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| Radish 751th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):PS2 problem,help!"
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This couldn't have come at a worse time.
It all started this morning when I was playing Vice City. All of a sudden I started getting this errors. And I don't know why. It'd freeze and say,can't read GTA Vice City DVD.
I figured,fine. Maybe it was just having a bug(the game or something).
So,I bought Kingdom Hearts today. Which I'm proud to now have.
I popped it in. And this time,my PS2 won't even read the discs! This got me pissed. And I can't find my PS2 manual,either. It now says,"Disc read error" with every game I own.
Can anyone help,thanks!
Now you know what Mikami was talking about. The PS2 line is incredibly shoddy. Mine won't boot PSX CDs unless it's on its side and reads blue PS2 CDs sporadically.
If it's under waranty, I would call Sony. My roommate's PS2 had similar troubles early in its lifespan and he had to have it replaced. Otherwise I would look for a certified repair store locally. The lens is probably off its calibration or something related.
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| talbaineric 4744th Post
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| "Re(2):PS2 problem,help!" , posted Sun 12 Jan 15:46
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This couldn't have come at a worse time.
It all started this morning when I was playing Vice City. All of a sudden I started getting this errors. And I don't know why. It'd freeze and say,can't read GTA Vice City DVD.
I figured,fine. Maybe it was just having a bug(the game or something).
So,I bought Kingdom Hearts today. Which I'm proud to now have.
I popped it in. And this time,my PS2 won't even read the discs! This got me pissed. And I can't find my PS2 manual,either. It now says,"Disc read error" with every game I own.
Can anyone help,thanks!
Now you know what Mikami was talking about. The PS2 line is incredibly shoddy. Mine won't boot PSX CDs unless it's on its side and reads blue PS2 CDs sporadically.
If it's under waranty, I would call Sony. My roommate's PS2 had similar troubles early in its lifespan and he had to have it replaced. Otherwise I would look for a certified repair store locally. The lens is probably off its calibration or something related.
Thanks for your advice Radish.
BTW,I got it to work again. I just wiped the tray(it was kind of dusty) and made sure there wasn't much dust anywhere else. Now it's playing.
And I gotta say. I'm loving Kingdom Hearts!  I'm at the part where you have to race Rikku to win over Kairi with papou fruit. I'm so glad I have this game in my collection now. Some of the best graphics I've seen yet.
Hopefully,my PS2 won't give me trouble again.
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| HazZan 942th Post
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| "Re(1):PS2 problem,help!" , posted Mon 13 Jan 04:17
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This couldn't have come at a worse time.
It all started this morning when I was playing Vice City. All of a sudden I started getting this errors. And I don't know why. It'd freeze and say,can't read GTA Vice City DVD.
I figured,fine. Maybe it was just having a bug(the game or something).
So,I bought Kingdom Hearts today. Which I'm proud to now have.
I popped it in. And this time,my PS2 won't even read the discs! This got me pissed. And I can't find my PS2 manual,either. It now says,"Disc read error" with every game I own.
Can anyone help,thanks!
This same thing happened to me, but with my Sega Dreamcast.
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| Marcel van der List
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| "Re(2):PS2 problem,help!" , posted Mon 13 Jan 08:49
Hi,
I own a Japanese PlayStation 2, model SCPH 10000 and it still, afer almost 3 years of extensive use, works perfectly. Absolutely no problems. Dual layered dvd's (Xenosaga), blue discs (Maximo), dvd's (Runabout 3), PSX discs. My PlayStation Debug Kit (DebugStation) shows much more troubles:).
Radish~Mikami did say that de PlayStation 2 was 'crappy' built, but he was not serious. Some Japanese television show let Mikami say those things as some sort of comic relief. He also said that he was pissed that Kingdom Hearts sold better than (his) Resident Evil, and that he hated Square. ALL comic relief. Too bad sites claimed his attitude was for real.
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| Mog
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| "Re(4):PS2 problem,help!" , posted Mon 13 Jan 12:40
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OYashiro: Really? I never knew that PS2's did that. Well,glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks it might be that.  Argh! How could Sony do this? Those bards!
Yeah,I've had my PS2 a year now. And it never gave me no problems til yesterday afternoon. O_O I was shocked.
*sigh* Unfortunately this problem is very common. I work at a local GameStop, and we see people come in with broken PS2's all the time. There are two main reasons why PS2's seem to stop working on their own.
If your system can read some discs (i.e. it can read blue CD's, but not DVD's), the lens is probably just dusty.
To fix this, clean the unit with a DVD cleaner, or a can of compressed air. Of the two the compressed air seems to work better, but that requires you to open up your PS2 which voids your warranty.
If it isn't reading anything, or gets stuck during load screens, you've got a much more serious problem on your hands. If this is the case, it's likely that the lens is stuck. From here you have two options.
1. Send the thing to Sony to have them fix it. I don't know exactly how much Sony is charging to fix systems now, but it isn't cheap.
2. Buy a new system.
It sucks, but that's about all you can do from here. Sony has a tendency to use sub quaility parts in just about everything they make, and subsquently, their products have one of the highest rates of failure in the electronics industry. How can they get away with this? They can because their stuff sells hand-over-fist reguardless. Don't expect to see a solid console from them as long as they continue to dominate the gaming industry.
Oh well... at least the new PS2's don't seem to be putting circular groves into discs any more.... that was cute.
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| talbaineric 4752th Post
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| "Re(5):PS2 problem,help!" , posted Mon 13 Jan 14:21
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OYashiro: Really? I never knew that PS2's did that. Well,glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks it might be that. Argh! How could Sony do this? Those bards!
Yeah,I've had my PS2 a year now. And it never gave me no problems til yesterday afternoon. O_O I was shocked.
*sigh* Unfortunately this problem is very common. I work at a local GameStop, and we see people come in with broken PS2's all the time. There are two main reasons why PS2's seem to stop working on their own.
If your system can read some discs (i.e. it can read blue CD's, but not DVD's), the lens is probably just dusty.
To fix this, clean the unit with a DVD cleaner, or a can of compressed air. Of the two the compressed air seems to work better, but that requires you to open up your PS2 which voids your warranty.
If it isn't reading anything, or gets stuck during load screens, you've got a much more serious problem on your hands. If this is the case, it's likely that the lens is stuck. From here you have two options.
1. Send the thing to Sony to have them fix it. I don't know exactly how much Sony is charging to fix systems now, but it isn't cheap.
2. Buy a new system.
It sucks, but that's about all you can do from here. Sony has a tendency to use sub quaility parts in just about everything they make, and subsquently, their products have one of the highest rates of failure in the electronics industry. How can they get away with this? They can because their stuff sells hand-over-fist reguardless. Don't expect to see a solid console from them as long as they continue to dominate the gaming industry.
Oh well... at least the new PS2's don't seem to be putting circular groves into discs any more.... that was cute.
Thanks for the info dude.
Well,*sighs* I'll know for sure if it is serious when I go exchange my game. ARGH! And it had this stupid seal that if it's broken,you can't exchange it. They'd better! Those bards at EB.
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| Mog
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| "Re(6):PS2 problem,help!" , posted Mon 13 Jan 18:12
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Well,*sighs* I'll know for sure if it is serious when I go exchange my game. ARGH! And it had this stupid seal that if it's broken,you can't exchange it. They'd better! Those bards at EB.
EB allowed you to return games with broken seals last I knew. Granted, I haven't worked there for 2 years now, but I wouldn't think that they would change something like that.
As for my last post, I forgot to add something. Only open up your system as a last resort. Last I heard, Sony will not repair a system with a broken seal, so be careful. There might have been some from my last post, so I just wanted to clear that up.
Also, I don't know if the "flip the system over and put something heavy on it" trick works with the PS2, so that might be worth a shot.
As far as getting the system fixed goes, Sony doesn't make the internal components avaliable to the public meaning that they are the only ones who can fix systems if some of the parts need replacing.
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| OYashiroForever
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| "Re(7):PS2 problem,help!" , posted Tue 14 Jan 11:42
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EB allowed you to return games with broken seals last I knew. Granted, I haven't worked there for 2 years now, but I wouldn't think that they would change something like that.
As for my last post, I forgot to add something. Only open up your system as a last resort. Last I heard, Sony will not repair a system with a broken seal, so be careful. There might have been some from my last post, so I just wanted to clear that up.
Also, I don't know if the "flip the system over and put something heavy on it" trick works with the PS2, so that might be worth a shot.
As far as getting the system fixed goes, Sony doesn't make the internal components avaliable to the public meaning that they are the only ones who can fix systems if some of the parts need replacing.
Couple things:
1) I worked at EB for many years (too many) when I was young and foolish and let me assure you that nothing is too low for the horrible home office people there. What's more, ever since the founder Mr. Firestone stepped down as CEO and some asshat replaced him, it's gotten even worse. For example, they have completely changed their return policy in the last couple of years. You can now only exchange defective items for the same thing and they only accept returns sealed (like most stores). Obviously, as with all stupid EB policies, there are ways of working around it (I'm still friendly with the majority of the local stores' management, so they kind of ignore the more ridiculous rules).
2) The flip the system trick doesn't work on PS2s due to the position and placement of the lens. (Worked just great on PS1s and DCs, though... got an extra year out of both systems that way) :)
3) Sony's components are actually quite good. Their video and audio equipment are top notch for the price and their components are almost always rated "best buys" by unbiased trade magazines. The Playstation brand is the only shoddily made item (though I'd have to say the PSOne actually looks pretty good on the inside).
4) If you look around, there's tons of places that carry replacement parts for PSXs and DCs (lenses in particular).
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| talbaineric 4756th Post
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| "Re(8):PS2 problem,help!" , posted Tue 14 Jan 15:04
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EB allowed you to return games with broken seals last I knew. Granted, I haven't worked there for 2 years now, but I wouldn't think that they would change something like that.
As for my last post, I forgot to add something. Only open up your system as a last resort. Last I heard, Sony will not repair a system with a broken seal, so be careful. There might have been some from my last post, so I just wanted to clear that up.
Also, I don't know if the "flip the system over and put something heavy on it" trick works with the PS2, so that might be worth a shot.
As far as getting the system fixed goes, Sony doesn't make the internal components avaliable to the public meaning that they are the only ones who can fix systems if some of the parts need replacing.
Couple things:
1) I worked at EB for many years (too many) when I was young and foolish and let me assure you that nothing is too low for the horrible home office people there. What's more, ever since the founder Mr. Firestone stepped down as CEO and some asshat replaced him, it's gotten even worse. For example, they have completely changed their return policy in the last couple of years. You can now only exchange defective items for the same thing and they only accept returns sealed (like most stores). Obviously, as with all stupid EB policies, there are ways of working around it (I'm still friendly with the majority of the local stores' management, so they kind of ignore the more ridiculous rules).
2) The flip the system trick doesn't work on PS2s due to the position and placement of the lens. (Worked just great on PS1s and DCs, though... got an extra year out of both systems that way) :)
3) Sony's components are actually quite good. Their video and audio equipment are top notch for the price and their components are almost always rated "best buys" by unbiased trade magazines. The Playstation brand is the only shoddily made item (though I'd have to say the PSOne actually looks pretty good on the inside).
4) If you look around, there's tons of places that carry replacement parts for PSXs and DCs (lenses in particular).
I know! WTF is up with that crap about EB?! Those bards! I'd make a better CEO then that guy. (yeah right  )
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| suichi
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| "Re(9):PS2 problem,help!" , posted Tue 14 Jan 15:32
Sorry Eric, but you've started to find out about the problem with PS2s. I have a few friends in the game buisness and a full 50% of the PS2s they sell come back for warranty repairs or returns within the first three months. The PS2 just isn't a good piece of hardware.
First of all DO NOT play DVDs in your PS2. The motor that is inside the disk tray is meant to spin and rest as the lens reads the CD. It spins up, reads, you play the game with the cached data while it spins down and then rests in standby. When you play a DVD, it has to spin up faster and stay that way for a long time while you watch the DVD. Thusly, the motor tends to burn out much much faster.
Secondly, don't turn your PS2 upright tower style. It may help for a PS2 that's already got some problems, but you're asking for trouble if you do it because it looks cool or saves space. The PS2 wasn't designed with the heat issues in mind for the upright position. When you turn it upright, it blocks some of the venting and your PS2 will overheat much quicker. Besides that, you can also experience some problems with the balancer on the disk motor as well.
I really like the PS2 a lot, and I am just itching to get my hands on Kingdom Hearts and Smackdown 4 as well as the upcoming .Hack . There's no real bias in my opinion towards the PS2, it's just not a good piece of harware. Sony makes great electronics in general, but the Sony Console division is an exeption to that rule.
It's a cool system, just be aware with the issues that it has so your system'll last longer.
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| talbaineric 4757th Post
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| "Suichi" , posted Tue 14 Jan 15:43
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Sorry Eric, but you've started to find out about the problem with PS2s. I have a few friends in the game buisness and a full 50% of the PS2s they sell come back for warranty repairs or returns within the first three months. The PS2 just isn't a good piece of hardware.
First of all DO NOT play DVDs in your PS2. The motor that is inside the disk tray is meant to spin and rest as the lens reads the CD. It spins up, reads, you play the game with the cached data while it spins down and then rests in standby. When you play a DVD, it has to spin up faster and stay that way for a long time while you watch the DVD. Thusly, the motor tends to burn out much much faster.
Secondly, don't turn your PS2 upright tower style. It may help for a PS2 that's already got some problems, but you're asking for trouble if you do it because it looks cool or saves space. The PS2 wasn't designed with the heat issues in mind for the upright position. When you turn it upright, it blocks some of the venting and your PS2 will overheat much quicker. Besides that, you can also experience some problems with the balancer on the disk motor as well.
I really like the PS2 a lot, and I am just itching to get my hands on Kingdom Hearts and Smackdown 4 as well as the upcoming .Hack . There's no real bias in my opinion towards the PS2, it's just not a good piece of harware. Sony makes great electronics in general, but the Sony Console division is an exeption to that rule.
It's a cool system, just be aware with the issues that it has so your system'll last longer.
--Suichi
Cool! Thanks for the pointers.
I haven't played a DVD on my PS2 for a while now. But now I won't. I'll just use my DVD player in my PC from now on. But I have played DVD's on it before.
Thanks for telling me.
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| Mog
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| "Re(8):PS2 problem,help!" , posted Tue 14 Jan 18:08
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Obviously, as with all stupid EB policies, there are ways of working around it (I'm still friendly with the majority of the local stores' management, so they kind of ignore the more ridiculous rules).
If the people working there are good, then it wasn't foolish to work there. A big part of the reason I have continued to work at my store is that I really like both my co-workers and many of the regular customers. The scary regulars... not so much, but at least they make great stories when all is said and done.
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3) Sony's components are actually quite good. Their video and audio equipment are top notch for the price and their components are almost always rated "best buys" by unbiased trade magazines. The Playstation brand is the only shoddily made item (though I'd have to say the PSOne actually looks pretty good on the inside).
I should elaborate on that. The quality of the output from most Sony electronics is excellent. However, it's been my experience that they sacrifice durability to achieve this making many of their products notoriously fragile, my Trinitron monitor being a good example. The PSOnes do seem to be rather solid though.
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4) If you look around, there's tons of places that carry replacement parts for PSXs and DCs (lenses in particular).
Ah, I assumed too much there (shouldn't do that). I know that Sony doesn't like outside companies doing PS2 repair work (in part to insure that the repairs meet their standards), and thought that they controlled that by not releasing the parts to the public.
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| OYashiroForever
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| "Re(9):PS2 problem,help!" , posted Tue 14 Jan 20:33:
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If the people working there are good, then it wasn't foolish to work there. A big part of the reason I have continued to work at my store is that I really like both my co-workers and many of the regular customers. The scary regulars... not so much, but at least they make great stories when all is said and done.
Allow me to elaborate. I worked for EB for nearly 5 years because I worked with/hired competent employees with intelligence and taste and was fortunate enough to have a handful of regulars who were similarly endowed. We were successful (Sales improved 10+% every year, always led the district in pre-sells on big titles even though we were a relatively small store) because we did things differently than what the home office asked. We demoed import revs of upcoming games for customers, we held tournaments (non-profit) for games on release dates, and did MANY other things that promoted great customer service and earned us some very devoted regulars but probably would've gotten us fired if the home office ever found out.
Any company that big becomes impersonal and hires a ton of people who don't give a damn about the product. It's a shame, really. Whenever people bitch about the incompetency of EB employees, I just have to laugh. It's a horrible company with a money-grubbing corporate structure and some of the most inept middle management I've ever seen. At the end of the day, though, it was probably the best job I've had so far. I could ramble on about it all day, but I've already wasted enough bandwidth. If you ever wanna trade EB war stories, AIM me at "Zangulus100Proof".
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I should elaborate on that. The quality of the output from most Sony electronics is excellent. However, it's been my experience that they sacrifice durability to achieve this making many of their products notoriously fragile, my Trinitron monitor being a good example. The PSOnes do seem to be rather solid though.
Well, myself and my friends (some of whom refuse to buy anything but Sony stuff) have never had any trouble with Sony components. Then again, that's just been our personal experience.
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