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| MrWhitefolks
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|  "Re(1):Who are the characters of Deadly Allian"
, posted Sun 8 Dec 11:24
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I stopped playing Mortal Kombat games when I played the Mortal Combat Gold (Crap) but this game is lookin' sweet.
Who are the characters of Deadly Alliance?
I'm thinking of getting the game.
 MESSATSU
in all actuallity, this game is a HUGE step up from what they've been doing with mk's for the last few years. i got it, and it's helluva fun.
the game retains its chain combo system(which is sorta blah..but no biggie), a good chunk of the characters' projectiles/trademark moves are still there...and they added alot of nifty new ones as well.
but where this game shines like none other is the juggle system. hehehehehe
returning characters:
kunglao,kitana,sonya,reptile,raiden,jcage,sub,scorp,kano,shang,quanchi,cyrax,jax
new characters:
nitara,li mei,bo rai cho,kenshi,mavado,frost,drahmin,hsu hao(worst mk character EVER),blaze,and mocap
if you need any more info regarding this game, feel free to reply and ask away.
peace
MrWhitefolks
Innovating combos you havent even thought of...
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| Ishmael 353th Post
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| "Re(2):Who are the characters of Deadly Allian" , posted Sun 8 Dec 12:21
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nitara,li mei,bo rai cho,kenshi,mavado,frost,drahmin,hsu hao(worst mk character EVER),blaze,and mocap
While Hsu Hao may have a blah character design I personally think Bo Rai Cho edges him out in the worst MK character department. Man, and when you get labeled as the worst character from the MK series that's really saying something.
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| OYashiroForever
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Occasional Customer
| "Re(4):Who are the characters of Deadly Allian" , posted Sun 8 Dec 15:04
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Question. Why is this game so good? I've been hearing so much positive hype from the folks in these boards about it that I'm tempted in buying it (once I get a next gen system!). I've seen the character models for this game and I'm impressed by them.
Well, I've played it fairly extensively and found it to be fairly enjoyable. While it certainly won't keep me from playing KoF, MvC2, 3rd Strike, etc., Deadly Alliance is definitely a big step-up for MK. I think most of it has to do with the fact that the MK guys really took their time (3+ years in development, I think) with this one. All the other MKs were rushed out (though I think this one was rushed near the end to make it before the holiday season).
Anywho, couple of things I like(d) about it:
a) Styles - one of the things that I never liked about MK was that all of the characters were nearly the same (uppercut, roundhouse, sweep, etc.). The styles in this game are vastly different (apart from the pop-up property) and actually give you a reason to choose one character over another.
b) Full 3D - the half-assed 3D in MK4 was more of an aesthetic change than one that affected gameplay. In this game, 3D movement has a big effect on how you play. (not unlike in Namco games)
c) Return of old MK style - the first two games had a dark, gritty feel to them which was totally lost when the characters became goofy and the fatalities became repetitive and downright ridiculous. This one, while still goofy in places (Quan Chi's fatality reminds me of something from 3), looks and feels like the old ones.
d) Konquest Mode/Koffins - While it does get incredibly repetitive after a while, the konquest mode is a great way to learn the game's new style. It's a lot like the guided training modes in DoA or the Namco games. The koffins, while they do contain a lot of junk (pics of the old MK games? No thanks), are a fun way to open up secrets and extras.
e) Lots of characters (23, I believe?) - not bad considering there's no palette swaps.
f) They killed off Liu Kang. :) (I always hated him anyways)
Things I don't like:
a) No dash!! In a game like this, where movement is so important (since there are no jumps), not having a dash/run is a critical error. Think about what Tekken or Soul Calibur would be like without dashing or running. It ain't pretty.
b) Limited variety of moves - between the three styles, each character has about 40-50 moves/combinations. Unfortunately though, you probably won't use more than 10 of them in most fights (unlike most SF, KoF, and even Namco games which require MANY more).
c) Stiff combo system - connected to b). While there is a little freedom, the vast majority of the biggest combos are: two hits, change style, two hits, change style, couple of hits into pop-up, change style and do 3 or 4 juggle hits. Not as freeform as the old MKs (2-4, at least) or even as free as most Namco games. Gets repetitive.
d) Since the number of useful moves is limited, counters are WAY too powerful (and only certain characters have them).
e) 1 fatality per character - Kind of a petty thing, but for a game that was in development for so long, they could've at least had two fatalities per character.
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Overall, I do like the game and think it's a fun distraction (I'd say it's definitely the best MK game since 2), but like I said it won't stop me from playing KoF or SF anytime soon.
"I haven't slept for 10 days because that would be too long."
"Your denial is beneath you and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs I see through you."
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| Undead Fred
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Occasional Customer
| "Re(5):Who are the characters of Deadly Allian" , posted Sun 8 Dec 18:11:
Yeah, I got this game a couple of days ago. I like it. It is a big step up for the series. It's cool that they killed off a few of the "classic" characters- that's something new (I never liked Liu Kang anyway)! My only complaints are these: I miss having the run button (or any sort of run... that would have been nice), combos are too stiff, and the fatalities are a bit... ehh, I don't know. Otherwise, I was impressed with the models, the new characters, and stuff like that. The game is actually fully 3D this time, instead of only just featuring 3D graphics. There's a lot of stuff to unlock, and that's always good. If the combo system was a little more user-friendly, the controls a bit better (they need a little tweaking), and the fatalities a bit more creative (some were okay, while others were bad- like Quan Chi's...), then it would have been awesome.
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| DKW
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| "Another roster shakeup" , posted Sun 8 Dec 19:41
First off, if you've known me for any appreciable length of time, you know that I don't have the same massive hangups a lot of other people have. In the case of MK:DA, I'm just glad to have something new. I never bought the Tekken hype for a second (look, I don't care what anyone says, a movelist taking up a whole friggin' page is too much to learn), and I'm glad that Midway hasn't given up their "flagship" fighting game line.
I'm just a little bit concerned about the roster shakeup, however. I'm completely opposed to killing off characters just because they're "old". In many cases, the reason they stay around for so long is that people want them. For all the whining about Ryu clones and Guile clones and same 'ol same 'ol, the truth is that that's who the vast majority of players will play as, so they have to stay.
For the record, I always thought Liu Kang was a bit overhyped (crowning him the de facto winner of MK2 was really ham handed, IMHO), but killing off someone...I mean real killing, not "Scorpion killing"...is a big step, definitely not the kind of thing anyone should just do for whatever reason. Remember how they took out Scorpion and Kitana from MK3 because "there were too many ninjas" or some crap? Went over like Motaro with lead shoes.
I just don't think Midway should be tossing out popular characters, because with the current state of MK's popularity, they need all they can get.
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| OYashiroForever
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| "Re(3):Another roster shakeup" , posted Sun 8 Dec 22:41
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Then again, how permanent has death ever been in the MK series? Just look how they keep bringing Johnny Cage back from the grave...
--Chris
Or death in any Video Game series? Look at how many times Geese, Rugal, Bision, and Charlie have been brought back from the dead to be a in a new fight game. Death is just a flesh wound in a fight game...:)
"Come back here... I'll bite your legs off!"
As I recall, nothing in the "official" MK lore ever said Cage was dead (except for that goofy headstone in MK3). I thought Liu Kang getting killed off was a logical next step for the story. In a game where people are chopped in half, blown to bits, decapitated, etc. on a regular basis, some one IS going to die eventually. :)
I also thought it made an interesting introduction to MK:DA, a game that was supposed to be the re-introduction of MK's dark, gritty world.
As for the person ripping in to Tekken's 2 page movelists, I can certainly relate. I'm not a particularly big fan of Tekken either. However, I do recognize that in order for it to be as complex and diverse as SF or KoF (which has all kinds of strategies based on jump-ins, distancing, wake-up games, etc., not to mention two more buttons in SF's case), the Namco games needed to have a lot of different types of moves.
"I haven't slept for 10 days because that would be too long."
"Your denial is beneath you and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs I see through you."
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| kaepora
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| "Re(4):Another roster shakeup" , posted Sun 8 Dec 23:23:
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As I recall, nothing in the "official" MK lore ever said Cage was dead (except for that goofy headstone in MK3). I thought Liu Kang getting killed off was a logical next step for the story. In a game where people are chopped in half, blown to bits, decapitated, etc. on a regular basis, some one IS going to die eventually. :)
I also thought it made an interesting introduction to MK:DA, a game that was supposed to be the re-introduction of MK's dark, gritty world.
As for the person ripping in to Tekken's 2 page movelists, I can certainly relate. I'm not a particularly big fan of Tekken either. However, I do recognize that in order for it to be as complex and diverse as SF or KoF (which has all kinds of strategies based on jump-ins, distancing, wake-up games, etc., not to mention two more buttons in SF's case), the Namco games needed to have a lot of different types of moves.
I think one of the backstories (either for one of the characers or for the game as a whole) mentioned that Khan's Outworld Extermination Squads had killed Cage. Either way, I remember it being mentioned in the game outside the headstone.
His bio for MK Trilogy reflects this story, and his ending in that game has him go "back" to being dead. His bio in MK4 starts off with him dead, and he pleads for Raiden to give him life so Cage can help fight Shinnok. I guess he just stayed alive during MK4 and nobody thought to kill him again, so he's now officially alive again.
I sort of got the impression that Midway is prepared to get rid of both Liu Kang and Khan's empire permanently though. I mean, there really wasn't any reason for them to kill them off since the story would probably work just fine with them alive. If anything, it seems kind of cheesy (storywise) that the two champions of their respective sides were killed off so simply.
[Edit: That was an interesting mix-up with the title...]
[this message was edited by kaepora on Sun 8 Dec 23:26] |
| OYashiroForever
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| "Re(5):Another roster shakeup" , posted Mon 9 Dec 01:00
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I think one of the backstories (either for one of the characers or for the game as a whole) mentioned that Khan's Outworld Extermination Squads had killed Cage. Either way, I remember it being mentioned in the game outside the headstone.
His bio for MK Trilogy reflects this story, and his ending in that game has him go "back" to being dead. His bio in MK4 starts off with him dead, and he pleads for Raiden to give him life so Cage can help fight Shinnok. I guess he just stayed alive during MK4 and nobody thought to kill him again, so he's now officially alive again.
I stand corrected.  Yeah, now that you mention it, I seem to remember that too.
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I sort of got the impression that Midway is prepared to get rid of both Liu Kang and Khan's empire permanently though. I mean, there really wasn't any reason for them to kill them off since the story would probably work just fine with them alive. If anything, it seems kind of cheesy (storywise) that the two champions of their respective sides were killed off so simply.
Actually, I agree here too as well. For a guy who won however many tournaments, Liu Kang died a LITTLE too easily. Same with Big Mouth. A more elaborate death would've done them both justice. In the end, though, I still see killing the two of them off to be a good thing (allows the MK team to tell a fresh story).
"I haven't slept for 10 days because that would be too long."
"Your denial is beneath you and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs I see through you."
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| CrazyMax
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New Customer
| "Re(1):CAN YOU ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" , posted Tue 10 Dec 09:52
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OK here comes many question on the game:
Is it a good game??? I mean, I've played the old MK but only for 1 day or 2, I find them boring and stupid, all characters have the same moves, and when you have seen all of the Fatality you can stop playing, no fun, caharacters with a big lack of charisma and no subtility in the game.
For what I see the game have changed characters seems diffent and more variery seems to be in the game.
So can an old MK hater can like this one???
Can some one make a little characters discription, and where can see all of the cast, the pics on the official web site only shows 12 characters.
and finaly: WHO IS THE BOSSES THIS TTIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!!
Will it change the mind of an ol' 'MK Hater'? I don't think so. You're definitely gonna want this one. If you're like me and have a soft spot for the series, you'll find much love.
The game is a creative breath of fresh air, after the reek fests of Ultimate MK (3) & MK 4 & Gold. The game is just overflowing with creative backgrounds & touches. Some of the character designs are pretty strong as well.
The flip side, some of the character designs are just a waste. With the exception of one or two fatalities, they are weak, and will make you miss the ones from MK2 ( Still considered the best of the series by many ). Jumping is practically a waste, and the combos are kinda awkward & unwieldy.
With all that though, I think the game is a great restart for the franchise. Like I said, the designs for characters & backgrounds are creative and I love em. The combo system is making strides to be more of combo system, and not a typing instruction drill. I got it and thought it was well worth my time.
As far as the bosses, the game's title tells you who the bosses are. The Deadly Alliance of Shang Tsung & Quan Chi are the final bosses. With a serious pain in the @$$ monster named Moloch as the mid boss. You face Moloch, then randomly face either Quan Chi or Shang, then the other as the last battle. Then you get a text/pic & voice over ending.
"You know they have a word for people who think everyone is against them"
"Yeah perceptive!" -Woody Allen Jade Scorpion
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