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| DKW
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|  "Re(1):Eiji Kisaragi thread"
, posted Sat 10 Aug 03:36
1. He was introduced as a shadowy, mysterious, and strangely karate-hating assassin in AOF2. It's strongly hinted that he's going to be one of SNK's new stars.
2. His story continued in the "revenge" arc in KOF '95.
3. Of course, Iori frags him in the end. Status for KOF '96 in doubt.
4. For AOF3, the designers have one of their oh-so-brilliant ideas...why not toss out the entire main cast (except for Ryo 'n Robert of course; they're not stupid or anything) and put in a bunch of complete unknowns with only the faintest whispers of backgrounds. I mean, when has this ever not worked?  But since Eiji is so cool, he deserves some role...got it! He'll be this mysterious unseen presence that nearly everyone talks about a whole lot, but who never actually shows up! It'll be great!!
5. The ultimate gigantic titanic natural plot progression-eating black hole known as Orochi bursts onto the scene. Even though he's only active for, oh, a few minutes, it's enough to establish the complete supremacy of The Mega-Story. Sadly, Eiji, who's not well-enough established to be there just bo be there, is railroaded out of KOF (along with several others, many of who were part of the Orochi Mega-Story).
6. Stick a fork in AOF, it's done.
7. Stick a fork in SNK, they're done.
8. A new era begins for KOF...meaning that Eiji is just another forgotten ninja. Not unlike Hokutomaru.
Criticize Capcom's hopelessly tangled character development all you want, but you gotta hand them this...they always push their good characters. How Eiji Kisaragi, someone who was way cool and damn fun to play as, could be so completey mishandled from beginning to end, will always remain one of the great mysteries of this 3-letter video game company.
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| Just a Person 281th Post
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| "Re(5):Eiji Kisaragi thread" , posted Sat 10 Aug 19:36
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IMO,AOF always had a screwy storyline.
Poor Eiji,they should take out Shingo and replace him with Eiji. Shingo's pretty meaningless,he's just an unoriginal clone of Kyo.
Speaking of Kyo. Call it strange,but I think there should also be some rivalry between Eiji and Kyo if he were to come back!  Of course,Kyo would blast him away!
I can't see any reason for Eiji to be Kyo's rival . Eiji already has enough rivalry with the Sakazaki clan (Ryo,Takuma & Yuri) and with Robert Garcia . Also,although he was in KoF'95 with Iori,it was because Geese hired him to join Billy and because he wanted to fight Ryo again .
Anyway,Eiji is very cool,he was one of my best characters in KoF'95 (along with the Ladies' Team and Ryo) . I hope to see him again soon (if even Ryuhaku Todo reappeared as a fighter in CvS2,why wouldn't Eiji have a chance to come back ?) .
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| Dash no Chris
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| "Re(3):Eiji Kisaragi thread" , posted Sun 11 Aug 12:21
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OK...Why was he looking for Mai Shiranui in his AOF2 ending?
Answer: He wasn't.
Eiji being implied to be in love with Mai Shiranai was added to Eiji's ending by SNK of USA. His Japanese AOF2 ending doesn't mention Mai Shiranai at all.
SNK of America screws up the storylines as much as Capcom of America does. You can't trust anything unless you can understand Japanese.
Exactly. For some reason, the staff at SNK USA and CAPCOM USA never could seem to be satisfied simply translating the games produced by their Japanese home offices. They had to show their own "creativity" by making up their own crap dialogue to display how clever and/or funny they were -- and in the end, they simply proved they were neither.
Other examples of this:
Vampire Hunter (aka, Night Warriors): In the U.S. version of her ending, she says something about wanting Blanka to be her "leading man" (in reference to her blossoming career in show business).
Super Street Fighter II: In the U.S. version of her ending, Cammy is told by Vega (M. Bison) that the two of them were lovers before she lost her memory.
Again, all crap made up by the folks at CAPCOM USA. In the original Japanese versions of these games, Felicia never mentions Blanka, and Vega simply tells Cammy that she was an agent in his organization (outside of hentai doujinshi, I've yet to see a Japanese source that indicates that Cammy was anything more than an agent and/or experiment to Vega).
My fave, tho, has got to be SNK USA's narrative in AoF2 when Takuma learns the Haou Shikouken in the training bonus stage. Upon successful completion of this bonus stage, the Japanese version simply says something like "Takuma has mastered Haou Shikouken." But in the U.S. version, SNK USA had to get cute -- their version of the narration read something like "Takuma has learned Ultra Beelzebub Baboom."
God, the U.S. version of AoF2 had some of the worst dialogue ever written by SNK USA...
--Chris
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| Toxico 2158th Post
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|  "A Kisaragi tale"
, posted Tue 13 Aug 09:58
Of course the pointers submitted by DWK can surely fill everything that you might know about the character, but if you were hungering for more feel free to read my usuals "novel type stories" where I tend to make my imagination fly.
If you want to know about Eiji Kisaragi I can tell you what I know after following this character actions and the actions of some characters related to him. I list unconfirmed on what I heard from a friend that lies to much (:r) and the other is the knowledge from playing the games; also I got no dates or a time line of what happens, so I listed the fact at my own convinence.
In the ancient japan era there it was great trouble due to "politic" conflicts, so there it was need for strong persons to take the rails, so the shogunate opted for trusting on the samurais as a strong type of 'police' wich can keep the order in the country; due to the strong sense of honor (bushido -soldier's conduct- code) of the samurais there it was a problem into dealing with some dark matters that some people might perform for their own beneficts, so the shogunate or who ever required it reached another type of warriors with no honor to restrict them, just for the "dirty" kind of jobs... (unconfirmed; resume of an old Discovery Channel documental, I don't quite remember).
Among these ninja groups there it was one that grew powerful and adquired some incredible skills, and thus they where know as one of (if not the) best(s), this group was the Kisaragi ninjitsu clan.
Note that some members of this clan do enjoy to push theirselves to the limit always deewling between life and death; note that one important thing to them it was not to transfer wrong knowledges to the next family line; every son became master and tried to increased the level of the art (mostly for pride); among these ancient warriors the most know is Zantetsu (the only one known) (I think his nephew's name is Santa), a man who participate on a strange incident involving many warriors (Last Blade/Bakumatsu Roman story line).
The ninja group survived until the present days and gave birth to one of the most mighty warriors of their clan: Eiji Kisaragi.
Having no trouble or feeling any problem with is training, Eiji quickly became a profesional ninja (ninjas are hired fighters, like mercenaries; also I heard the are native from China); feeling no challenge with his jobs, Eiji quickly became worried of his personal life and he begins to worry more about a challenge to probe him almighty. The challenge has a name and it is the Kyokugen Ryuu sect.
Being close to the 'challenge' Eiji heads to South Town in search for the Kyokugen Ryu sect and then he have a bout with Takuma; seeing his average power Eiji sees the Karate mans as a fun challenge, so he decides
not to waste more time with one of the fighters of sect and he withdraws in search for the Kyokugen Ryuu main man: Ryo Sakazaki. Takuma realizes that the ninja will be a tough enemy and chooses to warn his son.
Not much later Ryo found himself facing Eiji and they engage in furious combat; altrough one of Ryo's "policies" is to never battle with trouble looking thugs, Eiji's agressive actions force him to make full
contact with the stranger. The fight was rough, but at the end the "Karate Freak" stands as the winner. Before Ryo can interrogate Eiji, in order to know the reason of his fight, he Eiji quickly escapes and considarates that his defeat is the result of his self trust and that in another match Ryo will fall easily, Eiji thinks that Ryo will get to the final of the tournament (since it seems that he participed on that
tournament), so he chooses to take the place of the sponsor as the final fighter (remember that AoF2 was the first of the King of Fighters held by Geese; unfortunatly, Geese extraordinary power leads him to defeat the ninja with a single stroke... (That I got it from Geese Tower)
Eiji leaves America feeling that his not strong enough to handover his style (altrough he was able to reach the most powerfuls fighter defeating the others that get in his way). Later Eiji heards word that
Geese fell before Ryo and realizes that Ryo posses more power than the one displayed in their fight; so he belives that he must truly strenghten himself before another attempt. (back ground history of AoF2, note that if you must play the spanish and english version in order of getting all the details, because both versions have different
story lines for all characters (???!!!!!!!!)).
Traveling the world in order of strenghten himself, Eiji meet an interesting man that also shows interest in his own power. This mans name is Jin Fu - Ha; who took place as a disciple of the Kisaragi ninjitsu (Some other versions *more Zpanizh/Engrish version problems* say that Jin was a member of a rival clan of the Kisaragis, the japanese says -if I recall- that they are from the same clan and they attempt to take the lead).
Eiji seemed to think that a sparring partner could be good, but he later realizes that Jin his progresing somewhat slow so Kisaragi displays his full strenght on Jin, thinking that if he manages to survive he could be a good partner and if he manages not to survive then it was because he was useless. After the "test" Jin gets seriosly injured and Eiji flees (Jin got a few scars to show), in the time they spent together, Jin learned about Eiji's idea of facing Ryo; so Jin think an ideal revenge; defeating Ryo in order to steal the glory from Eiji and then defeat Eiji himself; of course that
Jin knows that Ryo his stronger than Eiji, so if he wants to perform such task he has to change a lot (this is the reason of why Jin goes to Grasshill Valley searching for Ryo in AoF3).
[Unfortunatly, Aof3 is a "side-story", a "what if", almost a dream match, so what happens here should not affect the true events of the AoF saga, it seems that THAT "What if" is like "what if kof
should fit in the AoF timeline", as it is mentioned the lost of Eiji agaisnt Iori]
Many years passed and Eiji was felling that every day that goes by is the closer he is gonna get to his goal... by that time Eiji was reached by a man named Billy Kane; a man that has a very interesting job proposition: form a team of tree people and take part of a special tournament (KoF'95), as a reward it was -more than anything- a new chance of facing the Kyokugen Ryuu school...
Acording to the KoF line Yagami's team (rather Eiji's and Billy's team) made it to the finals, so that means that Eiji and Billy obtained their desired revenge against the Garou and Ryuuko no ken main guys, but the taste of seet revenge where toned to disgrace when Iori beat the crap of them after losing the final match... since that day Eiji and Billy seek Yagami to sets things straight; Billy is know to take part
of the special team made with Yamazaki and Blue Mary, and Eiji is know to participate along Sokaku Mochizuki and G. Manttle, but this "team" only appears in the Chinese back ground in KoF 97, note that there is many team posibilities, so it is hard to see them; also is know that Eiji sometimes take the place of a misterios and poisonous ninja called Lin, but this seems to have no repercution in his story line, probably
because he only acts as an Another Striker and those people do not actually exist on the storyline(sniff...).
Well, this is all I know about this great character; at least in this small country we are desperatly waiting for a AoF 4 in wich the Eiji, Jin and Ryo fighting triangle comes to a end (naturally the hero will win, but who gets the second place... Jin has no popularity, but I think that he his a tough character; especially because he can play a strong Sweep/Overhead game when invisible -all my friends say that that is as cheezy as the Zantetsu invisible low/high hitting game-.
As you have noticed AoF3 happened after Kof '95, but I sorted them by name, also note that most -if not all- of the dialogs are by yours truly
The next Eiji Info is info taken from the almighty Galen Komatsu AoF2 FAQ.
Style: Kisaragi-ryuu Ninjutsu
Birthdate: December 25 (26 years old) +
Body: 172cm 70kg
Blood type: B
Origin: Japan
Family: "born in the shadows, I have none" *
Treasured Item: <?>
Rival: "I have no rival."
+ AoF 1 took place 12 years before Garou Desetsu -if I remember correctly-, so AoF 2 took place 11 years before 1991. +
* Family details unknow *
It seems that SNK does not forget Eiji since it mentions him on every chance that they got (back stage cameos, characters related to him); but they just can not overcome their "new over old" policy, but at least that is something that I know for sure, that they DO 'ditch' the old and welcome the 'new'.
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