the creation myth (of Japan). I once read a book about Shintoism and the Kami (the spirits of the gods), but it wasn't very specific about any gods. It mentioned a few major dietys (sp?) but didn't go into great detail.

I wonder what religion Ryu adheres too? Maybe a Shinto-Buddhist-Zen combo? And is Akuma really a demon? How did he become one?





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"Re(5):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 31 Jan 22:36post reply


Warning - All I learned about Japanese legends I learned from Anime and Manga! Having said that, I'll list a few I liked that I've cleaned from various sources...

The legend of Orochi - Used in KOF, Blue Seed, and for Comedy in Ranma. Quite an intresting bit of legend that can be interpreted many ways....

Anything to do with Oda Nobunuga - Okay, not really legend (More History). But he's been the bad guy in a whole lot of Samurai anime, movies, and games that he deserves mentioning here. And I probably should track down some of his real history (as I doubt he's really a demon...Well he could be).

The Legend of Peach Boy - It's a kid with an Ax, and a bear that does Sumo. What isn't cool about that?

Honorable mention to the Amaretsu in a cave story, which I liked as well but am too lazy to dig up the UY comic it was in....:P

Journey to the West also deserves mentioning here, even if it is a Chinese tale. The Japanese sure love retelling it enough that it does belong here (See Sayuki, Dragonball, and SonSon from MvC2).





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"Re(6):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 31 Jan 22:58post reply


I like the nine tails fox legend.





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"Re(1):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sat 1 Feb 03:09post reply


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What's your favorite Japanese legend or folktale?

I like the legends with the evil samuri finding new gained power and constantly fighting his or her rival.

Were there any female samuris?

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"Re(2):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sat 1 Feb 12:11post reply


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What's your favorite Japanese legend or folktale?
I like the legends with the evil samuri finding new gained power and constantly fighting his or her rival.

Were there any female samuris?

MESSATSU


i'm not an expert or anything (so please correct me if anything i say is erroneous. i wanna learn too!) but when i was considering doing a paper on the Tokugawa era (because of Kenshin, heheh), i was looking through an old book and i read of some women that fought on the battlefield because of the shortage of an army

does anyone have any more information on this? i'm interested too now

hmmm, i found this site
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2128.html

i doubt it has anything particularly on women samurais but it looks like an interesting read





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"Re(3):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sat 1 Feb 12:23post reply


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Were there any female samuris?


Definetely not.

Urashima Taro is a good legend, but someone mentioned it already. I think my favorite legend is Tanabata.





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"Re(7):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sat 1 Feb 22:04post reply


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I like the nine tails fox legend.



Actually, like the "Dynasty Warriors" that also originated from China.





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"Re(1):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sun 2 Feb 02:06post reply


The Shinto story on the creation of Japan is ok (the one with the 3 sacred treasures: the sword, the jewel, and the mirror), but my favorite story is the Orochi story. I mean, the hero whose name I forget, gives Orochi so much alchol until Orochi is too drunk to fight back and then kills Orochi, finding the sacred sword, the Kusanagi, in its stomach. Thus, he saves the last of the 8 maidens the Orochi was going to eat and she becomes his bride. "Get an awesome sword and a girl for making an eight-headed eight-tailed serpent monster really drunk." Ah, if only that was the morale of most stories. Also, would be a pretty interesting way to kill a monster if used in a RPG. You just stock up on tons of alchol at the local tavern and get in a drinking contest with every major monster you meet until they are so drunk that you can kill them easily.





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"Re(2):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sun 2 Feb 04:39post reply


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Also, would be a pretty interesting way to kill a monster if used in a RPG. You just stock up on tons of alchol at the local tavern and get in a drinking contest with every major monster you meet until they are so drunk that you can kill them easily.


oh god i might have to steal that idea. it'd make an awesome minigame!

i mean, uh, don't mind me XD





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"Re(2):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sun 2 Feb 05:20post reply


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The Shinto story on the creation of Japan is ok (the one with the 3 sacred treasures: the sword, the jewel, and the mirror), but my favorite story is the Orochi story. I mean, the hero whose name I forget, gives Orochi so much alchol until Orochi is too drunk to fight back and then kills Orochi, finding the sacred sword, the Kusanagi, in its stomach. Thus, he saves the last of the 8 maidens the Orochi was going to eat and she becomes his bride. "Get an awesome sword and a girl for making an eight-headed eight-tailed serpent monster really drunk." Ah, if only that was the morale of most stories. Also, would be a pretty interesting way to kill a monster if used in a RPG. You just stock up on tons of alchol at the local tavern and get in a drinking contest with every major monster you meet until they are so drunk that you can kill them easily.



Ermm... according to some page (Spanish) where I read it some time ago, the 3 sacred treasures come from the Orochi legend:

After getting Orochi drunk, the hero (the god of thunder, Susano-o) killed "it" with his sword, took from Orochi's navel (^_^U) the "medalion of life" (Magatama) and from the last head to die's tears he made the mirror that was later given to princess Kushinada's younger sister, Yata. Those 3 objects were given to the king (or whatever the princess' father was) as wedding presents. They later became the 3 Japan national treasures: the Kusanagi sword, the Magatama talisman and the Yata mirror.

So, perhaps the shinto legend about the creation of Japan and the Orochi legend are the same (being the Orochi story just a part of the other). Or perhaps the page where I read it was wrong, of course...





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"Re(2):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sun 2 Feb 06:21post reply


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What's your favorite Japanese legend or folktale?


I can't remember clearly, but I like a Japanese folktale about a boy who was born in a big peach, or something like that.



I think his name is Momotaro.





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"Re(3):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sun 2 Feb 10:50post reply


It is correct. The Kusanagi sword is the sword from the Shinto creation myth, but the Orochi story is more like a mini-tale inside the larger tale of the Shinto creation myth. However, usually in the Shinto creation myth, they sometimes glide over the whole Orochi story (and I know there was like 1 or 2 more mini-stories in there), so sometimes they are like seperate stories.





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"Re(2):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sun 2 Feb 19:10post reply


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What's your favorite Japanese legend or folktale?


I can't remember clearly, but I like a Japanese folktale about a boy who was born in a big peach, or something like that.



Yeah, I remember that one. That's one of my favorites, too. I forget what it was called.. had "momo" in the title. Momotaro? I forget.. ;_;





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"Re(3):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sun 2 Feb 19:30post reply


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Yeah, I remember that one. That's one of my favorites, too. I forget what it was called.. had "momo" in the title. Momotaro? I forget.. ;_;


Yeah, it's Momotaro. Hasn't anybody heard of Kaidan? >_<

Anyway, how about mythic Japanese monsters? I'm sure everybody here knows what a tengu or a kappa are, but how about a kama-itachi, a nurarihyon, or the nuperabo? :D






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"Re(4):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sun 2 Feb 19:58post reply


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Yeah, I remember that one. That's one of my favorites, too. I forget what it was called.. had "momo" in the title. Momotaro? I forget.. ;_;

Yeah, it's Momotaro. Hasn't anybody heard of Kaidan? >_<

Anyway, how about mythic Japanese monsters? I'm sure everybody here knows what a tengu or a kappa are, but how about a kama-itachi, a nurarihyon, or the nuperabo? :D



I LOVE Tengu!

I'm not sure if Kitsune would be considered a "monster" more as a creature.. depending upon your perspective. But I love Kitsune to death.





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"Re(5):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sun 2 Feb 23:16post reply


Or that umbrella guy with the long tongue?





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"Re(3):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sun 2 Feb 23:28post reply


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Ermm... according to some page (Spanish) where I read it some time ago, the 3 sacred treasures come from the Orochi legend:

After getting Orochi drunk, the hero (the god of thunder, Susano-o) killed "it" with his sword, took from Orochi's navel (^_^U) the "medalion of life" (Magatama) and from the last head to die's tears he made the mirror that was later given to princess Kushinada's younger sister, Yata. Those 3 objects were given to the king (or whatever the princess' father was) as wedding presents. They later became the 3 Japan national treasures: the Kusanagi sword, the Magatama talisman and the Yata mirror.

So, perhaps the shinto legend about the creation of Japan and the Orochi legend are the same (being the Orochi story just a part of the other). Or perhaps the page where I read it was wrong, of course...



I've heard of the 3 symbol/items long before I heard of orochi. I would assumet they don't originate in the orochi story until Rugal says otherwise or I read the orochi story and see otherwise. This is a fan site that mentions King of Fighters so their introduction to the orochi and the 3 goodies is probably with their fandom, which infulences their point of view.





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"Re(6):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Mon 3 Feb 18:05post reply


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Or that umbrella guy with the long tongue?


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"Re(2):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Fri 7 Feb 17:09:post reply


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The Shinto story on the creation of Japan is ok (the one with the 3 sacred treasures: the sword, the jewel, and the mirror), but my favorite story is the Orochi story. I mean, the hero whose name I forget, gives Orochi so much alchol until Orochi is too drunk to fight back and then kills Orochi, finding the sacred sword, the Kusanagi, in its stomach. Thus, he saves the last of the 8 maidens the Orochi was going to eat and she becomes his bride. "Get an awesome sword and a girl for making an eight-headed eight-tailed serpent monster really drunk." Ah, if only that was the morale of most stories. Also, would be a pretty interesting way to kill a monster if used in a RPG. You just stock up on tons of alchol at the local tavern and get in a drinking contest with every major monster you meet until they are so drunk that you can kill them easily.



One of my friends did that when we played Dungeons and dragons ^_^
My favorite is Momotaru, as for monsters, I like the tongue umbrella and bonachus.





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"Re(3):Favorite Japanese Legend" , posted Sat 8 Feb 09:50:post reply


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One of my friends did that when we played Dungeons and dragons ^_^
My favorite is Momotaru, as for monsters, I like the tongue umbrella and bonachus.



^_^ Momotaro is one of my favorites. I had another one.. but I don't remember it. ;_;

But I just adore kitsune. ^_^;





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