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Rid Hershel

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"Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Sun 22 Sep 17:53

I was talking about this with a friend, I would like to see your opinions. It's not a SF3 vs GGX poll, I'm talking generally about 2D fighters.

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Genjuro
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"Re(1):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Sun 22 Sep 18:16

quote:
I was talking about this with a friend, I would like to see your opinions. It's not a SF3 vs GGX poll, I'm talking generally about 2D fighters.

Poll

It always depends on the game I guess..I like both SF3rd strie and GG for instance..The reason I've played more SF than GGX is the fact that it's gameplay suits more to me..it's more enjoyable in the versus mode for me..The animation or resolution in a fighting game is an essential part of the game itself,you can't figure out how a game would have been if it had better res. or worse animation for example..It would be a totally different game..that's why I can' really vote on a simple poll like this..of course,the graphics should always be above average and the animation at least decent..that's a given..

"What a waste... ...of time..."

whitesword

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"Re(1):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Sun 22 Sep 18:50

Pitfall is shiny!

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kaepora
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"A tough decision..." , posted Sun 22 Sep 23:16

Silky-smooth animation is great, but I like details just a little more. Y'know, if push comes to shove.

Thinking about it, I loved Street Fighter III for it's fluid animation and I loved Guilty Gear X for it's resolution. However, I hated the resolution in SFIII while I feel rather indifferent about the animation in GGX. I think that's what influenced my vote.

RugalBernstein

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"Re(1):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Sun 22 Sep 23:23

You can probably guess how I feel. ^_^

Hagen de Merak
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"Re(1):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Sun 22 Sep 23:29

quote:
I was talking about this with a friend, I would like to see your opinions. It's not a SF3 vs GGX poll, I'm talking generally about 2D fighters.

Poll

i vote for impressive animation and high resolution

CPSIII
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"Re(2):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Sun 22 Sep 23:41

quote:
The animation or resolution in a fighting game is an essential part of the game itself

True but animation quality effects the gameplay, resolution does not. So IMO animation is more important and personally I prefer a well animated game over a game with great resolution but noting else anytime.

exodus
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"Re(3):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Mon 23 Sep 00:28

quote:
The animation or resolution in a fighting game is an essential part of the game itself

hmmm...I've never experienced animation as any kind of factor in a game, other than increasing/decreasing slowdown, and this is no longer an issue with the current crop of systems.

Regardless, I myself prefer high quality animation to resolution. And as a side note, I don't really like guilty gear!

Gojira

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"Re(1):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Mon 23 Sep 02:36

Well I prefer animation myself.

Making a decent number of hi-res sprites is still a lot more work than making a buttload of low-res ones, though.

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Time Mage

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"Re(1):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Mon 23 Sep 03:48

Well, since there isn't an option for SF3 animation AND GGX resolution, I've voted animation better than resolution, and here's my two main reasons:

1) I usually play in a 14" TV, so the hi-res of the games is not easily appreciated. Animation, however, can be appreciated in any TV, so that's one point for animation.

2) I'm a SF3 freak! This is important because, even when I like GGX, I'm not very good at it, and also play it a lot less than 3rd Strike, which lately I play everyday. So, I'm biased to SF3, and therefore, animation.

BTW, Gojira, I think it's easiest to make less hi-res sprites than to make more low-res ones.

Gatotsu Zeroshiki!

Red
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"Re(2):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Mon 23 Sep 04:18

like cpsIII says, i think animation affects the gameplay as well. and capcom has never made a sf/etc game with good looking resolutions anywhow, i dont think (backgrounds ala cvs2 dont count ;P)

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Rid Hershel

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"Re(3):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Mon 23 Sep 10:28

Personally, I think that animation adds more to a character than resolution.

Satoshi_Miwa

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"Re(4):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Mon 23 Sep 10:41

Since my TV is in the stone age, and I don't have a VGA box, I voted animation over resolution. Having the characters animate well just adds more to them then a sharper, clearer picture IMHO....

However I'd love for the two to meet at some point in the future. A high resloution game with excellent animation would just be beautifull to look at.

Toxico

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"Re(5):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Mon 23 Sep 11:10

I am still traped playing NES when I got at my hand (on a friend's house) a PS2.

You do the math (I don't care)

Shin ATproof

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"Re(6):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Tue 24 Sep 13:10

Gotta hand it to 3rdStrike it has some of the most if not the most fluid animation in 2D fighter. However GGXX is beautiful...it's got a ton of great animation not as fluid as 3rdStrike but to me it matters not because the sprites, moves and backgrounds are absolutely stunning...so to me I have to say hi res.

Genjuro
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"Re(3):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Tue 24 Sep 14:25

quote:
The animation or resolution in a fighting game is an essential part of the game itself

True but animation quality effects the gameplay, resolution does not. So IMO animation is more important and personally I prefer a well animated game over a game with great resolution but noting else anytime.

I'm not talking just about gameplay but the overall 'feel' of the game..you know..take for instance KOF..how it looks(and feels) is a given.you can't argue to change that..(even if a new member even mentioned it would be better for capcom to have the rights for KOF...*at this time I'd like to apologize to everyone for 'inviting'
"kabamaru" to the cafe'..-you will experience many sad things from him but mostly anger and hate..you could always ban him though..

"What a waste... ...of time..."

talbaineric

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"Re(1):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Tue 24 Sep 14:42

Gotta have good animation,I'd also like it hi-res,too.

Gen

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"Re(1):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Tue 24 Sep 17:08

quote:
I was talking about this with a friend, I would like to see your opinions. It's not a SF3 vs GGX poll, I'm talking generally about 2D fighters.

Poll

For 2 D new fighting games I'd like high res and high animation amounts. But the way things are going it may not happen. All the 2D makers will either switch to 3D of just make games for portable systems. 3D rendering, face generators, etc. software will replace real artists.

I'm sure most of the people here are part of the nitche of 2D supporters due to this sites emphasis on Capcom and SNK fighters. Capcom's latest is 3D though... SNK might have lots of background details, but KF2001-2002 look like low effort to me.

Maybe teams like the Guilty Gear makers will do something special for their next game title?

Dr Baghead

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"Re(1):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Tue 24 Sep 20:11

quote:
I was talking about this with a friend, I would like to see your opinions. It's not a SF3 vs GGX poll, I'm talking generally about 2D fighters.

Poll

I got tired of SF3 and GGX after a few weeks because no one would play with me and one player mode got dull...

But with the new e-Card Reader on the GBA I've been playing the hell out of games like Donkey Kong Jr. just trying to get a high-score...

so I don't care about graphics so long as the game has replay after 2 weeks...

Mozex
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"Re(1):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Sat 28 Sep 08:47

The resolution doesn't bother me as long as everything is the same, but when you put old cps2 sprites over a 3d background things start looking ugly.

The more animation a game has the happier I am.

Be kind to goblins.

tweleve
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"Re(2):Animation vs Resolution: The Poll" , posted Sun 29 Sep 13:30

Guilty Gear X looked great in pictures but it was disappointing to see it moving for the first time.

ALTHOUGH that may have something to do with the way Guilty Gear X moves - kind of sloppy with hits going through the opponent instead of easy-to-see flashes like in Street Fighter games. Not to mention the mostly static backgrounds. Hi-res in the hands of Capcom or SNK would be much better.

Dreamcast's VGA mode also reflects badly on normal-res 2D games and makes them look worse than they really are. What if SEGA didn't bother to include VGA mode? Then you wouldn't see as much difference between GGX and other games.

Anyway, what the hell kind of discussion in this? In a few years time 640x480 might be considered low-res and 800x600 or even 1024x768 will be the standard. And we'll have all this along with blinding animation! So "hi-res" and "low-res" mean very little and are only relative to the current technology.

I still voted though, for High Animation. It does make a difference to the "feel" of the game. Although hi-res makes a difference too because, think about it, if you double the resolution you also double the number of hitboxes, right? So the game is twice as precise as before. And Capcom or SNK haven't used this yet? Gah!

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