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| Fro Boy11 747th Post
 
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|  "Re(3):Odd... SFA sequel?"
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Well, if they do, I hope they actually do some justice to Adon this time
I hope they do some justice to the SFA series this time.
Yeah, I even went and bought it, too. It was decent, but what ruined it was Shun (or however you spell his name) and Ken was getting jealous and the beginning of the movie like some kinda gay life-mate of Ryu's or something. Also, the robot thing was kinda cheesy. I want this sequel to be like the games, y'know. Chun-Li, Charlie, Rose, and Ryu as the main characters, everyone else can be in little side things with them on the way to stop Bison. Now that I think about it, I don't want Ryu to meet Bison because that would mess up the SFII anime, so something like Sakura and Ken or something could distract him from Bison.
I don't know, just something like the game. Alpha 3 to be exact.
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(1):Odd... SFA sequel?" , posted Thu 8 Aug 02:00
It'll be pretty hard for the anime to follow SFA3's storyline, considering that, ignoring all the smaller stories within it, SFA3 consisted of three entirely different 'sagas' within it (one with Ryu as main, then Cammy, then Chun-Li/Charlie/Guile). I can see it fitting in and merging two out of three, but it's a bit hard to picture all three crammed into just one OAV.
Ah well. If Cammy gets a main role, then that means there's a good chance there'll be Doll focus! Yay! But... it'll probably be most likely Ryu with Cammy on the side (if at all) which would thus probably relegate the rest of the Dolls to bit roles. Doh!
At any rate, I heard rumours about an Alpha anime sequel in production since like... a year ago, I think.
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| Dr Baghead 1354th Post
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| "Re(2):Odd... SFA sequel?" , posted Thu 8 Aug 10:30
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It'll be pretty hard for the anime to follow SFA3's storyline, considering that, ignoring all the smaller stories within it, SFA3 consisted of three entirely different 'sagas' within it (one with Ryu as main, then Cammy, then Chun-Li/Charlie/Guile). I can see it fitting in and merging two out of three, but it's a bit hard to picture all three crammed into just one OAV.
There were more then three "Sagas" going on... I personally think Dan, Blanka, and Sakura's zany antics carry more weight in the SFA3 storyline then the dolls do... and ideally a second SFA anime would focus on Sakura following Ryu viewing the story as a bystander, while Dan follows his number 1 student along with his best friend Blanka, and they get into zany micheif along the way
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| Hungrywolf 1326th Post
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| "Re(3):Odd... SFA sequel?" , posted Thu 8 Aug 12:21
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It'll be pretty hard for the anime to follow SFA3's storyline, considering that, ignoring all the smaller stories within it, SFA3 consisted of three entirely different 'sagas' within it (one with Ryu as main, then Cammy, then Chun-Li/Charlie/Guile). I can see it fitting in and merging two out of three, but it's a bit hard to picture all three crammed into just one OAV.
There were more then three "Sagas" going on... I personally think Dan, Blanka, and Sakura's zany antics carry more weight in the SFA3 storyline then the dolls do... and ideally a second SFA anime would focus on Sakura following Ryu viewing the story as a bystander, while Dan follows his number 1 student along with his best friend Blanka, and they get into zany micheif along the way
He he he. I like that idea. I wanted to see Sakura fight in the Alpha anime. In fact, like someone else mentioned I liked the Dan fireball that was done in the anime and I liked that Sakura was in it. Besides that I didn't like it at all really.
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(3):Odd... SFA sequel?" , posted Thu 8 Aug 14:43:
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There were more then three "Sagas" going on... I personally think Dan, Blanka, and Sakura's zany antics carry more weight in the SFA3 storyline then the dolls do... and ideally a second SFA anime would focus on Sakura following Ryu viewing the story as a bystander, while Dan follows his number 1 student along with his best friend Blanka, and they get into zany micheif along the way
Yea, I know that there are more than three sagas. That's why I said "Ignoring the smaller storylines". I guess I probably should have said "ignoring the less main" storylines or... something like that. Cody, Karin, R. Mika, Rolento and Sodom, Dan Blanka and Sakura... they all have their own official storylines during SFA3 too (well, probably do. Cody's happening to some extent is confirmed by Final Fight One, at least), but none of them are officially confirmed to be connected to a main center? I based what constituted as a 'main saga' of SFA3 off of those that officially were confirmed to have crossed paths with Bison at one point or another, since he seems to be the general epicenter (mainly because more sagas cross paths *in a major way* with him than anyone else, etc). For example, despite how the Guile Charlie Chun-Li one is only depicted when you play as one character (Guile. As opposed to Ryu's which is depicted from four different view points, or the Dolls which is depicted from three different ones. Charlie and Chun-Li both get what-if storylines in SFA3 that don't pertain to the Guile Chun-Li Charlie 'saga'), I still counted it since it is confirmed to officially have crossed paths with Bison in a major way (in fact, probably one of the most important since it's the one that finally officially resulted in taking him down).
Oh wait, I forgot to include Rose. It also officially crosses paths with Bison, but I keep forgetting about it for some reason (maybe because my mind is just prone to lumping it with the Dolls for some strange reason).
But... the Dan, Sakura, and Blanka portion of SFA3 having more weight than the Dolls' portion? Oo Admittingly, as a Doll fanboy, I tend to be a bit biased, but rationalizing this out... Maybe I have the definition of 'weight' wrong, or something, but with the Dolls having officially been confirmed to have their fight with Bison happen unlike Blanka Dan and Sakura (not including Sakura and Ken fighting Bison, since that has nothing to do with Sakura's interactions with Blanka and Dan during SFA3), being shown by a multitude of viewpoints in-game to a generally not what-if degree (Vega, Cammy, and Juli) whereas Dan Blanka Sakura is really only shown by playing as Blanka (playing as Dan gives you a definately-didn't-happen ending where Dan and Blank are blown up, and playing as Sakura gets you a viewpoint on the Ryu Sakura Ken Sagat 'saga', not Blanka Dan & Sakura), and having a lot more relations with characters outside of it than Blanka Dan Sakura does (Rose, Thunder Hawk, and possibly Chun-Li seeing Cammy before the base exploded), I can't think of any definitions of 'weight' where the Blanka Dan Sakura 'saga' of the events of SFA3's official storyline would have more than the Dolls'. The Doll nonwhat-if events of SFA3 rivals Ryu's events in size, scope, and officialness, and both definately hands down are bigger than any of the other storylines within SFA3. They each are shown from at least three different view points in the game, are confirmed to cross paths with Bison, officially involve a buttload of characters, etc etc.
Unless you mean a personal preference thing, though I'll assume you didn't since "weight in the SFA3 storyline" didn't sound like it.
At any rate, though, since Ryu is almost definately going to be the main character of the anime, I imagine that would give Dan and Sakura a lot more showtime than the Dolls. All of the main Doll story participants pretty much have nothing to do with Ryu, after all (though a few tangents like Rose and Chun-Li do, but from the perspective of the Doll storyline, they're just tangents to the Doll 'saga' at best, and just tangents to Ryu's as well), so the only way for them to get a feasible amount of show-time while sticking to something resembling the official in-game storyline would be to have Cammy be the main character of the anime, which we all know isn't going to happen :P
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| Dr Baghead 1356th Post
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| "Re(4):Odd... SFA sequel?" , posted Thu 8 Aug 22:01
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Yea, I know that there are more than three sagas. That's why I said "Ignoring the smaller storylines". I guess I probably should have said "ignoring the less main" storylines or... something like that. Cody, Karin, R. Mika, Rolento and Sodom, Dan Blanka and Sakura... they all have their own official storylines during SFA3 too (well, probably do. Cody's happening to some extent is confirmed by Final Fight One, at least), but none of them are officially confirmed to be connected to a main center? I based what constituted as a 'main saga' of SFA3 off of those that officially were confirmed to have crossed paths with Bison at one point or another, since he seems to be the general epicenter (mainly because more sagas cross paths *in a major way* with him than anyone else, etc). For example, despite how the Guile Charlie Chun-Li one is only depicted when you play as one character (Guile. As opposed to Ryu's which is depicted from four different view points, or the Dolls which is depicted from three different ones. Charlie and Chun-Li both get what-if storylines in SFA3 that don't pertain to the Guile Chun-Li Charlie 'saga'), I still counted it since it is confirmed to officially have crossed paths with Bison in a major way (in fact, probably one of the most important since it's the one that finally officially resulted in taking him down).
Oh wait, I forgot to include Rose. It also officially crosses paths with Bison, but I keep forgetting about it for some reason (maybe because my mind is just prone to lumping it with the Dolls for some strange reason).
But... the Dan, Sakura, and Blanka portion of SFA3 having more weight than the Dolls' portion? Oo Admittingly, as a Doll fanboy, I tend to be a bit biased, but rationalizing this out... Maybe I have the definition of 'weight' wrong, or something, but with the Dolls having officially been confirmed to have their fight with Bison happen unlike Blanka Dan and Sakura (not including Sakura and Ken fighting Bison, since that has nothing to do with Sakura's interactions with Blanka and Dan during SFA3), being shown by a multitude of viewpoints in-game to a generally not what-if degree (Vega, Cammy, and Juli) whereas Dan Blanka Sakura is really only shown by playing as Blanka (playing as Dan gives you a definately-didn't-happen ending where Dan and Blank are blown up, and playing as Sakura gets you a viewpoint on the Ryu Sakura Ken Sagat 'saga', not Blanka Dan & Sakura), and having a lot more relations with characters outside of it than Blanka Dan Sakura does (Rose, Thunder Hawk, and possibly Chun-Li seeing Cammy before the base exploded), I can't think of any definitions of 'weight' where the Blanka Dan Sakura 'saga' of the events of SFA3's official storyline would have more than the Dolls'. The Doll nonwhat-if events of SFA3 rivals Ryu's events in size, scope, and officialness, and both definately hands down are bigger than any of the other storylines within SFA3. They each are shown from at least three different view points in the game, are confirmed to cross paths with Bison, officially involve a buttload of characters, etc etc.
Unless you mean a personal preference thing, though I'll assume you didn't since "weight in the SFA3 storyline" didn't sound like it.
At any rate, though, since Ryu is almost definately going to be the main character of the anime, I imagine that would give Dan and Sakura a lot more showtime than the Dolls. All of the main Doll story participants pretty much have nothing to do with Ryu, after all (though a few tangents like Rose and Chun-Li do, but from the perspective of the Doll storyline, they're just tangents to the Doll 'saga' at best, and just tangents to Ryu's as well), so the only way for them to get a feasible amount of show-time while sticking to something resembling the official in-game storyline would be to have Cammy be the main character of the anime, which we all know isn't going to happen :P
Sorry, what I meant was they'd carry more weight in an anime based on SFA3, not in the actual game itself.
Although offically more important I think having the dolls play a major role in a movie would be more hurtful in the long run... since their origins would need to be somewhat explained (or at least they should be explained) and (unless I'm mistaken) they all have the personality of Rei from EVA, and like Rei despite carrying much importances to the offical storyline, having many fanboys, and at times being pretty kickass focusing on them too much would get exceedingly boring as their an extention of the main villian who is already getting enough screen time.
If they had to have 3 storylines, to me at least, an SFA3 anime would carry the most weight if it had Ryu/Ken as the main focus (since it's traditional), Guile/Nash/Chun as the sub-story (since Shadowloo must be blown up), and Dan/Blanka/Sakura in a very small role providing mostly comic reliefe to tie into the Ryu story. While the dolls and Cammy (as she always is) are just assassin for Bison/Vega (who could always turn on him in the end if it's that important), but maybe I'm looking at it wrong and if done right the doll saga would work in an anime.
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(5):Odd... SFA sequel?" , posted Fri 9 Aug 01:20
Ah, yea. Okay, then. Well, I basically agree there, with how Dan and Sakura would have much more chance for and much more show time in general due to the main character most likely being Ryu. But... I've already stated that above, too :P
Ah, robo-speak. Gotta love it, eh? ...bleh. At any rate, it's true that the Dolls in their most canon form wouldn't work well for an anime, which is why I personally never state that I'd prefer that the anime follow the exact or close-variation canon for them, because I don't :P
At any rate, fortunately, if Juli and Juni appear in the actual SFA anime sequel (If at all, and if they do, I'm pretty positive the other Dolls won't. Odds are the anime producers won't even know they exist), I'd be surprised as heck if they got the robo-speak treatment. Since... odds are that the anime producers won't even know THAT exists, either.
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| Satoshi Miwa 1353th Post
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| "Re(6):Odd... SFA sequel?" , posted Sat 10 Aug 22:19
Chances are Juni and Juli would probably get a non-speaking roll as canon fodder to warm Ryu up before he fights Bison. If any doll gets a big speaking part it'd be Cammy, and chances are the director would use her to cover the whole doll story (saves on time, which would be a big issue for this anime if it's only has a few parts...). Sad to say that'd be the fate of a lot of cool SF'ers (Like the Final Fight crew, who could have a rocking anime all their own...).
Actually probably the best way to handle the doll story if they were to touch upon it would be to take advantge of a tossed aside SFA3 plot line, and have Bison kidnap Sakura and turn her into a doll. Sure, cliched, but it gives an orgin to the doll storyline that isn't handled off screen. You can have Cammy hunbt her down. And you can have Dan tag along with Ryu, ken, Chun Li, and Charlie to bust up Bison (adding comic relief...).
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