| Original message ([an error occurred while processing this directive] Views )[an error occurred while processing this directive]
|
Replies:
|
| OmegaDog 260th Post
 
Copper Customer
    
|  "Re(1):Best Console Controllers Of All time?"
, posted Sat 2 Nov 12:38
Does "console controllers" mean only first-party ones? If we're only talking about first party, I'd probably also go with the PS2 Dual Shock, as every button is analogue, and with the exception of 6-face buttons, it still has a good assortment of buttons. Although, granted, there are definitely complaints I could give with each first-party controller (like, the analogue sticks on the PS2 Dual Shock are too far in the center for me).
If we include all controllers, I'd say the Mad Catz Dreamcast 6-face-button controller is the best all around controller. There are the two pak slots, the analogue functions, and the nice positioning of the D-Pad and Analogue Stick that are common to Dreamcast Controllers -- and then the Mad Catz pad has six face buttons, a button reassignment function that even works for the D-Pad (say, if you want all buttons but A to be reassigned to work as R/C -- great for a game like Bangai-O when your right hand is on the analogue stick for shooting, and you want an easier way to activate the scatter missiles/lasers), and just a helpful rubbery feel to the buttons, the d-pad, the analogue stick, and the sides of the controller.
But, my favorite controllers? The Maracas Controller, of course. :) I'm still trying to see for which other games it could practically be used, besides the Samba De Amigo titles and Cool Cool Toon.
5 Stage All Cleared! VICTOLY! | NEXT STAGE IS 6 |
|
| kaepora
43th Post
Rare Customer
| "'Bout time someone likes the X-Box controller" , posted Sat 2 Nov 14:15
quote:
the American xbox controller is perfect
no competition with the crap controllers that all of you listed!
I have yet to find a "perfect" controller. The X-Box controllers are close (really close), but each one still manages to mess up something. Which is really a shame, because I like both of them a lot.
I don't like the four main face buttons on the original controller. The buttons feel stiff, and it feels like the face has been stretched vertically too much. Also, I dislike the digital pad. The face buttons and digital pad on the Controller S are near-perfect, but they moved the White, Black, Back, and Start buttons to odd areas on the controller.
I'm still waiting for a third-party controller that merges the good of both first-party controllers. That, and it makes the White & Black buttons the same size as the other buttons.
|
| Rolling Start
136th Post
Regular Customer
| "Re(2):Best Console Controllers Of All time?" , posted Sat 2 Nov 15:02
#1: SNES pad. Perfect feel, perfect amount of buttons. And really, when it comes down to it, how many of you find yourselves wishing you could use the D-Pad instead of an analog stick for most new games?
#2: N64 three-pronged wonder. Used to hate it, but now, going back to it feels sos good! For ANY 3d game, the 64 pad cannot be touched. If only Nintendo went the sony route and made it that the GC controller was just the 64 one...
Very last:
Gamecube Controller. I hate to harp on the GC so bad, but i just hate the controller SO MUCH! I used to be one of its biggest advocates, but now i just can't take it! The C-Stick is in a useless position for most games, cause you really can't have your hand perfectly over the buttons and use the C-Stick at the same time, which makes view-changing in SMS, THPS3, and SW:RL basically useless, cause you have to stop to change views. The buttons are all relatively flimsy, and my B-Button suffers from the spring-reduction "glitch" about once every 2-3 play sessions. Easily fixed, but still! And i don't pound the buttons either. The Z-Button is utterly useless, should have been left off all together. The main analog stick is, admittedly, sturdier than the 64 one, however it's too small, and over-responsive. The d-pad, well we all know about the d-pad. Awkward position, and virtually impossible to get precision control with it (ie: in Tony Hawk's, i get the move i want maybe 75% of the time, when it should really be 100%. I mean, it's digital for chrissakes!) The analog L/R buttons were a good idea, however they have been sorely underutilized. What's worse, most games require you to click the button all the way down for an in-game action, which is causing the analog precision of my R-Button to be greatly reduced. All in all, a bunch of great ideas wasted on a poorly shaped/constructed controller.
C'MON SUCKA!
|
| OmegaDog 261th Post
Copper Customer
| "Re(3):Best Console Controllers Of All time?" , posted Sun 3 Nov 10:48
I suppose I should mention that I liked the N64 controller also, basically because it allowed me to a game like Sin and Punishment with my left hand on the digital pad and the right hand on the analogue stick. I really never got used to moving the character left and right with my right hand on a controller. And, at times when I'm playing Bangai-O on the Dreamcast, I'm thinking that the N64 controller would be a lot more appropriate to the game for me -- I really can't seem to use a disconnected button set-up as a control pad, so I just have my entire right hand over the controller to access the analogue stick; I hit R/C with my pinky.
quote:
I preferred the Saturn controller that came with NiGHTS (can't remember the proper name of it...) to the Dreamcast one. Feature/feel-wise, at least. It didn't have the colored buttons or VMU slots. (A shame the Saturn --> DC converter I have doesn't work with it.)
I really really like the analogue function of the Saturn 3D controller -- wonderfully responsive, and the orb design was one that would've been wonderful if it incorporated into future controller designs. As of now, it stands as my favorite analogue controller.
Unforunately, the Saturn 3D Controller's D-Pad was pretty uncomfortable, especially when compared to the original Saturn D-Pads. And, it's pretty hard to execute fighting game moves with it... so I always switch back to the original controllers. Agreed --well, it doesn't really seem to be disputed -- the regular Saturn pads are the best regular pads for fighting games...
5 Stage All Cleared! VICTOLY! | NEXT STAGE IS 6 |
|
| Hungrywolf 1688th Post
Tailored Carpet V.I.P- Platinum Member
 
    
    
   
| "Re(3):Best Console Controllers Of All time?" , posted Sun 3 Nov 12:19
quote:
#1: SNES pad. Perfect feel, perfect amount of buttons. And really, when it comes down to it, how many of you find yourselves wishing you could use the D-Pad instead of an analog stick for most new games?
#2: N64 three-pronged wonder. Used to hate it, but now, going back to it feels sos good! For ANY 3d game, the 64 pad cannot be touched. If only Nintendo went the sony route and made it that the GC controller was just the 64 one...
Very last:
Gamecube Controller. I hate to harp on the GC so bad, but i just hate the controller SO MUCH! I used to be one of its biggest advocates, but now i just can't take it! The C-Stick is in a useless position for most games, cause you really can't have your hand perfectly over the buttons and use the C-Stick at the same time, which makes view-changing in SMS, THPS3, and SW:RL basically useless, cause you have to stop to change views. The buttons are all relatively flimsy, and my B-Button suffers from the spring-reduction "glitch" about once every 2-3 play sessions. Easily fixed, but still! And i don't pound the buttons either. The Z-Button is utterly useless, should have been left off all together. The main analog stick is, admittedly, sturdier than the 64 one, however it's too small, and over-responsive. The d-pad, well we all know about the d-pad. Awkward position, and virtually impossible to get precision control with it (ie: in Tony Hawk's, i get the move i want maybe 75% of the time, when it should really be 100%. I mean, it's digital for chrissakes!) The analog L/R buttons were a good idea, however they have been sorely underutilized. What's worse, most games require you to click the button all the way down for an in-game action, which is causing the analog precision of my R-Button to be greatly reduced. All in all, a bunch of great ideas wasted on a poorly shaped/constructed controller.
I wouldn't consider the NES pad one of the best, but I like all the other Nintendo controllers (including the GCN one, though it does need a larger D pad. I love it though other than that. I love my wavebird to death! It's so light and perfect...) and the DC controller is wonderful, it was great for all the fighters I got for my DC. The PSX controllers have been good too. I don't really like the american X-box 1st party controller though, but it's ok, i can deal with it, just wish it was a little smaller.
"Someday we'll find it the rainbow connection..." -Kermit The Muppet Movie
Hungry Like the Wolf
|
| oyashiroforever
40th Post
Rare Customer
| "Re(3):SIZE MATTERS!!!" , posted Fri 8 Nov 11:00
quote:
OF COURSE SIZE DOES MATTER!!!!!
...
.....
.......
...........what? oh, controller size...
Size definitely matters... the smaller, the better. I'm 6'3" and have very large hands, but that doesn't make modern controllers any less cumbersome or unforgiving, especially for 2D fighting games. CvS2/MvC2 on Xbox or Gamecube? No thanks.
Best controllers ever:
5) SNES AsciiPad: not sure how I ever lived w/o it <sigh>
4) NES Dogbone controller: the old controllers were blisterrific... 2nd gen dogbone controllers were like mini-SNES pads
3) Gamecube Wavebird: not a big fan of the GC controller design, but something must be said for a wireless that works this well... hopefully the wave of the future (pun not intended)
2) PS1/PS2 1st party: For anything other than 2D fighting games, they're a dream. Not ridiculously oversized, great button layout, logical next step in evolution after...
1) Jap. Saturn pad: Sheer, unadulterated bliss. 6 face buttons (lined up, no less! <gasp>), comfortable D-pad that prevents thumb stress. Simple, lightweight... a gift from the almighty himself. I've bought a converter that allows me to use it on my PS1/2 and another one for the DC. If they ever make one to convert it to any other system, I'll buy that too.
Dead Last: US Xbox controller: all weight jokes aside, this controller looks like it was designed specifically for Halo and MS just said "fuck you" to everyone else making games. Buttons seem to be randomly placed, shaped, and sized. Obnoxious oversized logo is totally unnecessary. Big and ugly, much like the machine itself. Damn you, Halo!!! :P
"I haven't slept for 10 days because that would be too long."
"Your denial is beneath you and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs I see through you."
|
|
|
"Best Console Controllers Of All time?" 
"Re(1):Best Console Controllers Of All time?" 
"You're all WAAAY off!!" 
"Re(7):Best Console Controllers Of All time?" 
