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| Radish 512th Post
 
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I like the original Star Wars movies. Not on some kind of fanatical level or anything, but I thought they were fun and interesting to watch. The new movies though, I find horribly boring. At first I thought it was a simple case of rose colored glasses looking at a nostalgic memory, but after catching the original trilogy on cable, I remember how much better they really were.
I thought about it for awhile and wondered why I didn't like the new ones at all and I reached a conclusion, that I at least think is somewhat true. The first Star Wars movies took basic plots, stuck them in a SciFi envirnment and made it fun for a mainstream audience. The new movies seem to pander to the hardcore fans more than everyone else. It's just a feeling, but they seem like high budget "fan films" with their constant Star Wars mythos references, overacting characters (big example, Anakin) and poorly explained plots. The only reason I went to the second one was because a friend wanted to go and it was only a dollar. I'm probably do the same for the next one if the trend is indicative of the quality of the series.
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| Satoshi_Miwa 1625th Post
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| "Re(7):" , posted Sun 10 Nov 16:33
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The new movies seem to pander to the hardcore fans more than everyone else. It's just a feeling, but they seem like high budget "fan films" with their constant Star Wars mythos references, overacting characters (big example, Anakin) and poorly explained plots.
The new films are mere marketing vehicles. Lucas is exploiting many a fan's dream come true just to fatten his wallet even further. Such a shame that the most brilliant concept in film storytelling ever is squandered for the sake of the almighty dollar.
I wouldn't be surprised if they released a Yoda-only video game by now.
The funny thing is that Star Wars isn't marketing at all anymore. Episode 1 got destroyed by Pokemon, and Spiderman and Yugi-oh made Ep 2 it's B**ch this year too...
Being more of a casual fan of the films (There fun Sci-Fantasy, but I don't see them being the best movies ever made..The honor for best Sci-Fi film goes to 2001 easily), I found the last film to be mostly a weak, boring effort with lots of fan dressings to make the die hards happy. But for people like me it couldn't cover up the bad acting, and bad love story...(Favorite bad line, Anakin saying to Amedila that he hates sand...:)
And the fight with Yoda is not all that. I make like Chinese Wire-fu fights, but the Star Wars light saber duels work better done as Samurai style sword duel. (Compare the Episode 2 fight to the fight in Empire...)
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| Makatiel
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| "the problem with star wars" , posted Sun 10 Nov 19:45
the problem with star wars is that it has all these fantastic ideas, but the execution of which mostly suck.
c'mon, admit it: light sabers, jedi knights, the force, darth vader's relationship to luke and leia, the millenium falcon (and other gadgets), jabba the hut (and other aliens) are COOL. yoda is cool. but dammit why do they have to make all of it suck?
consider darth maul - man that guy was cool. but he doesnt say a word and is in the movie for like 5 secs. also he spoils his coolest surprise (the dual light saber) in a stupid preview for the movie. that sucks. here's how i would have done it: no one knows hes got this dual saber (its not spoiled in the preview). hes fighting with obiwan and qui gon (sp?) and qui gons got him in like a bear hug or something (in any case, standing behind him). then suddenly darth maul presses a button on his light saber and the second blade pops out from the back, spearing qui gon and killing him. that should have been how you see his dual ls thingee. not just seeing him use it in the preview.
yodas fight was okay, but in too many ways, it sucked too. it was short and silly, with him flipping around and crap. instead, he should have been weilding the light saber without using his hands, having it levitate in the air and stuff and attack by itself (while he directs it - like telekinesis). in fact he should have had 2 or 3 or 4 light sabers going crazy like a big spinning ball of light saber death. that would have been cool.
all in all, even though ep 2 sucked, we all have to admit - there were cool scenes in it (like when obi wan just catches anakins light saber while hes driving). it just seems that for ideas with such fantastic potential, they deserve much better. i wish lucas would give up the rights to his stuff and give it to someone with real talent. cause, in the right hands, star wars could be sooooooo good.
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