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Iron D

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"Is the industry lacking originality?" , posted Thu 22 Aug 12:52

I mean, this holiday season is going to have a TON of awesome games (Smackdown! Shut Your Mouth is a the top of my list), but when you sit back and look at them, you see sequel upon sequel with very few original games. The only totally original game I can think of is Kingdom Hearts! Maybe Red Dead Revolver, but I'm not sure when that'll be released.

Now, sequels are not a bad thing by any means, but it's kinda sad that companies aren't doing many new thing lately...

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Radish
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"Re(1):Is the industry lacking originality?" , posted Thu 22 Aug 13:05

quote:
I mean, this holiday season is going to have a TON of awesome games (Smackdown! Shut Your Mouth is a the top of my list), but when you sit back and look at them, you see sequel upon sequel with very few original games. The only totally original game I can think of is Kingdom Hearts! Maybe Red Dead Revolver, but I'm not sure when that'll be released.

Now, sequels are not a bad thing by any means, but it's kinda sad that companies aren't doing many new thing lately...

I don't think so. The industry has always expunged a load of crap and a smaller percentage of grade-A titles. It's just that it's easy to forget the multitude of mediocre stuff that was released in the past. We are going through a period in which the generic sequels and license stuff outnumbers the good, but by early 2003 some real quality is going to be released in the form of Star Ocean, Auto Modelista, FFXI, Maken X and many others.
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talbaineric

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"Re(1):Is the industry lacking originality?" , posted Thu 22 Aug 15:07

Well,platformers wise,theres a lot of originality! Tons!

Sly Cooper is a good example.

Iron D

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"Re(2):Is the industry lacking originality?" , posted Thu 22 Aug 16:26:

Hmmm...I guess I overlooked games like Sly Cooper and Blinx and the lot, but that's probably because those games don't look all that interesting to me...

BTW, Eric love the tag!

*drools at the site of his beloved Leona....*

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[this message was edited by Iron D on Thu 22 Aug 16:26]

Satoshi_Miwa

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"Re(1):Is the industry lacking originality?" , posted Thu 22 Aug 17:25

The Game industry is driven by money, and as the costs to produce and release games rises then the amount of orginality in games tend to decrease. It's a sad side effect of the modern industry, as it begins to take on more and more traits of the film industry...(Notice how alot of the orginal, non-sequal games also seem to have a lot in common with other games that came before them).

That said, I'm still pumped about the lineup this year so I'm still happy...(More tales, Star Ocean 3, etc...:)

Rid Hershel

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"Nope" , posted Thu 22 Aug 17:37

The game industry is lacking people who buys original games. Jet Set Radio wan't very succesful, same happened with Rez. Look at the magazines, always hyping Metal Gear or the next Final Fantasy...

talbaineric

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"Re(3):Is the industry lacking originality?" , posted Thu 22 Aug 17:40

quote:
Hmmm...I guess I overlooked games like Sly Cooper and Blinx and the lot, but that's probably because those games don't look all that interesting to me...

BTW, Eric love the tag!

*drools at the site of his beloved Leona....*

Thanks Iron D!

Yes,Leona's a hottie!

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Radish
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"Re(1):Nope" , posted Thu 22 Aug 17:43:

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The game industry is lacking people who buys original games. Jet Set Radio wan't very succesful, same happened with Rez. Look at the magazines, always hyping Metal Gear or the next Final Fantasy...

I would have loved to buy either Rez or Jet Grind Radio Future, but Sega released about 14 copies of Rez and put JGRF on a system with very little Japanese support.

[this message was edited by Radish on Thu 22 Aug 17:59]

Rid Hershel

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"Re(2):Nope" , posted Thu 22 Aug 19:05

The japanese Rez has the english languaje as an option, by the way, it's import-friendly.

And anyway, people is always afraid of trying new things, that's the true.
*points at all the people hyping about a King of Fighters without any new character, and the ones that complain all the time because "SF3 needs X character to return"*

And that's is my opinion only, of course.

ONSLAUGHT

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"Re(3):Nope" , posted Thu 22 Aug 19:16

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*points at all the people hyping about a King of Fighters without any new character, and the ones that complain all the time because "SF3 needs X character to return"*

And that's is my opinion only, of course.

And I think almost the same.

People is afraid of trying new things, I love the SF III roster because it's fresh, but many people seems to not like it...

And am I the only one awaiting axiously for Tenchu 3???

wingzero

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"Re(4):Nope" , posted Thu 22 Aug 19:36

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And am I the only one awaiting axiously for Tenchu 3???

ONSLAUGHT, i am dying to play Tenchu 3. I love Tenchu!

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Sklathill
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"Re(5):Nope" , posted Thu 22 Aug 21:36

1) Rid has a GREAT GREAT banner there.

2) Eh...at least there's enough quality games out there. There's more than what I can purchase, I know that much...

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Iggy

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"Re(4):Nope" , posted Fri 23 Aug 00:07

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People is afraid of trying new things, I love the SF III roster because it's fresh, but many people seems to not like it...
And am I the only one awaiting axiously for Tenchu 3???

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ONSLAUGHT!!!!!!
WHAT IS THIS AVATAR!!!!

ONSLAUGHT

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"Re(5):Nope" , posted Fri 23 Aug 00:14

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yes, I waiAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
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WHAT IS THIS AVATAR!!!!

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Iggy

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"Re(6):Nope" , posted Fri 23 Aug 00:23

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It's the almighty pussy, do you like it?

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ONSLAUGHT

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"Re(7):Nope" , posted Fri 23 Aug 01:14

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Good boy!
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Shin ATproof

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"My two cents...." , posted Fri 23 Aug 02:04:

Gungrave...RedDeadRevolver...Kingdom Hearts...Jojo's Bizarre Adventure...Auto Modellista

Looking at games like these makes me believe that originality still exists and these are just PS2 games mind you........I have almost no problem with sequels espeically with games like Devil May Cry 2, Onimusha 2, Breath of Fire 5, Tekken 4, Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance, Ape Escape 2...same idea new game...perfect.

Edit:My only problem is finding the money to buy these kick ass titles.

[this message was edited by Shin ATproof on Fri 23 Aug 02:06]

Grynn
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"Re(1):Nope" , posted Fri 23 Aug 02:51

quote:
The game industry is lacking people who buys original games. Jet Set Radio wan't very succesful, same happened with Rez. Look at the magazines, always hyping Metal Gear or the next Final Fantasy...

So true...

I also remember people saying that Capcom was not innovative enough

And when they first released SF III, the first comments were: where is Guile, where is <insert returning character>...

Yare Yare ^_^'

Gojira

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"Re(1):Is the industry lacking originality?" , posted Fri 23 Aug 02:54

Well there's really no big advance in the industry lately so most games just aren't interesting. Whether you liked 3D games or not you have to admit the whole 3D revolution opened up a lot of new experiences. Now that we've grown out of that though, it's kind of hard to get excited about much. Games are even more expensive to produce now than they were before PS2, GC, or XB so developers won't take many chances on expensive new ideas.

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Izek
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"Re(2):Is the industry lacking originality?" , posted Fri 23 Aug 03:16

(its already released but i think The Mark of Kri is pretty original.

it has a very innovative fighting system and excellent visuals. it has almost beat em up like fighting and stealth (with different stealth kills for evry weapon) all in one. some of the combo finishers are damn violent too.

(exaple of a violent combo finisher (SPOILER!!!):
after bashing the guy Kri thrusts his spear like weapon into the chest area (i think ) of the enemy, then slowly picks him up by the spear, stomps the spear on the ground staking the enemy in the proccess and taking it out of him fronm the other side)

sabo10
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"Re(6):Nope" , posted Fri 23 Aug 04:25

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1) Rid has a GREAT GREAT banner there.

It seems like 75% of the posts on this board are about people's avatar's and banners.

BTW Sklathill, nice avatar. Isn't it creepy how Azuma is always taking pictures of his dolls?

Rid Hershel

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"Re(6):Nope" , posted Fri 23 Aug 06:06

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1) Rid has a GREAT GREAT banner there.

Poor, poor Satan-sama. He needs to date Rulue... And Arle is eeeevil.

Hungrywolf

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"Re(1):Is the industry lacking originality?" , posted Fri 23 Aug 10:41

I believe the most recently bought original game I have is Eternal Darkness, and it IS original. Despite what you may think of it before playing it, it has very few similarities with survival horror games, especially because it's psychologically scary. If you don't know what I'm talking about, play the game, it's incredibly good. But, that is only one game that's been released recently. There are other original games out there though, people just don't try them out, like others have said.

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Sklathill
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"Kiyohiko Azuma's website?" , posted Sat 24 Aug 23:06

Speaking of Azuma, does anyone here remember his website? ^^;;; I can't find my bookmark anymore... :\

quote:
1) Rid has a GREAT GREAT banner there.

It seems like 75% of the posts on this board are about people's avatar's and banners.

BTW Sklathill, nice avatar. Isn't it creepy how Azuma is always taking pictures of his dolls?

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