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| Olivier Hagué
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|  "Re(4):New scenes added in Kingdom Hearts: Fin"
, posted Tue 5 Nov 17:30
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Why no including the changes at first?
They wouldn't be "changes", then, right? ^_^;
All that new stuff that made it in the US version and in "Kingdom Hearts Final Mix" wasn't coded yet when the original version was released... Sure, they could have delayed the release to make a better/more complete game, but hey... eventually, the game has to be released. ^^;
Sure, it shouldn't become an excuse for those guys to release incomplete games, but did "Kingdom Hearts" really feel incomplete? Should we really blame Square for releasing a new version with new stuff, months later? In a way, we're given a choice: do we want that new stuff or not?
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| iggy 921th Post
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| "Re(5):New scenes added in Kingdom Hearts: Fin" , posted Wed 6 Nov 15:03
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Sure, it shouldn't become an excuse for those guys to release incomplete games, but did "Kingdom Hearts" really feel incomplete? Should we really blame Square for releasing a new version with new stuff, months later? In a way, we're given a choice: do we want that new stuff or not?
2 things puzzle me : first, (maybe I am wrong on this point) the japanese "international" versions of FFX and KH have american voices and Japanese subtitles. In other way, even if now, years after FFX has been released, I want to play it, I will have to play the non-complete version because I want japanese voices.
The other thing is that, when games like FF7 international came in Japan, it was actually released as the 2800 yen economic package (ie : you buy the game one year later, you buy it at a small price but new, non-second hand, and you have new stuffs in it). And if you had the first game and absolutely wanted the second, it wasn't that expensive.
But now, KH final seems to be the price of a normal new game.... So the next time I will buy a square product, (ie Unlimited SaGa) I will think twice : should I buy it now or in one year with all the new stuff, scenario, items, cut scenes, character they will add?
I wonder if This game will have an international version as well.
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| Luisinan
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| "Re(2):Not best for companies to" , posted Thu 7 Nov 00:07
I agree with you on the DVD thing but you should know that New Line Cinema had announced many many many months ago that there would be 2 DVD sets for the Lord of the Rings. The one they started to sell in August was the 'regular' edition with extras. And the one being sold in November is the "hardcore fan" edition with other extras. Its stupid/silly to have to sets, but on the other hand you can justify it by saying, "we should have two sets because if we have one set, then that one will cost a lot more and maybe the average fan will not care for the extra stuff, let the hardcore fan buy both if they are really hardcore." I hate it, its just about squeezing more money out of you. I'm sure when all three movies have been released there will be a super duper special edition with all three movies.
Back on the topic of video games. What Square, Namco and some computer game companies do with "re-mixed" games is just bad. Like another person said, it kills confidence and its a blatant grab for money. Remember when Capcom did all those different versions of RE for the PSX. Same junk. This really burns the fans and makes things worse in the long term. People will more likely pirate or not buy cause they don't trust the companies any more.
Other companies should be praised though. A few companies sell special editions of their products, but they sell them simultaneously so that there is no future surprises. Perfect example is Warcraft 3. You could buy the regular or special edition on the day of release. Some games give you bonuses if you pre-order. Good stuff, but not any of these final remix crap that Square and Namco put out.
I can understand if you pay a small fee for some extra add-ons like expansion games for the PC. But full retail price on some few extras. Give me a break and shame on yourself.
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| NARUTO 1019th Post
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| "IGGY your wrong!!!!!!!" , posted Thu 7 Nov 02:22
OK here is some precision about the International of FFX.
1st Iggy FF int didn't got english voice on japanese subtittle, you just got an option that turn you the game in full japanese( voice , text, item, submenu....) or in full English (same as before) so with this little nihongo/Igo choice at the biginning you got the normal japanese or Us version.
the only mix you can do is the sphere board that you can choose to but for exemple I play with the japanese board on a english version.....
I bet the KHFM will work as the same a full japanese or a full english version.
I think so kind of thing start with FF7 when US version have two hidden boss more peoples in japanese have scream for it to so a japanese version with to boss more.
FF7 have 2 boss more
FF8 have 3 summon more than US and Europe
FF9 nothing as I know
FFX 9 boss more and some items a new grid
KHFM 3 boss of the US ver +1 new boss
new scene, new skill, new item, and a new camera system.
It seems that only big licence got it FF9, chrono cross, the bouncer, did got those so I didn't think that "Unlimited Saga final bonus remake" will be done.
just the normal versoion.
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| Olivier Hagué
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| "Re(1):Alors voila........" , posted Wed 13 Nov 23:45
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Bon, vous allez vous mettre d'accord, oui?
Dans "Final Fantasy X International", tu peux changer la langue des sous-titres et des menus, mais il n'y a que les voix anglaises.
Idem pour "Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance" et "Kingdom Hearts Final Mix" ('sais pas trop si on pourra mettre les sous-titres et menus en anglais, pour ceux-là, par contre).
Saleté de tendance...
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Olivier, le board est la grille sur la quelle tu aprend tes capaciter!!
Ben, c'est bien ce qu'il me semblait, mais vu ce que tu en dis... ^^;
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au debut on t'en propose 2, la jap et L'US.
Non, on te propose de choisir entre l'"Original Version" (qu'on trouve sur toutes les versions du jeu), et l'"International Version" (qu'on ne trouve que sur "Final Fantasy X International" et les versions PAL de "Final Fantasy X").
La grille japonaise (de la première version du jeu) et la grille US sont strictement identiques: c'est l'"Original Version".
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| iggy 964th Post
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| "Re(4):Alors voila........" , posted Thu 14 Nov 00:59
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Dans un sens, je comprends qu'il essaient de donner la possibilité à ceux que ça intéresse au Japon de jouer à la VA sans faire modifier leur console ('me demande combien il y a de consoles modifiées, là-bas, d'ailleurs! ^_^;;)...
Ca me semble surréaliste, comme question ^^
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Et ça peut faire un argument de vente supplémentaire (très précieux quand tu ne fais que ressortir une nouvelle version d'un jeu ^^;)...
Mais qu'ils me collent ça sur un DVD double-densité avec la VO, alors! >__<;;
Ben oui, ils se coupent d'une bonne partie du public, quand même...
Quoique, pour Kingdom Heart, je peux comprendre : c'est les voix originales des persos Disneys... (encore que j'ai été surpris de voir à quel point les voix jap, US et françaises se ressemblent...Biba Disney?)
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'marre que les meilleures versions soient aussi celles massacrées par un doublage anglais pourrave! >_<
[pourvu que USaGa n'ait pas de version internationale][pourvu que USaGa n'ait pas de version internationale][pourvu que USaGa n'ait pas de version internationale]
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| Olivier Hagué
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| "Re(3):Sa y est j'ai compris!!!!!!!!!" , posted Sun 17 Nov 23:45
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Zut raté... Mais alors tu fais comment???
Ben, le net. ^^;
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Et puis temps ca faire te serais t-il possible de me mailer le image que tu a mis sur gamefaqs, elle n'y sont plus.....
Ah ça, j'avais prévenu... Mais j'ai donné une autre adresse, après:
http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~nanko/im5/790.jpg
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bien qu'une bonne connaisance du manga Naruto permet de vite me trouver....)
Oui, mais Naruto, moi... ^^;
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Et puis pourquoi ingrat le job de traducteur????
Parce que du point de vue des lecteurs, s'ils pensent à toi et ton boulot, c'est en général mauvais signe. Et même quand ils te complimentent, tu ne peux pas t'empêcher de te dire "ben vi, mais s'ils lisent la VF, c'est qu'ils ne comprennent pas le japonais et donc qu'ils ne savent pas de quoi ils parlent".
Et du point de vue de l'éditeur, on te fait bien comprendre que ton boulot n'a que très peu d'importance (bizarre, j'aurais cru que le seul intérêt d'une VF, c'était la traduction?) ce qui explique sans doute pourquoi on ne te paie quand même pas comme un traducteur "normal", et que tout ce qu'on attend de toi, c'est de respecter les délais (rendre du "bon boulot"? c'est quoi, du "bon boulot"? ça change les ventes?).
Et si en plus de ça, tu es perfectionniste sans avoir le talent qu'il faut pour suivre derrière, c'est encore mieux, évidemment.
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