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"King will not be in KoF 2k2, someone must die" , posted Sat 14 Sep 22:10post reply


Is anyone else here really pissed that King is out of KoF 2k2 and replaced by that newby Meili ?

I don't know about you, but for a Dream Match, I think that the essential characters like King should be there. They bother bringing back dead characters but they scratch out one of my best fighter, that's just plain wrong.

Don't suppose it would be to late to bomb the producers with e-mails from many KoF fans about that?






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"Re(1):We'll see her again ..." , posted Sun 15 Sep 14:18post reply


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Is anyone else here really pissed that King is out of KoF 2k2 and replaced by that newby Meili ?

I don't know about you, but for a Dream Match, I think that the essential characters like King should be there. They bother bringing back dead characters but they scratch out one of my best fighter, that's just plain wrong.

Don't suppose it would be to late to bomb the producers with e-mails from many KoF fans about that?



Yeah,taking off King wasn't definitely the best thing they could do . I guess it happened because King changes her outfit every two years (have you noticed it ?),and this year she should get a new outfit . I think that Eolith wouldn't want to redraw her (as for Athena,they NEEDED to give her a new look,since her '2001 one was hated by most of the KoF fans),so they just cut her off (as for Mai and Yuri,they are SNK's sex-symbols,while Mei-Li is Eolith's triumph) .
But don't worry,she will probably be back in '2003 (when Eolith sees that people WANT her back) . Also,she's in one of the backgrounds (maybe taking some deserved vacations) .





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"Re(2):We'll see her again ..." , posted Sun 15 Sep 14:30post reply


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Is anyone else here really pissed that King is out of KoF 2k2 and replaced by that newby Meili ?

I don't know about you, but for a Dream Match, I think that the essential characters like King should be there. They bother bringing back dead characters but they scratch out one of my best fighter, that's just plain wrong.

Don't suppose it would be to late to bomb the producers with e-mails from many KoF fans about that?


Yeah,taking off King wasn't definitely the best thing they could do . I guess it happened because King changes her outfit every two years (have you noticed it ?),and this year she should get a new outfit . I think that Eolith wouldn't want to redraw her (as for Athena,they NEEDED to give her a new look,since her '2001 one was hated by most of the KoF fans),so they just cut her off (as for Mai and Yuri,they are SNK's sex-symbols,while Mei-Li is Eolith's triumph) .
But don't worry,she will probably be back in '2003 (when Eolith sees that people WANT her back) . Also,she's in one of the backgrounds (maybe taking some deserved vacations) .



Ok, keep in mind this is just my idea. but if it were me, i would of done this to keep king and mai lee in 2002 :

first off, get rid of choi and chang, havent they served they're sentence yet? replace them with 2 serious fighters,mai lee and jhun hoon. then the vacancy in the womens team would be filled by king. i know alot of people like choi and chang ( i dont of any ), but seriously, would kim really want them as partners, or mai lee and jhun hoon? just my thoughts.





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"Re(3):We'll see her again ..." , posted Sun 15 Sep 14:35post reply


HEY! I like May Lee! She rocks! But I'm peeved King didn't make it. That sucks. She's one of my KOF faves!

Yes,they should get rid of Chang and Choi. I personally dislike them,and no one really likes them either.

They got rid of Bao and Shingo,though,so I'm happy.





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"Re(4):We'll see her again ..." , posted Sun 15 Sep 15:12post reply


i like chang and choi :D did ya know they were cool chang and cool choi when they were young?





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"Re(4):We'll see her again ..." , posted Sun 15 Sep 15:14post reply


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HEY! I like May Lee! She rocks! But I'm peeved King didn't make it. That sucks. She's one of my KOF faves!

Yes,they should get rid of Chang and Choi. I personally dislike them,and no one really likes them either.

They got rid of Bao and Shingo,though,so I'm happy.


yeah,she wasn't supposed to be left out..she's one of the characters I 'love to hate',if you know what I mean..Shingo should be in it too..BTW,legenday_trio are you on the zophar's domain board?I answered to your post..:)





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"Re(4):We'll see her again ..." , posted Sun 15 Sep 15:16:post reply


maylee is awesome char as well.





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"Re(1):King will not be in KoF 2k2, someone mu" , posted Sun 15 Sep 15:40post reply


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Is anyone else here really pissed that King is out of KoF 2k2 and replaced by that newby Meili ?


Gawd! Why does everyone blame May Lee for King's exclusion... Yuri is the one who bumped King from the women's team, the only characters May Lee is blocking are Kasumi, Li Xiangfei, and Hinako...

on aside note, I'd rather have Kim, Chang, and Choi be Korea team then ever see a team made up of Kim, Jhun, and May Lee





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"Re(2):King will not be in KoF 2k2, someone mu" , posted Sun 15 Sep 16:11post reply


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on a side note, I'd rather have Kim, Chang and Choi be Korea team then ever see a team made up of Kim, Jhun, and May Lee


god no!Chang&Choi should forever be reduced to kameo appereances!or include them in dream matches but please not on 'regular' kofs...





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"Re(3):King will not be in KoF 2k2, someone mu" , posted Sun 15 Sep 20:06post reply


I will miss King too...
She was my favourite character in 00 and 01





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"Re(1):King will not be in KoF 2k2, someone mu" , posted Sun 15 Sep 20:09post reply


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Is anyone else here really pissed that King is out of KoF 2k2 and replaced by that newby Meili ?

I don't know about you, but for a Dream Match, I think that the essential characters like King should be there. They bother bringing back dead characters but they scratch out one of my best fighter, that's just plain wrong.

Don't suppose it would be to late to bomb the producers with e-mails from many KoF fans about that?



o_O That's not fair. She kicked ass!





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"Finger pointing" , posted Sun 15 Sep 20:31post reply


Mei Li and Eolith maybe some to blame but I think there is a chance that her tick damage tactics may have gotten her voted out. I personally say that King should stay and Takuma should get an invisible Kamehahmeha into the next dimension. He really drags down the Kyokugens by being an amalgam and the decide to make him even more like Ryo??? Storywise he has little/no purpose. Takuma should only be in the Father/Oyaji team after this.





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"Re(1):Finger pointing" , posted Sun 15 Sep 21:08post reply


Im really POed that she's not in. The game could have been so much better if she was in imo. May Lee is awesome though.





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"Re(3):King will not be in KoF 2k2, someone mu" , posted Sun 15 Sep 21:14post reply


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god no!Chang&Choi should forever be reduced to kameo appereances!or include them in dream matches but please not on 'regular' kofs...


Chang and Choi own Jhun and May Lee for free.

Sure they aren't beautiful haired men or a girl only in the game because she's a Korean created by Koreans, but at least they're not TDK!

Now don't get me wrong, next to Muay Thai Tae Kwon Do is my favorite style to use in a game... but we already had a team made up of nothing but Kyoryugens, do we need an all TDK team now? I think not! Chang and Choi offer varrity and comic flare May and Jhun don't





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"Re(4):King will not be in KoF 2k2, someone mu" , posted Sun 15 Sep 22:14post reply


I do not mind them taking King out, I mean there are a few others characters who have been in EVERY KOF since 94 that should take a break for one year to make room for some other characters we haven't seen in a long time. I mean for example, Joe, I myself wouldn't mind seeing him gone for just 1 year to make room for Geese or Krauser, hell even Duck King. That is becoming the problem with KOF, the roster for the main teams does not change enough and in the end, you find that the differences between every kof sequel becomes smaller and smaller.





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"Re(4):We'll see her again ..." , posted Sun 15 Sep 23:24post reply


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They got rid of Bao and Shingo,though,so I'm happy.


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Sure, I can understand how people loathe Bao, although I don't dislike him half as much as people seem to do here. But... Shingo?? *sobs*

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"Re(5):We'll see her again ..." , posted Sun 15 Sep 23:42post reply


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I myself wouldn't mind seeing him gone for just 1 year to make room for Geese or Krauser


Yeah, Geese or Krauser on the same team as Terry and Andy. That'd work. ;)





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"Re(3):We'll see her again ..." , posted Mon 16 Sep 00:47post reply


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first off, get rid of choi and chang, havent they served they're sentence yet? replace them with 2 serious fighters,mai lee and jhun hoon. then the vacancy in the womens team would be filled by king. i know alot of people like choi and chang ( i dont of any ), but seriously, would kim really want them as partners, or mai lee and jhun hoon? just my thoughts.



I think they should have gotten rid of Takuma, or Robert, or Ryo, or maybe the 3 of them. I really don't see why they keep appearing in all that games, they are so... unoriginal.
my dreammatch would have had 3 girls team : Mai team, King Team and Yuri Team! let's say the youngest girls with Yuri (May Lee and Xian Fei), the japanese girls with Mai (Kasumi and Hinako) and the mature girls with King (Chizuru and Foxy, for example?)
Now THAT would have been variety.





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"Re(4):We'll see her again ..." , posted Mon 16 Sep 01:03:post reply


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I think they should have gotten rid of Takuma, or Robert, or Ryo, or maybe the 3 of them. I really don't see why they keep appearing in all that games, they are so... unoriginal.
my dreammatch would have had 3 girls team : Mai team, King Team and Yuri Team! let's say the youngest girls with Yuri (May Lee and Xian Fei), the japanese girls with Mai (Kasumi and Hinako) and the mature girls with King (Chizuru and Foxy, for example?)
Now THAT would have been variety.

i think they should just kill off the Garou and Kyokugen teams. i love them both to death, a lot more than most of the kof teams out there now, but they don't serve much to the main storyline and they keep coming up in each kof as losers. i mean, how the hell? they were undefeated champions in their own games and now they come here and suddenly lose? whatever. kill them off, save them the shame

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by "kill off," i mean take them out of the game. anyways, with them gone, you'll have more space to fit in other features, like more moves per character (people are always complaining about moves being taken out), or more music, more stages, even more characters that people are longing for





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"Re(5):We'll see her again ..." , posted Mon 16 Sep 01:22post reply


I feel your pain Double J. Shingo is one of my fave KoFers too.
This new Dream match seems to be, in my eyes, worse then 98 which is the worst KoF in my opinion. Dream match my ass...





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"Ore te shinpo ne~!!" , posted Mon 16 Sep 03:24post reply


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I feel your pain Double J. Shingo is one of my fave KoFers too.
This new Dream match seems to be, in my eyes, worse then 98 which is the worst KoF in my opinion. Dream match my ass...


Well, there's still hope. I still haven't heard either way about those rumors of Shingo popping in occasionally to challenge you. Anyone wanna' confirm or deny?





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"Re(4):King will not be in KoF 2k2, someone mu" , posted Mon 16 Sep 04:44post reply


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god no!Chang&Choi should forever be reduced to kameo appereances!or include them in dream matches but please not on 'regular' kofs...

Chang and Choi own Jhun and May Lee for free.

Sure they aren't beautiful haired men or a girl only in the game because she's a Korean created by Koreans, but at least they're not TDK!

Now don't get me wrong, next to Muay Thai Tae Kwon Do is my favorite style to use in a game... but we already had a team made up of nothing but Kyoryugens, do we need an all TDK team now? I think not! Chang and Choi offer varrity and comic flare May and Jhun don't


don't get me wrong..I don't like at all Jhun and May Lee..It just happens that I hate Chang&Choi..I think it's the result of innumerable losses from their team in KOF'94..their design&personality didn't help either..However I agree with you that they certainly add some comic flair..It's just that it'd be better to include them in dream matches as a tribute to old characters..





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"Re(5):King will not be in KoF 2k2, someone mu" , posted Mon 16 Sep 06:11post reply


Not everything is about of what I hate and what I like , in this time the only thing that you can do is to accept the lost with dignity.

No point on whining... I know that.





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"Re(1):Ore te shinpo ne~!!" , posted Mon 16 Sep 06:27post reply


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Well, there's still hope. I still haven't heard either way about those rumors of Shingo popping in occasionally to challenge you. Anyone wanna' confirm or deny?


Still no confirmation of this, but, hurray, the best character of KOF is back as a secret character for sure, and it's... Kyo with his old outfit!
It was really usefull to dump all these characters to have Kyo 95 back.





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"Re(2):Ore te shinpo ne~!!" , posted Mon 16 Sep 09:43post reply


I think the majority of players, including myself, love King and regret her deletion, but would also admit that May Lee plays great and is an original character. The two needed to be in the Dream Match.
The fact that King is a cameo chara in the background destroys every hope of playing her as a secret chara. Hopefully Playmore will release a data disk to play the left behind charaters! The name of the game: The King of Fighters 2002 Substance, as an XBOX exclusive (what a knightmare!)





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"Re(4):We'll see her again ..." , posted Mon 16 Sep 10:50:post reply


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They got rid of Bao and Shingo,though,so I'm happy.



>:(

And gawd, I swear.
Some people should get over the fact that King isn't in the game, YES, it is shocking, YES, it is unexcpected, but still, it's just a game, just because your favorite character isn't missing doesn't mean that the game will automatically suck. :/






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"Re(5):We'll see her again ..." , posted Mon 16 Sep 11:01post reply


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Some people should get over the fact that King isn't in the game, YES, it is shocking, YES, it is unexcpected, but still, it's just a game, just because your favorite character isn't missing doesn't mean that the game will automatically suck. :/


I think that's the worst part of it : the game seems to be great, with the best backgrounds in years, a (maybe) interesting system more balanced than the striker crap, NO STRIKERS... and we (well, at least I, since I seem to be the only Chizuru lover here, along with my King lover minions) won't be able to test our favorite characters with it....
I wouldn't have bitched that much about Chizuru, King and everyone else's disapearance if the game had been as crappy as KOF 2001, for instance.





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"Re(5):We'll see her again ..." , posted Mon 16 Sep 13:08post reply


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And gawd, I swear.
Some people should get over the fact that King isn't in the game, YES, it is shocking, YES, it is unexcpected, but still, it's just a game, just because your favorite character isn't missing doesn't mean that the game will automatically suck. :/



No kidding! If I had 100 bucks for every complaint about King's absence, I'd be the richest bastard on the planet!

Had it been one of the other AOF characters no one would have lost any sleep. But removing King was such a crime!

As for being shocking, not really. I knew one of the AOF characters would have been bumped (Always happened in the past.), but I'm amazed if was the queen of tick damage for a change.

Still have way too many FF characters though (When was the last KOF game where the FF & AOF roster consisted of an even number of characters anyway? KOF 95?!) and they add more (So typical.).

Personally, I'm looking forward to a year without the Double Strike abuse. Among other things.





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"Re(6):We'll see her again ..." , posted Mon 16 Sep 16:34post reply


No King or Shingo in KoF 2k2?

Eeeeeeeeeexcellent!





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"Re(2):Ore te shinpo ne~!!" , posted Mon 16 Sep 17:56post reply


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Still no confirmation of this, but, hurray, the best character of KOF is back as a secret character for sure, and it's... Kyo with his old outfit!
It was really usefull to dump all these characters to have Kyo 95 back.


You're kidding? They wasted space on those useless sprites while ditching other original characters? Geez, now I _really_ hope Shingo's in there, or Eolith's got some 'splaining to do.





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"Re(3):Ore te shinpo ne~!!" , posted Mon 16 Sep 18:04post reply


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Still no confirmation of this, but, hurray, the best character of KOF is back as a secret character for sure, and it's... Kyo with his old outfit!
It was really usefull to dump all these characters to have Kyo 95 back.

You're kidding? They wasted space on those useless sprites while ditching other original characters? Geez, now I _really_ hope Shingo's in there, or Eolith's got some 'splaining to do.


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"Re(6):We'll see her again ..." , posted Mon 16 Sep 18:25post reply


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And gawd, I swear.
Some people should get over the fact that King isn't in the game, YES, it is shocking, YES, it is unexcpected, but still, it's just a game, just because your favorite character isn't missing doesn't mean that the game will automatically suck. :/


No kidding! If I had 100 bucks for every complaint about King's absence, I'd be the richest bastard on the planet!

Had it been one of the other AOF characters no one would have lost any sleep. But removing King was such a crime!

As for being shocking, not really. I knew one of the AOF characters would have been bumped (Always happened in the past.), but I'm amazed if was the queen of tick damage for a change.

Still have way too many FF characters though (When was the last KOF game where the FF & AOF roster consisted of an even number of characters anyway? KOF 95?!) and they add more (So typical.).

Personally, I'm looking forward to a year without the Double Strike abuse. Among other things.



No, I would've been just as upset if Ryo, Robert, or Yuri were missing (not Takuma, because he has been missing from KoFs before). I'd also be upset if other characters who'd never been left out were left out. I don't blame May Lee though, and I'll miss Bao. Stop the hate!






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"Re(1):King will not be in KoF 2k2, someone mu" , posted Mon 16 Sep 18:26post reply


Well, they could've saved King by introducing a Women's team 2 (Composing King/Chizuru/Kasumi or Xiangfei or Hinako).





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"Re(5):We'll see her again ..." , posted Mon 16 Sep 21:54post reply


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I think they should have gotten rid of Takuma, or Robert, or Ryo, or maybe the 3 of them. I really don't see why they keep appearing in all that games, they are so... unoriginal.
my dreammatch would have had 3 girls team : Mai team, King Team and Yuri Team! let's say the youngest girls with Yuri (May Lee and Xian Fei), the japanese girls with Mai (Kasumi and Hinako) and the mature girls with King (Chizuru and Foxy, for example?)
Now THAT would have been variety.
i think they should just kill off the Garou and Kyokugen teams. i love them both to death, a lot more than most of the kof teams out there now, but they don't serve much to the main storyline and they keep coming up in each kof as losers. i mean, how the hell? they were undefeated champions in their own games and now they come here and suddenly lose? whatever. kill them off, save them the shame

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by "kill off," i mean take them out of the game. anyways, with them gone, you'll have more space to fit in other features, like more moves per character (people are always complaining about moves being taken out), or more music, more stages, even more characters that people are longing for



yeah, i think they should do this, keep them in their own games, fatal fury and art of fighting. they dont serve much purpose to the storyline in KOF anyways. the way i see it they are just make "guest apperances" in KOF. because i dont really see how these teams would actually lose in one of those tournaments.





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"Re(6):We'll see her again ..." , posted Mon 16 Sep 22:23post reply


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because i dont really see how these teams would actually lose in one of those tournaments.

The way I see it, KOF is on a " different scale " . The villains are tougher, etc... So the Fatal Fury and AOF heroes might not be quite as strong in KOF as they seem in their own game series.





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"Re(7):We'll see her again ..." , posted Mon 16 Sep 22:58post reply


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The way I see it, KOF is on a " different scale " . The villains are tougher, etc... So the Fatal Fury and AOF heroes might not be quite as strong in KOF as they seem in their own game series.

like Igniz?
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"Re(3):Ore te shinpo ne~!!" , posted Tue 17 Sep 01:57post reply


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Still no confirmation of this, but, hurray, the best character of KOF is back as a secret character for sure, and it's... Kyo with his old outfit!
It was really usefull to dump all these characters to have Kyo 95 back.
You're kidding?


Yes, i'm kidding : in fact, that doesn't make me happy.





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"Code to select Kyo '95 in 2k2 !" , posted Tue 17 Sep 04:58:post reply


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Still no confirmation of this, but, hurray, the best character of KOF is back as a secret character for sure, and it's... Kyo with his old outfit!
It was really usefull to dump all these characters to have Kyo 95 back.



Yep,he's really back ! His name in the game is "Kusanagi"
He's his movelist from '95 + his MuShiki hidden SDM \(^o^)/
I hope the fireball is as fast as in '95 !

This is the code to select Kusanagi :
On the Character Select Screen, place your cursor on Kyo. Then do 6, 8, 6, 8, 6, 2, 6, 2, 6, 2, 2, 4, 2, 4, 2, 4, 8, 4, 8, 4. Your cursor should now be on Iori.
Then press 8.
This is the sequence of characters you will pass through : Kyo Benimaru Andy Joe Whip Ryo Athena Kensou Yuri May Lee Chris Billy Blue Mary Chang Kim Kula Ramon Clark Ralf Mature Iori Kyo.

Diagramm of the "how to select"

source : KOFonline
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"Re(1):Code to select Kyo '95 in 2k2 !" , posted Tue 17 Sep 10:27post reply


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Yep,he's really back ! His name in the game is "Kusanagi"
He's his movelist from '95 + his MuShiki hidden SDM \(^o^)/
I hope the fireball is as fast as in '95 !
This is the code to select Kusanagi :
On the Character Select Screen, place your cursor on Kyo. Then do 6, 8, 6, 8, 6, 2, 6, 2, 6, 2, 2, 4, 2, 4, 2, 4, 8, 4, 8, 4. Your cursor should now be on Iori.
Then press 8.
This is the sequence of characters you will pass through : Kyo Benimaru Andy Joe Whip Ryo Athena Kensou Yuri May Lee Chris Billy Blue Mary Chang Kim Kula Ramon Clark Ralf Mature Iori Kyo.
Diagramm of the "how to select"
source : KOFonline
Thx Vincent Chua !




I'm the only guy to be happy about Kyo '95 'n the MuShiki SDM return ? (^_^')






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"Re(2):Code to select Kyo '95 in 2k2 !" , posted Tue 17 Sep 10:48post reply


I wonder if anyone else is hidden?





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"Re(3):Code to select Kyo '95 in 2k2 !" , posted Tue 17 Sep 10:56post reply


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I wonder if anyone else is hidden?



Maybe the 2 other Kyo's clone ? LL






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"Re(7):We'll see her again ..." , posted Tue 17 Sep 11:12post reply


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...I'll miss Bao. Stop the hate!


BAO...MUST...DIE!!!!
(right magus?)





"What a waste... ...of time..."

YeldellGW
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"Re(7):We'll see her again ..." , posted Tue 17 Sep 13:58post reply


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No, I would've been just as upset if Ryo, Robert, or Yuri were missing (not Takuma, because he has been missing from KoFs before). I'd also be upset if other characters who'd never been left out were left out. I don't blame May Lee though, and I'll miss Bao. Stop the hate!



It's not hate. More like annoyance.

I've had my share of favorites that have come and gone; most of which haven't had more than 1 or 2 appearances. I like Takuma but didn't whine about him being absent in KOF 96. I sucked it up and learned someone else. I did the same when Mature and Vice got killed off for KOF 97.

Daimon's been in KOF since the beginning and yet I didn't find topics all over the net making a fuss about him being gone in KOF 99.

There's no rule saying a character that's made so many appearances can't be dumped at any given time. Something most apparently can't comphrehend.

Guess, I'm more prepared to accept a dramatic roster change than most.





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"Re(8):We'll see her again ..." , posted Tue 17 Sep 15:00post reply


I agree, who wants to see the same fighters over and over again each year, mix things up abit.





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"Re(9):We'll see her again ..." , posted Tue 17 Sep 15:19post reply


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I agree, who wants to see the same fighters over and over again each year, mix things up abit.



so true. taking out chars can have other ppl learn other chars.