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"DAMMIT Rugal isn't Playable >:(" , posted Sun 25 Aug 19:16

Since KOF 2k2 has 13 teams and with only three each.. it goes down to 39 (one less than KOF 2001) Are there any hidden chars confirmed aside from Yashiro and compnay?

Rugal NEEDS to be back to REDEEM himself from his KOF 98 weakling incarnation (he was decent at the CvS series though).. Rugal being a boss AGAIN really sucks.. especially if there's no playable version of him.

Evil is what keeps life Interesting.. Oh I forgot to add Sex!!

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TheBeast

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"Too early" , posted Sun 25 Aug 19:22

quote:
Since KOF 2k2 has 13 teams and with only three each.. it goes down to 39 (one less than KOF 2001) Are there any hidden chars confirmed aside from Yashiro and compnay?

Rugal NEEDS to be back to REDEEM himself from his KOF 98 weakling incarnation (he was decent at the CvS series though).. Rugal being a boss AGAIN really sucks.. especially if there's no playable version of him.

It is WAY TOO EARLY to tell. He could be a secret character hidden. Even if he is not playable in the arcade, he WILL BE playable in any home versions, just like Zero in 2K DC.

RugalBernstein

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"Re(1):Too early" , posted Sun 25 Aug 19:50

You could just mess with the dip settings and use him, anyway.. ^_^ I love bios! ^_^

Fuchikoma
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"Re(1):Too early" , posted Sun 25 Aug 20:07

quote:
Since KOF 2k2 has 13 teams and with only three each.. it goes down to 39 (one less than KOF 2001) Are there any hidden chars confirmed aside from Yashiro and compnay?

Rugal NEEDS to be back to REDEEM himself from his KOF 98 weakling incarnation (he was decent at the CvS series though).. Rugal being a boss AGAIN really sucks.. especially if there's no playable version of him.

It is WAY TOO EARLY to tell. He could be a secret character hidden. Even if he is not playable in the arcade, he WILL BE playable in any home versions, just like Zero in 2K DC.

Zero is playable in the DC version of KOF2k?!

the REAL master
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"Re(2):Too early" , posted Sun 25 Aug 21:36

in practice mode

Capcom is a glorious and respectable company and rolento is the greatest charachter ever created also van damn played guile to a tee :)
*please dont kill me*

BlackNinjaVinny

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"Re(3):Too early" , posted Sun 25 Aug 21:50

Please tell me you are kidding. Rugal is the boss in this game? Jesus christ...

RugalBernstein

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"Re(4):Too early" , posted Sun 25 Aug 22:34

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Please tell me you are kidding. Rugal is the boss in this game? Jesus christ...

Is there something wrong with that? ^_^
If his hobby is " resurrection " ( and it is ), he should be doing more resurrecting, damnit! ^_^

Juan

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"Re(5):Too early" , posted Sun 25 Aug 22:36

I just hope he blows himself up in the ending. He has to, its a tradition!

"I'LL BE BACK YOU JERKS!!!"
*boom*

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Please tell me you are kidding. Rugal is the boss in this game? Jesus christ...

Is there something wrong with that? ^_^
If his hobby is " resurrection " ( and it is ), he should be doing more resurrecting, damnit! ^_^

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I am Juan's buttered website.

TiamatRoar
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"Re(6):Too early" , posted Sun 25 Aug 22:43

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I just hope he blows himself up in the ending. He has to, its a tradition!

"I'LL BE BACK YOU JERKS!!!"
*boom*

Please tell me you are kidding. Rugal is the boss in this game? Jesus christ...

Is there something wrong with that? ^_^
If his hobby is " resurrection " ( and it is ), he should be doing more resurrecting, damnit! ^_^

This is very true. Rugal being the boss of dream match KOFs is a tradition. If you consider how KOF 94 was SUPPOSED to originally be a dream match (but later got changed into a canon game), Rugal and his "I'll be back!" exploding battleship has been the boss of every KOF dream match so far (all... two of them. 94 and 98). So it makes sense that he'd be the boss of the next one, even if it's kind of boring to have him be as such, IMHO

Rugalbernstein

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"Re(7):Too early" , posted Sun 25 Aug 22:48

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If you consider how KOF 94 was SUPPOSED to originally be a dream match (but later got changed into a canon game

I think this would be pretty difficult to determine, considering it was made 8 years ago. Who knows what they were thinking then? Beings that is clearly a sequel to '94, I'd say it was " canon " from the beginning.. but a good 80% of fighting game storylines is fan made, anyway, so I don't suppose it really matters.

Zyzyfer

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"Re(8):Too early" , posted Sun 25 Aug 22:57

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If you consider how KOF 94 was SUPPOSED to originally be a dream match (but later got changed into a canon game I think this would be pretty difficult to determine, considering it was made 8 years ago. Who knows what they were thinking then? Beings that is clearly a sequel to '94, I'd say it was " canon " from the beginning.. but a good 80% of fighting game storylines is fan made, anyway, so I don't suppose it really matters.

it was advertised as a dream match

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Gen

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"Re(8):Too early" , posted Sun 25 Aug 23:01

quote:
If you consider how KOF 94 was SUPPOSED to originally be a dream match (but later got changed into a canon game I think this would be pretty difficult to determine, considering it was made 8 years ago. Who knows what they were thinking then? Beings that is clearly a sequel to '94, I'd say it was " canon " from the beginning.. but a good 80% of fighting game storylines is fan made, anyway, so I don't suppose it really matters.

Also in that HK magazine interview, they say they like to do a trillogies and that 2002 will be a dream match (without story) like 98 (had small amount of story but was not part of the main KoF story). However in that interview they don't actually say that '94 was a dream match and not part part of the main story.

Dr Baghead

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"Re(9):Too early" , posted Mon 26 Aug 00:25

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However in that interview they don't actually say that '94 was a dream match and not part part of the main story.

Someone who knows KoF 84 well tell me: Did Rugal have "Orochi Powers" in 94?

Because if he didn't it techincally might not be count as part of Orochi storyline...

I mean we don't consider AoF 1-3, Fatal Fury 1-3 and Special, Ikari Warriors, Athena, and Psycho Soliders part of the Orochi Saga... but they do (to an extent) exist in the KoF Universe as a set up to the story...

KoF 94 is probably also a set-up storyline, we're introduced to all the non-Orochi related cast, we meet Rugal, we learn how Saisyu "dies"... but in KoF 95 the Orochi elements really come into play.

so that's my theory, KoF 94 isn't a "Dream match" in the same sense 98 and 2k2 are since it's cannon, but it's not part of the Orochi Story arc either... I know there's a 95% chance I'm dead wrong, but oh well!

Rugal 3 16
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"Re(1):Too early" , posted Mon 26 Aug 00:56

quote:

It is WAY TOO EARLY to tell. He could be a secret character hidden. Even if he is not playable in the arcade, he WILL BE playable in any home versions, just like Zero in 2K DC.

I hope he'll be a secret.

anyway Beta reports said that this Rugal was not exaggerated.. maybe he might be stronger than the rest of the cast but is still built like an only enhanced character.. not a blatant overpowering boss.. much like 95' so I hope you could play as him.

Evil is what keeps life Interesting.. Oh I forgot to add Sex!!

Rugal 3 16
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"Re(1):Too early" , posted Mon 26 Aug 00:56

quote:

It is WAY TOO EARLY to tell. He could be a secret character hidden. Even if he is not playable in the arcade, he WILL BE playable in any home versions, just like Zero in 2K DC.

Evil is what keeps life Interesting.. Oh I forgot to add Sex!!

Izek
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"Re(2):Too early" , posted Mon 26 Aug 01:06

i hear kof'94 was made like an advertisement for the games from which the characters were taken, and snk had no idea the game would become so popular. so i doubt it was anything beyond that at the time.

Gen

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"Re(10):Too early" , posted Mon 26 Aug 02:46

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so that's my theory, KoF 94 isn't a "Dream match" in the same sense 98 and 2k2 are since it's cannon, but it's not part of the Orochi Story arc either... I know there's a 95% chance I'm dead wrong, but oh well!

Sure, I see what you're sayin, there are story elements for Orochi that kick off in 95. I don't really remember any special Orochi elements off the top of my head from 94. 94 leads into 95 and is not an alternate continuity game like 98 and 20002. whoops I mean 2002. it's late!

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I mean we don't consider AoF 1-3, Fatal Fury 1-3 and Special, Ikari Warriors, Athena, and Psycho Soliders part of the Orochi Saga... but they do (to an extent) exist in the KoF Universe as a set up to the story...

They are different story 'arcs', but I like to imagine them as the same continuity. With '99 Robo Army joined the list of contributing games along with the AoF, Garou, Athena, and Ikari games. Some people say that the Football Frenzy is where the football player is from on the Sports team, I haven't played Football Frenzy enough to verify.

I make exception for Athena AFTOL because of the age problems. I haven't played AFTOL yet. I could also come up with some story making it be includable to the KOF continuity. The Psycho Soldiers are immortal and have amnesia. Wala.

I've also read that the character ages in AoF force it out of the KoF continuity. I haven't checked the AoF ages against KoF myself.

I haven't played the game boy game that's ment to take place in '98...

The NeoGeo Pocket games appear to be cutesy pocket games and not really part of the main continuity.

I don't bother linking Last Blade and Samurai Spirits until Playmore gives us a connection. But I like the idea that they could be in the KoF continuity and I don't rule it out.

RugalBernstein

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"Re(9):Too early" , posted Mon 26 Aug 09:18:

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it was advertised as a dream match

No, it wasn't... the phrase " Dream match " meaning " it has nothing to do with the storyline " didn't come about until 1998.

Update: In fact, I thought '98 " had happened " when it first came out, too ( I know several others who did, as well. )

[this message was edited by RugalBernstein on Mon 26 Aug 09:26]

Satoshi_Miwa

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"Re(2):Re(10):Too early" , posted Mon 26 Aug 14:25

The AOF and Fatal Fury timelines have been retconned into KOF world, IIRC. So while their orginal dates don't match, they've been glossed over so they fit with the new KOF world (AOF especially, since it's unlikely we'll ever see a new AOF game).

About the strongest hint of a tie between KOF and Last Blade is Zantestu's ending, which has Eiji in it as the Ninja of the future. If you want to include GB/GBC games as evidence you can look at KOF 95 for the GB, which has Nakoruru as a hidden boss/character. Though both leads are not solid evidence...

Gen

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"Re(10):Too early" , posted Mon 26 Aug 16:40

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it was advertised as a dream match

No, it wasn't... the phrase " Dream match " meaning " it has nothing to do with the storyline " didn't come about until 1998.

Update: In fact, I thought '98 " had happened " when it first came out, too ( I know several others who did, as well. )

When I first played 98 I didn't think that it was not part of the continuity of KoF. I was dissapointed that it had little story. Much later I started to read on the boards that it was not part of the main continuity. I suppose this was trickle down information from Japanese sources. I never saw SNK bother to put any official information in English about this. Then later I played 99 which said in a Star Wars like way, "episode 5". So '94-'97 would be episodes 1-4, and '98 an alternate or extra game to the main continuity. I was kind of dissapointed that '98 was made not part of the main story. It could fit. I wonder if this was SNK's plan all along or if they decided this after they made 98.

TiamatRoar
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"Re(2):Re(10):Too early" , posted Mon 26 Aug 19:37

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When I first played 98 I didn't think that it was not part of the continuity of KoF. I was dissapointed that it had little story. Much later I started to read on the boards that it was not part of the main continuity. I suppose this was trickle down information from Japanese sources. I never saw SNK bother to put any official information in English about this. Then later I played 99 which said in a Star Wars like way, "episode 5". So '94-'97 would be episodes 1-4, and '98 an alternate or extra game to the main continuity. I was kind of dissapointed that '98 was made not part of the main story. It could fit. I wonder if this was SNK's plan all along or if they decided this after they made 98.

Considering how little story it has and how many long-dead characters appear in it, I'm pretty sure they planned it all along.

RugalBernstein

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"Re(3):Re(10):Too early" , posted Mon 26 Aug 22:51

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Considering how little story it has and how many long-dead characters appear in it, I'm pretty sure they planned it all along.

Techincally speaking, any dead character could come back at any time, with little or no reason. It's all up to the game makers. I didn't think twice about it, because you kind of expect " dead " people to come back in fighting games.