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| pointystick 836th Post
 
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|  "Re(5):anime fans...get ready to crap yourselv"
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Hangul is a completely phonetic character set created by a king around AD 600 (if I remember the history correctly) to replace Chinese characters, because he was annoyed that his country was so damned illterate. It was one of the most progressive and radical language experiments ever conducted and it succeeded.
Hangul characters are made of usually about three sub-syllables, they together make up a syllable. If I remember correctly, you read the characters themselves from top to bottom, left to right (the same as if you were reading the radicals of kanji). Looking at the hangul, it sure doesn't look like they were derived from kanji (or hanja in Korean), but maybe.
For instance, the subsyllables "hu" "yu" and "n" would form a character pronounced "hyun". At least, that's how I remember my friend's lecture. There are also all these screwy special cases I don't remember.
Japanese and Korean share quite a bit of vocabulary though, and I have been told that the farther north you go in Japan and the further south you go in Korea, the more similar the languages get. One thing to note is that Korean does use a Chinese character every here and there, especially in newspapers, and Koreans have kanji for their name. If you read my friend's name by Japanese kanji pronounciation rules, his name would sound like a normal Japanese name. But, Koreans these days don't know that many Chinese characters.
Anyway, I want to learn more, but when? I am about to graduate. Maybe if I go to grad school?
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| exodus
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| "Re(6):anime fans...get ready to crap yourselv" , posted Thu 15 Aug 13:43
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Hangul is a completely phonetic character set created by a king around AD 600 (if I remember the history correctly) to replace Chinese characters, because he was annoyed that his country was so damned illterate. It was one of the most progressive and radical language experiments ever conducted and it succeeded.
Hangul characters are made of usually about three sub-syllables, they together make up a syllable. If I remember correctly, you read the characters themselves from top to bottom, left to right (the same as if you were reading the radicals of kanji). Looking at the hangul, it sure doesn't look like they were derived from kanji (or hanja in Korean), but maybe.
For instance, the subsyllables "hu" "yu" and "n" would form a character pronounced "hyun". At least, that's how I remember my friend's lecture. There are also all these screwy special cases I don't remember.
Japanese and Korean share quite a bit of vocabulary though, and I have been told that the farther north you go in Japan and the further south you go in Korea, the more similar the languages get. One thing to note is that Korean does use a Chinese character every here and there, especially in newspapers, and Koreans have kanji for their name. If you read my friend's name by Japanese kanji pronounciation rules, his name would sound like a normal Japanese name. But, Koreans these days don't know that many Chinese characters.
Anyway, I want to learn more, but when? I am about to graduate. Maybe if I go to grad school?
Come to USC! Join insertcredit! learn korean! all of these things are possible in terrible terrible los angeles. What a horrid place to live. but actually that sounds cool...I can deal with that kind of system. And if they use a chinese character here or there, that's no problem. I know about 200 kanji so...(I'm supposed to know at least 300)
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| Gen 499th Post
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| "Re(4):Stone of Jordan" , posted Thu 15 Aug 14:43:
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Looks wonderful ^^
Looks like Korea is really taking off in both the anime and game industries.
Hmm... maybe we shouldn't call animation produced in Korea "Anime". Maybe they have they're own word for it ^^
Hm...maybe. However, seein that the word "anime" is simply a contraction of "animation" I am going to keep using it.
yeah they are...so I'm taking Korean language next semester
Heh, my school doesn't offer Korean, or I would probably try to take it. As it is, I just pick up bits and pieces from my Korean friend. Their writing system, hangul, is fascinating. Yeah, I'm a language junkie.
The Japanese word for animation is the same as the western word for animation. Just they pronounce it in Japanese. Then they like to shorten words, so it is often said 'anime'. Of course most English animation appreciators are used to calling cartoons from Japan 'anime' either to differentiate it from other animations and/or because we've been conditioned too.
If you were speaking Japanese you'd probably call the Korean animation 'anime'....
If you're speaking English you can just call it animation or a cartoon. 8D And of course to indicate you're talking about Korea you can just work Korea or Korean into the sentence or phrase like 'animation from Korea' 'Korean cartoons'. I don't know what the Korean word is for cartoon... If Korean animation became as popular as Japanese, we might see the Korean word for animation being used to market the cartoons. That depends on Korean animation becoming that popular.... Most of the Korean animation I have seen isn't distinct enough from other animations, that the general public would notice as much as they did with anime. Yes there are differences that many current serious animation affectionados would notice, but most animation fans aren't really that 'hard core'; I'm talking about mass marketing of Korean animation to millions of average people. What would most likely happen if Korean animation gained in popularity is it would just be lumped together with other animation in your local video store. The anime section would be where the Korea stuff could be found, and it would be unusual for there to be a separate Korean shelf.
The Koreans that made the cartoon have probably all worked on Japanese cartoons before, and are probably fans of Japanese cartoons, and are probably intentionally using a Japanese cartoon style on the movie. So in that sense you might call it 'anime' indicating that it is done Japanese style even though it is made in Korea. The cartoon Wonderful days might very well be co produced between Japan and Korea.
Perhaps some Korean speakers can enlighten us further.
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