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| Muchiko
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|  "Re(3):I think the KOF2002 animation looks cho"
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"The animation in '02 is the most fluid of all KOF series."
I wouldn't go as far to call it the most fluid of all kof's either..
I'm pretty sure it's more fluid than '98 because characters like NFT have more frames in their stances and moves. And the neo-geo videos shown have only half of the framerate of the actual game; you can tell because the shadow was only visible in one of the character, and it wasn't blinking.
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It seems that the speed is very fast though compared to other kof's(perhaps to reduce the size of the cart??-less animations=less size).Also it looks like it will have a lot of bugs..(notice kim's super on angel-can't remember which video)
What's the bug with Kim's super? He just did his SDM in the air (which is air only) on Angel...
Kim has more frames in his animations, but the sprite itself isn't all that great; I didn't like his stance at all. Shermie on the other hand, has a lot of treatment and the sprites are awesome; plus she has new voices. I love her taunt... it's fucking long and naughty/realistic.
KOF2002 is definitely better than all other KOF's in terms of aesthetics: the animations, the backgrounds, the voices, the sound, the music. And if the character balance is as good as 2001, it's definitely the best KOF, unless there are game-breaking bugs of course.
The neo-geo.com videos are great, but I can't stand watching the player, who happens to play random teams (I wonder if full random still exist) and jump CD all day. And there was nothing new in there, not a single SDM to be shown. The only notable thing is that you can cancel into a roll after a CD. I guess this year, you can do so much with stocks.
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| OYashiroForever
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| "Re(6):I think the KOF2002 animation looks cho" , posted Tue 10 Sep 23:28
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And if the character balance is as good as 2001
character what? in KOF 2001? Foxy's game?
Until I lose to a good Foxy, then I shall said it's her game. 2001 Champ here used Goro, Ralf, Clark. And I know Singapore had Foxy and Lin. But oh well, Foxy and Lin is gone in 2002; even better.
This is not something you can argue. Foxy rules 2k1 with an iron fist. Lin, Clark, Daimon, and a few others can definitely hang. They can't touch Foxy. Glitch + ridiculous poking ability + sick damage. 2k1 is Foxy's game. End of discussion.
Oh... and good riddance to her, Lin, and Bao. 2k2 will be the best KoF since '98 if only for the fact that those 3 plagues aren't participating.
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| OYashiroForever
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| "Re(2):Tourney Sucks" , posted Wed 11 Sep 15:26
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The problem with SF2, especially when it came out, was that people didn't understand the concept of *letting other people play/learn*. I've never liked SF2, nor most fighting games out there. Sure, I have passing fancies with the SSs, the KOFs, the SCs, but they're few and far between. Why?
People never let me learn. It didn't matter whether the machine was crowded and competitive, or the place was dead empty. It was never *about* competition...it was always about the WIN. If the place was empty, and I popped some cash into SF2, *just to check it out* mind you, it never failed: some moron came over and forced himself into the game. When I said, "Hey, I'm just learning, here...", it never mattered. They'd beat the crap out of me just because they could. Nevermind the fact that I didn't even know how to throw a fireball. Didn't matter. Whee. That's not fun, *nor* is it competition.
Later on, when I could learn some of the games at home, I became semi-competitive at the arcade, too. And yes, competing among folks who have decent knowledge and ability is great fun. But I'll *never* understand the people who just destroy other people because they can, for no good reason. If there's money on the line, hey, understood. But otherwise, you've lost the spirit of the game, and that's *fun*.
I understand what the other guy's saying about *fun* as opposed to *tourney*. They're not necessarily mutually exclusive, but they *can* be if people make them that way. Truth: out of the ~13 Neo*Geo games I own, *none* are fighting games. None.
Guess why?
Lemme try... because you're a scrub. Sorry. Someone had to say it.
I can certainly understand not liking competitive fighting games. They're largely derivative, incredibly complicated, and difficult to learn at high levels.
I can even understand enjoying fighting games but not being in to the tournament/high-level scene. While competition is the whole point, not to mention the most enjoyable part, of the fighting game experience, there are a lot of undesirables that live in that world. In addition, not everyone has the time available to them in order to get to that level.
What I find absolutely ridiculous is the notion that the way some people play keeps you from wanting to play.
If someone beats you, there are only two possible reasons:
1) They're better than you.
2) They know something about the game you don't. (which can be easily remedied by reading a faq, checking a message board, or simply asking the person)
These people who "destroy" you have probably put in a lot of practice, learned the ins and outs of whatever game you happen to be playing, and are totally unwilling to show mercy to anyone who doesn't take the game seriously. Is that their fault? Absolutely NOT. In fact, they're doing you a favor kicking your ass to show you the weaknesses in your game and help you improve. After that, it's up to you. You either get better and beat them or stick your tail between your legs and make excuses.
I started playing with SF2 myself. (Hard to believe it's been 11 years. Must've been in high school then) I also came in a little bit late and found myself getting stomped on a regular basis at first. People would throw me, tick me, and generally did whatever it took to make sure they weren't the ones putting in that next 25 or 50 cents. Instead of whining about their cutthroat nature, I practiced and got better.
There are two rules when it comes to "cheapness" in competitive fighting games.
1) There's no such thing. *
2) See Rule #1.
* - This, of course, doesn't take in to account obvious stuff like pushing another person's buttons or physically impeding another person's performance.
I suppose the whole point behind this tirade is this: if you choose not to play fighting games competitively because you don't like the methods by which some people win, that's your problem. Not only is it an incredibly childish and self-defeating way of approaching a problem, you're also missing out on the whole point of playing. Shame on you. There is NOTHING more rewarding (and more importantly, FUN) than engaging in an activity at a high level of performance thanks to hard work, passion, and dedication.
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"Your denial is beneath you and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs I see through you."
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| Amakusa
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| "Re(1):Tourney Sucks" , posted Wed 11 Sep 15:41
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Beating people with Kula against sucky players does not make her good.
That's what YOU think. That's why people like you won't give 'underpowered' characters the time of day and stick to 'certainties' like Jhun or Angel. Or always use an overused Striker like Seth or Alt Iori. Or completely underestimate people like me who turn their world upside down with Kasumi (which I've learned is a fatal mistake to underestimate any character ever since playing against someone who was very good at using Ramon-- and whether you think Ramon sucks or not is beside the issue).
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Tournaments play brought about high level of play. Whether you think it is cheap or not is up to you. But I'm pretty sure all people who hates tournament think so.
You know nothing. I frankly don't give a crap about tournaments or who is the best at what. The only thing that matters to me is the guy a couple feet over on the other joystick, and if that's too simple for you to understand, well, you're in some nirvana I don't intend to achieve.
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"FUN" = "Competition"
You're forgetting one thing: "Takuma/Kyo/Iori/Seth" = "VERY BORING"
It's rare I play against someone who isn't using at least three of them, and certainly, I lose at least 70% of the time on the 5th round, but that isn't fun at all. This occurred because some moron on the Internet who think's he's such a hot player tells everybody that so-and-so is 'top tier' and all of a sudden you've got the cesspool of scrubby players who are too chicken to even touch someone 'low tier,' or, god forbid, actually learn to use them. It's your vaunted tournaments that reinforce and breed these cesspools with your vaunted 'high-level play;' for all the times I've played KOF I've YET to play against a human that actually used Chizuru, or Kasumi, or Orochi Chris, or heck, even Leona....
I found Kagami's sword in a junk yard.
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| boagman
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| "Re(3):Tourney Sucks" , posted Wed 11 Sep 17:17
Lemme try... because you're a scrub. Sorry. Someone had to say it.
Spotted. And when a scrub gets beaten, it's not a surprise.
I can certainly understand not liking competitive fighting games. They're largely derivative, incredibly complicated, and difficult to learn at high levels.
Old schoolers like me just don't see what all the hubbub is about. I still don't.
I can even understand enjoying fighting games but not being in to the tournament/high-level scene. While competition is the whole point, not to mention the most enjoyable part, of the fighting game experience, there are a lot of undesirables that live in that world. In addition, not everyone has the time available to them in order to get to that level.
Or, there are people who'd rather put their time into a *different* genre. Just so you know.
What I find absolutely ridiculous is the notion that the way some people play keeps you from wanting to play.
Mmmm, we're splitting hairs here. I have no problem with the way most people play, nor the fact that they beat me. In fighting games, that's usually the case.
If someone beats you, there are only two possible reasons:
1) They're better than you.
More than likely, or they've just played it more.
2) They know something about the game you don't. (which can be easily remedied by reading a faq, checking a message board, or simply asking the person)
Which, for a fighting game, is *far* more than I'm willing to do. To me, games do *not* equal work, and having to do research is just not what I can fun.
These people who "destroy" you have probably put in a lot of practice, learned the ins and outs of whatever game you happen to be playing, and are totally unwilling to show mercy to anyone who doesn't take the game seriously. Is that their fault? Absolutely NOT. In fact, they're doing you a favor kicking your ass to show you the weaknesses in your game and help you improve. After that, it's up to you. You either get better and beat them or stick your tail between your legs and make excuses.
Well, you're missing the point. Sorry. It needed to be said. If I'm playing a game myself, *alone*, it really isn't anyone else's place to come up uninvited and beat the crap out of me. Honestly, if I'm going into a crowd of players, and get my head handed to me, that's fine. Most recent example? Soul Calibur 2. Didn't bother me a bit.
However, if I'm sitting on a game in a mostly-empty arcade, and I'm playing one of your oh-so-precious fighting games, *I'm* just doing it for the fun of enjoying the game. Realize that I'm PLAYING IT ALONE FOR A REASON! If you'd like to play, go ahead and ask! But don't come up and unceremoniously kick my butt, and then, when I'm done, you stop playing! That's just rude! There's *no reason* for that.
Put another way: I remember when KOF98 came out at the local arcade. I wanted to play it, but it was occupied, for a good long time, by a guy who was obviously practicing. I hadn't had the chance to play it yet, and asked if I could join him. He agreed, and I told him that I just wanted to check the game out, and play around a little bit, and see what it was like. I also told him that I wouldn't beat him, even if the opportunity arose. It was *his* machine at the time, and I just wanted the chance to check it out. He agreed, and let me go five rounds with him to check out the different characters, see their moves, etc. Believe me, he didn't *have* to go five rounds...he could have polished me off in three quick rounds. But he *understood* that I was just wanted to *enjoy* myself, not grab the trophy, boost my ego, whatever.
Why is that asking too much? *ESPECIALLY* when I wait until a machine is free?
I started playing with SF2 myself. (Hard to believe it's been 11 years. Must've been in high school then) I also came in a little bit late and found myself getting stomped on a regular basis at first. People would throw me, tick me, and generally did whatever it took to make sure they weren't the ones putting in that next 25 or 50 cents. Instead of whining about their cutthroat nature, I practiced and got better.
But were you PLAYING with the idea of competition in mind? I wasn't. And I hardly ever do. There's a big difference there. If one person's playing to enjoy the game, and the other just wants to be a jerk, there's a problem there. And it's *not* with the one who's trying to enjoy the game.
There are two rules when it comes to "cheapness" in competitive fighting games.
1) There's no such thing. *
2) See Rule #1.
* - This, of course, doesn't take in to account obvious stuff like pushing another person's buttons or physically impeding another person's performance.
"Cheapness" can go a bit deeper. But usually tourney rules handle such things. Like I said, I have no problem with people, in a tournament or highly competitve setting, doing *whatever* it takes to win, within the rules of the game and the tourney. I don't care how robotic or unlimited their combos or supers or whatevers are...play within the rules to *win*. Anyone else is entitled to do the same.
I suppose the whole point behind this tirade is this: if you choose not to play fighting games competitively because you don't like the methods by which some people win, that's your problem. Not only is it an incredibly childish and self-defeating way of approaching a problem, you're also missing out on the whole point of playing. Shame on you. There is NOTHING more rewarding (and more importantly, FUN) than engaging in an activity at a high level of performance thanks to hard work, passion, and dedication.
I have no problem with the methods by which people win. I *do* have a problem with the reason that some people play in the first place. It's one thing to defend one's title, honor, name, etc. for posterity's sake. It's another thing entirely to go about trying to destroy other people's time just for the purpose of doing so, "because I can".
Oh, and that "engaging in an activity at a high level of performance thanks to hard work, passion, and dedication"? I know all about that...but I don't go out of my way to actively find those inferior to me in that arena and show them how bad they are, just to make myself feel cool. THAT'S what I object to. I'd much rather help them to become a better player, and get some good competition going, rather than nip it in the bud.
I seriously doubt that anyone can keep up with me on at least one game that I've mastered: Viewpoint for the Neo. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't share how I did it, and I *certainly* wouldn't look for a way to show other people "just how bad they really are".
Pinball reigns. You heard me right.
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| OYashiroForever
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| "Re(4):Tourney Sucks" , posted Wed 11 Sep 18:51
If you're going to bother to reply, learn how to use the UBB code properly.
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Lemme try... because you're a scrub. Sorry. Someone had to say it.
Spotted. And when a scrub gets beaten, it's not a surprise.
Translation in to the queen's English please.
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I can certainly understand not liking competitive fighting games. They're largely derivative, incredibly complicated, and difficult to learn at high levels.
Old schoolers like me just don't see what all the hubbub is about. I still don't.
If you don't see what all the hubbub is about, then why the hell are you complaining?
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I can even understand enjoying fighting games but not being in to the tournament/high-level scene. While competition is the whole point, not to mention the most enjoyable part, of the fighting game experience, there are a lot of undesirables that live in that world. In addition, not everyone has the time available to them in order to get to that level.
Or, there are people who'd rather put their time into a *different* genre. Just so you know.
Well aware of that. If you're one of them, then why are you in this thread whining about the very thing you don't want to put your time into?
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What I find absolutely ridiculous is the notion that the way some people play keeps you from wanting to play.
Mmmm, we're splitting hairs here. I have no problem with the way most people play, nor the fact that they beat me. In fighting games, that's usually the case.
WHAT?! You were JUST talking about how much you hated people who play hardcore and show no mercy kicking your ass. You OBVIOUSLY have a problem or you wouldn't have said so.
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2) They know something about the game you don't. (which can be easily remedied by reading a faq, checking a message board, or simply asking the person)
Which, for a fighting game, is *far* more than I'm willing to do. To me, games do *not* equal work, and having to do research is just not what I can fun.
Once again, if you're not interested in putting in the work to be good, why complain about losing?
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Well, you're missing the point. Sorry. It needed to be said. If I'm playing a game myself, *alone*, it really isn't anyone else's place to come up uninvited and beat the crap out of me. Honestly, if I'm going into a crowd of players, and get my head handed to me, that's fine. Most recent example? Soul Calibur 2. Didn't bother me a bit.
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Ahh... now you've clarified. No, unfortunately you're missing the point. The point of playing fighting games in an arcade. If you want to play by yourself, go home and hook up your console. Arcades are public establishments where anyone and everyone are welcome. If the game has two joysticks, it's designed for two players. If someone wants to come up and wipe the floor with you, that's their perogative. The arcade operator would rather they did. He can't make money when some twit is hogging the machine because he's only interested in seeing how the game is. It might not be very polite, especially if they walk away afterwards like you said. Doesn't mean they can't or shouldn't do it.
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But were you PLAYING with the idea of competition in mind? I wasn't. And I hardly ever do. There's a big difference there. If one person's playing to enjoy the game, and the other just wants to be a jerk, there's a problem there. And it's *not* with the one who's trying to enjoy the game.
First, I initially wasn't playing with the idea of comp in mind. I just wanted to play to see what all the fuss was about. Once I got my ass kicked a dozen times, then I wanted to play for the comp. Second, it most certainly IS a problem with the person trying to "enjoy" the game. You don't own the machine so you can't dictate the way it's to be used. Would it be more polite if the "jerk" waited until you were done? Sure. Should he? Hell no! The game is designed as winner stays, loser pays. Deal with it.
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"Cheapness" can go a bit deeper. But usually tourney rules handle such things. Like I said, I have no problem with people, in a tournament or highly competitve setting, doing *whatever* it takes to win, within the rules of the game and the tourney. I don't care how robotic or unlimited their combos or supers or whatevers are...play within the rules to *win*. Anyone else is entitled to do the same.
What rules?! There are no rules... only a winner and a loser. As for tourneys, they don't ban anything unless it's absolutely game-breaking (Foxy glitch, Gouki in Super Turbo, handcuffs, etc.). Oh, and cheapness doesn't go any further than the two places I discussed. Infinites are not cheap, throws are not cheap, 100% combos are not cheap, and ticking is not cheap.
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I have no problem with the methods by which people win. I *do* have a problem with the reason that some people play in the first place. It's one thing to defend one's title, honor, name, etc. for posterity's sake. It's another thing entirely to go about trying to destroy other people's time just for the purpose of doing so, "because I can".
Well, if someone's whole purpose in going to the arcade was to ruin your experience, then I'd probably have a problem with that too. More likely, these people were just searching for anyone to play, regardless of skill level, so they can practice their tournament-level abilities on a non-AI opponent. Not their fault you don't have the time or desire to be any good.
In the end, it appears you and I are coming from totally different angles. We can sit here and bicker back and forth about trivial minutia if you like. I'd rather not, but there are few things I enjoy more than a little debate and argumentation.
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| OYashiroForever
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| "Re(3):Tourney Sucks" , posted Wed 11 Sep 19:08
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Fortunately, most of the people I play DO use a healthy variety of character, and don't churn out so-called " top tiers " constantly ( which makes me sick. Fuck, why even put the other characters in the game if every bum who comes along is going to use the " top tiers " every freaking time? )Variety is the spice of life! Oh, and Amakusa, I use Leona all the time.. ^_^ Pity I can't play you...
In tournament play, people are interested in winning (when there's money and/or bragging rights involved, winning becomes relatively important). If you're interested in winning, you're going to want to pick the characters that give you a better chance of winning, no? In addition, if you want to perform well with said characters you need to practice, right? This is why so many people use nothing but top-tier characters, even in casual play.
Does that mean when they're sitting at home goofing around they use NOTHING but top-tier? No. Most good players tinker with every character, learning their strengths and weaknesses, constantly looking for a new powerful character, combo, or tactic. If they find something new, they practice it at home (or alone at the arcade if they can), then unleash it on the unwitting public once they've perfected it. :)
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| RugalBernstein 2385th Post
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| "Re(4):Tourney Sucks" , posted Wed 11 Sep 19:14
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In tournament play, people are interested in winning (when there's money and/or bragging rights involved, winning becomes relatively important). If you're interested in winning, you're going to want to pick the characters that give you a better chance of winning, no? In addition, if you want to perform well with said characters you need to practice, right? This is why so many people use nothing but top-tier characters, even in casual play.
Does that mean when they're sitting at home goofing around they use NOTHING but top-tier? No. Most good players tinker with every character, learning their strengths and weaknesses, constantly looking for a new powerful character, combo, or tactic. If they find something new, they practice it at home (or alone at the arcade if they can), then unleash it on the unwitting public once they've perfected it. :)
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Oh, I can understand that. But like I said, most folks are pretty good about that around here. Doesn't mean I don't get an infinite of Ukyo's used on me now and then, or something, but I don't mind, because it isn't constant, and it's generally in good fun ( laughter all around ). I resent it when they act like an asshole about it. But I've gotten to know the people who play alot pretty well, so it isn't really an issue anymore. But people are entitled to their opinions, no?
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| Muchiko
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| "Re(2):Tourney Sucks" , posted Wed 11 Sep 22:55
What the hell happened to my previous post?
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"Beating people with Kula against sucky players does not make her good."
That's what YOU think. That's why people like you won't give 'underpowered' characters the time of day and stick to 'certainties' like Jhun or Angel.
Damn man... why all of my characters are considered cheap when it took me two years to learn Jhun. After two years of hard work and kicking their ass like there's no tomorrow, all the effort and dedication ended up to nothing because some idiot thinks Jhun is cheap. You can call my Angel cheap because it only took me a month to learn, LOL.
And no I did not say Kula is not good, especially when I think 2001 is the most balanced KOF ever, until 2002 that is. I was saying that using the suckiest character in the game to beat a person that never plays the game before means nothing.
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Or always use an overused Striker like Seth or Alt Iori.
I hope you're not directing it at me. Because I don't use any of those strikers. I used Syo striker and had used Lion King in a tourney and got fourth (small sucky tourney). But obviously we all know how striker imbalance 2000 is, so of course people will use them in tourneys.
Like I've said before, a balanced game would mean great tournaments. So you people can't whine about "this character is top tier this and that, and everyone will use them in tourneys." But it is inevitable; people who thinks something is cheap will always think like that regardless of how balanced a game is. If they see a mass amount of people playing a certain character, they will say cheap. I have not seen otherwise.
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Or completely underestimate people like me who turn their world upside down with Kasumi (which I've learned is a fatal mistake to underestimate any character ever since playing against someone who was very good at using Ramon-- and whether you think Ramon sucks or not is beside the issue).
You're saying Kasumi isn't suck and Ramon isn't suck... so what's your problem with people choosing other characters? People who chose the norm are automatically cheap for some reason?
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You know nothing.
Ouch... at least I know not to whine and actually beat the so-called cheap shit.
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I frankly don't give a crap about tournaments or who is the best at what. The only thing that matters to me is the guy a couple feet over on the other joystick, and if that's too simple for you to understand, well, you're in some nirvana I don't intend to achieve.
Me lost, me don't understand what you're saying at all in that paragraph. But do let me tell you that if there are people like you who thinks this and that is cheap... guess how many rules and guidelines there are for a game? It's like what elementary school children would do before a game of tedderball (sp?); let make our own rules. I don't want to ask everyone before a game, "Do you think normal throws are cheap? Is this char considered cheap? Will I be called cheap if I beat you?" The people who lose will have a stupid opinion about a game in which they can't do well in... and all they can do is complain and whine because they cannot do anything else in their mind.
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"FUN" = "Competition"
You're forgetting one thing: "Takuma/Kyo/Iori/Seth" = "VERY BORING"
Only to you maybe... but if when you mean cheap you mean boring, maybe you should separate the two totally different words.
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It's rare I play against someone who isn't using at least three of them, and certainly, I lose at least 70% of the time on the 5th round, but that isn't fun at all.
It's mostly not fun because you lost. And I thought your so-called Kasumi kick ass. But let say if you were to beat everyone in the arcade, would you still call them cheap?
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This occurred because some moron on the Internet who think's he's such a hot player tells everybody that so-and-so is 'top tier' and all of a sudden you've got the cesspool of scrubby players who are too chicken to even touch someone 'low tier,' or, god forbid, actually learn to use them. It's your vaunted tournaments that reinforce and breed these cesspools with your vaunted 'high-level play;' for all the times I've played KOF I've YET to play against a human that actually used Chizuru, or Kasumi, or Orochi Chris, or heck, even Leona....
I guess you were looking in the wrong place. Believe it or not, Chizuru is one of the most used characters in tourneys in HK. Similar thing with O.Chris and Leona. Any balanced game will have variations in tournaments. Orochi Yashiro was never used in tourneys there, however. Although my favorite character is O.Yashiro, I usually reframe from using him because of the bad opinion about him from scrubs. But I am planning to use him again in 2002 because the people I play against now don't give a rats ass who you pick or how you play (for the most part, because they're tourney players). But some of them are still dumb, thinking normal throws are cheap even though they're good.
You wanna know what I like about fighting against mainstream chars? Because when I beat them with characters they never touched or seen used often before and yet when I get like 10 wins... it says a lot. It says that they're stupid not being able to beat lower tier characters with their so-called top tiers. If they call me cheap, thereafter, is a different story.
As you can see, I have a HIGH detest against people who complains and always think something is cheap. Do you think people who thinks something is cheap has a good sportmanship? Hell no, and these are the people I avoid playing against. Not only do they ruin the game for me but they ruin the whole purpose of playing the game in the first place.
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| Fygee 330th Post
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| "Re(3):Tourney Sucks" , posted Thu 12 Sep 02:46
I never go to tournaments for 3 reasons.
1. There aren't any Neo-Geo tournaments here attend in the first place.
2. People will only use supposed top-tier characters.
3. I'm not asian, which all but guarantees me a loss in every match (face it, asian people are friggin nuts at these games).
98% of the games I play are against the CPU. While being able to play against a human character is nice (I do on Kaillera every now and then), everyone uses the same characters in the same two styles (combo maniac and non-combo maniac), which gets old real fast. Its kind of funny though. When I do play online, people often ask me why I use the characters I do (namely King (always), Mai, K', Ralf, Kim, Ryo, Terry, Andy, Joe, Xiangfei, or Hinako (depends on what I feel like)) and why I don't use supposed top-tier characters like Kyo, Iori, Takuma, or Seth. I tell them because I like them, and then I proceed to teach them a lesson by whooping their buttocks. Beating an Iori player with Hinako or Xiangfei is one of the most satisfying things ever. ;)
The whole concept of "tiers" can suck my left nut. I don't use a character because I think they're super superior and all, I use them because I just like the way they play.
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| The colonel
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| "missing frames" , posted Thu 12 Sep 05:31
The vids from neogeo.com do include animation frames loss, I.E marys crouch D is missing a few, but i think she may recover faster afterwards. When characters roll, there frames have also being cut, it makes the game look even worse but thats how they get the data to add all those characters.
With a bit of luck, 2003 will have around 25 to 30 characters with lots of new frames & characters. I would settle for having the psycho soldier team removed & change up the teams with new members, say about 2 new characters for 4 of the teams in a 3 vs 3 scenario.
I'm not saying 2002 looks crap, just i like to see not many frames cut in games, i hope that the playabillity is great & just overshadows the minor areas. Wonder if it has 4 win poses like 98, would be impessive if it did.
Your power is great but you will never defeat the colonel
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| Burning Kyo 850th Post
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|  "Re(4):Tourney Sucks"
, posted Thu 12 Sep 13:25
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98% of the games I play are against the CPU. While being able to play against a human character is nice (I do on Kaillera every now and then), everyone uses the same characters in the same two styles (combo maniac and non-combo maniac), which gets old real fast. Its kind of funny though. When I do play online, people often ask me why I use the characters I do (namely King (always), Mai, K', Ralf, Kim, Ryo, Terry, Andy, Joe, Xiangfei, or Hinako (depends on what I feel like)) and why I don't use supposed top-tier characters like Kyo, Iori, Takuma, or Seth. I tell them because I like them, and then I proceed to teach them a lesson by whooping their buttocks. Beating an Iori player with Hinako or Xiangfei is one of the most satisfying things ever. ;)
The whole concept of "tiers" can suck my left nut. I don't use a character because I think they're super superior and all, I use them because I just like the way they play.
A lot of people play with Kyo or Iori 'cause they're charismatic, 'n not just 'cause they're top.
"Teme no hono wa nani iro da ?"
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| Amakusa
79th Post
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| "Re(3):Tourney Sucks" , posted Thu 12 Sep 21:08:
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Damn man... why all of my characters are considered cheap when it took me two years to learn Jhun. After two years of hard work and kicking their ass like there's no tomorrow, all the effort and dedication ended up to nothing because some idiot thinks Jhun is cheap. You can call my Angel cheap because it only took me a month to learn, LOL.
You're so obsessed with not being cheap, such that, deep down inside, you must think you ARE cheap. Did I call you cheap? NO. You did that yourself, and thanks for the Freudian slip.
Just who are you arguing with, anyway? The 'cheapness' isn't my argument, so I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole.
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It's mostly not fun because you lost.
Hah, if only you listened, but I'll be such a nice guy and connect the dots for you again:
It's not fun because you're fighting against the same 5-6 characters all the time. Unlike you, I frankly don't care if I win or lose, the only thing that matters to me is how long I can keep up with the other person.
And it's thoroughly pathetic if they can't beat me on Round 3.
Round 3 = lopsided battle
Round 5 = close battle
Skill <> win always
Fun <> win always
Variety <> cesspool of 5-6 characters
I KNOW I am great with Kasumi because, frankly, I'm the only one around that seriously uses her, and can win with her. There is no one else around the arcade that can do that.
Of course, if I seriously feel like winning, I just use Yuri. Drawing from memory I've won more times with her on 3rd-4th round than 5th than any other character. I don't use her for that reason.
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I guess you were looking in the wrong place.
Looking? You think I play on the Internet? I play at the arcade, you loon, and there's very little you can do with the competition you're given at any one arcade.
You obviously have a much broader scope than I as concerned to KOF, but then, when you try to argue in a smaller scope, you don't know jack.
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As you can see, I have a HIGH detest against people who complains and always think something is cheap.
I frankly don't listen to people that have a knack for completely missing the argument, so save your canned "Wah wah, I'm not cheap" speeches for someone who cares, and come back when you get your transmissions untangled.
I found Kagami's sword in a junk yard.
"Dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-do."
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| Muchiko
85th Post
Occasional Customer
| "Re(4):Tourney Sucks" , posted Fri 13 Sep 01:06
Amakusa:
You're straying off topic here... Not me. Your last post before this one pertains to your complaint about people at your arcade beating your ass with top-tier characters, which was inforced by online FAQ's (AHAHHAAH) and tourneys. And you are sick with these people picking just these characters. Isn't this your whole post?
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You're so obsessed with not being cheap, such that, deep down inside, you must think you ARE cheap. Did I call you cheap? NO. You did that yourself, and thanks for the Freudian slip.
Haha... you didn't get it. Most people I play in the arcade will call anyone cheap when they lose. I'm sure you met these kinds of people before. I would classify you as one of them because you're sick of these mainstream players picking just top-tiers, which is pretty cheap in your mind. And with the fact that you said tourney players are cheap, you indirectly called me cheap because I side with tourneys even when I play characters no else use; at least over here.
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Just who are you arguing with, anyway? The 'cheapness' isn't my argument, so I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole.
Fine. Let just end this with you hating mainstream players... nothing to do with cheapness.
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It's not fun because you're fighting against the same 5-6 characters all the time.
That's just you I guess. I don't like fighting against mainstream chars either, but I wouldn't let that ruin my fun.
Every game has scrub friendly characters. It only makes it easier for me to beat them since they all use the same strats. I'm more proned to losing against people that use my characters or someone with some weird ass strat (e.g. Superwoman Mai Shiranui).
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Unlike you, I frankly don't care if I win or lose, the only thing that matters to me is how long I can keep up with the other person.
How hypocritical. Then why are you complaining about tournaments making top-tiers for used by mainstream? And these are the people you lose to.
I never complained anything about me winning or losing. I was complaining about me winning and the loser complaining at me.
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And it's thoroughly pathetic if they can't beat me on Round 3.
Wow. So if they can't beat you by round 3, they automatically suck? And since you pick Kasumi and other not so popular characters, you have the privilege to say they suck if they can't beat you fast enough?
Ahaha... this brought up funny moments where my friend and I would pick each others characters... Haha... I would just pick my character and he would lose. LOL. Oh no wait, I don't know how to fight against my own chars...
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Round 3 = lopsided battle
Round 5 = close battle
I am lost... why the hell do you need to tell me which round you usually lost?
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Skill <> win always
Fun <> win always
Variety <> cesspool of 5-6 characters
Trust me... less variations equal suck. Meaning they should be easy to beat if all of them played the same way. If you learned how to beat one of them, you can beat all of them. Simple as that. It's like all the scrubs there at the arcade is just one person. I know that's what you're thinking...
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I KNOW I am great with Kasumi because, frankly, I'm the only one around that seriously uses her, and can win with her. There is no one else around the arcade that can do that.
Winning as in beating everyone at the arcade with her? Or are you saying winning one round with her?
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Of course, if I seriously feel like winning, I just use Yuri. Drawing from memory I've won more times with her on 3rd-4th round than 5th than any other character.
I think I'm dumb. I still have no idea why you need to tell me which round you're winning or not. Don't tell me this is your whole point of the post...
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Looking? You think I play on the Internet? I play at the arcade, you loon, and there's very little you can do with the competition you're given at any one arcade.
Internet? I never mentioned anything about online. That is unless you have good ping and someone to play with near your area. But since everyone in your area are scrubs, why bother.
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You obviously have a much broader scope than I as concerned to KOF, but then, when you try to argue in a smaller scope, you don't know jack.
You know you're complaining right? You are complaining about your loss to mainstream. If not, then you wouldn't have replied in the first place. We were talking about top tiers, and then all sudden you jumped in saying tourney sucks and it created scrubby players. Blah Blah Blah.
And then I ramble about people complaining. And now you're telling me I don't know anything about the arcade. I think I've played more different aracades than you have because I have come across with a lot of people who aren't mainstream. And you're just stuck with one arcade, and that arcade is the only source you can give about the arcade scene. So everything that you have said and talked about is just your opinion from that one arcade. So broader is better. Who cares what happens in one arcade?
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I frankly don't listen to people that have a knack for completely missing the argument, so save your canned "Wah wah, I'm not cheap" speeches for someone who cares, and come back when you get your transmissions untangled.
Missing the argument? Who rambles about their life at the arcade losing to some scrubs because of tourneys?
I feel sad for you, really. Because if you lose to those so-called scrubs, then you're not even good at KOF in the first place, or good with Kasumi for that matter. Because most of the KOF games are really balanced. If ALL my friends and I pick non-mainstream characters and beat scrubs easily in all KOF's, I don't see why you can't? But then there are people who think that they're good, and the only reason that separate their wins and losses are players picking top-tier or mainstream characters.
But if you're talking about 2000, then no, the strikers are obviously not balanced, but the characters are. If you think the game is cheap, then don't play; just be like all other '98 worshippers and wait for 2002.
It's funny how my friend and I play with characters no one ever used, then each of us gettings long streaks on both machines. Or even better, a guy getting long streaks with full random in 2001, fighting against great players (or YOU might call them scrubs). Why am I telling you this? Because there are arcades out there with people winning with non-mainstream chars. Don't base your opinion in one arcade...
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| Amakusa
80th Post
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| "Re(5):Tourney Sucks" , posted Fri 13 Sep 03:37:
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Amakusa:
You're straying off topic here... Not me.
Nope. You're the one that's arguing about cheapness, and I don't care. That's not what I'm arguing about. End of story.
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Fine. Let just end this with you hating mainstream players... nothing to do with cheapness.
Mainstream being what, you and your tourney buddies?
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That's just you I guess. I don't like fighting against mainstream chars either,
Pathetic. You're only seeing that which you want to see, and that makes you a poor person to argue with.
First you talk about tournaments, then you talk about cheapness, and then you talk about mainstream? Find out what page I'm on (answer at the bottom) before you start playing the fool.
And you're only kidding yourself if you think anything about KOF is 'mainstream.' KOF is as cult as it gets.
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How hypocritical. Then why are you complaining about tournaments making top-tiers for used by mainstream?
No variety. There's nothing hypocritical about it; it only serves to demonstrate your severe lacking of ability to connect the dots on your own, where others before you have demonstrated that they understood what it meant without spelling it out to idiots who don't know how to use that wonderful organ known as a brain. I no longer feel the need to explain myself to idiots, because chances are they still won't get it.
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And these are the people you lose to.
Get it through your thick head: I don't care about your tournaments. I don't care who's doing what to who in Hong Kong. I only care about the guy I'm playing against at the time. This has nothing to do with ownage, combos, your vaunted 'tiering,' it has all to do with having fun, and principle (of which you completely ignored because it just doesn't register to you that someone would dare handicap themself), and frankly, you've lost sight of that in your vain attempts to put me down. You can't convince me you've never lose to anybody; you can't convince me you're god at KOF simply by virtue of the fact that you can't admit that you lose. You even knew before this argument that I wasn't that good at KOF (and I remember repeating that fact plenty of times at your own forum), and you think you're so great because you're a hot SoCal tournament player? Greatness is relative! You take such perverse pleasure in putting me down for something I freely admit? Pathetic; it's like I have to write the material for you.
You also cannot convince me that if it's there, you must use it. It's there, but I don't HAVE to use it, otherwise I'd be like you and practice chi's 90% Chizuru combo all day until I could do it in my sleep. I don't ever buy crap that goes "Everyone's using Seth, so I have to use Seth too" mentality, I will win on my own terms. That is principle, you can respect it, and you don't have to like it; the only thing that matters is if I like it.
There is no rule that you must be 'this certain way' to play KOF. Your closed-minded view of the issue only serves to exemplify what matters to you: tournaments, the Asian scene, and cheapness. Too fixated on getting that big combo down or pulling jumps until you can actually get a cross-up going, and too self-absorbed to just wing it (or, as I call it, throw away your money). Your illusion is your ability. Your complex is your overriding desire to win (whether it be this argument or the game itself, but I assure you, you'll never win). Your mistake is your misguided belief that you're in the majority, and therefore that makes you right. Guess what, the majority isn't infallible; the human race proves time and again its stupidity, and I had this vain hope that you were smart enough to finish this in a decent manner, but your true colors will forevermore show through: you're nothing but a petty thug.
In any case, you're already too late; you've lost whatever dignity you had to put down an insignificant person. If I were you I'd do something a little more constructive with my time than make myself look stupid by arguing the wrong argument with the wrong person. But then, I'm not you.
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BTW, my argument was against the artificiality of the 'tier' system, and how that breeds a cesspool of players that pick the same characters by virtue of the fact that they are 'top tier.' And, of course, that the need for competition alone is not enough to make the game fun. Had you tried to counter that, this might've turned out more civil. You brought the rest of it down on yourself, you poor, deluded fool.
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But if you're talking about 2000, then no, the strikers are obviously not balanced, but the characters are. .
The Strikers were at their best in 2K, it's fools like you that only use Seth, Joe, or Alt Iori while I was down with whoever I happened to switch out at the moment (usually Chris, Leona, or Kasumi). It never occurred to many fools that the fourth slot served a purpose other than desginated Striker (and hell, I even told you that when your site was still KOF Forever).
It's sad, really, because I know more about you than you know about me. Everything you know about me is what I purposefully let you know, while everything I know about you... it never occurs to you that it's free lunch. In fact, you never realized that '99 was my personal favorite, and that Yuri is my strongest character; you were too fixated on my blatent Kasumi worshipping to notice.
I found Kagami's sword in a junk yard.
"Dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-do."
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| Burning Kyo 859th Post
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| "Re(1):2002 example combo" , posted Fri 13 Sep 15:23:
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Oh yeah! 2002's combos are looking quite hot once you translate them off of sites or think up some possible combinations.
I am looking forward to doing kyo 95's power max, jC, sC, qcf+D'D, qcf+C, hcb+D, qcb,hcf+P.
What's the code to pick Kyo '95 ?
Your combo is weird ... It's really possible to do that with Kyo '95 in MAX : "qcf+D x2, qcf+C, hcb+D" ???
"Teme no hono wa nani iro da ?"
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| Muchiko
88th Post
Occasional Customer
| "Re(6):Tourney Sucks" , posted Fri 13 Sep 20:36
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Nope. You're the one that's arguing about cheapness, and I don't care. That's not what I'm arguing about. End of story.
You mean to tell me that you did not tell me your little story about tournie players picking the cheapest char and how that brought about your local arcade using the same top-tier chars? Try to prove to me that that isn't your first post...
Please try to respond to my points instead of straying and adding new topics about how I cannot understand you. And always calling me an idiot, not know what the shit you're talking about... it shows that you argue for the sake of arguing instead of bringing out insightful infos. I think there should be a FAQ on every forum, showing how to reply to posts. Name calling should be the first.
And again, don't neglect my points, it only show your inability to respond correctly. I came up with all these points and you had nothing to say except calling me names and how I don't understand you. That is pathetic.
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Mainstream being what, you and your tourney buddies?
You didn't understand that? You created that word... aka your local scrubs, the people who choose the same chars, the people who beat you with the same few chars, the people who you considered as cheap whores who don't know how to play other chars, and everyone except you. Enough for you?
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"That's just you I guess. I don't like fighting against mainstream chars either,"
Pathetic. You're only seeing that which you want to see, and that makes you a poor person to argue with.
Tell me who doesn't want to beat up on scrubs??? Not you of course, because you can't beat them in the first place, duh!
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First you talk about tournaments, then you talk about cheapness, and then you talk about mainstream? Find out what page I'm on (answer at the bottom) before you start playing the fool.
Listen. I will explain this to you again in a very simple manner. I was talking about balance between 2001 and 1998, speculate that 2002 will be the most balanced. Got that yet? Then someone raised a topic about how 2001 wasn't that balanced in tourneys because Foxy owned the game. And here is when I said different tourneys have different top tiers. And now, guess who came in and talked about how tourneys make mainstream? I think you read re-read the previous posts. I reply to posts, I don't make new topics. Notice how I reply line by now. Notic how you snipped all my points and talk about everything else beside the topic at hand; you're talking about how dumb I am not abling to follow you.
If you are gonna reply to this post, I bet you only gonna talk about how stupid I am.
Notice how now we have a different topic with me only talking about previous posts and "HOW TO REPLY" and not the actual topic at hand? That's because you change the subject from KOF arcade scene topic to personal attack.
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And you're only kidding yourself if you think anything about KOF is 'mainstream.' KOF is as cult as it gets.
All of that that I have written and you came out with this stupid reply? Yet again? Quote me where did I say KOF is 'mainstream'? The only thing I relate mainstream to is your local scrubs whom you despised.
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No variety. There's nothing hypocritical about it; it only serves to demonstrate your severe lacking of ability to connect the dots on your own
We been through this already. I said you're being hypocritical because how can one person that didn't CARE ABOUT WINNING come up to legitimate topic about top-tiers and complain about how tournies created all these scrub??? If you didn't care about winning why the fuck you started a new topic about your local scrubs? That's called hypocrite.
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I only care about the guy I'm playing against at the time. This has nothing to do with ownage, combos, your vaunted 'tiering,' it has all to do with having fun, and principle (of which you completely ignored because it just doesn't register to you that someone would dare handicap themself), and frankly, you've lost sight of that in your vain attempts to put me down.
See, we are talking about tiers and then you jumped in and complained about all of these shit. We were talking ligitimately about the balace of the game, who the shit care about having fun, principle, or how the shit you lose to the guy next to you? That is off-topic... and you created it. Then I replied to your post, then you called me not understanding you and shit like that.
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You can't convince me you've never lose to anybody; you can't convince me you're god at KOF simply by virtue of the fact that you can't admit that you lose.
Did I ever said I never lose? I've lost as many times as I win. Stop making up stories. However, I did make a comment about how a person or scrub went online, read FAQ's, and all of the sudden beat everyone at their arcade. That is just hilarious. Good players don't read FAQ's, period; only to find the motions for the moves.
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You even knew before this argument that I wasn't that good at KOF (and I remember repeating that fact plenty of times at your own forum), and you think you're so great because you're a hot SoCal tournament player? Greatness is relative! You take such perverse pleasure in putting me down for something I freely admit? Pathetic; it's like I have to write the material for you.
Now I know why you went off-topic... personal attack. Nice! Haha, how much you put words in my mouth. I can't recall anything about you saying you're not good in KOF. But if you do admit that you're not good in KOF, why complain about not being able to beat a better player?
I lose to a lot of players... some I know I can't even touch, but I don't go to forums and write about gripe and how cheap the person is. And with the end result of ruining the game for me. If KOF is for fun, why complain about losing to the guy next to you and hating everyone who beats you?
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You also cannot convince me that if it's there, you must use it. It's there, but I don't HAVE to use it, otherwise I'd be like you and practice chi's 90% Chizuru combo all day until I could do it in my sleep. I don't ever buy crap that goes "Everyone's using Seth, so I have to use Seth too" mentality, I will win on my own terms.
Again, we been over this... I said 2000 is not striker balanced... therefore, you will have a hard time against an opponent with the same level as you.
Like I said before, all my friends doesn't choose the norm. Get it to your head! I play characters whom I love, either design-wise or style-wise. You think I play Jhun because he's cheap? I play Jhun because I think he is a God regardless if I have to lose every round with him for the first two years. You think I play Angel because she's cheap and get beat up every single time when 2001 first debuted?
Please stop calling me things that I am not.
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There is no rule that you must be 'this certain way' to play KOF. Your closed-minded view of the issue only serves to exemplify what matters to you: tournaments, the Asian scene, and cheapness.
I love KOF, that is why I play it regularly, join tournaments if there are any. I do this because it is fun. Competition in KOF is fun for me. I don't judge how people play and I expect them to do the same regardless if they do infinites or not. Do understand that I get all those cheap shits thrown at me every turn. It's just that all the people who only learned to do that stuff suck... the good players are the players with variations and these are the players I lose to, not your local pathetic scrubs. And if by chance I lose to them, I don't give a fuck, even if they do infinites all day or what not.
I don't let this bother me... cheapness... you're having a hard time coping with it. I am not, that's why I am happy playing KOF, and not arguing people about what is cheap and what is not.
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In any case, you're already too late; you've lost whatever dignity you had to put down an insignificant person.
Since I don't have time for personal attacks arguments... I end it here... And I'm already late for my 2001 gaming...
I will reply to your tier later, putting aside personal attacks and such, so it won't be off-topic as I like to discuss about balance and whatnot.
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| Burning Kyo 861th Post
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| "Re(7):Tourney Sucks" , posted Sat 14 Sep 01:38:
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I love KOF, that is why I play it regularly, join tournaments if there are any. I do this because it is fun. Competition in KOF is fun for me. I don't judge how people play and I expect them to do the same regardless if they do infinites or not. Do understand that I get all those cheap shits thrown at me every turn. It's just that all the people who only learned to do that stuff suck... the good players are the players with variations and these are the players I lose to, not your local pathetic scrubs. And if by chance I lose to them, I don't give a fuck, even if they do infinites all day or what not.
I don't let this bother me... cheapness... you're having a hard time coping with it. I am not, that's why I am happy playing KOF, and not arguing people about what is cheap and what is not.
I agree with Muchiko on this point.
The tournaments is the best way to learn (IMHO) : various level, various manner of playing, various team.
I doubt that someone, who only play against bags, can progress a lot.
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However, I did make a comment about how a person or scrub went online, read FAQ's, and all of the sudden beat everyone at their arcade. That is just hilarious. Good players don't read FAQ's, period; only to find the motions for the moves.
I disagree with you on this part ...
I think that a good way also to learn, maybe not as good as to play often against a better player. But good all the same, IMO this means is faster ... but not sure at 100%. The most useless thing in the FAQs is the strategy or tactic part, because each player is different in his manner of playing.
"Teme no hono wa nani iro da ?"
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| The colonel
41th Post
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| "Re(2):2002 example combo" , posted Sat 14 Sep 03:47
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Oh yeah! 2002's combos are looking quite hot once you translate them off of sites or think up some possible combinations.
I am looking forward to doing kyo 95's power max, jC, sC, qcf+D'D, qcf+C, hcb+D, qcb,hcf+P.
What's the code to pick Kyo '95 ?
Your combo is weird ... It's really possible to do that with Kyo '95 in MAX : "qcf+D x2, qcf+C, hcb+D" ???
I can not see why not, it depends on how far the qcf+C knocks them back, they should make all combo's like this possible for nice variety of choice & to make your own. You can't just keep using the same ones because they do the most damage. Well! maybe you can.
Your power is great but you will never defeat the colonel
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| Muchiko
89th Post
Occasional Customer
| "Re(1):Tourney Sucks... I don't care." , posted Sat 14 Sep 11:39
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"I disagree with you on this part ...
I think that a good way also to learn, maybe not as good as to play often against a better player. But good all the same, IMO this means is faster ... but not sure at 100%. The most useless thing in the FAQs is the strategy or tactic part, because each player is different in his manner of playing."
Finally I got someone to back me up on this one; I have recieved several complains about this issue "teach me how to play"... Just like talking or writing, playing is not a thing that can be teached to the 100%; there are things that you just have to deal for yourself. (semanic structure on the examples)
It's basically like reading a book. It's really up to the person if s/he will understand it. Sometime it requires reading more than once just to understand. However, reading strategic FAQ's require more than just that. After understanding during your reading, you'll have to test the strategy on your opponent in various levels, and then improve upon it. This takes a lot of time and dedication.
But almost all of the FAQ's pertaining to KOF do not go indepth when it comes to strategies. I have always planned to do an indepth FAQ on a character showing what I was thinking when I use the character against a certain character. Just saying "you gotta do this against this certain tatics" doesn't really show the HOW to think part of it. Most FAQ's currently out now doesn't show you how to beat a certain character, which should be the most essential for any FAQ.
To improve in your gameplay, you will have to learn how to think... a lot!
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