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| Gen 672th Post
 
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|  "Comics, Marvel, Cabel"
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Ultimate X-Men is part of the "Ultimate" Marvel Universe. This universe includes other books, sucha s Ultimate Spider-man and The Ultimates.
The other x-men books you mentioned are all in the same continuity- the regular, old Marvel Universe continuity. They may not seem like they are in the same continuity, but they are. Its just that lately, each book tries to be self-contained. Crossovers no longer happen, but characters from one book occasoinally appear in another book. But each book has a distinctive cast that their respective writer focus's on. New X-Mena nd Uncanny seem to share Xavier, but that's it. The other X-Men pop in and out of the books where they are not regular cast members though. X-Treme X-Men is doing their own thing, so they hardly communicate with anyone.
You might wonder why Marvel is publishing books in two continuities, the "Ultimate" continuity and the same, old, Marvel continuity. The reason Marvel made the Ultimate books, and thus the "Ultimate" continuity was to bring in new readers. The Ultimate books are easier to pick up and read without prior knowledge of past events or histories. I think its working out alright. I get books from both sets of continuities. I only stop getting books if I don't like the writer or the direction of the book. I don't get X-Treme cause I don't like Claremont's writing style. And stopped getting Uncanny cause Casey was doing a poor job with his stories.
Go read X-Statix. Go buy comic books. If you're not, then you really are missing out on something good. Comics have really come a long way in terms of quality artwork and storytelling. If you like a certain genre and want to pick up a good book, let me know and I can probably recommend you a good book. "
Thanks Luisinan. Sounds like they are slowly learning? The industry over did it with cross overs some years ago. That's a good idea, let the different teams have their own areas so they don't trudge on other team's stories.
"Go read X-Statix. Go buy comic books. If you're not, then you really are missing out on something good. Comics have really come a long way in terms of quality artwork and storytelling. If you like a certain genre and want to pick up a good book, let me know and I can probably recommend you a good book.
I got an issue of New X men, I think they're attempts to make a more realistic story of mutants detracted from the entertainment value.
I read Ultimate Spiderman and Ultimate X-men in the store. They were sub. I think I wouldn't like them even if I had no familiarity with any of the characters. Why can't Spiderman be more of a cool guy?
I read the issues of Cable that are on Marvel.com. I actually wanted to check out more Cable work by the same team.
Really I wanted to know the rest of the New X-men story also but not quite enough to pay for more issues of it. I might pick up the trade paper back for Cable.
I think I'd be impressed with high maturity levels in any aspect of comic making. Any comics you know come to mind? Maturity being like adult-ness, and unchildishness, but not necessarily "rated R" and up, or violence and gore. Ya know what I mean? I'm not all anti violence and gore either though, they can be entertainment when done right in fiction.
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| Hungrywolf 1512th Post
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|  "Re(1):Comics, Marvel, Cabel"
, posted Tue 17 Sep 15:50
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Ultimate X-Men is part of the "Ultimate" Marvel Universe. This universe includes other books, sucha s Ultimate Spider-man and The Ultimates.
The other x-men books you mentioned are all in the same continuity- the regular, old Marvel Universe continuity. They may not seem like they are in the same continuity, but they are. Its just that lately, each book tries to be self-contained. Crossovers no longer happen, but characters from one book occasoinally appear in another book. But each book has a distinctive cast that their respective writer focus's on. New X-Mena nd Uncanny seem to share Xavier, but that's it. The other X-Men pop in and out of the books where they are not regular cast members though. X-Treme X-Men is doing their own thing, so they hardly communicate with anyone.
You might wonder why Marvel is publishing books in two continuities, the "Ultimate" continuity and the same, old, Marvel continuity. The reason Marvel made the Ultimate books, and thus the "Ultimate" continuity was to bring in new readers. The Ultimate books are easier to pick up and read without prior knowledge of past events or histories. I think its working out alright. I get books from both sets of continuities. I only stop getting books if I don't like the writer or the direction of the book. I don't get X-Treme cause I don't like Claremont's writing style. And stopped getting Uncanny cause Casey was doing a poor job with his stories.
Go read X-Statix. Go buy comic books. If you're not, then you really are missing out on something good. Comics have really come a long way in terms of quality artwork and storytelling. If you like a certain genre and want to pick up a good book, let me know and I can probably recommend you a good book. "
Thanks Luisinan. Sounds like they are slowly learning? The industry over did it with cross overs some years ago. That's a good idea, let the different teams have their own areas so they don't trudge on other team's stories.
"Go read X-Statix. Go buy comic books. If you're not, then you really are missing out on something good. Comics have really come a long way in terms of quality artwork and storytelling. If you like a certain genre and want to pick up a good book, let me know and I can probably recommend you a good book.
I got an issue of New X men, I think they're attempts to make a more realistic story of mutants detracted from the entertainment value.
I read Ultimate Spiderman and Ultimate X-men in the store. They were sub. I think I wouldn't like them even if I had no familiarity with any of the characters. Why can't Spiderman be more of a cool guy?
I read the issues of Cable that are on Marvel.com. I actually wanted to check out more Cable work by the same ream.
Really I wanted to know the rest of the New X-men story also but not quite enough to pay for more issues of it. I might pick up the trade paper back for Cable.
I think I'd be impressed with high maturity levels in any aspect of comic making. Any comics you know come to mind? Maturity being like adult-ness, and unchildishness, but not necessarily "rated R" and up, or violence and gore. Ya know what I mean? I'm not all anti violence and gore either though, they can be entertainment when done right in fiction.
I hate New X-men because it's not like a comic book. I really don't like the writer. The only thing he and I have in common is that his favorite X-man is Cyclops and so is mine, but he sure has a funny way of showing it. I like Uncanny X-men and Xtreme X-men though, they are both good books, now here is a spoiler for you.
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Havoc is back in the regular timeline again! Also, Angel's skin is white again (as of the most recent uncanny that I picked up today!). I'm glad, he's back to his old self!
End of Spoiler
"Someday we'll find it the rainbow connection..." -Kermit The Muppet Movie
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| Luisinan
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| "Re(2):Comics, Marvel, Cabel" , posted Wed 18 Sep 23:02
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Luisinan? Anyone?
Wow, someone remembers me! Feels good!
Anyway, I kind of feel the same way you feel Gen. So here is just some overall feelings I have about the x-men books and some ultimate books.
New X-Men. Hmmm. Its more realistic and I like that. Right now its in a transition stage, between major storylines. Morrison is a good writer, he has big ideas and is very subtle with hinting his surprises. But sometimes his ideas don't make sense (last issue with Magneto recording the end of Genosha) or he writes a great story but ends it in a anti-climactic way (every long storyline so far.) On the plus side he invented the X-Corporation which is basically a mutant rescue team composed of forgotten characters. He also uses a lot of characters and writes them all very well. He has some good ideas about characters. Overall, he is above average but with some serious flaws and serious good things. Stick with this book for a while. B grade.
Uncanny X-Men. Hmm, the new writer did not impress me with his 3 part Hope storyline. The story was very generic. On the plus side his characters were done great. This last issue had a lot of interesting character bits. Its too early to tell if his run will be bad, but his characterization is great. Keep reading him, unless he does another really bad generic villain plot. B grade.
Ultimate X-Men. Big Explosion, small characterization. I read this because its fun but the characterization is weak. The stories are fun, you get a lot of action, suspsense, suprises, all the goodies. But weak characters. If you like rollercoasters and hate soap operas, go with this. B grade.
The Ultimates. Great characterization, but smaller, cheaper explosions. The Ultimates versus Hulk issue was actually a bit boring. Not that boring. As long as the characters keep developing this book will be alright. But like I said, cheaper explosions. They've only fought one villain so maybe the next villain will have better action in it. B grade.
Cable is now Solider X. I like Cable but I have a hard time caring for the character or worrying about his future. He is sort of pointless now that Apocalypse is gone. The current writer is making me like the character because he writes fun stories and he's making the characters more believable and likeable. So far I like the book but I keep needing a reason to care for Cable. B grade.
Deadpool is now Agent X. THIS BOOK IS GREAT. When you read it, you feel like Deadpool/Agent X has a definite future. You care for Agent X. You laugh your butt off at the great jokes. The villains and friends are very loveable/hateable and its a great book. A++ grade. BUY IT!
X-Force is now X-Statix. This is the "What if the X-Men were movie stars" book. Basically that's it. If you want your generic superhero versus supervillain book, this is not it. Its about a group of mutants who are basically an artificially made superhero team. Their goal is to be popular and make money off their fans. I love this book, but you might not like the concept. It has GREAT writing. But Shakespeare was a great writer, don't mean you want to read his books. Same with this book. TRY IT OUT! A++ grade.
There you go. Sorry for the long post. Maybe I'll start reviewing books for the cafe.
Luis.
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