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Burning Kyo

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"Tekken4 Question : What's "Just Frame" ?" , posted Sat 21 Sep 13:17

I don't understand what's "Just Frame"

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Dragon-warrior

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"Re(1):Tekken4 Question : What's" , posted Sat 21 Sep 13:36:

quote:
I don't understand what's "Just Frame"

hmm well I am not sure but as I think:
when you do Jin's

RP LP RP (the three hit combo)
jin can charge it right? if you fully charge it and some effect will show up, it will be unblockable right?
there is a timing if you charge it for just a little time and before the effects start to show up if you release the button jin will do his normal move

RP LP RP but also unbloclkable! that called just frame!

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[this message was edited by Dragon-warrior on Sat 21 Sep 13:41]

Burning Kyo

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"Re(2):Tekken4 Question : What's" , posted Sat 21 Sep 13:44

quote:
I don't understand what's "Just Frame"
hmm well I am not sure but as I think:
when you do Jin's RP LP RP (the three hit combo)
jin can charge it right? if you fully charge it and some effect will show up, it will be unblockable right?
there is a timing if you charge it for just a little time and before the effects start to show up if you release the button jin will do his normal move RP LP RP but also unbloclkable! that called just frame!

Yep, I know that.

But for the other characters ?
like the 1,3(JF) 3(JF) 3 with Lee ?

PS : 1 = LP ; 3 = LK

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Dragon-warrior

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"Re(3):Tekken4 Question : What's" , posted Sat 21 Sep 13:47

hmmm sorry I am not a tekken fan at all.

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Burning Kyo

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"Re(4):Tekken4 Question : What's" , posted Sat 21 Sep 15:13

quote:
hmmm sorry I am not a tekken fan at all.

(T_T)

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Gojira

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"Re(5):Tekken4 Question : What's" , posted Sat 21 Sep 15:58

Just Frame is a 1-frame attack.

For instance, Paul has the following JF:
d+1,4,2, 1(JF)

The last hit of that string can only be done within one frame. It only comes out if you press 1 EXACTLY when the 2 hits. If you press the 1 too early or too late, nothing will happen. Understand?

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"Re(6):Tekken4 Question : What's" , posted Sat 21 Sep 19:10

On the subject of tekken 4, anyone have this game in the UK on their ps2?

Im curious if the PAL release of tekken 4 has been slown down.

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Toxico

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"Re(7):Tekken4 Question : What's" , posted Sat 21 Sep 20:18

quote:
On the subject of tekken 4, anyone have this game in the UK on their ps2?

Im curious if the PAL release of tekken 4 has been slown down.

The_Droogo owns the PAL version of the game, he told me that he saw nothing wrong with it (he plays the game at the arcade and on the PS2)

As monsieur Gojira said, just frame are precition moves that need an especific timming to be performed; an easier example is Lee b + 1, 1, 2 ; if you perform it by tapping madly the move will leave the enemy standing and it will only connect on counter hit, but if you do b + 1: 1, 2 the move will connect always, will knock down the enemy and if blocked will leave you safe, to perform the just frame version you need to delay the attack to the latest moment (on this case).

Just frames are not that tough to master, the one mentioned before I got it at 100%, the f + 3

3 I get it on like 50% chance and the b + 3~3:4 I get it at 40% chance.

Remeber that : is just frame and that ~ means tapping quickly.

Iron D

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"Re(8):Tekken4 Question : What's" , posted Sat 21 Sep 22:51

I never had a full understanding of Just Frames (Tekkenzaibatsu's description was kinda complex), however I now know what it's all about. I guess the whole Just Frame thing is what's behind the different versions of Heihachi's f,d,df-2?

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Burning Kyo

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"Re(8):Tekken4 Question : What's" , posted Sun 22 Sep 06:12:

quote:
On the subject of tekken 4, anyone have this game in the UK on their ps2?
Im curious if the PAL release of tekken 4 has been slown down.
The_Droogo owns the PAL version of the game, he told me that he saw nothing wrong with it (he plays the game at the arcade and on the PS2)
As monsieur Gojira said, just frame are precition moves that need an especific timming to be performed; an easier example is Lee b + 1, 1, 2 ; if you perform it by tapping madly the move will leave the enemy standing and it will only connect on counter hit, but if you do b + 1: 1, 2 the move will connect always, will knock down the enemy and if blocked will leave you safe, to perform the just frame version you need to delay the attack to the latest moment (on this case).
Just frames are not that tough to master, the one mentioned before I got it at 100%, the f + 3 :3 :3 I get it on like 50% chance and the b + 3~3:4 I get it at 40% chance.
Remeber that : is just frame and that ~ means tapping quickly.

How you can know the timing for the Just Frame ?
'Cause sometimes it's ealier (Gojira exemple), sometimes it's later (Toxico's Lee exemple).

PS : Thx everyone ! (^_^)
'n I have the PS2 French version of Tekken 4

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[this message was edited by Burning Kyo on Sun 22 Sep 06:13]

Gojira

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"Re(9):Tekken4 Question : What's" , posted Sun 22 Sep 13:42

quote:

How you can know the timing for the Just Frame ?
'Cause sometimes it's ealier (Gojira exemple), sometimes it's later (Toxico's Lee exemple).

Honestly, all you can do is try to get a feel for it yourself. If that's too hard then at Tekken Zaibatsu (www.tekkenzaibatsu.com) there are some short videos of various JF's with sound in them that might give you an idea of the button timing. You need to have Ironsilk membership to get them, but that's free anyway.

Good luck!

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Toxico

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"Important & Stupid Question about PAL version" , posted Sun 22 Sep 17:03

I have been told that PAL versions can't be seing outside Europe due to the resolution they use... Is that so??

This is important, since in a far off future The_Droogo might bring his PAL PS2 to southamerica, and it would be the worst thing if he could not play it because of that.

Feedback anyone??

Rid Hershel

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"Re(1):Important & Stupid Question about PAL v" , posted Sun 22 Sep 17:18

There are some adaptors for that. They're expensive and you'll end losing quality... unless you have a tv that supports the european pal norm.

Time Mage

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"Re(2):Important & Stupid Question about PAL v" , posted Mon 23 Sep 05:31

quote:
There are some adaptors for that. They're expensive and you'll end losing quality... unless you have a tv that supports the european pal norm.

Yeah, that's right, but the worst part is that In European consoles (PAL system) American and Japanese games DON'T work, so Droogo will need to mod his console in order to play non-PAL games...

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Toxico

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"Re(3):Important & Stupid Question about PAL v" , posted Mon 23 Sep 06:19

quote:
There are some adaptors for that. They're expensive and you'll end losing quality... unless you have a tv that supports the european pal norm.

Yeah, that's right, but the worst part is that In European consoles (PAL system) American and Japanese games DON'T work, so Droogo will need to mod his console in order to play non-PAL games...

I saw that coming... I guess that he should import the games when he comes back down here (few years away though); also he should bring a TV or something, I hope that my crappy "Diamond Head" VCR can catch up with the resolution... screw the Samsung Products ¬_¬

Time Mage

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"Re(4):Important & Stupid Question about PAL v" , posted Mon 23 Sep 09:26

quote:
There are some adaptors for that. They're expensive and you'll end losing quality... unless you have a tv that supports the european pal norm.

Yeah, that's right, but the worst part is that In European consoles (PAL system) American and Japanese games DON'T work, so Droogo will need to mod his console in order to play non-PAL games...

I saw that coming... I guess that he should import the games when he comes back down here (few years away though); also he should bring a TV or something, I hope that my crappy "Diamond Head" VCR can catch up with the resolution... screw the Samsung Products ¬_¬

I think it will be better if he can mod his PS2 there. It can be pricy or not so, depending on whether he does that. That way all the compatibility issues will be resolved. He will be able to see the games in a NTSC TV, and will be able to play non-PAL games.

Gatotsu Zeroshiki!