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| Alucard
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|  "My opinion about 2k2"
, posted Thu 12 Dec 15:38
I know this post will create a polemic (if this word exists in english), but I've done it.
I've played the rom (without sound).
Why ? because I won't have a single chance to play it in arcades or on a console.
And I was a bit disappointed. I won't speak about music, because I didn't have it, but for the rest...
Graphics : for the characters, nothing new. Okay, there is a new sprite for Athena (nice, but not breaking), and new stands for Vice, Mature, and Orochi Team. But the stages... Awful ! The have no colors ! No identity (looks like CVS2 stages... It's Netherlands century). And the cameos.. looks like animated gifs !! disappointing indeed.
Play : same as even... I didn't try HSDM, but I think it's the only new moves we have.
Characters: I won't speak again about Shingo or King (Shingo is confrmed not to be in this year ?), but why Rugal ? And why is he so exagerated ? Does Playmore/Eolith think they simply had to serve a one more version of this triple dead boss, with some new moves that hide a lack of inspiration ?
Pre-fight animations : where is the one for Kyo/Iori ???
One good point : the COM selection ; reminds me of Fatal Fury of SF3ts (good idea indeed... There is always one team you hate to fight).
I didn't have the time to see an ending, but for what I've been told, there is just an overall one ???
After 2k1, MS4 & 2k2, I have one thing to say : please, Playmore/Eolith, stop it. You seem not to be made for making SNK games.
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| Rid Hershel 4189th Post
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| "Re(1):My opinion about 2k2" , posted Thu 12 Dec 15:46
What did you expected with the graphics, really? it's an OLD system, pixelated and with colors limited... you can expect it to look like GGX or SF3...
It's a dream match, AKA "laziness edition" like Rugal pointed. Easy to program, and with enough hype to be famous among the fans, so it's easy money.
And the soundtrack suffers from the same (haven't played it, there aren't arcades with it near here, and I consider the rom not ethic for now, but I listened to the soundtrack), looks like they took some old stuff, made bad arrangements and threw it in there.
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| Fygee 481th Post
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| "Re(2):Re(10):My opinion about 2k2" , posted Thu 12 Dec 21:24
People are being far too critical about the game. I also find that many of the people that hate it also have a deep hatred of Playmore/Eolith, meaning that it could be the greatest game since Super Mario Bros. and they'd still slit their wrists before giving it an honest chance.
I think the backrounds are awesome, if not the best I've seen in KOF yet. The amount of technical quality is at least double anything I've seen in the series, and they fit with the feel of the game very well. Still, like pretty much every KOF, they lack the aesthetic appeal that the Fatal Fury (especially 3 and Real Bout 2), Samurai Shodown, and Last Blade series offer.
My only complaint with them is that many of the characters that animate in the backround seem a little on the hyper side.
The gameplay is solid, and new combo max feature is great, if you know how to use it. Otherwise it'll just seem like KOF 2001 without strikers gameplaywise. The HDSM's I find don't make that big of a difference overall as many of them aren't all that useful either to low damage, high lag, or both. Regardless, its still as fun as its ever been.
The character selection is good overall, but like pretty much everyone, I'm royally
peeved that they left out King and Shingo.
The art is fantastic, but still isn't quite the level of '99 or 2K. Huge asthetic improvement over '01's weird shit.
The music is a mixed bag. Pretty much all of the old remixed tracks sound rather bad, but the new tracks are awesome. I especially dig the NESTS's theme and the select music.
I found it appropriate to have Rugal as the boss again, and there's enough changes to keep him from being a total recycle job. A new sprite job or something would've been nice though.
Overall, it gets a 9/10, because the sheer fun of it far outweighs any of its flaws.
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| iggy 1078th Post
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| "Re(1):My opinion about 2k2" , posted Fri 13 Dec 01:00
Graphics : for the characters, nothing new.
What to expect? It will be the same thing for some time again, until SvC at least.
But the stages... Awful ! The have no colors ! No identity (looks like CVS2 stages... It's Netherlands century). And the cameos.. looks like animated gifs !! disappointing indeed.
Have you seen the backgrounds of 2001? after that, everything looks beautifull.
Play : same as even... I didn't try HSDM, but I think it's the only new moves we have.
That puzzles me... What was great in KOF 98 was that much of the characters had 2 or 3 new mooves, and was a overall far better than that 97 crap... (Bali stage.... uuuh, I still have nightmares of this). I remember the moovelist in the cardrige, anoted by Shingo with many stupid drawings, saying what moove is new, was that Mature moove has this stupid name, etc. If there is just that MAX2 new moove for each character, I'll be very disapointed...
Pre-fight animations : where is the one for Kyo/Iori ???
That SUCKS. that really sucks. That was ones of the interestings parts of SNK over Capcom, that gave some more personallity to many characters, erasing it is just WRONG. If SvC is as poor as CvS in terms of prefight animation, I'm going to call my mommy.
Since the rom is out (I don't have it, so I ask to those who do) : which character don't appear AT ALL in the game (background or cameo moove like Kula's DM) ? I think Shingo, Lin, Hinako and Chizuru are nowhere to be seen... That's another reason for not buying the cardrige version : since Eolith begins to add more features in each domestic port (new backgrounds, new strikers, etc) I think it's just a matter of time until they add a few new characters... And the fact some super popular characters like Chizuru or Shingo are not in the backgrounds may be a sign they prepare themselves to do it in KOF2002... (I personally would love a Juhn/Chizuru comeback, and maybe Lin but only the good 2000 version, not the crappy 2k1 version.)
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| Taa kun 382th Post
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| "Re(1):My opinion about 2k2" , posted Fri 13 Dec 13:14
For my part, I only played it today, only one credit... so what would I say...
Gameplay : the same KOF full of stranges bugs but it doesn't spoil the fun of the game (of course except against some annoying players who only use this).
My team was K9999, Ramon and Kensou, but I lost just before Rugal, Clark UABB (SDM grab) my senkyutai (Kensou's qcf K), it was kinda funny to be grabbed by the leg...
About the rumored hidden character, there's something in the staff roll of the game, in the cast to be precise : there's a ???? with a seiyuu (shame on me, I can't remember who, or I would know which existing character it may be...) and it's not the anouncer.
About Lin : they didn't put him in the game maybe (why do I want to remove the maybe) because they could't debug him...
Lin 2000 overpowered because overbugged, so let's remove the bugged attacks (not removing the bugs from the attacks...) and give him some else, so Lin 2001 overpowered because overbugged (but not the same bugs, so the usuals Lin's players will complain how weak he is compared to the previous version, then stop when they will learn the new bugged stuff)...
About Andy : it's the "Yami Abissegeri" from Real Bout, but the flames turned blue in the RBS for EX Andy...
About the "Rock" in the background, isn't he a "Burning Fight" character like Duke ?
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| CrazyMike 377th Post
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| "Re(4):My opinion about 2k2" , posted Fri 13 Dec 16:02
I finally got to play it today (full dump with sound too).
I think it is better then 98. I like the cast better, the backgrounds are superior to 98's gaudy, uninspiring ones. More animation. I like the music better for some reason too, maybe its because Kim's FF2 theme is back. Gameplay, I'm no expert at fighters since I never get to play other people, just the CPU, but I think its great, quick and fun. All in all, its a good game, but not great, as its still nothing revolutionary from past KOF's, but more refined and polished then 01, and definitely better then 00 and 99. However 96 still remains my favorite ^_^
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| Alucard
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| "Re(6):Re(10):My opinion about 2k2" , posted Fri 13 Dec 20:00
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Garou stage in '95 has windmills, but it's in Greece.
Ah, this is what I was thinking of. When he said " windmills " , I remembered their '95 stage.. I didn't remember what country it was supposed to be, though.
As far as I know, CSV2 is the first one to take place in Holland. And then 2k2... Holland seems to attract japanese games developpers this year ^_^
Not enough brainstorming, guys, you know there a lot more of countries you've never used : Kazaksthan, Belgium, Lichtenstein...
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| RugalBernstein 3069th Post
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| "Re(7):Re(10):My opinion about 2k2" , posted Fri 13 Dec 20:11
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Not enough brainstorming, guys, you know there a lot more of countries you've never used : Kazaksthan, Belgium, Lichtenstein...
Personally, I wish they'd stop with all the " random stages " nonsense and go back to having character or team specific stages. And hey, lay off the Japanese game-makers, here, people. ^_^ You like their games, right? That's what counts. Too much " PCness " gets very annoying sometimes.
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| JJWE
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| "Re(6):My opinion about 2k2" , posted Sat 14 Dec 07:42:
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sorry if this is old news, but did Angel get a new voice actress? I dunno, I can't get out of my head how much she sounds like Shintani Mayumi now, what with all the 'nya's and whatnot, hell, she even says itadaki-mammoth . . . mmm, or maybe I've just been watching too much flcl.
Actually, I checked that out, as I too found that she sounded uncannily much like Haruko. And lo' and behold, it's the same seiyuu. ^_^ (whatever her name was, I can't be arsed to look now)
edit: Whoops, I even quoted her name. Haha. Shintani Mayumi it is. ^_^;
edit2: Previously (in 2001) it was Miina Tominaga.
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| Gojira 763th Post
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| "Re(10):My opinion about 2k2" , posted Sun 15 Dec 02:51
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There is no way it is Rock in the Mexico stage, win a fight with Terry and one of his win poses, a little boy Rock will come running up and grab his legs. Why would they have a kid Rock and an adult rock? granted its a dream match but I still think they want it to make SOME sense.
More than likely because they were too lazy to code that victory pose out for that part of stage. There's a few inconsistancies like that in the game, such as K' calling the opposing team "3 losers", though he still uses the same quote when you fight one of the NESTS team alone. ;)
Anyways, yeah, I definetely think Rock. Duke looks a lot different.
Where's a Playmore exec when you need one? :P
It's some dude cosplaying as Rock or something. Or maybe kid Rock saw him and said "when I grow up I'm gonna have clothes like that instead of this fruity orange shirt"
Obviously somebody didn't care about consistency, I mean hell look at Kim in one of the backgrounds, or is it Jae Hoon? Either way it makes no sense. Hell, Geese is in a background and he's dead. GO DREAM MATCHING!
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