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sabo10 65th Post
Occasional Customer
"Subversive themes in Mario Sunshine"
, posted Mon 2 Sep 19:49
For over three months, the Americans were kept in solitary confinement, starved, dehydrated, and regularly tortured to confess details of their mission. They were strung up on a rack, until they passed out. They were forced to drink gallons of water and then lie on the floor as five guards would jump on their stomachs.
, posted Mon 2 Sep 19:56
How does this relate to Sunshine?
MVS version in 2003. Are you ready?
sabo10 66th Post
Occasional Customer
"Re(2):Subversive themes in Mario Sunshine"
, posted Mon 2 Sep 20:00
Have you played it? One of the bosses is defeated by spraying water into its mouth until it is engorged, and then jumping on its stomach.
ONSLAUGHT
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"Re(3):Subversive themes in Mario Sunshine"
, posted Mon 2 Sep 20:15
quote: Have you played it? One of the bosses is defeated by spraying water into its mouth until it is engorged, and then jumping on its stomach.
Aahhhh, makes sense now!
Freeter
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"Re(3):Subversive themes in Mario Sunshine"
, posted Mon 2 Sep 20:24
quote: Have you played it? One of the bosses is defeated by spraying water into its mouth until it is engorged, and then jumping on its stomach.
Sounds entirely coincidental. I'm sure Miyamoto didn't have such things in mind when making that boss fight.
MVS version in 2003. Are you ready?
Hungrywolf
1458th Post
Red Carpet Executive Member
"Re(4):Subversive themes in Mario Sunshine"
, posted Mon 2 Sep 21:14
quote: Have you played it? One of the bosses is defeated by spraying water into its mouth until it is engorged, and then jumping on its stomach.
Sounds entirely coincidental. I'm sure Miyamoto didn't have such things in mind when making that boss fight.
agreed.
"Someday we'll find it the rainbow connection..." -Kermit The Muppet Movie Hungry Like the Wolf
Iggy
561th Post
New Red Carpet Member
"Re(3):Subversive themes in Mario Sunshine"
, posted Tue 3 Sep 08:04
quote: Have you played it? One of the bosses is defeated by spraying water into its mouth until it is engorged, and then jumping on its stomach.
Yes!! Miyamoto surely thought to this when he made the game! That's exactly like these guys that made a sequel to Lord of The Ring called "the twin towers" only to gain publicity because of the 11 september! The world is sooo mean !!
dorikyasu
590th Post
New Red Carpet Member
"Re(4):Subversive themes in Mario Sunshine"
, posted Tue 3 Sep 09:22
I thought Mario Sunshine had more anti-JSR/JSRF theme than anything else. With Mario getting framed and having to bear the consequences of "evil deed" (i.e.: graffiti) which he didn't even commit. Remember kids, "Clean is Better than Dirty, and Dirty is Meaner than Clean!"
Mosquiton
435th Post
Gold Customer
"Re(5):Subversive themes in Mario Sunshine"
, posted Tue 3 Sep 11:10
Mostly off-topic, you guys should remember that Miyamoto is only one of the co-producers (I think, would have to check to be sure)...
But the point is that Koizumi (director) and Tezuka (co-producer) probably had more to do with the game's hands-on development that Mario did.
The new Zelda will truly be Miyamoto's game. At least, these are the impressions I got. If anyone knows differently feel free to correct me.
"Subversive themes in Mario Sunshine" 
the rainbow connection..." -Kermit
