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| Aku-Man
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|  "Lil help with some character developments..."
, posted Sun 8 Dec 03:56
Yo...I'm attempting to make a character based on a childhood friend of mine. She is a 1/4 Japanese, 1/4 American, 1/2 Filipino with a surly demeanor, an acid tongue yet is at base fragile and idealistic. This character is for a fighter game I've mentioned a while back (still tinkering with sprites...man, quite difficult when done from scratch lol)
The only problem is...well, I am somewhat ignorant in the cultural aspects of the Phillipines, and as such am a lil 50/50 on somethings in the current tentative story.
Stuff i need
-UNARMED fighting styles? (I know there's Ezcrima and such, but unless I can do some research on an unarmed style I'll have to stick with Shorinjii Kempo)
-Nationalism:
-any random trivia basically...
-stuff like patriotic paraphernalia
-big cultural aspects
-any other information, sucha s peoples and way of life, cities...
Well, thank you for your time. If I can find teh time, I may post a pic of the tentative design
*note: some may ask 'why don't you ask your friend'; well the reason is that she was a friend only throughout childhood who i have lost contact with through the years...the character's a bit of a spiritual homage if you will*
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| Tashoku Kisune 1464th Post
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| "Re(1):Lil help with some character developmen" , posted Sun 8 Dec 10:09
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Yo...I'm attempting to make a character based on a childhood friend of mine. She is a 1/4 Japanese, 1/4 American, 1/2 Filipino with a surly demeanor, an acid tongue yet is at base fragile and idealistic. This character is for a fighter game I've mentioned a while back (still tinkering with sprites...man, quite difficult when done from scratch lol)
The only problem is...well, I am somewhat ignorant in the cultural aspects of the Phillipines, and as such am a lil 50/50 on somethings in the current tentative story.
Stuff i need
-UNARMED fighting styles? (I know there's Ezcrima and such, but unless I can do some research on an unarmed style I'll have to stick with Shorinjii Kempo)
-Nationalism:
-any random trivia basically...
-stuff like patriotic paraphernalia
-big cultural aspects
-any other information, sucha s peoples and way of life, cities...
Well, thank you for your time. If I can find teh time, I may post a pic of the tentative design
*note: some may ask 'why don't you ask your friend'; well the reason is that she was a friend only throughout childhood who i have lost contact with through the years...the character's a bit of a spiritual homage if you will*
Awww.. that's so sweet. I don't know any of the answers because I'm really just the "illustrator" type. I do research for my own characters when I need it.. but I'm totally unfamiliar with the Phillipines. But I do the same things.. I make characters out of friends... <cackles> Some of them are funny like my friend who I turned into a pedifile... he's not really... but it was funny to tease him because in highschool he dating a girl in middle school. ^_^;
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| Undead Fred
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| "Re(1):Lil help with some character developmen" , posted Sun 8 Dec 18:31
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Yo...I'm attempting to make a character based on a childhood friend of mine. She is a 1/4 Japanese, 1/4 American, 1/2 Filipino with a surly demeanor, an acid tongue yet is at base fragile and idealistic. This character is for a fighter game I've mentioned a while back (still tinkering with sprites...man, quite difficult when done from scratch lol)
The only problem is...well, I am somewhat ignorant in the cultural aspects of the Phillipines, and as such am a lil 50/50 on somethings in the current tentative story.
Stuff i need
-UNARMED fighting styles? (I know there's Ezcrima and such, but unless I can do some research on an unarmed style I'll have to stick with Shorinjii Kempo)
-Nationalism:
-any random trivia basically...
-stuff like patriotic paraphernalia
-big cultural aspects
-any other information, sucha s peoples and way of life, cities...
Well, thank you for your time. If I can find teh time, I may post a pic of the tentative design
*note: some may ask 'why don't you ask your friend'; well the reason is that she was a friend only throughout childhood who i have lost contact with through the years...the character's a bit of a spiritual homage if you will*
I could help with character design, but... I don't know anything about the Philippines. As for fighting styles, get the new Mortal Kombat. They've got all kinds of fighting styles you don't see in other games. Ba Gua looks cool, Dragon, Pi Gua, and Eagle Claw are cool too... I'm not sure what the actual name of Dragon and Eagle are, but they look cool as hell. I know Lei from Tekken does Dragon style as one of his stances, but Sub-Zero has a whole bunch of moves. If you're talking about a fighting style specific to the Philippines, I have no idea. Anyway, give MK a try.
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| Megane
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|  "Re(1):Lil help with some character developmen"
, posted Sun 8 Dec 18:59
quote:
Yo...I'm attempting to make a character based on a childhood friend of mine. She is a 1/4 Japanese, 1/4 American, 1/2 Filipino with a surly demeanor, an acid tongue yet is at base fragile and idealistic. This character is for a fighter game I've mentioned a while back (still tinkering with sprites...man, quite difficult when done from scratch lol)
The only problem is...well, I am somewhat ignorant in the cultural aspects of the Phillipines, and as such am a lil 50/50 on somethings in the current tentative story.
Stuff i need
-UNARMED fighting styles? (I know there's Ezcrima and such, but unless I can do some research on an unarmed style I'll have to stick with Shorinjii Kempo)
-Nationalism:
-any random trivia basically...
-stuff like patriotic paraphernalia
-big cultural aspects
-any other information, sucha s peoples and way of life, cities...
Well, thank you for your time. If I can find teh time, I may post a pic of the tentative design
*note: some may ask 'why don't you ask your friend'; well the reason is that she was a friend only throughout childhood who i have lost contact with through the years...the character's a bit of a spiritual homage if you will*
Hmmmm...
Frankly, though, I don't think there are any unarmed Philippine fighting styles. There's always the unorthodox-suburb-rumble fighting style that's famous in Philippine action movies. =P
Is she supposed to be a very nationalistic character? Maybe you can tell me bits of your story and I can verify the info. :)
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| Aku-Man
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| "Re(2):Lil help with some character developmen" , posted Mon 9 Dec 01:53
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Hmmmm...
Frankly, though, I don't think there are any unarmed Philippine fighting styles. There's always the unorthodox-suburb-rumble fighting style that's famous in Philippine action movies. =P
Is she supposed to be a very nationalistic character? Maybe you can tell me bits of your story and I can verify the info. :)
Well, bits of the story eh? here's what I got so far...
Well first off she's placed in the 'aggressive rival' role as far a fighter archetypes go, akin to Yagami, Hwoarang, Vegeta, etc. The reason for this was her personal disgrace against the main character who by contrast is a bit of a sheltered scrub, yet is still better.
Starting from the very beginning, she was a very punctual and frank child with an affinity for physical activities. However she was teh product of wedlock between a Japanese/American mother and a well-meaning Filipino father. Marriage wasn't an issue between them so she eventually emigrated from her birthplace of Manila to Okinawa, developing a bit of a reverse-Oedipus complex or something against her mother.
This was repressed by her nature as an aggressive tomboy. Quite frankly, she thought the girly things were too frilly and fragile; she wanted to compete. Eventually this lead to training her training in a system of Okinawan karate and Shorinjii kempo.
As she grew, she fed her mind on thoughts of violent non-conformity; a rebel without a cause. She happened upon the true information of her father, a blue-collar worker the southeast islands. By some deus-ex-machina magical plot device I haven't sorted out yet *gotta love those* her father eventually surfaced, and in spite of broken japanese managed to win the custody case.
Finally finding the other half (and as far as she is concerned, true) of her heritage, she saw the gritty reality of an impovershed (? now, this's where info on teh Phillipines would help...:)) nation, and lived every day with appreciation. As it lay, she regularly got into fights, one with another girl who used a knife and scraped her shoulderblade with it. since tehn she has a pathological hatred of weaponry and strives to defeat such cheatery.
Since there is no future without education, her father managed to pool enough money to send her to the states, where she would be placed in custody of a second cousin.
From here she began to get a name for herself, as a girl with poor english from a ghetto nation. This inspired her to get back into a shotokan dojo, where she was from life experience inherently better than all but lacking 'discipline', so her sometime chauvanistic sensei keeps her at 'white belt with black taped ends'.
...erm, rather long winded story, sorry lol but that's all there really is no know thus far. In closing, she's a one-way, aggressive
'bad girl', simple natured and strictly idealistic to the point of stubborness. She respects the will to survive and hard work, which is why she finds North America somewhat profound. Her style consists of strength moves, hard blows, but while form is visible there's a lotta bottled up rage behind it.
I've used friend's surname, Lim, and named her after my favourite RS character, Akira (fitting that the name is androgynous)...maybe I'll post a concept sketch here in the future.
your thoughts? I know there's a lot of fighter conceptionists and fighting game fans, experts and the like here, so any opinon's welcome :)
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| Orochi Herman
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| "Re(3):Lil help with some character developmen" , posted Mon 9 Dec 08:57:
WHAT THE HECK?! Why did my quote turn into one big reply?! >_< I swear I wrote something here!
Well anyway, time to put it again...
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Hmmmm...
Frankly, though, I don't think there are any unarmed Philippine fighting styles. There's always the unorthodox-suburb-rumble fighting style that's famous in Philippine action movies. =P
What's more, Pinoys don't follow qa particular style at all, unless specifically trained. They are more of the kind of that deals with it when it's there right in front of them.
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Is she supposed to be a very nationalistic character? Maybe you can tell me bits of your story and I can verify the info. :)
She can, she may care less about her nationality(ies). Actually, The typical Pinoy is more concerned about family ties than patriotism.
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Well first off she's placed in the 'aggressive rival' role as far a fighter archetypes go, akin to Yagami, Hwoarang, Vegeta, etc. The reason for this was her personal disgrace against the main character who by contrast is a bit of a sheltered scrub, yet is still better.
Starting from the very beginning, she was a very punctual and frank child with an affinity for physical activities. However she was teh product of wedlock between a Japanese/American mother and a well-meaning Filipino father. Marriage wasn't an issue between them so she eventually emigrated from her birthplace of Manila to Okinawa, developing a bit of a reverse-Oedipus complex or something against her mother.
Odepus complex? ?_?
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Finally finding the other half (and as far as she is concerned, true) of her heritage, she saw the gritty reality of an impovershed (? now, this's where info on teh Phillipines would help...:)) nation, and lived every day with appreciation. As it lay, she regularly got into fights, one with another girl who used a knife and scraped her shoulderblade with it. since tehn she has a pathological hatred of weaponry and strives to defeat such cheatery.
An effective way for this would be situating her house in the Philippines near a squatter area. That's where most of the badguys are located, as well as a sign of poverty.
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Since there is no future without education, her father managed to pool enough money to send her to the states, where she would be placed in custody of a second cousin.
From here she began to get a name for herself, as a girl with poor english from a ghetto nation. This inspired her to get back into a shotokan dojo, where she was from life experience inherently better than all but lacking 'discipline', so her sometime chauvanistic sensei keeps her at 'white belt with black taped ends'.
Suggestion: Make her study here a little, then her parents decide to move her to the states. With her kind of personality, she should be able to be somewhat diligent above the ordinary.
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...erm, rather long winded story, sorry lol but that's all there really is no know thus far. In closing, she's a one-way, aggressive
'bad girl', simple natured and strictly idealistic to the point of stubborness. She respects the will to survive and hard work, which is why she finds North America somewhat profound. Her style consists of strength moves, hard blows, but while form is visible there's a lotta bottled up rage behind it.
I suggest disarm moves for her, as she hated weapons right? Make her seek those techniques. ;)
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| Megane
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| "Re(3):Lil help with some character developmen" , posted Mon 9 Dec 18:33
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As she grew, she fed her mind on thoughts of violent non-conformity; a rebel without a cause. She happened upon the true information of her father, a blue-collar worker the southeast islands. By some deus-ex-machina magical plot device I haven't sorted out yet *gotta love those* her father eventually surfaced, and in spite of broken japanese managed to win the custody case.
Hmmm... a blue-collar job here won't be enough for the father to buy a ticket to Japan. ^_^' Maybe he managed to save enough, and spent all of it in the case...
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Finally finding the other half (and as far as she is concerned, true) of her heritage, she saw the gritty reality of an impovershed (? now, this's where info on teh Phillipines would help...:)) nation, and lived every day with appreciation. As it lay, she regularly got into fights, one with another girl who used a knife and scraped her shoulderblade with it. since tehn she has a pathological hatred of weaponry and strives to defeat such cheatery.
I'm not sure how it would work. Putting her in the slums would solve the plenty of fighting thing, but it might conflict with her earlier financial status. Putting her in a middle-class family, however, would mean she wouldn't be seeing a lot of fights.
How about this: her father gets sick, she gets forced to work. She works part-time in a boxing gym in the suburbs (might solve the style problem too; a lot of people here likes boxing), and gets into fights with the street urchins in the alleys on the way home.
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Since there is no future without education, her father managed to pool enough money to send her to the states, where she would be placed in custody of a second cousin.
From here she began to get a name for herself, as a girl with poor english from a ghetto nation. This inspired her to get back into a shotokan dojo, where she was from life experience inherently better than all but lacking 'discipline', so her sometime chauvanistic sensei keeps her at 'white belt with black taped ends'.
...erm, rather long winded story, sorry lol but that's all there really is no know thus far. In closing, she's a one-way, aggressive
'bad girl', simple natured and strictly idealistic to the point of stubborness. She respects the will to survive and hard work, which is why she finds North America somewhat profound. Her style consists of strength moves, hard blows, but while form is visible there's a lotta bottled up rage behind it.
I've used friend's surname, Lim, and named her after my favourite RS character, Akira (fitting that the name is androgynous)...maybe I'll post a concept sketch here in the future.
your thoughts? I know there's a lot of fighter conceptionists and fighting game fans, experts and the like here, so any opinon's welcome :)
Lim's a staple surname (Although it's Chinese in its roots). But if she was born in Manila, I think the guy's parents would have a say in the first name. =/
Isn't much, but hope this helps. :)
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| Orochi Herman
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| "Re(2):Lil help with some character developmen" , posted Mon 9 Dec 20:00
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Stuff i need
-UNARMED fighting styles? (I know there's Ezcrima and such, but unless I can do some research on an unarmed style I'll have to stick with Shorinjii Kempo)
Filipino fighting styles are known mainly for stick and blade fighting. But I do believe there are some hand to hand variants of the styles. They just aren't widely stressed.
The styles available would be Kali, the supposed parent style. Then Escrima and Arnis, the spin offs, off shoots, or descendants if you will.
Not sure why the character cannot use weapons. Street Fighter has been tossing weaponed characters since Eagle, who coincendentally used sticks. So why not let them use a non lethal weapon?
There's also the balisong, or switchknife. :P Oh wait, that's a weapon, not a style. XD
Also, most unarmed combat will be like outnumbering. They'll pool more people against you.
Some people will formulate their own style though, you may want to consider that for Akira.
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| Aku-Man
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| "Thanks a lot!" , posted Mon 9 Dec 22:21
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Stuff i need
-UNARMED fighting styles? (I know there's Ezcrima and such, but unless I can do some research on an unarmed style I'll have to stick with Shorinjii Kempo)
Filipino fighting styles are known mainly for stick and blade fighting. But I do believe there are some hand to hand variants of the styles. They just aren't widely stressed.
The styles available would be Kali, the supposed parent style. Then Escrima and Arnis, the spin offs, off shoots, or descendants if you will.
Not sure why the character cannot use weapons. Street Fighter has been tossing weaponed characters since Eagle, who coincendentally used sticks. So why not let them use a non lethal weapon?
There's also the balisong, or switchknife. :P Oh wait, that's a weapon, not a style. XD
Also, most unarmed combat will be like outnumbering. They'll pool more people against you.
Some people will formulate their own style though, you may want to consider that for Akira.
Wow, finally the information's falling into place XD thanks a lot guys! Cultural notes and such are fascinating...yeah, so I'll fill up those holes. Thanks a lot; now I can continue working on the rest of the game now that my character block is gone!
Yeah, the only thing with the weapons is that since she's the rival character she would have a bit of an advantage over her antagonist with a balisong or escrima stick :) just trying to keep it simple, like all players on an even plateau.
Hmmm..alright, I guess the style shall remain, for now, an Okinawan system, but I'll encorporate the disarmements if ever teh game gets going and we develop a sequel (big dreams...) lol.
So, I guess I'll post an in-progress bio as a closing:
Akira Lim
Age: 19
Style: Okinawan Karate w/ personal modification
Nationality: (Didn't write it down) Living in the USA, representing Manila, Phillipines
Ethnicity: 1/2 Filipino, 1/4 American, 1/4 Japanese
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 133 lbs(She's built. like, Sarah Bryant huge; tight abs and biceps, but not butch; just trimmed of fat lol)
Hair: Violet
Eyes: Reddish Brown
Blood Type: AB
Likes: Rhythm games, rave music, spirited people
Dislikes: People who use weapons in 1 on 1 fights (esp. knives), Chinese Kung Fu systems (Got beat by a Wing-Chun user), superstition
Occupation: College student
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