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| Satoshi_Miwa 1614th Post
 
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|  "Re(9):Shemue future in doubt?"
, posted Fri 8 Nov 21:14
A few points here...
1) Shenmue 2 was released for the Dreamcast in Japan, so Sega didn't really piss of it's core Japanese fans. It was there for people to consume if they wanted it. The US release was X-box only, as by that time the DC was mostly dead in the US (Though the turn around time from the DC release in Europe, to X-box release is an issue...).
2) While I don't have sales figures, i'm quite certain Shenmue didn't burn the sales charts up in Japan on the DC. Suzuki's epic has it's hard core fans, but it hasn't really hit that main stream appeal.
3) Sega's big problem right now is that it's a multi-headed beast right now, with many departments acting on their own without one core, central design strategy. That's why their games are spread over many systems, and the lack of one central game design policy. And while this allows for freedom, this does lead to a weak core business strategy.
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| Radish 511th Post
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| "Re(10):Shemue future in doubt?" , posted Sat 9 Nov 07:55:
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A few points here...
1) Shenmue 2 was released for the Dreamcast in Japan, so Sega didn't really piss of it's core Japanese fans. It was there for people to consume if they wanted it. The US release was X-box only, as by that time the DC was mostly dead in the US (Though the turn around time from the DC release in Europe, to X-box release is an issue...).
2) While I don't have sales figures, i'm quite certain Shenmue didn't burn the sales charts up in Japan on the DC. Suzuki's epic has it's hard core fans, but it hasn't really hit that main stream appeal.
3) Sega's big problem right now is that it's a multi-headed beast right now, with many departments acting on their own without one core, central design strategy. That's why their games are spread over many systems, and the lack of one central game design policy. And while this allows for freedom, this does lead to a weak core business strategy.
I don't think it had a huge impact, but most people in the US who wanted Shenmue 2, had a Dreamcast, which was its core audience. Sure they wouldn't pick up many "Well that game looks kinda cool, I think I'll pick that up!" people but they probably could have made everyone happier by releasing a Dreamcast version for the people waiting some 4 years for it and then an "enhanced" Xbox version now. I'm sure Microsoft didn't want that huge Dreamcast fanbase (ha) cutting into the Xbox’s eventual Shenmue sales so they worked out an exclusivity deal.
I really agree that Sega needs a stronger central business strategy that "Become the most powerful software developer in the world" (or whatever) because I think we all know that isn't happening anytime soon. They gotta have something for the short time and just releasing games randomly across the 3 systems isn't a good plan.
[this message was edited by Radish on Sat 9 Nov 11:14] |
| Hungrywolf 1708th Post
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| "Re(9):Shemue future in doubt?" , posted Sat 9 Nov 22:04
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Sega sold out to Microsoft and the money. That's all there is to it.
Japanese fans were pissed and this is how they get back at Sega....by not buying the products.
At least that how I see it.
So Japanese fans boycotted a native Dreamcast game because they had heard that Sega was considering not releasing the English port on Dreamcast in America.
... I think you're a little confused ^_~; (not to mention that I love your definition of 'sold out to Microsoft' *cough* Shinobi, GunGrave, Super Monkey Ball, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle etc)
Yeah, Sega hasn't sold out, though I'd liked to have seen Shenmue 2 released on DC in the states (I can get the Euro ver. though, it's offered in the game stores where I'm at). I'm happy that a lot of their games are on the cube (I wish Shinobi was coming to cube, and wish that Ninja Gaiden was too...). If they "sold out" all of their games would be on X-box only, but even then I wouldn't consider that selling out, but that's just me. They have the right to do whatever they want with their product. Just like I can't be mad at Tecmo I guess, but you could say they "sold out" maybe. Or are they producing products for other systems too?
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