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| Iggy 484th Post
 
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|  "KOF 2002 whining corner"
, posted Sat 24 Aug 01:10
Warning : this tread is only for people who didn't played the game, have no clues about it but what they have read on the net, but want to complain anyway.
So, I begin :
The Original Combo thing, if it's true, is stupidity and may screw the game as much as the strikers did. what a super new system!
The casting is a nightmare :
95 No Eiji
96 No bosses, no Goenitz
98 No American Sports Team, No Oyaji Team, NO CHIZURU!!!
99 No Krysalid
2000 No Kasumi, no Juhn
2001 No Foxy, Lin, Bao, NO KING, no....
where is the dream match? WHERE, OH MY GOD!!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!! AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....
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| Burning Kyo 745th Post
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|  "Re(1):KOF 2002 whining corner"
, posted Sat 24 Aug 02:38
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Warning : this tread is only for people who didn't played the game, have no clues about it but what they have read on the net, but want to complain anyway.
So, I begin :
The Original Combo thing, if it's true, is stupidity and may screw the game as much as the strikers did. what a super new system!
The casting is a nightmare :
95 No Eiji
96 No bosses, no Goenitz
98 No American Sports Team, No Oyaji Team, NO CHIZURU!!!
99 No Krysalid
2000 No Kasumi, no Juhn
2001 No Foxy, Lin, Bao, NO KING, no....
where is the dream match? WHERE, OH MY GOD!!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!! AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....
It sucks ! T_T
I will change my f*ckin' 2k2 tag !
"Teme no hono wa nani iro da ?"
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| ninjabastard 633th Post
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|  "Re(1):KOF 2002 whining corner"
, posted Sat 24 Aug 05:51
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Warning : this tread is only for people who didn't played the game, have no clues about it but what they have read on the net, but want to complain anyway.
So, I begin :
The Original Combo thing, if it's true, is stupidity and may screw the game as much as the strikers did. what a super new system!
The casting is a nightmare :
95 No Eiji
96 No bosses, no Goenitz
98 No American Sports Team, No Oyaji Team, NO CHIZURU!!!
99 No Krysalid
2000 No Kasumi, no Juhn
2001 No Foxy, Lin, Bao, NO KING, no....
where is the dream match? WHERE, OH MY GOD!!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!! AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....
I've been saying this since 2k1. No more Eolith. Let SNK do the damn game.
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| ChunliFan 280th Post
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| "Re(2):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Sat 24 Aug 06:25
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Warning : this tread is only for people who didn't played the game, have no clues about it but what they have read on the net, but want to complain anyway.
So, I begin :
The Original Combo thing, if it's true, is stupidity and may screw the game as much as the strikers did. what a super new system!
The casting is a nightmare :
95 No Eiji
96 No bosses, no Goenitz
98 No American Sports Team, No Oyaji Team, NO CHIZURU!!!
99 No Krysalid
2000 No Kasumi, no Juhn
2001 No Foxy, Lin, Bao, NO KING, no....
**Goes back to playing 2k1 with a sad look on his face...**. NO KING is just wrong ok.
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| Satoshi_Miwa 1394th Post
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| "Re(2):From another beta tester..." , posted Sat 24 Aug 06:40
A couple of comments:
1) No more Nona, please...His art just isn't that good (Especially his mature art...UGH). Get back the 2k artist, who produced the best win and intro screens in KOF
2) Custom Combo system? Ohh boy, I can see some infinites and big time combos coming soon. I don't think this KOF is going to have a forgiving learning curve...
3) No King? OMG they took out one of my favorite characters damn it...x.x And not only that, it ruins the orginal Fighting females reunion I've been witing for....I AM not please with this...
4) But in the same vein, I feel sorry for Poor May Lee, who took some heat for replacing Jhun on some boards. She's probably going to take more heat for this...
5) Eoltih and Playmore should of just made a new game if they couldn't have gotten all the KOFers into the game. Dreamatches aren't missing core KOFers, or characters that have been with the system since day 1...
6) I'll still play it, though, just to have a Vice, Kula, and Yuri team...^^
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| Dr Baghead 1430th Post
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| "Re(1):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Sat 24 Aug 10:06
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where is the dream match? WHERE, OH MY GOD!!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!! AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....
Maybe I'm just not picky though, but I find plenty here to like... the Orochis, Leona with 2 forms, 97 Special Team... but the games cast isn't that bad
sure they took away King, and didn't bring back Geese and Eiji, and we'll probably need to enter some huge code just to play Shingo... but Bao's gone! that's a plus right...
[sarcasim]but I mean what right have we to complain? We're just fans whose money has support a game most of the world considers 'too out of date' for all these years. We should be happy Eolith decided to make a dream match, even if they did omit many characters people like, some of whom even Capcom knew to include, instead of giving the series a much needed break for a year, right? [/sarcasim]
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| Bootation
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|  "Re(2):KOF 2002 whining corner"
, posted Sat 24 Aug 12:18
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where is the dream match? WHERE, OH MY GOD!!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!! AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....
Maybe I'm just not picky though, but I find plenty here to like... the Orochis, Leona with 2 forms, 97 Special Team... but the games cast isn't that bad
sure they took away King, and didn't bring back Geese and Eiji, and we'll probably need to enter some huge code just to play Shingo... but Bao's gone! that's a plus right...
[sarcasim]but I mean what right have we to complain? We're just fans whose money has support a game most of the world considers 'too out of date' for all these years. We should be happy Eolith decided to make a dream match, even if they did omit many characters people like, some of whom even Capcom knew to include, instead of giving the series a much needed break for a year, right? [/sarcasim]
No Lin?
Oh well i guess its for the best they totally fucked him up in 2k1.
Does Terry finally have a sprite change? i liked him better kof 94-95.
Kensou is awesome. Im glad Yashiro is back.
Rugal is boring ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Kof 98 had some cool taunts between characters but its a pretty fugly game in my opinion.
I dont miss eiji hes a cheap bastard. I would rather play Lucky Glauber.
Vice and mature? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
This game looks like a snoozer.
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| CrazyMike
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| "Re(1):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Sat 24 Aug 13:36
This is the best example of laziness I have EVER seen in a game. Eolith worked at LEAST 9 months, if not more and what can they show for it, only a few new backgrounds, very little move changes, mostly tweaks, ripped music from past kof's from what I hear, and thats pretty much it. Where is the work in this game? there are no new sprite characters at all, it is just a copy and paste game that would even shock Capcom, hell even 98 had new sprites for Takuma, Heidern and Omega Rugal along with the sports team, and I could of sworn I read that Eolith complained in interviews that meeting the deadline for October would be close to comeby, well I believe that is a total lie because this is something that could be whipped up by a dedicated group with Mugen in 1-2 months. I have always loved KOF because every year they have been able to give us new characters or sprite edits on older fighters so that each new installment wouldn't feel stale, but this is just ridiculous.
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| Muchiko
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| "Re(6):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Sat 24 Aug 15:45
They can't satify everyone?
How many people actually play Ramon/Maxima/Seth? Seth is the most popular of these three... but comparing them to Jhun Hoon in popularity is like nothing! Nothing I tell you! Jhun Hoon is the best character ever created, period.
If May Lee can go to Women's team and kick out King, why can't Jhun go to Psycho team and kick out the almost dead Chin?
I don't expect much from SvC either. Personally I'm not looking forward to it at all, unless Jhun is in it (which is NULL in probability). But if you play Capcom games, then I guess you would look forward to it, but all the hardcore KOF players just play KOF (China/Korea/Singapore). Hence, releasing that game to an MVS has a high possibility that it will stink bomb simply because Capcom players won't even bother with it anyway, because it's for the MVS. And most KOF players just play KOF, so there is nothing there. And the one big reason why KOF players won't play it is because it is not developed by KOF developers, Brezzasoft (or so I heard).
When I mean KOF players, I mean the people that plays KOF in the arcades regularly with competitions.
Of course I will play KOF2002, and it MIGHT just be the most balanced KOF ever (kicking 2001 out of the throne) and I hope it will get beta tested here also at Southern Hills Golfland pretty soon. I just expected KOF2002 to change more drastically... no, instead they went and visit '98 for lunch.
At least almost all of my favorite characters are 2002... but I rather take Jhun Hoon over all of them combined; the ONLY reason why I want to boycott 2002.
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| justicekyo 286th Post
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| "Re(1):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Sat 24 Aug 18:33
quote:
Warning : this tread is only for people who didn't played the game, have no clues about it but what they have read on the net, but want to complain anyway.
So, I begin :
The Original Combo thing, if it's true, is stupidity and may screw the game as much as the strikers did. what a super new system!
The casting is a nightmare :
95 No Eiji
96 No bosses, no Goenitz
98 No American Sports Team, No Oyaji Team, NO CHIZURU!!!
99 No Krysalid
2000 No Kasumi, no Juhn
2001 No Foxy, Lin, Bao, NO KING, no....
where is the dream match? WHERE, OH MY GOD!!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!! AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....
FUCK YOU EOLITH! YOU FUCKED UP OVER 8 YEARS OF HARD WORK!
you'll never, EVER get my support again!
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| High-Octane
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| "KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Sat 24 Aug 23:35
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Warning : this tread is only for people who didn't played the game, have no clues about it but what they have read on the net, but want to complain anyway.
So, I begin :
The Original Combo thing, if it's true, is stupidity and may screw the game as much as the strikers did. what a super new system!
The casting is a nightmare :
95 No Eiji
96 No bosses, no Goenitz
98 No American Sports Team, No Oyaji Team, NO CHIZURU!!!
99 No Krysalid
2000 No Kasumi, no Juhn
2001 No Foxy, Lin, Bao, NO KING, no....
where is the dream match? WHERE, OH MY GOD!!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!! AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....
I don't give a damn as long as K9999 is still around! WOOOHOOO!
K9999!!!
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| Muchiko
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| "Re(10):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Sun 25 Aug 17:48
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No, I'm saying the majority of KOF players don't regularly go to 'tournaments.' And I seriously doubt that the majority go to the arcade every day for three-five hours; that's effectively spending faster than you can earn (particularly since you're at the arcade and *gasp* not at work)
Well, HK lifestyle is very different compared to most countries. From a HK friend who used to live there told me that people there work for a certain amount of time, take a break and play KOF, go back to work, then KOF again... and so on. And it's not hard to find KOF since it's almost everywhere; just walk across the street and there it is.
If you work eight hours a day, or full time for that matter, you would have time for two or three hours a day at the arcade. And on weekends you can do whatever you want.
I have school and work yet I have time to play KOF if I wanted to, but since there is no competition here in America I only play on Friday's night where there is competition (China Town only). One day a week of KOF is a lot in my view, however.
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You're not so special that Jhun has to be in every KOF, and once you get back to the sheer reality that your opinion of who should be in and who shouldn't means jack to whoever's making KOF, we can be reasonable again.
Why Eolith even bother to have a poll about which character should be in or out if they don't live up to it? Geese/Eiji/Jhun aren't in the game. God knows how many people are dying to have Geese and Eiji back. But I know for a fact that Jhun is hella popular and not having him in a dream match game is just awe struct.
I only complain because this is a complaining thread and I am a Jhun worshipper.
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Seriously, who was surprised that May Lee was in this game?
Almost everyone, especially when she kicked King out of the woman team. This IS the most surprising news so far about 2002, if you haven't notice (look at all the posts about it). And I can't recall how many people wanted to shoot May Lee because she replaced Jhun in 2001. So a dorky character like May Lee has the capability to kick both OG King and Master Jhun out of the game; just another reason May Lee should be shot.
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| High-Octane
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| "Re(2):Re(10):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Sun 25 Aug 23:29
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No, I'm saying the majority of KOF players don't regularly go to 'tournaments.' And I seriously doubt that the majority go to the arcade every day for three-five hours; that's effectively spending faster than you can earn (particularly since you're at the arcade and *gasp* not at work)
Well, HK lifestyle is very different compared to most countries. From a HK friend who used to live there told me that people there work for a certain amount of time, take a break and play KOF, go back to work, then KOF again... and so on. And it's not hard to find KOF since it's almost everywhere; just walk across the street and there it is.
If you work eight hours a day, or full time for that matter, you would have time for two or three hours a day at the arcade. And on weekends you can do whatever you want.
I have school and work yet I have time to play KOF if I wanted to, but since there is no competition here in America I only play on Friday's night where there is competition (China Town only). One day a week of KOF is a lot in my view, however.
You're not so special that Jhun has to be in every KOF, and once you get back to the sheer reality that your opinion of who should be in and who shouldn't means jack to whoever's making KOF, we can be reasonable again.
Why Eolith even bother to have a poll about which character should be in or out if they don't live up to it? Geese/Eiji/Jhun aren't in the game. God knows how many people are dying to have Geese and Eiji back. But I know for a fact that Jhun is hella popular and not having him in a dream match game is just awe struct.
I only complain because this is a complaining thread and I am a Jhun worshipper.
Seriously, who was surprised that May Lee was in this game?
Almost everyone, especially when she kicked King out of the woman team. This IS the most surprising news so far about 2002, if you haven't notice (look at all the posts about it). And I can't recall how many people wanted to shoot May Lee because she replaced Jhun in 2001. So a dorky character like May Lee has the capability to kick both OG King and Master Jhun out of the game; just another reason May Lee should be shot.
Becareful, she might just do her "Justice" SDM on you! L L!
No one can contain my awesome power!
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| Dr Baghead 1443th Post
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| "Re(2):Re(10):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Mon 26 Aug 00:49
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Why Eolith even bother to have a poll about which character should be in or out if they don't live up to it? Geese/Eiji/Jhun aren't in the game. God knows how many people are dying to have Geese and Eiji back. But I know for a fact that Jhun is hella popular and not having him in a dream match game is just awe struct.
Jhun might be a popular character, but he's no Billy Kane, Yamazaki, or the New Face Team... when you consider they're back there's no denying the voting was listened too and everyone who isn't whinning "oh I like [blah] best! they're so popular! they must have been voted back in because I said so!" should be happy...
I swear people only like Eiji because he was teamed with Billy and Iori, if he had made his debue teamed with Bao and Brain no one would have cried to see him go. Anyone who voted for him (I *might* be among those people) only did so because they want 95 Yagami Team, not Eiji himself.
Geese and Rugal have an agreement, Rugal will boss MVS Dream matches, and Geese will boss in the shitty GBA games that take their place in the offical storyline... so that's why he's not in...
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Almost everyone, especially when she kicked King out of the woman team. This IS the most surprising news so far about 2002, if you haven't notice (look at all the posts about it). And I can't recall how many people wanted to shoot May Lee because she replaced Jhun in 2001. So a dorky character like May Lee has the capability to kick both OG King and Master Jhun out of the game; just another reason May Lee should be shot.
Like I said before... YURI bumped King from the team, not May-Lee, it's all Yuri's fault. YURI TRICKED KING!!! MAY-LEE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!!!
Aside from which, even if this is a dream match Jhun was probably too stupid to make it to the game... he probably saw another poster of Athena and ran across the street yelling "Hey! Athena! Over here!" just like last time... then was hit by a car, stomped on by a circus parade (featuring elephants AND clowns on unicycles) his flattened remained were shocked by lighnting and everything but his eyes burnt to crisp and blew away in a strong wind, his eyes fell to ground and blink twiced...
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| High-Octane
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| "Re(3):Re(10):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Mon 26 Aug 00:55
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Why Eolith even bother to have a poll about which character should be in or out if they don't live up to it? Geese/Eiji/Jhun aren't in the game. God knows how many people are dying to have Geese and Eiji back. But I know for a fact that Jhun is hella popular and not having him in a dream match game is just awe struct.
Jhun might be a popular character, but he's no Billy Kane, Yamazaki, or the New Face Team... when you consider they're back there's no denying the voting was listened too and everyone who isn't whinning "oh I like [blah] best! they're so popular! they must have been voted back in because I said so!" should be happy...
I swear people only like Eiji because he was teamed with Billy and Iori, if he had made his debue teamed with Bao and Brain no one would have cried to see him go. Anyone who voted for him (I *might* be among those people) only did so because they want 95 Yagami Team, not Eiji himself.
Geese and Rugal have an agreement, Rugal will boss MVS Dream matches, and Geese will boss in the shitty GBA games that take their place in the offical storyline... so that's why he's not in...
Almost everyone, especially when she kicked King out of the woman team. This IS the most surprising news so far about 2002, if you haven't notice (look at all the posts about it). And I can't recall how many people wanted to shoot May Lee because she replaced Jhun in 2001. So a dorky character like May Lee has the capability to kick both OG King and Master Jhun out of the game; just another reason May Lee should be shot.
Like I said before... YURI bumped King from the team, not May-Lee, it's all Yuri's fault. YURI TRICKED KING!!! MAY-LEE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!!!
Aside from which, even if this is a dream match Jhun was probably too stupid to make it to the game... he probably saw another poster of Athena and ran across the street yelling "Hey! Athena! Over here!" just like last time... then was hit by a car, stomped on by a circus parade (featuring elephants AND clowns on unicycles) his flattened remained were shocked by lighnting and everything but his eyes burnt to crisp and blew away in a strong wind, his eyes fell to ground and blink twiced...
LL! Good one about Jhun there Mr. Baghead! Maybe we will get to see him in the background with bandages all over!
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| Gen 562th Post
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| "Re(2):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Mon 26 Aug 03:15
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This is the best example of laziness I have EVER seen in a game. Eolith worked at LEAST 9 months, if not more and what can they show for it, only a few new backgrounds, very little move changes, mostly tweaks, ripped music from past kof's from what I hear, and thats pretty much it. Where is the work in this game? there are no new sprite characters at all, it is just a copy and paste game that would even shock Capcom, hell even 98 had new sprites for Takuma, Heidern and Omega Rugal along with the sports team, and I could of sworn I read that Eolith complained in interviews that meeting the deadline for October would be close to comeby, well I believe that is a total lie because this is something that could be whipped up by a dedicated group with Mugen in 1-2 months. I have always loved KOF because every year they have been able to give us new characters or sprite edits on older fighters so that each new installment wouldn't feel stale, but this is just ridiculous.
I also wonder about that. Are they just lazy? Do they just not give them selves enough time to make a great KoF game? Hardware isn't what's stopping them. Look at how nice some parts of some older KoFs looked. I would like to see their schedules. Or 'minutes'.
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| Izek
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| "Re(3):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Mon 26 Aug 05:07
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This is the best example of laziness I have EVER seen in a game. Eolith worked at LEAST 9 months, if not more and what can they show for it, only a few new backgrounds, very little move changes, mostly tweaks, ripped music from past kof's from what I hear, and thats pretty much it. Where is the work in this game? there are no new sprite characters at all, it is just a copy and paste game that would even shock Capcom, hell even 98 had new sprites for Takuma, Heidern and Omega Rugal along with the sports team, and I could of sworn I read that Eolith complained in interviews that meeting the deadline for October would be close to comeby, well I believe that is a total lie because this is something that could be whipped up by a dedicated group with Mugen in 1-2 months. I have always loved KOF because every year they have been able to give us new characters or sprite edits on older fighters so that each new installment wouldn't feel stale, but this is just ridiculous.
I also wonder about that. Are they just lazy? Do they just not give them selves enough time to make a great KoF game? Hardware isn't what's stopping them. Look at how nice some parts of some older KoFs looked. I would like to see their schedules. Or 'minutes'.
i think its cuz only 25 people worked on the project and Eolith ain't got to much cash.
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| Muchiko
54th Post
Occasional Customer
| "Re(3):Re(10):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Mon 26 Aug 05:14
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Jhun might be a popular character, but he's no Billy Kane, Yamazaki, or the New Face Team... when you consider they're back there's no denying the voting was listened too and everyone who isn't whinning "oh I like [blah] best!
Am I just stupid or Billy Kane is more popular than I thought? For one I never seen anyone picked him in '98 simply because he was one of the weaker characters. Jhun in the other hand was most popular in some arcades like Taiwan. Or so I heard. And he is especially popular in '99. And is certainly picked more often than Yamazaki and Billy combined in their respective games.
I think the only reason why Billy made the cut is because Yamazaki got voted in, and the only way to make a good team with him is to bring back Billy; plus, this also serve as a place for Mary as well... in the end, Brezza made teams with the titles '97/'98/'99/'00/'01 team names for stupid reasons like this.
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I swear people only like Eiji because he was teamed with Billy and Iori, if he had made his debue teamed with Bao and Brain no one would have cried to see him go.
So you're saying the popularity of a character depends on their teammates and not themselves? With your example, Athena and Kensou won't be cried by fans if they were axed cuz they teamed up with Bao? What kind of logic is that?
Eiji probably was voted in like Yamazaki, but since there is no place for him, I guess they just ignored him; probably the same thing with Geese. But I don't see a reason of not having edit characters like Rugal and Shingo is to '98.
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Anyone who voted for him (I *might* be among those people) only did so because they want 95 Yagami Team, not Eiji himself.
This is only true if you're talking about a solid team like the Sport team. '95 Yagami team is out of place, '98 Yagami team with Vice and Mature, however, is more suitable.
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Like I said before... YURI bumped King from the team, not May-Lee, it's all Yuri's fault. YURI TRICKED KING!!! MAY-LEE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!!!
I know this is semi-sarcasm. However, a Yuri/King/Mai team would make MUCH more sense as it is the '94 OG team, not some Yuri/Mai and a dork team.
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Aside from which, even if this is a dream match Jhun was probably too stupid to make it to the game...
Oh yeah, I've seen a lot of these jokes. It goes to show how SNK can make a stupid storyline and ruin a perfectly good character in the process. Even a cement truck won't kill Jhun. He is God. Too godly to make it to 2002.
There might be hope for Jhun though. I haven't heard anything about him being in the backgrounds... being in the backgrounds is a sure way to know that a character is not selectable in the game. Wait, nevermind... in 1998 you see characters like Ralf/Clark in the background, but it's hard to spot due to its ultra small sprites.
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| Dr Baghead 1447th Post
Red Carpet Executive Member
| "Re(4):Re(10):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Mon 26 Aug 10:52
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Am I just stupid or Billy Kane is more popular than I thought? For one I never seen anyone picked him in '98 simply because he was one of the weaker characters. Jhun in the other hand was most popular in some arcades like Taiwan. Or so I heard. And he is especially popular in '99. And is certainly picked more often than Yamazaki and Billy combined in their respective games.
I think the only reason why Billy made the cut is because Yamazaki got voted in, and the only way to make a good team with him is to bring back Billy; plus, this also serve as a place for Mary as well... in the end, Brezza made teams with the titles '97/'98/'99/'00/'01 team names for stupid reasons like this.
Yes, Billy Kane is that popular, he was actually voted into 1997 and most fans have been hoping and preying he'd return since then.
and even if Jhun is more popular in Taiwan in some arcades the polls were held world wide, and Billy, being an old Fatal Fury character has an edge over someone a lot of people liked in 99 because of his cool hair. (and let's not kid ourselves, he has some nice hair)
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So you're saying the popularity of a character depends on their teammates and not themselves? With your example, Athena and Kensou won't be cried by fans if they were axed cuz they teamed up with Bao? What kind of logic is that?
Eiji probably was voted in like Yamazaki, but since there is no place for him, I guess they just ignored him; probably the same thing with Geese. But I don't see a reason of not having edit characters like Rugal and Shingo is to '98.
okay, I'll admit my comments about Eiji only being popular because of his team were out of line... but I still can't agree he was popular enough to be considered for a return, especially considering those who were actually returned to the game and Geese out rank him in true popularity.
And IF Kensou and Athena had debued with Bao, Bao would just have gone away... when a team is made up of one good character, the whole team dies out (ie-Sports Team and depending on who you ask that one good character is either Heavy D! or Lucky)... but in the case of teams with two good characters only the weak link goes away (notice Billy and Iori stay in KoF? but were's Eiji?)
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This is only true if you're talking about a solid team like the Sport team. '95 Yagami team is out of place, '98 Yagami team with Vice and Mature, however, is more suitable.
no arguement here, 96/98 Yagami Team beats the Hell out of his 95 Team in every way.
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I know this is semi-sarcasm. However, a Yuri/King/Mai team would make MUCH more sense as it is the '94 OG team, not some Yuri/Mai and a dork team.
That was not sarcasm Yuri has been on the AoF team more years then the woman's team, May-Lee if anything blocked Kasumi, Hinako, and Xiangfei from the game... but like in 2000 Yuri is the one who replaces King.
To me a Mai/King/May-Lee team is a far better sounding idea to Mai/Yuri/King... if not because we already have a team of 3 Yuri-like characters, then because Yuri is annoying
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Oh yeah, I've seen a lot of these jokes. It goes to show how SNK can make a stupid storyline and ruin a perfectly good character in the process. Even a cement truck won't kill Jhun. He is God. Too godly to make it to 2002.
Yep, a cement truck won't kill him... just wound him a zany manor... I assume when he was hit a band play "Do-do-dodo-do-do-dodo-DO! Blaaaaaaap" while he spun in the air and smacked the ground...
and while we're on the topic of backgrounds he should get his own stage! In Round 1 he's running in to join the fight and is hit by many many cars. In Round 2 the police and paramedics arrive. In Round 3 he's all bandaged up and is hit by the cars again! Round 4 and 5 are the same as 2 and 3...
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| Gen 564th Post
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| "Re(4):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Mon 26 Aug 12:37
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This is the best example of laziness I have EVER seen in a game. Eolith worked at LEAST 9 months, if not more and what can they show for it, only a few new backgrounds, very little move changes, mostly tweaks, ripped music from past kof's from what I hear, and thats pretty much it. Where is the work in this game? there are no new sprite characters at all, it is just a copy and paste game that would even shock Capcom, hell even 98 had new sprites for Takuma, Heidern and Omega Rugal along with the sports team, and I could of sworn I read that Eolith complained in interviews that meeting the deadline for October would be close to comeby, well I believe that is a total lie because this is something that could be whipped up by a dedicated group with Mugen in 1-2 months. I have always loved KOF because every year they have been able to give us new characters or sprite edits on older fighters so that each new installment wouldn't feel stale, but this is just ridiculous.
I also wonder about that. Are they just lazy? Do they just not give them selves enough time to make a great KoF game? Hardware isn't what's stopping them. Look at how nice some parts of some older KoFs looked. I would like to see their schedules. Or 'minutes'.
i think its cuz only 25 people worked on the project and Eolith ain't got to much cash.
True. Do most big Japanese made games get more people? I've never made a commercial game, but if I did I'd actually want the number of people to be able to fit in one room at the company offices, although they would probably often work in seperate rooms.
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| Muchiko
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Occasional Customer
| "Re(5):Re(10):KOF 2002 whining corner" , posted Mon 26 Aug 15:59
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Yes, Billy Kane is that popular, he was actually voted into 1997 and most fans have been hoping and preying he'd return since then.
Yes, but I'm not too sure if that poll was for any SNK character or just FF games as they all are from FF. And it's funny that Geese isn't even as popular as any them, if SNK actually did that poll correctly.
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and even if Jhun is more popular in Taiwan in some arcades the polls were held world wide, and Billy, being an old Fatal Fury character has an edge over someone a lot of people liked in 99 because of his cool hair. (and let's not kid ourselves, he has some nice hair)
I kid you not, Jhun is popular world-wide. Even a female player in Singapore played Jhun in '99 doing his infinites. ^_^
I will wait for 2002 and if ONE single player picked Billy Kane for the first week at this Chinese arcade, then I'd know that he is popular for sure.
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And IF Kensou and Athena had debued with Bao, Bao would just have gone away... when a team is made up of one good character, the whole team dies out (ie-Sports Team and depending on who you ask that one good character is either Heavy D! or Lucky)...
Well, actually, Brian is my favorite sport team. And he was actually my first character that I was planning to write a char guide on in '98. I find his gameplay to be more likeable. But this is of course just my preference.
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but in the case of teams with two good characters only the weak link goes away (notice Billy and Iori stay in KoF? but were's Eiji?)
I think I see the picture now... A lot of people want Eiji back, but I guess Billy is more popular.
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That was not sarcasm Yuri has been on the AoF team more years then the woman's team, May-Lee if anything blocked Kasumi, Hinako, and Xiangfei from the game... but like in 2000 Yuri is the one who replaces King.
I'm not quite sure what you are talking about... but Yuri has only been in the AOF team in '99 and '01. King was in AOF team in '00. Similar thing with Mary and Mai to FF team of those three years. Basically, it's more suitable to have Yuri/King/Mai back to their original team than them moving in and out of it. I mean most of the 2002 roster are in OG team format, and Brezza themselves even admits the team by labeling them in years. Maybe the case for King's departure was that May Lee is more popular than King.
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and while we're on the topic of backgrounds he should get his own stage! In Round 1 he's running in to join the fight and is hit by many many cars. In Round 2 the police and paramedics arrive. In Round 3 he's all bandaged up and is hit by the cars again! Round 4 and 5 are the same as 2 and 3...
If so, I will complain even more.
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| Muchiko
59th Post
Occasional Customer
| "Doh!" , posted Mon 26 Aug 21:40
Jhun is in the background, he is officially out of 2002! It is a good day to die:
King, Bao, Tung Fu Ru, Lucky, Heavy D!, Brian, Eiji, Duck King, Kasumi and her father Ryuhaku Todoh, Eiji, Krauser Wolfgang, Mr Big, Geese Howard, Li Xiang Fei, Honfu, Lin, GriffonMask, Kim Sue Il, Cheng Shinzan, Bob Wilson, the Jin Brothers, Jhun, Marco Rodriguez, Heidern, Wang (AOF3) and Yubei Yamada can be seen in the stage backgrounds.
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| Dr Baghead 1451th Post
Red Carpet Executive Member
| "Re(1):Doh!" , posted Mon 26 Aug 22:00
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Jhun is in the background, he is officially out of 2002! It is a good day to die:
King, Bao, Tung Fu Ru, Lucky, Heavy D!, Brian, Eiji, Duck King, Kasumi and her father Ryuhaku Todoh, Eiji, Krauser Wolfgang, Mr Big, Geese Howard, Li Xiang Fei, Honfu, Lin, GriffonMask, Kim Sue Il, Cheng Shinzan, Bob Wilson, the Jin Brothers, Jhun, Marco Rodriguez, Heidern, Wang (AOF3) and Yubei Yamada can be seen in the stage backgrounds.
Drats! and it's not my car level either!
(reads a FAQ about MUGEN stage creation) I'll just rip some Jhun sprites and make it for MY Dreamatch then
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"Re(3):KOF 2002 whining corner" 
is gone for now :( .
One of my faves. But oh well,certain sacrifices must be made. 
That makes me happy.
laugh:L! Good one about Jhun there Mr. Baghead! Maybe we will get to see him in the background with bandages all over! 
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