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| Maou
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|  "Re(2):Koopa/Bowser"
, posted Sun 17 Nov 08:45
In Japan, his name is simply Koopa. If you play Super Mario World and get to the final world, his castle has Koopa flashing in lights and not Bowser as in the American versions. Acid-tripping Nintendo started their Bowser precedent way back with Super Mario Brothers, and while they corrected that AWFUL renaming of Princess Toadstool back to an actually appealing name like Princess Peach, they've yet to fix poor Koopa. Though his letter to you before you enter the Dark Kingdom in Mario 3 was signed King of the Koopa, which was kind of a good thing.
What I haven't figured out is whether this Koopa really is supposed to be his tribe of evil, or if Nintendo USA expanded his name to mean all those turtles...and I wouldn't put it past them. The so-called Koopa Troopa is merely called Noko-Noko, a funny li'l name meaning "slow and plodding." Oddly enough, those insane names for Koopa's kids are correct. I guess they died, though...??
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| TiamatRoar 301th Post
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| "Re(3):Koopa/Bowser" , posted Sun 17 Nov 11:28
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What I haven't figured out is whether this Koopa really is supposed to be his tribe of evil, or if Nintendo USA expanded his name to mean all those turtles...and I wouldn't put it past them. The so-called Koopa Troopa is merely called Noko-Noko, a funny li'l name meaning "slow and plodding." Oddly enough, those insane names for Koopa's kids are correct. I guess they died, though...??
The koopa kids die in lots of games. Or at least... they died as early as Super Mario World (though I thought they died in Super Mario 3, too, but not sure. Super Mario World was very specific with its text about them dying though). Despite that, they reappeared in several games afterwards (Yoshi's Safari, Mario is Missing, etc), though admittingly, I suppose they haven't in any 'canon' Mario games or even more serious games like the Super Mario RPG. Thing being... I'm not sure if Mario is serious enough to have a canon storyline, anyways. Or take death in its plotline seriously.
As it is, I think Nintendo just like... decided to ditch them for some reason. Too bad, because I always thought they were interesting enough Mario bosses...
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| Dr Baghead 1782th Post
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| "Re(4):Koopa/Bowser" , posted Sun 17 Nov 11:50
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The koopa kids die in lots of games. Or at least... they died as early as Super Mario World (though I thought they died in Super Mario 3, too, but not sure. Super Mario World was very specific with its text about them dying though). Despite that, they reappeared in several games afterwards (Yoshi's Safari, Mario is Missing, etc), though admittingly, I suppose they haven't in any 'canon' Mario games or even more serious games like the Super Mario RPG. Thing being... I'm not sure if Mario is serious enough to have a canon storyline, anyways. Or take death in its plotline seriously.
As it is, I think Nintendo just like... decided to ditch them for some reason. Too bad, because I always thought they were interesting enough Mario bosses...
I don't think they "died" so much as "went away" and so... (Mario Sunshine Spoiler)
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It seems Nintendo has replaced Bowser's original 7 kids with the, in my view, much lamer Baby Bowser. So while the original 7 are gone, their concept lives on.
End of Spoiler
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| Luisinan
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| "Re(8):Koopa/Bowser" , posted Sun 17 Nov 23:16
I remember I was playing Melee or Mario Kart 64 with my nephews the other day. And I kept referring to how Koopa was a cheater (one of my nephews was using Bowser and he kept winning.)
Well, my nephews were like, "Koopa? Who's Koopa?" And I was like, "Koopa troopa! King Koopa! That lil' cheat, he keeps hitting me with turtle shell missiles! I don't like him!"
To which they would say, "Oh Bowser."
Ah, tis a shame these children do not know their video game roots. Bowser is his appropriate name, but I think NoA should acknowledge his full title, "Bowser, King of the Koopas."
Koopa? Who's that? You know what I really dislike is Waluigi. Wario was cool, he sort of has a personality. But Waluigi is basically evil Luigi with no personality. Not that poor Luigi has that much personality, but still... Waluigi is just an example of NoJ not being able to think up of good villains for the Mario brothers.
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| TiamatRoar 302th Post
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| "Re(9):Koopa/Bowser" , posted Mon 18 Nov 20:10
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I remember I was playing Melee or Mario Kart 64 with my nephews the other day. And I kept referring to how Koopa was a cheater (one of my nephews was using Bowser and he kept winning.)
Well, my nephews were like, "Koopa? Who's Koopa?" And I was like, "Koopa troopa! King Koopa! That lil' cheat, he keeps hitting me with turtle shell missiles! I don't like him!"
To which they would say, "Oh Bowser."
Ah, tis a shame these children do not know their video game roots. Bowser is his appropriate name, but I think NoA should acknowledge his full title, "Bowser, King of the Koopas."
Koopa? Who's that? You know what I really dislike is Waluigi. Wario was cool, he sort of has a personality. But Waluigi is basically evil Luigi with no personality. Not that poor Luigi has that much personality, but still... Waluigi is just an example of NoJ not being able to think up of good villains for the Mario brothers.
Wasn't Waluigi only in like... one 'noncanon' (as much a canon as Mario can get) game, though? (IE, Mario Tennis, which even in Mario canon can't be that applicable, since it has baby Mario and Mario in the same game...). I agree that Wario has personality and Waluigi doesn't have any, but I imagine it's kinda hard to have a personality when you only appeared in one game with no real discernible storyline (regardless, though, Waluigi IMHO isn't nearly as cool a name as Wario. Wario is Mario with an inverted M, so you can see where it comes from. But Waluigi like... comes out of nowhere, to my knowledge...)
Oh, and... that
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is back in Mario Sunshine? But... how does that work? Chronologically, that makes about as much sense as... well, Baby Mario and Mario in the same game, doesn't it? Oo
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| Dr Baghead 1806th Post
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| "Re(10):Koopa/Bowser" , posted Mon 18 Nov 20:29
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I remember I was playing Melee or Mario Kart 64 with my nephews the other day. And I kept referring to how Koopa was a cheater (one of my nephews was using Bowser and he kept winning.)
Well, my nephews were like, "Koopa? Who's Koopa?" And I was like, "Koopa troopa! King Koopa! That lil' cheat, he keeps hitting me with turtle shell missiles! I don't like him!"
To which they would say, "Oh Bowser."
Ah, tis a shame these children do not know their video game roots. Bowser is his appropriate name, but I think NoA should acknowledge his full title, "Bowser, King of the Koopas."
Koopa? Who's that? You know what I really dislike is Waluigi. Wario was cool, he sort of has a personality. But Waluigi is basically evil Luigi with no personality. Not that poor Luigi has that much personality, but still... Waluigi is just an example of NoJ not being able to think up of good villains for the Mario brothers.
Wasn't Waluigi only in like... one 'noncanon' (as much a canon as Mario can get) game, though? (IE, Mario Tennis, which even in Mario canon can't be that applicable, since it has baby Mario and Mario in the same game...). I agree that Wario has personality and Waluigi doesn't have any, but I imagine it's kinda hard to have a personality when you only appeared in one game with no real discernible storyline (regardless, though, Waluigi IMHO isn't nearly as cool a name as Wario. Wario is Mario with an inverted M, so you can see where it comes from. But Waluigi like... comes out of nowhere, to my knowledge...)
Oh, and... that Spoiler (Highlight to view) - is back in Mario Sunshine? But... how does that work? Chronologically, that makes about as much sense as... well, Baby Mario and Mario in the same game, doesn't it? Oo
Answer to your Spoiler Tiamat:
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Baby Bowser is King Bowser's son, not the actual baby King Bowser... so I guess in a way it's like DK and DK Jr.... the former Baby/Jr is now Bowser/DK and a new Baby/Jr has appeared on the scene
End of Spoiler
And techincally I don't think there's a Mario "cannon"... and if it does Wario isn't in any cannon Mario games either (Mario Lands don't count)
Waluigi has an upside down L on his hat, the "Wa" part comes just to make it clear he's like Wario... so basically he comes out of someone deciding to Make a Luigi out of Wario parts.
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| ZamIAm 761th Post
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| "You can't handle the truth" , posted Wed 20 Nov 22:09
You want to know the truth?
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The princess enjoys royalty but despises the stuffy nature. The day that she was first kidnapped, she was scared, yet curious. Bowser's coup actually wasn't as bad as it seemed. It would bring much needed industrial zones to an area stuck in medeival technology. Slowly Peach and Bowser warmed up to each other's personalities and fell in love. She decided to lead Mario along--shout help to be brought to safety and no one knows the truth. She has no interest in Mario, a guy who overeats, destroys public property, and makes constant use of the Mushroom Kingdom's abundant drug supply. The major problem came from Luigi. It was getting odd for anybody to get kidnapped so much. She fessed up but also introduced him to Daisy. Luigi decided that if Mario is too stupid to figure out the truth then he didn't need to know. Daisy and Luigi have plans to elope when Mario is on one of his sessions of "growing higher". Peach is the illegitimate mother of all 7 Koopalings but lucked out on the fact that Koopalings are laid as eggs and do most of their growing in the eggshell (remember, reptile eggs are leather and non fragile so they do stretch to an extent). None of them know that the princess, who is oddly nice for someone who was kidnapped, is their mother and truly the Koopalings get the worst part of this bargain. Currently, Bowser has enroled them in a school in South Central LA so they can toughen up.
End of Spoiler
Why be Prince of the Forest when you can be King of the Jungle?
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