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| Hagen de Merak 310th Post
 
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|  "Silpheed for PS2"
, posted Wed 29 Jan 09:32
Has anyone played this game? i know its a remake of an old sega cd game. im into these kind of shooters, so i was wondering if anyone has played it, if so, is it any good? it cant be that bad if its by treasure. the only thing i know is that its a one player game (ps2 version, dont know about the sega cd version). i need something to hold me off until ikaruga for GC comes out (US version).
oh, and if you think its either good or bad, please give me reasons to back up your opinion, i dont want something like "it sucks!" or "its really great!" without any explanation as to why.
one more thing, if anyone can name some of these type of games, give me a list or something (for current systems).......i just know of gradius 3/4 for ps2, but that is also a remake. oh well, i happen to like remakes 
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| oroch
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| "Re(1):Silpheed for PS2" , posted Wed 29 Jan 13:43
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Has anyone played this game? i know its a remake of an old sega cd game. im into these kind of shooters, so i was wondering if anyone has played it, if so, is it any good? it cant be that bad if its by treasure. the only thing i know is that its a one player game (ps2 version, dont know about the sega cd version). i need something to hold me off until ikaruga for GC comes out (US version).
oh, and if you think its either good or bad, please give me reasons to back up your opinion, i dont want something like "it sucks!" or "its really great!" without any explanation as to why.
one more thing, if anyone can name some of these type of games, give me a list or something (for current systems).......i just know of gradius 3/4 for ps2, but that is also a remake. oh well, i happen to like remakes
its a decent game, not great, i still like the original better
i love daalas tags!
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| exodus 581th Post
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| "Re(1):Silpheed for PS2" , posted Wed 29 Jan 15:22
silpheed, I didn't really like. Further it wasn't fully developed by Treasure, just supervised. In fact, Treasure's logo is NOT on the Japanese box, just the Western release.
here's why I don't like it: it doesn't play as well; movement is not fluid, level design can't touch the original for inventiveness and interactivity, and the enemy bullets are often a similar color to the BG, which is just a total amateur move. Graphics...I wouldn't actually call them better than the original. Sure they're better polys, but you don't feel that visual excitement you get from the first.
when you say 'games like these' do you mean shooters in general, or scaling shooters like silpheed? There are only a few others I can think of. If you just want me to name some *good* shooters, I can certainly help.
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| Hagen de Merak 312th Post
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| "Re(2):Silpheed for PS2" , posted Wed 29 Jan 15:59
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silpheed, I didn't really like. Further it wasn't fully developed by Treasure, just supervised. In fact, Treasure's logo is NOT on the Japanese box, just the Western release.
here's why I don't like it: it doesn't play as well; movement is not fluid, level design can't touch the original for inventiveness and interactivity, and the enemy bullets are often a similar color to the BG, which is just a total amateur move. Graphics...I wouldn't actually call them better than the original. Sure they're better polys, but you don't feel that visual excitement you get from the first.
when you say 'games like these' do you mean shooters in general, or scaling shooters like silpheed? There are only a few others I can think of. If you just want me to name some *good* shooters, I can certainly help.
yeah, i mean shooters in general, throw G.Darius in the mix, it's one of my favs, i have that one for psx. go ahead and name a few if you can, thanks in advance.
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| Grave
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| "Re(3):Silpheed for PS2" , posted Wed 29 Jan 17:08
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yeah, i mean shooters in general, throw G.Darius in the mix, it's one of my favs, i have that one for psx. go ahead and name a few if you can, thanks in advance.
I don't know a lot of recent domestic shooters, but here are a couple of my favorites..
If you've got a Saturn, look for Galactic Attack. It's the US version of Layer Section, the game that comes before Raystorm and Raycrisis. I like it a good deal, and it's dirt cheap. Well, was, anyway. And if you have a Saturn or a PC, you can get Darius Gaiden for next to nothing as well, and for my money, shooters don't get much better. I still love that game to death.
As for PS shooters, there's R-Types, which I believe contained R-Type 1 and 2. G Darius as you mentioned, which I liked, but not as much as Darius Gaiden. And there's Einhander, which I also enjoyed a bit. Oh, I mentioned Raystorm before. I like that game quite a bit too, but I haven't played Raycrisis yet. And as for stuff that just came over not too long ago, there's Strikers 1945 II and Sol Divide. The former you should buy and the latter is decent for $10, but not exactly the kind of game you'll play for very long.
There's plenty of other stuff but my brain's not working properly today. Argh.
Oh, for Dreamcast, there's... okay, I don't have a lot of DC shooters. Giga Wing is okay, very easy though... Gunbird 2 isn't bad. I liked Mars Matrix a lot, interesting gameplay systems. There's a lot of fun stuff out there if you're willing to dig around enough.
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| Gen 1232th Post
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| "Re(1):Silpheed for PS2" , posted Wed 29 Jan 17:19
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Has anyone played this game? i know its a remake of an old sega cd game. im into these kind of shooters, so i was wondering if anyone has played it, if so, is it any good? it cant be that bad if its by treasure. the only thing i know is that its a one player game (ps2 version, dont know about the sega cd version). i need something to hold me off until ikaruga for GC comes out (US version).
oh, and if you think its either good or bad, please give me reasons to back up your opinion, i dont want something like "it sucks!" or "its really great!" without any explanation as to why.
one more thing, if anyone can name some of these type of games, give me a list or something (for current systems).......i just know of gradius 3/4 for ps2, but that is also a remake. oh well, i happen to like remakes
Silpheed for Playstation isn't a remake of the Sega CD one. I like the Silpheed serries and I like this game. The average gamer today who's never played Silpheed might not care for this game. The durring a level game play graphics/backgrounds are not great, which could be attributed to how early this game was relative to the PS2's release.
I've never played the Japanese version, but the English versions voice acting volume is not well calibrated relative to the music and sound effects. I think you can adjust the volume levels though.
You start with basic weapons and earn more as you play.
The game is by Gamearts. http://www.gamearts.com/products/silpheed/index.html
I've been looking for Gekioh Shooting King too...
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| exodus 583th Post
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| "Re(2):Silpheed for PS2" , posted Wed 29 Jan 22:51
OK...
I'll just do psx and dreamcast for now.
YOU SHOULD BUY:
X2 - great sidescrolling shooter from Ocean. Only available in Japan (perhaps europe?). Tons of powerups (TONS), different ships to choose from, fantastic rendered graphics, good length, nice music, fantastic game all round.
Xevius 3D/G+ - vertical 3D shooter from Namco. Very fun, uses next to no textures, but really high-quality gameplay. It feels more like the Sega CD silpheed than the PS2 game does, with its interaction with the background, and its use of space. Great fun.
Gekioh Shooting King - Only $10!! good fun with 9 play-modes 3 of which are different enough to be considered different games. I reviewed this one: here
Darius Gaiden - It's Darius...branching paths, great ship designs, can't go wrong!!! If you have a Saturn though, get that version.
Those are probably my top four. let me know if you want more. Oh yeh...get Einhander if you don't have it.
Dreamcast:
MARS MATRIX. I love it. Great system (made by Takumi), very colorful, great graphics, and just a bulletfest. There are gold pieces which you collect in game for points. These points allow you to buy stuff at the store, like more ships, different ship colors, level replays, et cetera. Great game, and pretty cheap.
Zero Gunner - This game is about to be re-released in japan (march) so that's the time to pick it up. Great shooter from Psikyo, probably the last console game from them, since they're disbanded now. Total 3D, great graphics, if a little short. You've got 360 degrees of movement here, but the screen is still on rails, which makes for a great system. Kind of like a much more sophisticated Cannon Spike.
I heard that gigawing 2 was good, but didn't actually play it since I wasn't partial to the first. Can't help on that one.
But let me know if you need more - or if you have a japanese PS2. Then I have more to say. Hope it helps!
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| Gen 1236th Post
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| "Re(3):Silpheed for PS2" , posted Wed 29 Jan 23:42
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OK...
I'll just do psx and dreamcast for now.
YOU SHOULD BUY:
X2 - great sidescrolling shooter from Ocean. Only available in Japan (perhaps europe?). Tons of powerups (TONS), different ships to choose from, fantastic rendered graphics, good length, nice music, fantastic game all round.
Xevius 3D/G+ - vertical 3D shooter from Namco. Very fun, uses next to no textures, but really high-quality gameplay. It feels more like the Sega CD silpheed than the PS2 game does, with its interaction with the background, and its use of space. Great fun.
Gekioh Shooting King - Only $10!! good fun with 9 play-modes 3 of which are different enough to be considered different games. I reviewed this one: here
Darius Gaiden - It's Darius...branching paths, great ship designs, can't go wrong!!! If you have a Saturn though, get that version.
Those are probably my top four. let me know if you want more. Oh yeh...get Einhander if you don't have it.
Dreamcast:
MARS MATRIX. I love it. Great system (made by Takumi), very colorful, great graphics, and just a bulletfest. There are gold pieces which you collect in game for points. These points allow you to buy stuff at the store, like more ships, different ship colors, level replays, et cetera. Great game, and pretty cheap.
Zero Gunner - This game is about to be re-released in japan (march) so that's the time to pick it up. Great shooter from Psikyo, probably the last console game from them, since they're disbanded now. Total 3D, great graphics, if a little short. You've got 360 degrees of movement here, but the screen is still on rails, which makes for a great system. Kind of like a much more sophisticated Cannon Spike.
I heard that gigawing 2 was good, but didn't actually play it since I wasn't partial to the first. Can't help on that one.
But let me know if you need more - or if you have a japanese PS2. Then I have more to say. Hope it helps!
Anyone know where I can find Gekioh Shooting King and Zero Gunner? I've been looking for Zero Gunner for a while now. Thanks.
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| Spoon
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| "Re(3):Silpheed for PS2" , posted Thu 30 Jan 00:34
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Zero Gunner - This game is about to be re-released in japan (march) so that's the time to pick it up. Great shooter from Psikyo, probably the last console game from them, since they're disbanded now. Total 3D, great graphics, if a little short. You've got 360 degrees of movement here, but the screen is still on rails, which makes for a great system. Kind of like a much more sophisticated Cannon Spike.
I heard that gigawing 2 was good, but didn't actually play it since I wasn't partial to the first. Can't help on that one.
Zero Gunner 1 i heard sucked, but Zero Gunner 2 is awesome; great graphics and a lot of variety in the appearance of each stage, cool ships/guns, and GIANT TRANSFORMING ROBOTS OH YES.
Gigawing 2 is awesome. One of the best soundtracks i've heard for a shooter, insane gameplay, 4 player mode, 1 player controlling 4 ships in formation mode (too funny!), plus some semblance of a story (yay! story!). However, since you have unlimited continues, it can be easy.
PSX ones of note:
Zanac X Zanac - this is the only sequel to Zanac, and it's COOL; in fact, I'm trying to rip the soundtrack so that I can post some songs from it, it's so darned cool. However, you have to import it. Not that easy to find. Heck, I had to get my copy from Emuchina, and that was straight luck.
R-Type Delta - Spectacular graphics, crazy levels and great bosses. One of the best around.
70's Robot Anime Geppy-X
(Yes, that IS it's actual name) - I've been looking for this game for a long, long time and believe you me it's hard to find. I've heard it's a cool game, coming on a whopping 4 discs... each level is like an episode, complete with intros, commercial spots for Geppy-X merchandise, and teaser for the next episode. It sounds buggin hilarious, but it seems to be a rare import.
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| Hagen de Merak 317th Post
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| "Re(3):Silpheed for PS2" , posted Fri 31 Jan 13:22
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OK...
I'll just do psx and dreamcast for now.
YOU SHOULD BUY:
X2 - great sidescrolling shooter from Ocean. Only available in Japan (perhaps europe?). Tons of powerups (TONS), different ships to choose from, fantastic rendered graphics, good length, nice music, fantastic game all round.
Xevius 3D/G+ - vertical 3D shooter from Namco. Very fun, uses next to no textures, but really high-quality gameplay. It feels more like the Sega CD silpheed than the PS2 game does, with its interaction with the background, and its use of space. Great fun.
Gekioh Shooting King - Only $10!! good fun with 9 play-modes 3 of which are different enough to be considered different games. I reviewed this one: here
Darius Gaiden - It's Darius...branching paths, great ship designs, can't go wrong!!! If you have a Saturn though, get that version.
Those are probably my top four. let me know if you want more. Oh yeh...get Einhander if you don't have it.
Dreamcast:
MARS MATRIX. I love it. Great system (made by Takumi), very colorful, great graphics, and just a bulletfest. There are gold pieces which you collect in game for points. These points allow you to buy stuff at the store, like more ships, different ship colors, level replays, et cetera. Great game, and pretty cheap.
Zero Gunner - This game is about to be re-released in japan (march) so that's the time to pick it up. Great shooter from Psikyo, probably the last console game from them, since they're disbanded now. Total 3D, great graphics, if a little short. You've got 360 degrees of movement here, but the screen is still on rails, which makes for a great system. Kind of like a much more sophisticated Cannon Spike.
I heard that gigawing 2 was good, but didn't actually play it since I wasn't partial to the first. Can't help on that one.
hey thanks alot!
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But let me know if you need more - or if you have a japanese PS2. Then I have more to say. Hope it helps!
if it isnt too much trouble, yes, i would like you to name some more. preferably ones that are easy to find. (oh, i dont have a japanese PS2)
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| exodus 595th Post
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| "Re(4):Silpheed for PS2" , posted Fri 31 Jan 14:19
allright - cheap/easy titles
US PSX:
Gekioh Shooting King is easy to find - you can get it on gamestop's website, or in the funcolands and gamestops which haven't sold out yet (I bought the two that my local store got, an hour after they came in ^_^) ONLY 9.99 NEW!!!
Sol Divide you can get for the same price, but from EBgames. It's not a great title though, so only if you're desperate.
Shooter Starfighter Sanvein can be found almost anywhere for under $10 used, or $10 new. Very nice 3D 360 degree shooter...you can jump even. Great game from Success and Agetec which really has some innovative ideas. It was very much overlooked by the shooter crowd :/
Xevious is easy to find. go get it!!
Einhander is pretty easy to find, and hovers around 12-15 used. There are plenty of these around even though it's an old game, due mostly to distribution by Squaresoft. It's essentially a horizontal shooter in 3D, but with the great idea of multiple powerups which have a limited supply of bullets. Three different ships, great enemy and level designs. Also quite difficult.
Raystorm and Raycrisis - These were released in the US by Working Designs/Spaz games. So they're expensive beyond their worth. They're the sequels to Layer Section (Galactic Attack in the US) for saturn, a truly brilliant game. HOWEVER, they're worth the effort if you look for the Raystorm/Raycrisis Simple 1500 series game from japan. Released at only 1500 (maybe 2000) yen with both games, so shouldn't cost over 25 before shipping. But only if you like the style...basically the playstyle is like vertically scrolling Panzer Dragoon (only in implimentation of the shots, nothing else).
Dreamcast games:
Mars Matrix. the rest are kind of tough to find. but DO BUT IT. Great game, probably my favorite DC shooter.
The rest are probably tougher to find...so I won't mention them.
Do you have a Saturn? Great shooters for that system :)
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| Hagen de Merak 320th Post
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| "Re(5):Silpheed for PS2" , posted Sat 1 Feb 01:56
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allright - cheap/easy titles
US PSX:
Gekioh Shooting King is easy to find - you can get it on gamestop's website, or in the funcolands and gamestops which haven't sold out yet (I bought the two that my local store got, an hour after they came in ^_^) ONLY 9.99 NEW!!!
Sol Divide you can get for the same price, but from EBgames. It's not a great title though, so only if you're desperate.
Shooter Starfighter Sanvein can be found almost anywhere for under $10 used, or $10 new. Very nice 3D 360 degree shooter...you can jump even. Great game from Success and Agetec which really has some innovative ideas. It was very much overlooked by the shooter crowd :/
Xevious is easy to find. go get it!!
Einhander is pretty easy to find, and hovers around 12-15 used. There are plenty of these around even though it's an old game, due mostly to distribution by Squaresoft. It's essentially a horizontal shooter in 3D, but with the great idea of multiple powerups which have a limited supply of bullets. Three different ships, great enemy and level designs. Also quite difficult.
Raystorm and Raycrisis - These were released in the US by Working Designs/Spaz games. So they're expensive beyond their worth. They're the sequels to Layer Section (Galactic Attack in the US) for saturn, a truly brilliant game. HOWEVER, they're worth the effort if you look for the Raystorm/Raycrisis Simple 1500 series game from japan. Released at only 1500 (maybe 2000) yen with both games, so shouldn't cost over 25 before shipping. But only if you like the style...basically the playstyle is like vertically scrolling Panzer Dragoon (only in implimentation of the shots, nothing else).
Dreamcast games:
Mars Matrix. the rest are kind of tough to find. but DO BUT IT. Great game, probably my favorite DC shooter.
The rest are probably tougher to find...so I won't mention them.
Do you have a Saturn? Great shooters for that system :)
hey thanks ALOT exodus. unfortunately i never got a saturn. 
it was either a psx, an n64, or a saturn, and i went with the psx (at the time i could only get one, not much money ). And now that i think about it, i probably should of gone with a saturn.
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| Juke Joint Jezebel 1441th Post
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hey thanks ALOT exodus. unfortunately i never got a saturn.
it was either a psx, an n64, or a saturn, and i went with the psx (at the time i could only get one, not much money ). And now that i think about it, i probably should of gone with a saturn.
Any time!!
It's never too late to get a Saturn ^_^ I just bought another - a japanese white saturn for only US $40.
I want to play Internal Section, but haven't seen it anywhere. I'd really like to hear the music though...where is everyone getting this?
it's on a cd that Hagen has. (magic cd! fell from the sky!) i'll gladly share the music if you've got some chat program we can use to get in touch, exodus, or anyone else at that. share the wealth, i say!
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oh yeah, here's my contacts
http://www.dangerz.net/~jjj/author.html
ohhh so tired .... i dislike sleeping ... i guess .. i've got  no choice
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| Hagen de Merak 322th Post
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| "Re(1):iS music" , posted Sat 1 Feb 02:28
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hey thanks ALOT exodus. unfortunately i never got a saturn.
it was either a psx, an n64, or a saturn, and i went with the psx (at the time i could only get one, not much money ). And now that i think about it, i probably should of gone with a saturn.
Any time!!
It's never too late to get a Saturn ^_^ I just bought another - a japanese white saturn for only US $40.
I want to play Internal Section, but haven't seen it anywhere. I'd really like to hear the music though...where is everyone getting this?
it's on a cd that Hagen has. (magic cd! fell from the sky!) i'll gladly share the music if you've got some chat program we can use to get in touch, exodus, or anyone else at that. share the wealth, i say!
same here, i have it on a cd , but can easily copy it to my hardrive.
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