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ChunliFan

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"Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Tue 24 Sep 16:03

Hello guys! I really need you guys opinion on this. For those of you who have played Tekken 4, I need you to tell me if its worth buying, why or why not. Ive seen some good reviews, and a lot of mediocre reviews. I think I will get you guys opinions first before I make the purchase. Thanks!

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talbaineric

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"Re(1):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Tue 24 Sep 16:15

It's supposed to have come out today,right?

I've read it's the best Tekken yet,and even though they ommitted most secrets,it's still a good game.

I can't wait to snag this next payday!

Of course,Sly Cooper comes first!

Rid Hershel

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"Re(1):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Tue 24 Sep 16:43

Excellent. Not the biggest improvement over its prequels, but surely a deep and interesting game. Plus Christie Monteiro just makes it a must-buy for me.

Mosquiton

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"Re(2):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Tue 24 Sep 17:04

It's aiight... the closed fighting areas aren't as cool as Namco probably wished they were.

It's more Tekken basically, so if you dig the Tekken you'll dig this.

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wingzero

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"for sure!" , posted Tue 24 Sep 19:12

quote:
Hello guys! I really need you guys opinion on this. For those of you who have played Tekken 4, I need you to tell me if its worth buying, why or why not. Ive seen some good reviews, and a lot of mediocre reviews. I think I will get you guys opinions first before I make the purchase. Thanks!

Tekken 4 is a great game. I played it to death in the arcades and i will be buying it soon. best Tekken after 3 IMHO. plus Jin kazama is tha bomb!!

shrapnel

dragon-warrior

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"Re(1):for sure!" , posted Tue 24 Sep 19:21

best TEKKEN until now but I found my self not interisted, I think 3D games aren't for multiplayer (VS games), still alot of fun!
if you like any 3D fighting game then give it a try.

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"Re(2):for sure!" , posted Tue 24 Sep 19:58

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It's aiight... the closed fighting areas aren't as cool as Namco probably wished they were.

hell yea! everyone seems to love that "fight club" stage but it's so fking small! i always get destroyed in that stage, no matter who i'm fighting

as for whether you should buy it or not, sure, why not. i'll probably wait for it to (hopefully) get on that "best seller's" list so i can pick it up for $20. but for some reason, i never got used to Tekken 4's environment, yet i can fight perfectly well in Tekken 3 and Tag

Hagen de Merak
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"Re(1):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Tue 24 Sep 21:31

quote:
Hello guys! I really need you guys opinion on this. For those of you who have played Tekken 4, I need you to tell me if its worth buying, why or why not. Ive seen some good reviews, and a lot of mediocre reviews. I think I will get you guys opinions first before I make the purchase. Thanks!

that game sucks, dont buy it!...........nah,
but really, if it were me and i had a previous tekken, say part 3 or tag, i wouldnt get it, to me it was pretty much the same game, expect for a few changes. the same tekken formula is there. so if your a big fan go ahead and get it. the backgrounds alone are worth it.

Juke Joint Jezebel

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"Re(2):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Tue 24 Sep 23:02

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the backgrounds alone are worth it

hell yea, dude! Namco knows how to make beautiful backgrounds .... and they added nighttime city stages?! (i love the night and i love cities.) god, that's more than enough for me

in one of the intros of Tekken Tag, it shows Kazuya in an office building (not your typical building, mind you. looks like a place of business where Geese or Heihachi or Rugal would do their work. yea, it's probably one of those Mishima zaibatsu buildings when he was top dog of that corporation). i always wanted to fight inside or on top of that building. i'm glad they added similar-looking stages in Tekken 4. it just looks so fking amazing

Gojira

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"Re(1):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Wed 25 Sep 04:48

If people still play T4 where you are it may be worth getting but otherwise there's not much to it. Tekken Force is pretty mindless at best, Story mode has good intentions but the whole text-on-pictures thing is pretty damn dull in execution, and the FMVs use pretty low-quality rendering. If you've never played Tekken 4 though, it's worth renting at least.

BTW, the home US version has a few voice changes. I didn't mind Steve and Craig's voices before, but Hwoarang's voice sucked, so any change is a good one there... and now he speaks Korean! W00t?!

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Radish

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"Re(2):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Wed 25 Sep 05:17

I think people are getting bored of 3D fighters. Short of making them look like reality (which would be bad in my opinion) they've really gone as far as they can co, baring minor graphical improvements. To me it seems that Tekken 4 is just Tekken Tag without the tag feature, closed arenas and a couple new/less characters. Same with Soul Caliber 2 which feels more like SC lite than a sequel.

At my local arcade where there used to be lines playing pretty much all kinds of fighters, there are Tekken 4 and Soul Calibur 2 cabinets that no one plays. Sadly they took out all the 2D fighters, so I don't go much anymore. The only games I see people consistently playing are the Wantan Midnight racer and DDR (and even that is waning in popularity.)

Grynn
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"Re(3):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Wed 25 Sep 07:28

Well I'm no Tekken fan so my opinion doesn't count, but I have friends who are hardcore fans of the series and they all told me that TTT is the best of the series.

I am a VF4 player and I advise on getting VF4 instead

Seriously though there is still innovation going on in the 3D fighting series. It might not be apparent but new ideas are implemented in these games.

Yare Yare ^_^'

Siegfried
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"Re(4):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Wed 25 Sep 07:55

If you're not a Tekken fan, you should avoid T4 like the plague. I enjoy it a little, but it's not even close to VF4, SC1 or even DoA3. Anyway, I got it for free so it's not that bad.

For you Americans, I suggest getting TTT instead. It has a lot more characters, the same antialiasing and I simply don't care about the backgrounds anyway. TTT looks better too IMHO.

For Europeans, there sadly isn't any choice. TTT is unplayably slow so T4 is the only way to go.

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Toxico

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"Re(5):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Wed 25 Sep 09:07

If you are not a hardcore player of TTT you will notice no difference and you will notice that the walls are so damn annoying.

But if you did get in depth TTT you will notice big differences an some interestincs modified methodics.

All of the people that like TTT over Tekken 4 is because they two bits 50% combos don't work on Tekken 4 and for the side step change (not only the side step method, but the axis has also changed).

The game shows a face a little different from TTT, thus I recommed it.

Burning Kyo

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"Re(1):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Wed 25 Sep 09:16

quote:
Hello guys! I really need you guys opinion on this. For those of you who have played Tekken 4, I need you to tell me if its worth buying, why or why not. Ive seen some good reviews, and a lot of mediocre reviews. I think I will get you guys opinions first before I make the purchase. Thanks!

Yep, It's good game !

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ChunliFan

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"Re(2):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Wed 25 Sep 15:12

Thanks guys. I've decided that im gonna buy it.

Mosquiton

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"It's not just 3D fighters people are tired of" , posted Wed 25 Sep 15:15

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I think people are getting bored of 3D fighters. Short of making them look like reality (which would be bad in my opinion) they've really gone as far as they can co, baring minor graphical improvements.

At my local arcade where there used to be lines playing pretty much all kinds of fighters, there are Tekken 4 and Soul Calibur 2 cabinets that no one plays. Sadly they took out all the 2D fighters, so I don't go much anymore...

Well, why would they take out all the 2D fighters... I don't think it was just to be mean, it's more likely they're gone because even fewer people were playing them that the 3D fighters.

Of course I'm not arguing with you here Radish, just saying that your point is true for all fighting games. The formula hasn't substantially changed or improved in a long time, and it can no longer attract new players.

Exceptions I think would be games like Virtua On and PowerStone, although Virtua On is pretty intimidating.

What I want to see is another Bushido Blade.

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Dragon-warrior

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"Re(3):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Wed 25 Sep 15:24

quote:
Thanks guys. I've decided that im gonna buy it.

when you do tell us what do you think!

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Red
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"Re(4):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Thu 26 Sep 01:04

Jins LS + JF takes out basically everything ;)

Byebye

Iron D

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"Re(3):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Thu 26 Sep 10:38

quote:
Thanks guys. I've decided that im gonna buy it.

Good Choice, Chunlifan!

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ChunliFan

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"Re(5):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Thu 26 Sep 12:48

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Jins LS + JF takes out basically everything ;)

Please explain. I heard Jin was broken and all but I need details.

Toxico

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"Re(6):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Thu 26 Sep 13:03

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Jins LS + JF takes out basically everything ;)

Please explain. I heard Jin was broken and all but I need details.

Jin is not "broken" (I don't get the meaning of that anyway) nor weaker nor anything, he just got for about 75% of his move sets changed for other ones (as you might have heard).

The newer moves are quite good I'd say, but the gave the character a new face; a big asset of feints and a new stance (inspired in the devil Jin one) are in order.

The JF Laser Scapper is tricky, is his old LS (b, f + 2, 1, d + 2) but the last attack is an unblockable. The LS can end with a slow easy to do inblockable, with the normal launcher that can be blocked, with the straight punch and with the quick evasive JF launcher... I haven't checked, but hopefuly you can still SS out of it like you did in TTT (no one plays Jin here because those sucky ass smashers can adjust to the changes, they also can't afford the game (you play it on a console... don't get me started on this).

Iron D

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"Jin. And a question for Toxico." , posted Thu 26 Sep 13:13

Jin was insane in TTT, but I think T4 Jin is even more dominant!

Hey, Toxico! Do you know where I can find a list of tiers for T4? I don't think Tekkenzaibatsu has any.

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Toxico

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"The "so called Tiers"" , posted Thu 26 Sep 13:27

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Jin was insane in TTT, but I think T4 Jin is even more dominant!

Hey, Toxico! Do you know where I can find a list of tiers for T4? I don't think Tekkenzaibatsu has any.

In fact, the Zaibatsu posted an article for a japanese magazine (aracadia was the name, but that is if I recall correctly). I don't quite recall the whole article, but I remember some positions:

1.- Jin
2.- Heihachi
3.- Violet
5.- Xiaoyu (?)
7.- Hwoarang (?)
8.- Kazuya (?)
9.- Steve

last.- Kuma
prior.- Craig

There it should be the article on the zaibatsu, but I got troubles reaching the server.

Iron D

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"Re(1):The" , posted Thu 26 Sep 13:40

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1.- Jin
2.- Heihachi
3.- Violet
5.- Xiaoyu (?)
7.- Hwoarang (?)
8.- Kazuya (?)
9.- Steve

last.- Kuma
prior.- Craig

There it should be the article on the zaibatsu, but I got troubles reaching the server.

Jin #1, eh? Just as I thought. I'm a little surprised to see Steve so low though. I thought he was a more dominant character than that.

While I really don't pay any attention to tiers when I'm playing, I still find them interesting and fun to look at.

Thanks, Toxico!

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"Update" , posted Thu 26 Sep 13:51

The characters got their owns scores, dunno what they mean and I just recall a few.

1.- Jin 108 pts.
2.- Heihachi 101 pts.
3.- Violet 99 pts.
5.- Xiaoyu (?)
7.- Hwoarang (?)
8.- Kazuya (?)
9.- Steve

last.- Kuma 77 pts.
prior.- Craig 79 pts.

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kyo717
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"Re(6):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Thu 26 Sep 15:42

quote:
Jins LS + JF takes out basically everything ;)

Please explain. I heard Jin was broken and all but I need details.

Jin isn't broken, just very very very good in the right hands.

Jin is probably the only character that has no counter character that can beat him easily. Closes thing is Steve and Hwoarang. JF LS is escapible by side stepping to ur characters right. Launch 1,2,3, d+4 is easy damage. 2,1 is his very hard to get out of (espcieally if they 2,1 many times in a row) if that jin player is good. u can duck the first hit but if that jin player is smart and is quick, he can LS when u duck. tech rolling againt jin is a free LS. low parry with jin, d+3+4 is grantee after. His regular parry (B+2+4) is pretty quick also.

You shouldn't follow the arcadia rankings, they're pretty old and very different to U.S. and Korean rankings. In the U.S. Jin, Steve, and Paul are considered top tier. I can't comfirmed this but i read that in korean rankings, it's Jin, Hwoarang, some other characters. I heard the koreans ranked Law pretty high though.

Burning Kyo

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"Re(7):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Fri 27 Sep 03:53

quote:
Jins LS + JF takes out basically everything ;)

Please explain. I heard Jin was broken and all but I need details.

Jin isn't broken, just very very very good in the right hands.

Jin is probably the only character that has no counter character that can beat him easily. Closes thing is Steve and Hwoarang. JF LS is escapible by side stepping to ur characters right. Launch 1,2,3, d+4 is easy damage. 2,1 is his very hard to get out of (espcieally if they 2,1 many times in a row) if that jin player is good. u can duck the first hit but if that jin player is smart and is quick, he can LS when u duck. tech rolling againt jin is a free LS. low parry with jin, d+3+4 is grantee after. His regular parry (B+2+4) is pretty quick also.

You shouldn't follow the arcadia rankings, they're pretty old and very different to U.S. and Korean rankings. In the U.S. Jin, Steve, and Paul are considered top tier. I can't comfirmed this but i read that in korean rankings, it's Jin, Hwoarang, some other characters. I heard the koreans ranked Law pretty high though.

Yep, Jin rules !

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ChunliFan

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"Re(8):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Sun 29 Sep 12:56

I just wanted to go on and say that this game rocks! Julia is great! Paul is just awesome especially with his hair down.

Shin ATproof

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"Re(9):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Mon 30 Sep 00:02

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I just wanted to go on and say that this game rocks! Julia is great! Paul is just awesome especially with his hair down.

Paul with his hair down looks like MOTWs Terry Bogard....seriously...my friend who has never played a Tekken game in his life until T4 when he picked Paul he shouted out "Are you okay? Buster Wolf!" LOL.

Fro Boy11

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"Re(10):Tekken 4. Is it worth it?" , posted Mon 30 Sep 00:12

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I just wanted to go on and say that this game rocks! Julia is great! Paul is just awesome especially with his hair down.

Paul with his hair down looks like MOTWs Terry Bogard....seriously...my friend who has never played a Tekken game in his life until T4 when he picked Paul he shouted out "Are you okay? Buster Wolf!" LOL.

He does! Imagine Paul with Lei's jacket and blue jeans. Terry Bogard.

Gojira

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"Die Jin." , posted Mon 30 Sep 03:12

Jin must die. I can't stand him in Tekken 4. He's different from how he was before, but he's still way too good.

Lee's a damn freak too, especially if he can get someone near a wall. 4,4,4... that's all you need off a wall hit for ridiculous damage.

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