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rid_hershel

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"Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) question" , posted Wed 22 Jan 15:23

What's the name of the Masamune and the Mastermune in the japanese games? I heard that it's something like "Grandleon" in the case of the Masamune. Which makes sense, since it isn't a katana. Thanks.

Oh, and I'm replaying CT. Ayla just ROCKS.

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Fro Boy11

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"Re(1):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Wed 22 Jan 15:28

quote:
What's the name of the Masamune and the Mastermune in the japanese games? I heard that it's something like "Grandleon" in the case of the Masamune. Which makes sense, since it isn't a katana. Thanks.

Oh, and I'm replaying CT. Ayla just ROCKS.

Ayla was OK, Frog was my best character. Well, him and Magus.

Iron D

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"Re(1):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Wed 22 Jan 15:30

quote:
What's the name of the Masamune and the Mastermune in the japanese games? I heard that it's something like "Grandleon" in the case of the Masamune. Which makes sense, since it isn't a katana. Thanks.

Oh, and I'm replaying CT. Ayla just ROCKS.

It's all about the Magus, man. Sorry about the question, I didn't even know that Masa and Master had different names in Japan.

CT...STILL one of the best RPG's out there, and a much better game than it's "sequel" Chrono Cross.

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rid_hershel

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"Re(2):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Wed 22 Jan 16:32

Call me weird but I loved CC. The story was weird and sad, the graphics were colorful and made pale any FF game, one of the best soundtracks ever, and several (but not most) of the characters were great (I loooove Steena).

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Also I liked how the handled the relations with Chrono Trigger, specially the "bad future" dissapeared, and the relation with Schala.

End of Spoiler

Better than CT? not at all, CT is one of my fav. games. Good as a game? damn yeah.

Hagen de Merak

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"Re(2):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Wed 22 Jan 21:54

quote:
What's the name of the Masamune and the Mastermune in the japanese games? I heard that it's something like "Grandleon" in the case of the Masamune. Which makes sense, since it isn't a katana. Thanks.

Oh, and I'm replaying CT. Ayla just ROCKS.

It's all about the Magus, man. Sorry about the question, I didn't even know that Masa and Master had different names in Japan.

CT...STILL one of the best RPG's out there, and a much better game than it's "sequel" Chrono Cross.

yeah, i agree, i thought CT was much better than CC, heck, i didnt even like CC.

kaepora
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Occasional Customer

"Re(1):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Wed 22 Jan 21:59

Masamune --> Granleon
Mastermune --> Grandream

Or so I've heard; my Japanese language knowledge doesn't go beyond "it exists", so any information I've heard regarding translations comes from someone else.

NARUTO

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"Re(2):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Thu 23 Jan 01:59

In fact mastermune was an good engrish acident, the real name is Grandlion because is is the name of 2 bosses: grand(who mean big in french) and lion (lion in french too) and those 2 merge and give the Grandlion boss that you can see in chrono trigger and in chrono cross if you beat dario and get the last sword.

A last this that many forget or don't now is that Chrono cross isn't the sequel of chrono trigger, in fact CC is the 3rd part of the story a real sequl was made on SNES but only on stellawiew an add on only released in japan ( a sequel to zelda a link to the past exist on this too)

so the first is chrono trigger where all start with RAVOS (yes it's an R not an L stupid bad translation)

then a game named "Radical dreamers" s outthis one is a Text RPG not animation just pics in this one a group of you heroes a boy named serge, a girl named Kid and a blue haired wizard named Magus search an ancient relic suposed to be an moster od destruction who is asleep, the Frozen Flame.....in there path they'll face the bad sorcerer Yamaneko....

Then Chrono cross that whe all know...see, when you start the 1st part of the game when you should go to viper mansion, the is 3 possible way to do it with a different character in your party : Slash (Miki US) pierre, or a blue haired wizard Guile in Us( surely Magus in Jap)
so when you meet Yamaneko with serge,kid and Magus that's just a little omage to Radical dreamer...like the music...Many thing like this where trashed in the US version because they'ved changed too many name.

Iron D

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"Re(3):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Thu 23 Jan 12:27

quote:
In fact mastermune was an good engrish acident, the real name is Grandlion because is is the name of 2 bosses: grand(who mean big in french) and lion (lion in french too) and those 2 merge and give the Grandlion boss that you can see in chrono trigger and in chrono cross if you beat dario and get the last sword.

A last this that many forget or don't now is that Chrono cross isn't the sequel of chrono trigger, in fact CC is the 3rd part of the story a real sequl was made on SNES but only on stellawiew an add on only released in japan ( a sequel to zelda a link to the past exist on this too)

so the first is chrono trigger where all start with RAVOS (yes it's an R not an L stupid bad translation)

then a game named "Radical dreamers" s outthis one is a Text RPG not animation just pics in this one a group of you heroes a boy named serge, a girl named Kid and a blue haired wizard named Magus search an ancient relic suposed to be an moster od destruction who is asleep, the Frozen Flame.....in there path they'll face the bad sorcerer Yamaneko....

Then Chrono cross that whe all know...see, when you start the 1st part of the game when you should go to viper mansion, the is 3 possible way to do it with a different character in your party : Slash (Miki US) pierre, or a blue haired wizard Guile in Us( surely Magus in Jap)
so when you meet Yamaneko with serge,kid and Magus that's just a little omage to Radical dreamer...like the music...Many thing like this where trashed in the US version because they'ved changed too many name.

First time I've ever heard about any of this (except the fact that CC was once Radical Dreamers). Where'd you hear all of this from?

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Rid Hershel

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"Re(4):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Thu 23 Jan 12:35

You can easily get the Radical Dreamers rom, but nobody translated it yet.

Didn't knew that they were so related, that's nice. And thanks for the info about the names.

sensenic
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Frequent Customer

"Re(5):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Thu 23 Jan 13:04:

quote:
You can easily get the Radical Dreamers rom, but nobody translated it yet.

Didn't knew that they were so related, that's nice. And thanks for the info about the names.

Someone's workin on a translation, according to the Chronicles page, announced up here.

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Juan

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"Re(3):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Thu 23 Jan 13:12

Ok wait wait wait. Is this Radical Dreamer's Magus the same as in Chrono Trigger Magus??

I have the game (chrono cross) but havent had a chance to beat it or play it much (its not bad at all but trigger is better!) So dont spoil too much hehe.

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a girl named Kid and a blue haired wizard named Magus search an ancient relic suposed to be an moster od destruction who is asleep, the Frozen Flame.....in there path they'll face the bad sorcerer Yamaneko....

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Kaepora
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"Re(4):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Thu 23 Jan 17:41

The main plot in Radical Dreamers revolved around breaking into Viper Manor with Kid and Magus and fighting Lynx. Chrono Cross incorporates a good amount of RD into its own story and character roster.

Chrono Cross also has an additonal nod to Radical Dreamers later in the game...

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One of the gems in the Chronopolis control room reads out some dialog involving Kid and Magus, which is taken directly from Radical Dreamers.

End of Spoiler

threesixtee
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Regular Customer

"Re(3):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Fri 24 Jan 00:48

quote:

or a blue haired wizard Guile in Us( surely Magus in Jap)

wait wait wait guile IS MAGUS? I thought that was pure speculation because of the similar flying animation and usage of black magic.

Sensenic
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Frequent Customer

"Re(4):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Fri 24 Jan 01:08

quote:

or a blue haired wizard Guile in Us( surely Magus in Jap)

wait wait wait guile IS MAGUS? I thought that was pure speculation because of the similar flying animation and usage of black magic.

BIG spoiler, don't read it Juan:

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According to the good ending, as I understood it, Serge turns out to be Janus' alter ego or whatever, just as Kid is to Schala/Sarah.

End of Spoiler

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Rid Hershel

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"Re(5):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Fri 24 Jan 02:16

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If you're saying that because of Lucca's letter, it's unclears about who is she talking about. Maybe she's talking about Guile? IIRC, if you leave Kid to die because of the poison after the first meeting with Lynx, Guile will save her. Then again, I don't remember too well that part.

End of Spoiler

Luisinan
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Regular Customer

"Re(6):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Fri 24 Jan 08:46

So if I want to play these games, what order do I play them in?

1. Chrono Trigger (SNES or PSX?)
2. ?
3. Chrono Cross (PSX)

I've play CT on the SNES but never got far.

Juan

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"Re(7):Chrono Trigger/Cross (japanese) questio" , posted Fri 24 Jan 08:51

Yeah thats the correct order, replace the question mark for radical dreamers, tho it has not been translated. Not much difference on the PSX and SNES version, just some extras and animated movies for some of the important events on the PSX version. The PSX version also has some ugly loading time when you press triangle to access the menu. Doesnt kill the game but its sort of annoying.

quote:
So if I want to play these games, what order do I play them in?

1. Chrono Trigger (SNES or PSX?)
2. ?
3. Chrono Cross (PSX)

I've play CT on the SNES but never got far.

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