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"M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Thu 3 Oct 17:32post reply


Fuck.






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"Re(1):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Thu 3 Oct 17:44post reply


Damn. I hadn't actually purchased a PS2 mod yet, either...





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"Re(1):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Thu 3 Oct 19:17post reply


Man... I was wondering when something like this would finally happen; I guess Microsoft actually has the funds to go against this sort of activity through the legal system. While I at least know Sony acted against defeating these locks with changes in PSX models, none of the other console developers really acted against defeating the territorial/proprietary lock with lawsuits and shut-downs of an entire business, have they?

Given how much I support at least morally support homebrew titles, open-source software, and the ability to play imports on a domestic system... as great as XBox titles can be, I suppose this can be a tangential reason why I'll by the system and/or its titles second-hand or in the bargain bin (the primary reason being limited funds).





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"Re(1):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Thu 3 Oct 20:17post reply


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Fuck.

Indeed.





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"Re(1):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Thu 3 Oct 20:35post reply


Dang... Though I doubt this will curtail X-box mods. If anything this will get the community more active in it...





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"Shudder" , posted Thu 3 Oct 20:37post reply


There was progamming stuff I needed to order once I had the money.

Nooooo...





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"Re(1):Shudder" , posted Thu 3 Oct 22:19post reply


Damn I need to hurry up and find money to buy that new non solder modchip for my Xbox before Microsoft goes after the 1 retailer that sells it too.





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"Re(1):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Thu 3 Oct 23:02post reply


It's sucks especially considering how little MS probably lost to pirating. Nobody's buying their system, how can they lose money on software?

I just want to import PS2 games...now I don't know of a reliable retailer from which to get the chip. Anyone have ideas for me?





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"Re(2):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Thu 3 Oct 23:17post reply


I reiterate: remind me once again why Microsoft entering into consoles is such a great idea?





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"Re(2):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Fri 4 Oct 00:31post reply


quote:

I just want to import PS2 games...now I don't know of a reliable retailer from which to get the chip. Anyone have ideas for me?



Modchips for PS2 are iffy. I've heard that some of the more recent games won't work with the same modchips that work for older ones. That's partly why I haven't bothered to get one yet.

A Japanese PS2 works best, really...





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"Re(3):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Fri 4 Oct 00:42post reply


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A Japanese PS2 works best, really...



I know...but they're still 230$, which is a lot more than 100 for an installed chip :/

I've heard good things about the apple II and a couple of others. But...I don't know :/


I'm trying to get ahold of a fellow I know from Lik-Sang for an interview. I want to hear their side of it.





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"Re(2):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Fri 4 Oct 01:21post reply


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It's sucks especially considering how little MS probably lost to pirating. Nobody's buying their system, how can they lose money on software?


[Medium mode. During the transe, the spirits of other beeing from other relms talk with my fingers and my keyboard]

We didn't sell many X Box because everybody was pirating it with those PS2 mod chips! Now everyone has tasted the wonderfulness of the X Box games and will be gratefull to us for shutting down this evil evil evil chinese evil communists taliban evil pirate Lik Sang, we will sell 1M X Box a day!

[The transe stops. The medium, exausted, drinks a whole bottle of cognac to regain his forces. Then he reads what he wrote, and drinks a bottle of porto to forget about the traumatising experience. And take his phone to buy 3 pizzas for 8 person, with french mustard and green pepper]





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"Re(3):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Fri 4 Oct 02:16post reply


Damn they are an interesting site!
I hope Lik-Sang survives.

Anyway Microsoft is being completely erratic... They really aren't cut out for the console market.





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"Re(4):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Fri 4 Oct 02:51post reply


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Damn they are an interesting site!
I hope Lik-Sang survives.

Anyway Microsoft is being completely erratic... They really aren't cut out for the console market.



It really screws over my site's readers...they were the main western distributer for GP32, and they were sponsering this developer's competition, the ADIC 2002. Gah. My emails aren't getting through just yet. I'll keep trying!





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"Re(5):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Fri 4 Oct 09:12post reply


[quoteIt really screws over my site's readers...they were the main western distributer for GP32, and they were sponsering this developer's competition, the ADIC 2002. Gah. My emails aren't getting through just yet. I'll keep trying!



Well I hope you manage to get some info!





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"MS is going after China" , posted Fri 4 Oct 09:38post reply


First, they want the Chinese to stop bootlegging MS WIndows and MS products, now its mod chips...

Still, Sony was just as evil...





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"Re(3):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Fri 4 Oct 09:44post reply


quote:

I just want to import PS2 games...now I don't know of a reliable retailer from which to get the chip. Anyone have ideas for me?


Modchips for PS2 are iffy. I've heard that some of the more recent games won't work with the same modchips that work for older ones. That's partly why I haven't bothered to get one yet.

A Japanese PS2 works best, really...



That's the route I'll eventually take. Funny how Sony and MicroScheiss (blast, can't make an Eszett on this board) are so anal about import playing. It's actually pretty easy to make a pirated PS2 game (just getting it to be recognized on the system is a problem), but imports are hellacious to get to work. On the other hand, Sega's systems were easy to modify for import game playing, but copying their games was almost impossible (I hear that Dreamcast games finally got burned towards the end of the run, but even then...)! Same with Nintendo (really, where are you going to find discs the size of GC disks)? Their secret: varied data-compression schemes that are probably proprietary (but it isn't like Sony and MicroScheiss couldn't do something just like that).

So when Sony and MicroScheiss go after "piracy", I'm really wondering what they're going after. To keep video game markets segregated perhaps? Even though not too many people bother spending the money for import games -- but probably just enough for business that deal in their sales to exist in droves, the majority aren't going to deal with text they can't read and stories they can't decipher. Some of us, like me, actually have the option of the opposite.

And then, others, just don't give a crap. They just want to play their game now. Still, they aren't the significant market.

I tell you what, it's a classic case of El Asso Wipo Economics!





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"Re(4):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Fri 4 Oct 11:46post reply


I still cannot forgive Sony for going after Bleem, I have the right to play Metal Gear Solid 2 on my Dreamcast or PC, I paid for it, I can do what I want with it as long as I am not copying it and distributing it to other people.





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"Re(5):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Sat 5 Oct 08:31post reply


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I still cannot forgive Sony for going after Bleem, I have the right to play Metal Gear Solid 2 on my Dreamcast or PC, I paid for it, I can do what I want with it as long as I am not copying it and distributing it to other people.



I am sorry, but I think Bleem got exactly what it deserved. The moment it decided to drop the its faithful PC customers for Bleemcast, I wished the worst for them.

Bleem died? Good!





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"Re(1):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Sat 5 Oct 08:40post reply


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Fuck.



Ok, what I dont' get is this. You could buy a car and mod it, it is not against the law. You could buy a BB gun and mod it, it would not be the fault of the person who sold you the gun. So, what does MS have to go after the guy and even shut him down?

Because his mod chips have the potential allow Xbox & PS2 to play pirated games? Well, if that is the logic behind this, we should not be able to buy knives, guns, or anything else that has the potential to perform illegal tasks.

To me, it is more like this. Once I piad the money, this item is mine. Sony nor MS and not even my mohter has the right to intervere. So, what makes the person who provides the tools for people who have the right to mod their system guilty?

That I really want to know....





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"Re(1):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Sat 5 Oct 09:51post reply


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Fuck.



Lik-Sang will be back in another form, you can count on it! for now, only time will be the key.





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"Re(2):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Sun 6 Oct 11:41post reply


just noticed that NCS (www.ncsx.com) appears to have taken down their domestic and import x-box console listings (modded or not). their shop still lists the SCART RGB cable, the Universal Composite + S-Video Cable, and the x-box japanese controller -- but no consoles. haven't seen an explanation posted on their site yet.

--Chris





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"Re(2):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Mon 7 Oct 16:44post reply


quote:
Fuck.


Ok, what I dont' get is this. You could buy a car and mod it, it is not against the law. You could buy a BB gun and mod it, it would not be the fault of the person who sold you the gun. So, what does MS have to go after the guy and even shut him down?

Because his mod chips have the potential allow Xbox & PS2 to play pirated games? Well, if that is the logic behind this, we should not be able to buy knives, guns, or anything else that has the potential to perform illegal tasks.

To me, it is more like this. Once I piad the money, this item is mine. Sony nor MS and not even my mohter has the right to intervere. So, what makes the person who provides the tools for people who have the right to mod their system guilty?

That I really want to know....



I would assume the reason that a Company who sells things would want to shut down a Company who sells something that allows them to rip off the company that sells things would be so that they don't get ripped off and can sell more.

Not because your performing Illegal activities but because they're losing money if you do.

If you stab somebody with a knife. =P No corporation loses money, so why would any corporation go after that?

They're just protecting their own self interests. Which would be logical.

I wonder if they'd go after a mod chip that took off the territory protection but left in the copyright... I import things myself, but I don't like piraters.





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"Re(3):M$ Killed Lik-Sang!" , posted Mon 7 Oct 16:50post reply


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I wonder if they'd go after a mod chip that took off the territory protection but left in the copyright... I import things myself, but I don't like piraters.



well...if they didn't care about that, why make region encoded discs to begin with?

Also, nobody here has discussed pirating. If people want to play homebrews on their system, this is the only way...