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| Taa kun 322th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):ARCADE info please!"
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It was: Martial Master, Fallen angel, and Asura's Buster.
From what I can remember from my old Gamest collection...
Martial Master : isn't this the game where your characters have the name of their fighting style ?
Fallen Angel : the Groove on Fight sequel, with very special designs characters and a lot of seiyuu, Luke/Rook (Capcom all Stars) is from this game, isn't he. (Capcom-Psykyo alliance...)
A lot of inspiration to Kof from this game : a Maxima character, a K9999 character, the little guy in Lin's team victory pose, and so on...
Asura's Buster... I can't remember, I've seen a shoot them up with Asura in his name and a fighting game...
Tsukurimashou... Tsukurimashou...
Sate sate nani ga dekiru ka na ?
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| RugalBernstein 2461th Post
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| "Re(1):ARCADE info please!" , posted Fri 27 Sep 08:19
Daraku Tenshi/ " Fallen Angels ". Blah, I'm actually going to try and make some movies of this, soon. Personally, I think the game is pretty bad, and is a sorry KOF rip off, play wise ( Harry Ness and Cool, the Maxima and K' characters, respectively, were designed by the same guy who designed K' and Maxima, so there's a reason they look similar. ) It features a homeless Takuma ( named Onigawara ) Yashirou with Ralf's Galactica Phantom (Haiji) and and a number of other fairly uninspired characters ( Taro... gragh! ) However, Roche, the freaky kid, is quite cool, and the bosses are awesome ( Trigger and Carlos!! Argh, why aren't they usable??? ) It's a pity this game was never finished; there were actually supposed to be about 4 more characters in it, but the producer died, or something, so it was never completed. Doesn't even have endings. -_-
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| Gen 732th Post
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| "Re(2):ARCADE info please!" , posted Fri 27 Sep 14:57:
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It was: Martial Master, Fallen angel, and Asura's Buster.
From what I can remember from my old Gamest collection...
Martial Master : isn't this the game where your characters have the name of their fighting style ?
Fallen Angel : the Groove on Fight sequel, with very special designs characters and a lot of seiyuu, Luke/Rook (Capcom all Stars) is from this game, isn't he. (Capcom-Psykyo alliance...)
A lot of inspiration to Kof from this game : a Maxima character, a K9999 character, the little guy in Lin's team victory pose, and so on...
Asura's Buster... I can't remember, I've seen a shoot them up with Asura in his name and a fighting game...
While I've never played Groove on Fight, I highly doubt that Daraku Tenshi / The Fallen Angels is a sequal to it. I also think the looks of Rook/Luke are coinsidental, that he's not supposed to be Cool with different name and appearance.
I think this game came out before KF'99. This game was inspired greatly by KF, and I believe that one of the same artists contributed to both games, thus the similar looks of K', Maxima and Krizalid to Cool, Harry, and Trigger.
The other characters from Fallen Angels having looks like KF characters are probably the result of the influnce KF had on Fallen Angels.
I'm usually surprised at how little interest KF players show (on message boards atleast) in this game.
Here's a comparison I made of some of the characters: http://linkline.com/personal/Panther/kkm.htm
[this message was edited by Gen on Fri 27 Sep 14:58] |
| Chupiler 704th Post
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| "Daraku Tenshi" , posted Fri 27 Sep 19:48
Actually, KOF seemed to have ripped a lot more off of Daraku Tenshi then the other way around. . Daraku came out before KOF 99. In fact, it came out before 98, and Ralf's Galatica Phantom got super armor at 98, which leads people to believe the KOF staff took it from Haiji's "Minagoroshi no Trumpet".
In the first place, Daraku Tenshi's staff were former SNK staff who broke off after 95. Before the character designer left for Psikyo he left behind some rough sketches, one to become Yashiro in 97. But that also became Haiji. I have a scan of the designer talking about that incident, but I can't find it...
Daraku Tenshi did rip some stuff from KOF. But the infamous KOF staff ripped back even more, and on top of that really showed their respect for Daraku Tenshi :P
Kyo's 182 = Haiji's Hidari-kiki no BABY
Kyo's Hikigane = Haiji's Nageki no Shiro (even the same phrase "bu tobashite yaru!")
K' = Cool
Harry = Maxima
Whip's dislikes: Angels, Daraku (Falling, as in falling angels)
99 Boss song is "Dear Falling Angel"
Krizalid's super "End of Eden" (DT takes place in Eden)
Boy, the KOF staff have a lot of vengence, don't they? No wonder they weren't popular with the other SNK teams.
Then again, you can't really bag on Psikyo for ripping, since SNK does waaaaaaaay more ripping in the first place :P
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| Chupiler 705th Post
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| "Asura Buster" , posted Fri 27 Sep 20:20
Oh, yeah, about Daraku, it's not a Groove on Fight sequel. The illustrations are done by Morioka, not Murata, and the Gouketsuji team never was at Psikyo. And Rook isn't from this game :P
>Gojira
That's sounds like Warzard to me...
Now onto Asura Buster. I enjoy this game a lot, and wish there was a home version... Maybe next time I go to Japan I'll save up for a board...
Anyways it's the sequel to Asura Blade. I dont' know what exactly what you want to know, but it was published by FUUKI. The endings in this game were hard to comprehend. My main characters were Alice! and Alice. I used Alice more though, since I like her arrogant phrases and moves. It's definitely not because Alice doesn't were tights like Alice! does......er...yeah, forget that....
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| Gen 738th Post
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| "Re(1):Daraku Tenshi" , posted Fri 27 Sep 21:40:
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Actually, KOF seemed to have ripped a lot more off of Daraku Tenshi then the other way around. . Daraku came out before KOF 99. In fact, it came out before 98, and Ralf's Galatica Phantom got super armor at 98, which leads people to believe the KOF staff took it from Haiji's "Minagoroshi no Trumpet".
In the first place, Daraku Tenshi's staff were former SNK staff who broke off after 95. Before the character designer left for Psikyo he left behind some rough sketches, one to become Yashiro in 97. But that also became Haiji. I have a scan of the designer talking about that incident, but I can't find it...
Daraku Tenshi did rip some stuff from KOF. But the infamous KOF staff ripped back even more, and on top of that really showed their respect for Daraku Tenshi :P
Kyo's 182 = Haiji's Hidari-kiki no BABY
Kyo's Hikigane = Haiji's Nageki no Shiro (even the same phrase "bu tobashite yaru!")
K' = Cool
Harry = Maxima
Whip's dislikes: Angels, Daraku (Falling, as in falling angels)
99 Boss song is "Dear Falling Angel"
Krizalid's super "End of Eden" (DT takes place in Eden)
Boy, the KOF staff have a lot of vengence, don't they? No wonder they weren't popular with the other SNK teams.
Then again, you can't really bag on Psikyo for ripping, since SNK does waaaaaaaay more ripping in the first place :P
wow cool, where did you get all that good info?
So when KoF coppies other games, are they really doing it to make fun of them/ hurt them?
[this message was edited by Gen on Fri 27 Sep 23:07] |
| iggy 678th Post
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| "Re(3):Daraku Tenshi" , posted Sat 28 Sep 00:19
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It depends on who you ask about them copying. Some say it's an homage. Others say they get lazy and just leech off other's works. I tend to think it's the latter. They do it way too often, and that deters from originality. And then there's Tetsuo...
Hmmm... how do you say "bakuri" in english?
I think SNK made many, many references (sometimes completely obscure like many character's mooves names (Leona, Benimaru...), and sometime much more clear like Benimaru appearance). Tetsuo is too much for a reference. Benimaru was a great hommage because there was a real work to create an original character from the hommage design. Tetsuo even uses the same sentences, and the hidden SDM is... ahem. (And some of his normal mooves, like the jump C and forward C I think, were the sames as Amingo's. But That's another subject.) By the way, who has the same voice actor as Kaneda?
But if you take Tetsuo as a ripp, what about Q? Was it an hommage, or a ripp off because they had no idea for a new character?
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