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Rugalbernstein

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"Blasted Capture Cards!!" , posted Thu 9 Jan 22:34

Allright, I shelled out and bought one, and I'm having the same problem we've had so many times with Yak's; it just refuses to acknowledge video signals from certain sources ( I.E., 90% of game systems. )

Just what's the deal? I'm going to call the help line tomorrow evening and see if they can sort this out, but I just figured I'd give it a shot here, and see if ANYBODY has any clue as to why this is the case, and what I could do to fix/bypass it.

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chainsawyak
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New Customer

"Re(1):Blasted Capture Cards!!" , posted Thu 9 Jan 22:55

quote:
Allright, I shelled out and bought one, and I'm having the same problem we've had so many times with Yak's; it just refuses to acknowledge video signals from certain sources ( I.E., 90% of game systems. )

Just what's the deal? I'm going to call the help line tomorrow evening and see if they can sort this out, but I just figured I'd give it a shot here, and see if ANYBODY has any clue as to why this is the case, and what I could do to fix/bypass it.

I'm gonna go make a barf pie right now.

.hive balur network.

"Welcome to this shallow nation join us for a narrow mind."

exodus

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New Red Carpet Member

"Re(1):Blasted Capture Cards!!" , posted Fri 10 Jan 01:26

no idea man. mine always works...are you just using the composite inputs?

Marcel van der List
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Rare Customer

"Re(1):Blasted Capture Cards!!" , posted Fri 10 Jan 03:35

Hi,

what kind of capture card do you have and use. Does the manifacturer have a website?

'into the wonderful'

Rugalbernstein

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"Re(2):Blasted Capture Cards!!" , posted Fri 10 Jan 10:42

quote:
no idea man. mine always works...are you just using the composite inputs?

Yes. It's a " Dazzle Digital Video Creator 80 " . It DOES capture from a VCR and the T.v. now, but I can't get it to capture anything else. >_<

Rugalbernstein

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"Re(3):Blasted Capture Cards!!" , posted Fri 10 Jan 23:43

Boy, what a waste of effort. Tried the free helpline, was put on hold for more than 45 minutes... twice. I'm going to try the " gold " help line tomorrow; it costs money, but there's supposedly " no wait! " Arrgh...

If I can't get this to work, I'm just going to give up. I suppose I could always record play to a videotape and THEN capture it ( it has no problems capturing from a video ) but then the quality will really suck, most likely...

Gen

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Red Carpet Premium Member+

"damn tech support" , posted Sat 11 Jan 00:16

quote:
Boy, what a waste of effort. Tried the free helpline, was put on hold for more than 45 minutes... twice. I'm going to try the " gold " help line tomorrow; it costs money, but there's supposedly " no wait! " Arrgh...

Sounds like www.dell.com
My last computer I bought from dell. I will never buy another P.C. from them because I don't want to take a day off and listen to their hold message all day every time I need tech support. That, plus I'm going to get an AMD next time, which dell doesn't sell because they are in cahoots with intel.

This is what happens when calling dell.
One hour on hold.
Get someone on phone. They transfer me to another department instead of fixing the problem.
One hour on hold.
Get someone on phone. They transfer me to another department instead of fixing the problem.
One hour on hold.
Get someone on phone. They transfer me to another department instead of fixing the problem.
One hour on hold.
Get someone on phone. They transfer me to a department I've already talked to instead of fixing the problem.
One hour on hold.
Get someone on phone. I tell them not to transfer me to another department and I tell them all the people I've talked to already and what was said. I tell them the details. They transfer me to another department I have already talked to instead of fixing the problem.
etc.

Hagen de Merak

265th Post

Copper Customer

"Re(1):Blasted Capture Cards!!" , posted Sat 11 Jan 00:35

quote:
Allright, I shelled out and bought one, and I'm having the same problem we've had so many times with Yak's; it just refuses to acknowledge video signals from certain sources ( I.E., 90% of game systems. )

Just what's the deal? I'm going to call the help line tomorrow evening and see if they can sort this out, but I just figured I'd give it a shot here, and see if ANYBODY has any clue as to why this is the case, and what I could do to fix/bypass it.

Juke Joint Jezebel

1342th Post

Red Carpet Executive Member

"YOU'RE WRONG!!" , posted Sat 11 Jan 10:27

quote:
Boy, what a waste of effort. Tried the free helpline, was put on hold for more than 45 minutes... twice. I'm going to try the " gold " help line tomorrow; it costs money, but there's supposedly " no wait! " Arrgh...

Sounds like www.dell.com
My last computer I bought from dell. I will never buy another P.C. from them because I don't want to take a day off and listen to their hold message all day every time I need tech support. That, plus I'm going to get an AMD next time, which dell doesn't sell because they are in cahoots with intel.

This is what happens when calling dell.
One hour on hold.
Get someone on phone. They transfer me to another department instead of fixing the problem.
One hour on hold.
Get someone on phone. They transfer me to another department instead of fixing the problem.
One hour on hold.
Get someone on phone. They transfer me to another department instead of fixing the problem.
One hour on hold.
Get someone on phone. They transfer me to a department I've already talked to instead of fixing the problem.
One hour on hold.
Get someone on phone. I tell them not to transfer me to another department and I tell them all the people I've talked to already and what was said. I tell them the details. They transfer me to another department I have already talked to instead of fixing the problem.
etc.

according to the commercials, simply call them up and within 20 seconds all of your problems (and then some) have been cured!!

which brings me to another point ... if you're gonna buy something from tigerdirect, don't expect to get any help later on. i spent literally 20+ hours (either on hold or talking to some jackass they pulled off the street) on the phone that week. it didn't get much accomplished .. and i still lost all of my precious files on that computer T_T precious

RugalBernstein

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"Exodus.." , posted Sat 11 Jan 10:42

Allright, what sort of card do you have? -_-

I CAN capture with this thing after all, but it's a pain in the ass, and I'm going to have to buy another VCR to do it. -_-

Radish

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Red Carpet Regular Member+

"Re(1):Exodus.." , posted Sat 11 Jan 11:05:

quote:
Allright, what sort of card do you have? -_-

I CAN capture with this thing after all, but it's a pain in the ass, and I'm going to have to buy another VCR to do it. -_-

I use the ATI Video wonder card and have had no trouble capturing anyting be it VCR, TV or game system, although it comes with NO compression tools whatsoever so the file sizes are huge. You could fix that with some downloadable codec, but I never got around to dealing with it.

On the topic of useless support, my dial up service is pissing me off. About two weeks ago I suddenly couldn't get to my college website in order to check mail, news, etc. My college's network is pretty shitty so I thought it was down. However one of my friends IMed me and said he could connect fine. I checked at the local library and sure enough it was fine. So I called up the tech support and...

Me: Hello, I can't seem to get to a few sites on the Internet.
Guy: Ok, have you tried [stuff I knew wasn't the problem].
Me: Um, yeah.
Guy: I can't get to them either. Are you sure they work.
Me: They work at every other connection I've tried.
Guy: Uh, try setting up a DNS using [IP address]
Me: Ok, thanks.

Doesn't work. I call back.

Me: Hi. I just called and someone told me to set up my connection to you DNS.
Other guy: Ok. Try THESE numbers.
Me: Uh, sure.

Doesn't work. I figure out that all sites I can't get to are 199.x.x.x IP addresses. I call back.

Me: Hi. I've called a couple times and I can't get to a couple sites. They all have a 199 IP address.
Guy: Um, have you tried...
Me: Yes.
Guy: Ok, let me write a ticket and the tech guys will look into it...
Me: Ok.

Two days later...

Me: Hi, I was wondering if you had any idea what was wrong.
Lady: The tech guys said that you might be behind a firewall.
Me: I have dial up. I have no firewall.
Lady: Are you sure.
Me: I think I'd know if I had a firewall (note: I didn't sound this snotty)
Lady: Ok, they also said to erase your map files. He's how [instructions]
Me: Ok I'll try that. Thanks.

Doesn't work. At this point, I know the problem is on their end and am just calling out of hope of them realizing it too and fixing the problem.

Me: Hi! Smae problem!
Guy: Uh... Have you tried [stuff that lady said]
Me: Yep.
Guy: Wow. Haven't heard of this problem before. One sec.
[HOLD]
Guy: Uh hi. Yeah, apparently some of the guys at the parent company might be blocking some site. You should email them since we can't do anything. Here's that address...
Me: Ok thanks!

Thinking I had gotten somewhere I emailed the abuse email about the problem. Two weeks later 199 IPs still don't work.

[this message was edited by Radish on Sat 11 Jan 11:16]

Rugalbernstein

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"Re(2):Exodus.." , posted Sat 11 Jan 17:29

Yeah. I'm just going to record stuff to video, and then capture that. Well, still, at least I can get it done now.

exodus

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New Red Carpet Member

"Re(3):Exodus.." , posted Sat 11 Jan 21:38

quote:
Yeah. I'm just going to record stuff to video, and then capture that. Well, still, at least I can get it done now.

I've done that...it turns out ok.

I have an ATI rage fury pro...it's had very few problems, which turned into none once I goet windows 2000.

RugalBernstein

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"Okay, fuck." , posted Mon 13 Jan 15:24:

Well, now, it captures from regular video tapes, but if I record footage of a game and try and record THAT, guess what? No dice! Just what in God's name is going on???? Video games MUST be transmitted in some bizarre form... doesn't anybody know anything about video signals, and if so, is there some sort of converter I could buy to fix this problem? I tried the help line, and they were complete idiots...

Update: Got it to " capture " from ONE tape, but it's essentially a still photo with sound. Still no problems with any other tapes I've tried ( even tapes of things I've recorded off T.V., just to see if it was a " recording " issue )

[this message was edited by RugalBernstein on Mon 13 Jan 15:39]

RugalBernstein

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"Exodus, again.." , posted Mon 13 Jan 18:55

I did a bit of checking up, and that " ATI Rage Fury Pro " .. it's a video card? Do you have the " T.V. tuner " , as well, or something?

Radish

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Red Carpet Regular Member+

"Re(1):Exodus, again.." , posted Mon 13 Jan 18:57

quote:
I did a bit of checking up, and that " ATI Rage Fury Pro " .. it's a video card? Do you have the " T.V. tuner " , as well, or something?

I still swear by the ATI-all-in-wonder card. It's a PCI card so you don't have to replace your main video card and it only costs about $40.

Rugalbernstein

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"Re(2):Exodus, again.." , posted Mon 13 Jan 19:51

quote:
I still swear by the ATI-all-in-wonder card. It's a PCI card so you don't have to replace your main video card and it only costs about $40.

Does it do captures, and would you happen to know its frame rate tolerance? I'm pretty sure I've figured out the problem; it's the frame rate. As previously mentioned, it won't capture from the tape, either... but if I " fast forward " or " rewind " the tape, I can capture fine ( the resulting movie isn't really worth viewing, though, and the program stinks and won't let me convert it to an mpeg )

Radish

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Red Carpet Regular Member+

"Re(3):Exodus, again.." , posted Mon 13 Jan 20:09

quote:
I still swear by the ATI-all-in-wonder card. It's a PCI card so you don't have to replace your main video card and it only costs about $40.

Does it do captures, and would you happen to know its frame rate tolerance? I'm pretty sure I've figured out the problem; it's the frame rate. As previously mentioned, it won't capture from the tape, either... but if I " fast forward " or " rewind " the tape, I can capture fine ( the resulting movie isn't really worth viewing, though, and the program stinks and won't let me convert it to an mpeg )

I really can't say what the tolerance is, but I've had no problems capturing any kind of input into either image or movie files. That includes TV, VCR and consoles including my SNES, Dreamcast, PSX and PS2.

RugalBernstein

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"Re(4):Exodus, again.." , posted Mon 13 Jan 21:18

And that's the " ATI All in Wonder " card, eh? Thanks a lot, Radish, I'll definately look in to that.

Rugalbernstein

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"One last question, Radish..." , posted Mon 13 Jan 21:33

Which sort of " all-in-wonder " card is it? I see several types...

Radish

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Red Carpet Regular Member+

"Re(1):One last question, Radish..." , posted Tue 14 Jan 06:19

quote:
Which sort of " all-in-wonder " card is it? I see several types...

Link Here

I had the name a little off, but this is the card I have.

Rugalbernstein

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"Re(2):One last question, Radish..." , posted Tue 14 Jan 17:47

Thank you. I'll shortly know if this one works, too ( downloading Windows XP drivers..)

RugalBernstein

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"Compression!" , posted Tue 14 Jan 19:53:

SUCCESS!!! Now... Ha ha ha ha ha, does anybody know a decent compression utility, so I don't have a bunch of 120 meg movies floating around? -_-

[this message was edited by RugalBernstein on Tue 14 Jan 19:55]

Radish

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Red Carpet Regular Member+

"Re(1):Compression!" , posted Tue 14 Jan 20:30

quote:
SUCCESS!!! Now... Ha ha ha ha ha, does anybody know a decent compression utility, so I don't have a bunch of 120 meg movies floating around? -_-

Yay! Did the ATi work for you?

(I would also like to know a decent free compression tool as well. Divx costs money for the full utility...)

RugalBernstein

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"Re(2):Compression!" , posted Tue 14 Jan 21:36

Yep. First vid is of Soukyuugurentai. More to come. I know I won't get many answers here, but are there any games people here would like to see? There are plenty at my disposal, here. ^_^