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| Fro Boy11 695th Post
 
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|  "Re(3):SF4"
, posted Sat 27 Jul 22:05
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i saw this subject on the shoryuken board is there any plans of making this game or did they end it with third strike?
I'm sure they'll make one eventually. I haven't heard any news. I only heard hearsay that Capcom was dissappointed with Street Fighter III. I also read that the creator liked Alex, suggesting he didn't like the other characters that much.
Didn't like SF3? I loved it! I liked all the characters. Ibuki and Sean are awesome!
You liked all the characters, man I wish I had your taste. I didn't like over half of the characters.
I liked Ken, Ryu, Alex, Sean, Yang, Chun-Li, Elena (even though I don't use her), and Remy. That's it. All the other characters I didn't like that much. Ibuki is higher up there than the rest though.
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| Rid Hershel 3130th Post
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| "Well..." , posted Sun 28 Jul 06:18
I DID liked the new character designs. I was glad to see someone doing other thing besides "commercial manga style (SNK, Arc)" or "crappy american style (Midway)" in fighting games, they went for a more bizarre approach, much like SF2. While I'm not a big fan of Urien and Gill, I do like the rest. My favorites? Remy (he's so cool), Makoto, Ibuki, Chun Li, Elena, Necro, Yun/Yang and Alex.
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| Ferrio
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| "Re(1):Well..." , posted Sun 28 Jul 07:15:
Hmm Street Fighter 4... Although it pains me to say I wish they'd bring back some old characters. Not just for fan service, but also to close some stories.
Sagat-One final battle with Ryu to end it all.
Sakura-A grown woman version, hopefully grown even more away from the shoto origins.
Dan- If you have Sagat, you must have Dan. Again hopefully with less of his shoto characteristics. You'd think over all that time he'd of perfected his Saikyo style.
Poison- Hey already have a couple animations of her with Hugo, might as well throw her in as a character.
Cammy- An older delta red version.
Of course I hope they keep the previous cast, and just add on. I liked many of the new additions only a few I disliked (Q, Twelve...that's about it)
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only new ideas were parrying and super cancels, and maybe a few more things.
and short jumps, throwing with two buttons, taunts that actually do something other than taunt, selectable supers, kara cancelling.
I think it was quite a big leap, but to think it was as big as 1 to 2 is sort of setting yourself up for a big fall. The genre has come quite aways, and coming up with new ideas are getting harder to do.
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| iggy 391th Post
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| "Re(2):Well..." , posted Sun 28 Jul 09:06:
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Sagat-One final battle with Ryu to end it all.
I think SFZero3 ends it pretty well...
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Sakura-A grown woman version, hopefully grown even more away from the shoto origins.
In most of her endings, she becomes a fat woman that takes care of her child(-dren?)... Not very feminist, Capcom san yoooo....
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Dan- If you have Sagat, you must have Dan. Again hopefully with less of his shoto characteristics. You'd think over all that time he'd of perfected his Saikyo style.
and fun, this time?
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Poison- Hey already have a couple animations of her with Hugo, might as well throw her in as a character.
"Him", Ferrio, "Him".
Though he could become a real "she" in SF4, right now, he's a "HE".
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Cammy- An older delta red version.
cf Poison.
Well, big problem... Capcom do what everybody want (Zero3) people shout because they reuse the same thing again and again, they try to inovate and do a huge job to do a (imo) really well done game and people shout because gna, gna, gna.
Beeing a game designer must be an horrible job.
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| Ferrio
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| "Re(3):Well..." , posted Sun 28 Jul 09:26
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I think SFZero3 ends it pretty well...
What do you mean? SF2 comes AFTER SFA3 and Sagat still wants that final fight.
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In most of her endings, she becomes a fat woman that takes care of her child(-dren?)... Not very feminist, Capcom san yoooo....
What huh?
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and fun, this time?
Dan is fun, that's the only point to play as him, cause it definatly isn't because he's strong. It would be nice if he did make it into a SF4 that he wouldn't be a joke character anymore.
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Well, big problem... Capcom do what everybody want (Zero3) people shout because they reuse the same thing again and again, they try to inovate and do a huge job to do a (imo) really well done game and people shout because gna, gna, gna.
Beeing a game designer must be an horrible job.
That's why I said "as much as I hate to say it"... If Capcom actually changed the old characters around and gave them whole new movesets/sprites/animations/voice it's not much left of the old character. It has been five years after SF2, they could of changed their fighting style by then hehe.
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| tweleve
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|  "Re(2):Well..."
, posted Sun 28 Jul 12:44
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and short jumps, throwing with two buttons, taunts that actually do something other than taunt, selectable supers, kara cancelling.
I think it was quite a big leap
Yes, those things too. But don't think that these are big changes. They're not; they're like features added on to the existing package. We now expect big changes for SF4. A complete change to the 3 tier, standing/crouching/jumping style, maybe, to allow more complexity. What will it be like? Who knows! That's the beauty of change.
Then again, that would require imagination, and there's not much of that around. All 2D fighters are just variations of the same SF2 formula. They keep adding bits on and people call it "innovation".
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(2):SF4" , posted Sun 28 Jul 17:45:
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i saw this subject on the shoryuken board is there any plans of making this game or did they end it with third strike?
No,they will probably make a SF4 . It won't be released soon,though . I just expect it to be still in 2D (or at least,if it is 3D,it needs to be much graphically better than Tekken 4) .
By the way,the end of the 2nd Street Fighter tournament is still not clarified,is it ? (I mean,who won the tournament,who fought who and when did Akuma kill Vega/M.Bison ?)
Capcom has never stated who won the tournament. They did, however, state that Akuma was the one that killed Bison (though since Akuma did that randomly and not as a tournament participant, that doesn't make him tournament champion).
Looking at every Street Fighter 2 Revival Ending, Akuma's ending is the only one where Bison dies.
You can probably pretty much assume that every Street Fighter 2 ending but Bison's happened. I don't believe Capcom has stated as such, but it pretty much resolves everyone to have everyones' but Bison's ending happen, which would explain why Capcom was so dead set on starting on a new slate with an entirely new cast for SF3 (besides Ryu and Ken).
On a side note, the only ending that *requires* that character winning the tournament in order for that ending to happen is Guile's for the most part. Which is why he's generally considered the one most likely to have won Street Fighter 2, though again, I need to stress that I'm pretty sure Capcom has never stated directly who won the tournament.
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| Luisinan
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| "Re(7):Well..." , posted Mon 29 Jul 18:27
SF3 was weird because it has a small legion of hardcore fans but the general SF audience didn't appreciate it as much.
Who ever said that you don't get innovation in 2D fighters is mostly correct. Most games are just variations of the SF2 engine with new bells and whistles. After CvS2 and KOF2K1, what the heck will Capcom come out with next?
I love/hate parries is all I'll say. They add a very cool addition to the standard SF2 gameplay, but can also make the gameplay very boring with just turtling and turtling.
So in conclussion, I don't want any returning characters in SF4 except Ryu/Ken/Akuma and Chun Li. Those four are really the SF poster kids, so they need to reappear. But as for the rest of the cast, well, they'll be mixed up children. Just look at the SF3 cast and their move sets.
Remy= Sagat+Guile
Urien= Bison+Balrog
Oro= Bison+Guile
Alex= Zangief+Balrog
Q= Balrog+Zangief
Remy has the whole hi/lo fireball like Sagat, and of course Guile's flash kick and quick recovery. Urien has quick shoulder smash like Balrog's dashing punches plus the smashing knee dive like Bison's foot stomp. Oro has a similar foot stomp but also a charging fireball and anti-air head smash like Guile's flash kick. And the list goes on.
I wanted A2 Bison in 3S. The closest thing I got was Oro, I'd rather use Remy then Guile or Charlie anyway. If you want Cammy in 3S, just use Ibuki or Akuma. Close enough. Though Cammy sure doesn't match Akuma in the cute department.
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| Fro Boy11 701th Post
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| "Re(10):Well..." , posted Tue 30 Jul 06:07
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I'm positively sure that there will be a SF4, but I'm hoping that a 4th Darkstalkers game comes first. I've been waiting for a true DS4 for 5 years now...
Agree. Plans to make a SF4 can be placed on hold...I want a DS4 first too. And where is my MOTW2, SS5, AOF4, Last Blade 3....
Yeah, DS4 would be alright, but I'd rather see SF4. The reason for this is that Capcom would probably come up with really good, innovative gameplay and use it for DS4 instead of SF4, and when SF4 comes out it'll also be dissapointing. A few years of rest from the 2D fighters are sure to spark new innovative ideas, and I want the best one for SF4.
AS for the rest, I'd love to see Mark of the Wolves 2 and Art of Fighting 4. Expecially Art of Fighting 4, this way they can be a little more serious in they're own games and the Kyokugen team can be goofy or whatever in the KOF series.
Mark of the Wolves 2 was supposed to be shown at the Tokyo Game Show last September (I read it at Gamers.com, I don't know if it's there or not anymore, Look for Mark of the Wolves stuff) and that didn't happen. So assuming that the financial troubles of SNK stopped the showing, or production or whatever, they still have SOMETHING, and from that news I know it's only a matter of time before it's shown to the public.
SS5, well I'd like to see this, but to tell you the truth, I'm not a big fan of Samurai Showdown anymore because I was never really good at it, but I'm the best at SS4 out of all of them. SS5 would be nice to see since programers are better with the MVS now, and I'd like to see how it looks and I wanna know what they'd do to the fighting system.
Last Blade 3, well, even though I own Last Blade 2 for the DC, I really don't wanna see another Last Blade right now. I think it can wait. I mean if SS5 comes out first, do we really need a new Last Blade?
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