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"Zelda info" , posted Sat 7 Dec 18:39post reply


as taken from Gamespot.com and IGN.com:
As for the game's story, The Wind Waker will offer a more cohesive presentation of the Zelda mythos. Set 100 years after the events in Ocarina of Time, the game will focus on a young boy named Link who is presented with green clothes that are tied to a legend that revolves around a hero dressed in green. One aspect of the back story to the Zelda games that hasn't been quite clear is that Link and Ganon represent the eternal struggle between good and evil. Just as Ganon represents timeless evil, Link embodies good, which explains why a hero named Link will always rise to fight Ganon. As a result, every Link seen in the various installments of the series can be considered to be a different one.
and I was woundering
Link in the first Zelda had brown hair (I think)
Link to the Past had PINK hair?!?
Ocarina Of Time had yellow!

but Ganon has different shapes? in the oracle series he was a huge pig like thing, the Ocarina of time he was the cool thife, I still wounder?

oo and here is some cool pictures, from gamespy.com:
Link
Link poster

Link sister

Link and his boat






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"Re(1):Zelda info" , posted Sat 7 Dec 18:55post reply


Maybe is like castlevania and the Belmonts. Probably every Link is a different one on the same family.

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and I was woundering
Link in the first Zelda had brown hair (I think)
Link to the Past had PINK hair?!?
Ocarina Of Time had yellow!

but Ganon has different shapes? in the oracle series he was a huge pig like thing, the Ocarina of time he was the cool thife, I still wounder?








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"Re(2):Zelda info" , posted Sat 7 Dec 21:18:post reply


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Maybe is like castlevania and the Belmonts. Probably every Link is a different one on the same family.

and I was woundering
Link in the first Zelda had brown hair (I think)
Link to the Past had PINK hair?!?
Ocarina Of Time had yellow!

but Ganon has different shapes? in the oracle series he was a huge pig like thing, the Ocarina of time he was the cool thife, I still wounder?




I just consider them to all be completely separate stories and unrelated myself (though whatever the true nature of the games is I guess is true). Except for The Legend of Zelda and The Adventure of Link, which I think The Adventure of Link is a sequel to The Legend of Zelda, and that Link's Awakening is a sequel to A Link to the Past.

And Link's hair looked pink I guess in game, but his hair was brown in illustration. He had brown hair up until OoT, when it was changed to blonde.

EDIT: Oh, and Majora's Mask is a sequel to Ocarina of Time. I don't know where the Oracle games fall except as their own games.






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"Re(3):Zelda info" , posted Sat 7 Dec 21:41post reply


quote:




I just consider them to all be completely separate stories and unrelated myself (though whatever the true nature of the games is I guess is true). Except for The Legend of Zelda and The Adventure of Link, which I think The Adventure of Link is a sequel to The Legend of Zelda, and that Link's Awakening is a sequel to A Link to the Past.

And Link's hair looked pink I guess in game, but his hair was brown in illustration. He had brown hair up until OoT, when it was changed to blonde.

EDIT: Oh, and Majora's Mask is a sequel to Ocarina of Time. I don't know where the Oracle games fall except as their own games.


I think Link's Awakening happend after the oracle cuz:


Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
in the end of the oracle series Link will sail with his boat into the sea , and in Link's awakening the game start when Link on his boat facing a storm, then he forgot everything.

End of Spoiler







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"Re(1):Zelda info" , posted Sun 8 Dec 12:11post reply


quote:
as taken from Gamespot.com and IGN.com:
As for the game's story, The Wind Waker will offer a more cohesive presentation of the Zelda mythos. Set 100 years after the events in Ocarina of Time, the game will focus on a young boy named Link who is presented with green clothes that are tied to a legend that revolves around a hero dressed in green. One aspect of the back story to the Zelda games that hasn't been quite clear is that Link and Ganon represent the eternal struggle between good and evil. Just as Ganon represents timeless evil, Link embodies good, which explains why a hero named Link will always rise to fight Ganon. As a result, every Link seen in the various installments of the series can be considered to be a different one.
and I was woundering
Link in the first Zelda had brown hair (I think)
Link to the Past had PINK hair?!?
Ocarina Of Time had yellow!

but Ganon has different shapes? in the oracle series he was a huge pig like thing, the Ocarina of time he was the cool thife, I still wounder?

oo and here is some cool pictures, from gamespy.com:
Link
Link poster

Link sister

Link and his boat



I don't have much time to comment now, so I'll simply say:

Thanks for the info!





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"Re(1):Zelda info" , posted Sun 8 Dec 13:52post reply


quote:
as taken from Gamespot.com and IGN.com:
As for the game's story, The Wind Waker will offer a more cohesive presentation of the Zelda mythos. Set 100 years after the events in Ocarina of Time, the game will focus on a young boy named Link who is presented with green clothes that are tied to a legend that revolves around a hero dressed in green. One aspect of the back story to the Zelda games that hasn't been quite clear is that Link and Ganon represent the eternal struggle between good and evil. Just as Ganon represents timeless evil, Link embodies good, which explains why a hero named Link will always rise to fight Ganon. As a result, every Link seen in the various installments of the series can be considered to be a different one.
and I was woundering
Link in the first Zelda had brown hair (I think)
Link to the Past had PINK hair?!?
Ocarina Of Time had yellow!

but Ganon has different shapes? in the oracle series he was a huge pig like thing, the Ocarina of time he was the cool thife, I still wounder?

oo and here is some cool pictures, from gamespy.com:
Link
Link poster

Link sister

Link and his boat



Is that Official??!!

I think like Hungrywolf, that, except for those mini-sagas (1 and 2, OoT and MM...) and portable versions, every Zelda was more or less a different version of the "same" story. It's impossible to link (how appropriate) them coherently. Some Zelda pages have tried and.... what could I say...

- Each Link is different, ok, but what about Zelda?
- Why is Hyrule absolutely geografically different in every game?
- Where were the supposedly ancient and wise races from the new games in the old ones (Good Zoras, Gorons...)?
etc, etc, etc Zelda CAN'T be one only coherent story.





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"My theory." , posted Sun 8 Dec 14:42:post reply


quote:
- Each Link is different, ok, but what about Zelda?


She's always the princess of the royal family. This ones's easy.
quote:

- Why is Hyrule absolutely geografically different in every game?


Because I say so. Hmmm, this doesn't sound convincing... Well, the game would be very boring if it were all the same. Besides, you have common places: Zora's lake (although not named this way always), Hyrule's castle, lost woods, a desert, the big mountains...
quote:

- Where were the supposedly ancient and wise races from the new games in the old ones (Good Zoras, Gorons...)?


Zoras are that annoying water monsters in the pre-N64 Zeldas, Gorons could be those rock-like creatures falling in the mountains in ALttP.


As you may have guessed, I think that the Zeldas have SOME continuity. Ocarina of Time happens before A Link to the Past, you can check that if you watch the intro at the beggining of ALttP. It's OoT's ending, nearly. Adventure of Link is a continuation of the first Zelda, the Oracles games happen after Majora's Mask (Link is a Kid and rides Epona in the intros), and Link's Awakening happens after them. So, the time line, in my opinion is:

1) Ocarina of Time
2) Majora's Mask
3) Oracle of Seasons/Ages
4) Oracle of Ages/Seasons
5) Link's Awakening
Until here, it's the same Link (although he has the mania of losing all his items from adventure to adventure...)
6) The Wind Waker
.
.
(I don't know how many time passes)
.
.
7) A Link to the Past

And, somewhere after The Wind Waker, and (in my opinion, since there's not many information) after A Link to the Past:

8) The Legend of Zelda
9) Link's Adventure

Of course, this is like the Street Fighter storyline: Its story is subject to change when a new episode arrives. You know, playability before history accuracy.

EDIT: Changed the title and corrected a few evil typos.





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"about your theory." , posted Sun 8 Dec 15:07post reply


most interisting hmmm...
Ocraina of time endding is LttP opening how did I miss that!!!

and why do you think the first Zelda and Links adventure are the last two episodes?


oo and about the missing races, you might think of it like this, since the frist two zelda (time mage theory ) are OoT and MM(edit and after oracle series ), then we can say that the gorons moved out of hyrule, the zoras where attacked by the sea monsters and they were forced to leave too.

and the thiefs clan are hidding until thier king who is born every 1000 years comes and lead them...Ganon.





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"Re(1):about your theory." , posted Sun 8 Dec 15:30post reply


quote:
most interisting hmmm...
Ocraina of time endding is LttP opening how did I miss that!!!

and why do you think the first Zelda and Links adventure are the last two episodes?



Well, just because OoT has to be the first (see my spoiler in the other post), and because they doesn't fit in another spot until the end. However, they could be placed after The Wind Waker, too. What's sure is that Ganon is a Pig there, so they have to be past-Ocarina. This are mere theories, though, made in my too often distractions from study.

quote:

oo and about the missing races, you might think of it like this, since the frist two zelda (time mage theory ) are OoT and MM(edit and after oracle series ), then we can say that the gorons moved out of hyrule, the zoras where attacked by the sea monsters and they were forced to leave too.

and the thiefs clan are hidding until thier king who is born every 1000 years comes and lead them...Ganon.



If they are the monsters I said (and remember, the monster that gives Link the flippers in ALttP is... The kig of Zoras!), I prefer to think that they "de-evoluted" turning into another kind of monsters.





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"Re(2):about your theory." , posted Sun 8 Dec 15:52post reply


hmm... seeing the LttP opening again, they said that a King ask his sages to seal the Evil....?
who is the King?
or is it how things change with time.





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"Re(3):about your theory." , posted Sun 8 Dec 15:58post reply


quote:
hmm... seeing the LttP opening again, they said that a King ask his sages to seal the Evil....?
who is the King?
or is it how things change with time.



Well, you can't expect it to be exact, but...

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
7 sages, sealing the evil in the golden land (that is, Ganon was sealed and corrupted it).

End of Spoiler

It fits like a glove.





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"Re(1):My theory." , posted Sun 8 Dec 18:27post reply


quote:
- Each Link is different, ok, but what about Zelda?

She's always the princess of the royal family. This ones's easy.

- Why is Hyrule absolutely geografically different in every game?

Because I say so. Hmmm, this doesn't sound convincing... Well, the game would be very boring if it were all the same. Besides, you have common places: Zora's lake (although not named this way always), Hyrule's castle, lost woods, a desert, the big mountains...

- Where were the supposedly ancient and wise races from the new games in the old ones (Good Zoras, Gorons...)?

Zoras are that annoying water monsters in the pre-N64 Zeldas, Gorons could be those rock-like creatures falling in the mountains in ALttP.


As you may have guessed, I think that the Zeldas have SOME continuity. Ocarina of Time happens before A Link to the Past, you can check that if you watch the intro at the beggining of ALttP. It's OoT's ending, nearly. Adventure of Link is a continuation of the first Zelda, the Oracles games happen after Majora's Mask (Link is a Kid and rides Epona in the intros), and Link's Awakening happens after them. So, the time line, in my opinion is:

1) Ocarina of Time
2) Majora's Mask
3) Oracle of Seasons/Ages
4) Oracle of Ages/Seasons
5) Link's Awakening
Until here, it's the same Link (although he has the mania of losing all his items from adventure to adventure...)
6) The Wind Waker
.
.
(I don't know how many time passes)
.
.
7) A Link to the Past

And, somewhere after The Wind Waker, and (in my opinion, since there's not many information) after A Link to the Past:

8) The Legend of Zelda
9) Link's Adventure

Of course, this is like the Street Fighter storyline: Its story is subject to change when a new episode arrives. You know, playability before history accuracy.

EDIT: Changed the title and corrected a few evil typos.



I don't know how you can link OoT and Link's awakening at all. I still think that MM was the sequel that takes place after OoT. And I think that Link's Awakening was a sequel to A Link to the Past and that The Adventure of Link is the sequel to The Legend of Zelda. However, if you are gonna link all the games together, The Legend of Zelda and The Adventure of Link should be # 1 and 2...






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"Re(2):My theory." , posted Sun 8 Dec 18:31:post reply


Nope they are not 1 and 2. For example, human Ganondorf happened first, then he got transformed into the pig monster Ganon.

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However, if you are gonna link all the games together, The Legend of Zelda and The Adventure of Link should be # 1 and 2...








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"Re(1):Zelda info" , posted Mon 9 Dec 03:07post reply


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who is presented with green clothes that are tied to a legend that revolves around a hero dressed in green.


That's my favorite part. The hero MUST be dressed in green, always, in every occasion, until he finds an item that changes his clothes color.
I hope that the triforce, like Subaru in Tokyo Babylon, has the mystic power of washing clothes without removing them, or else Link must really stink when he meets Zelda at the end of each game.






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"Re(2):Zelda info" , posted Mon 9 Dec 09:29post reply


Hmmm, I think the Awakening Link is also LttP Link. I'd connect the Oracle Link to the Awakening Link because of the boat thing, though it's a frail connection.



Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
In the final battle against the nightmare shadow whatzit, it took the form of Link's past enemies, which included Agahnim.

End of Spoiler



It was asserted early on by Nintendo Power before LttP's release that LttP was a prequel to the original LoZ. Mind the actual name of the game, "A Link to the Past", which pretty much clinches its chronological status.





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"Re(3):Zelda MP3's" , posted Sun 15 Dec 16:41post reply


from www.planetgamecube.com :
they have some Zelda MP3's if you are interisted :
MP3's Page!
the server is kinda slow , so you better wait a little bit.