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Dragon-warrior

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"Suikoden III is out!" , posted Wed 23 Oct 20:28

so did any one get it?
I will play it after I finish my lovely WA3.
for those who played it , how is the music?

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Hagen de Merak
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"Re(1):Suikoden III is out!" , posted Wed 23 Oct 21:20

quote:
so did any one get it?
I will play it after I finish my lovely WA3.
for those who played it , how is the music?

it is? damn i need a ps2, i also want contra : SS. all these cool games coming out.

Radish

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"Re(1):Suikoden III is out!" , posted Wed 23 Oct 21:21

quote:
so did any one get it?
I will play it after I finish my lovely WA3.
for those who played it , how is the music?

Likewise! I was going to go back and get a save on the last point on Suikoden 2, but when I heard that all it unlocks is a stupid play, I didn't want to waste my time.

Mozex
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"Re(2):Suikoden III is out!" , posted Wed 23 Oct 23:21

quote:
Likewise! I was going to go back and get a save on the last point on Suikoden 2, but when I heard that all it unlocks is a stupid play, I didn't want to waste my time.

Lucky, at least you have Suikoden 2. It just doesn't seem to show up at any of the used game stores where I live. :(

I will be gettig Suikoden 3, but probably not till december so that it doesn't get in the way of work/school. I have enough distractions already.

Be kind to goblins.

iggy

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"Re(2):Suikoden III is out!" , posted Thu 24 Oct 00:44

quote:
Likewise! I was going to go back and get a save on the last point on Suikoden 2, but when I heard that all it unlocks is a stupid play, I didn't want to waste my time.

Yes, but what a play!

Gojira

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"First impressions..." , posted Thu 24 Oct 22:27:

I just got it today.

I don't feel comfy reviewing it yet because I'm not very far into it and don't quite understand everything, but what I get after a few hours of it:

The intro piece is a GOD of all animation. This has to be the greatest anime-style intro I have ever... and I mean EVER seen in an RPG. It perfectly blends hand-drawn and CG animation in motion-picture quality, against the familiar choral chanting that is Suikoden's soundtrack staple. I watched the intro so many times it took me 30 minutes just to hit the start button. A must-see.

After that, it's kinda downhill. The roaming system is pretty sluggish, and it includes the additional no-no combination of constantly changing camera angles with directional movement. What this means is that numerous times I found myself walking in a direction I didn't mean to because the camera switched. I really hate that.

The battle system is promising... battles start instantly like always, and animation is fairly simple and less showy than other RPGs. Haven't had many battles so I can't say much else yet.

The translation is unfortunately lackluster, like the other two Suikodens. At times the dialogue makes no sense, and talking to people is just plain boring. Nobody has anything interesting to say. The only reason to talk to people is the off-chance that they might give you something completely out of nowhere. I feel really bad about this because the story seems to have the same twisting quality of the previous Suikodens... I thought the age of poor localizations was over, I really did... the only good thing I can think about it, is that despite the poor translation of the other Suikodens, the story managed to grab my attention anyway. Hopefully S3 will be the same way.

Graphics and music are about average. They're solid, but not outstanding. It's a shame, because I had high hopes for the soundtrack, being a Konami game and all... with that in mind, it's surprisingly, disappointingly generic.

Eh, that was longer than I expected. Oh well. I'll make a more official review when I'm much deeper into the game.

GSPX progress: 38% done! New build to be released: 11-7-02

[this message was edited by Gojira on Thu 24 Oct 22:32]

Adon

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"Re(1):First impressions..." , posted Fri 25 Oct 01:41:

Awwww man, I need it real bad but no cash at all. Just bought a digital camera and my stupid car loves to go to the mechanics like monthly. Soon though very, soon, I will have reason for living again. Ahh the passion of such a game.

[this message was edited by Adon on Fri 25 Oct 01:41]

Dragon-warrior

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"Re(2):First impressions..." , posted Fri 25 Oct 08:03

the game suffers from the slow down, isn't that true?

Gojira

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"Re(3):First impressions..." , posted Fri 25 Oct 15:55

quote:
the game suffers from the slow down, isn't that true?

Yeah, but only in the big cities with lots of people walking around.

It's not so much the slowdown as it is the slow walking/running pace. Traveling in what seems like a fairly small area can take longer than you'd expect. According to IGN the game is easily 80 hours long... of course a lot of that review was bullshit so I wouldn't believe it, but given the slow pace I wouldn't be surprised if it did take that long to finish.

I finally got to do an army battle, but they changed it! :( No more of the 800 little midget sprites running around and leaving little midget stains in their wake. Now it's more like squads of four. The strategy is a bit deeper this way though, so it's not a total loss.

Anyway, as I hoped, the story is indeed cool in ways that transcend poor translations. Being able to view the story from different perspectives isn't exactly a new idea, but in a story of this magnitude it adds a great deal to the mystery of who is instigating the war and why. Very nicely thought-out.

And I am still watching the intro way too much. I wonder when I'll get tired of it...

GSPX progress: 38% done! New build to be released: 11-7-02

Juan

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"Pardon the stupid question but..." , posted Fri 25 Oct 16:22

What should i get when my animal crossing money tree grows fruit again? Suikoden 3 or Wild Arms? (not very familiar with suikoden, but if its good then it works for me, i need a good rpg.)

quote:

It's not so much the slowdown as it is the slow walking/running pace. Traveling in what seems like a fairly small area can take longer than you'd expect. According to IGN the game is easily 80 hours long... of course a lot of that review was bullshit

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Dragon-warrior

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"Re(1):Pardon the stupid question but..." , posted Fri 25 Oct 17:39:

both are awsome!
I am playing WA3 now and I love it so much, I will play Suikoden 3 after I finish WA3.
you can say suikoden 3 have better story maybe (I think.) .
still I love WA3 story
both are great!
I can recommend WA3 but that doesn't mean it is better than Suikoden3.

[this message was edited by Dragon-warrior on Fri 25 Oct 17:39]

Gojira

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"Re(1):Pardon the stupid question but..." , posted Fri 25 Oct 23:45

quote:
What should i get when my animal crossing money tree grows fruit again? Suikoden 3 or Wild Arms? (not very familiar with suikoden, but if its good then it works for me, i need a good rpg.)

Well, I can't say much for Wild Arms because I've only played a demo, but in Suikoden III there's this one part where a dog man raises his hand and says "Excuse me, but Juan is not here!" :P

GSPX progress: 38% done! New build to be released: 11-7-02

Juan

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"OH MY DOG!!!" , posted Sat 26 Oct 00:08:

HOLY CRAP!! it is true!! I am sold!!!

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Juan: Martial arts master that can can keep awake as long as it is necessary in any place and situation.

!!!!!!!!!

quote:
but in Suikoden III there's this one part where a dog man raises his hand and says "Excuse me, but Juan is not here!" :P

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[this message was edited by Juan on Sat 26 Oct 00:08]