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tweleve
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"Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good?" , posted Sun 23 Jun 15:25

Or to put it another way, has it got any annoying flaws? And if so, can you describe them?

It's one of those games that eluded me the first time round. Thanks in advance.

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Luisinan
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"Re(1):Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good?" , posted Sun 23 Jun 21:49

Ach! I got this game because I had heard that it was popular in Japan. So I got it in May of this year and only played it once. Here is some info and complaints.

1. Fully 3D fighting arenas. You fight in the air, inside this 3D cube of space. You can fly up,down,left,right with the joystick/d-pad and you can move toward and away from the horizon but I think you do that with a button. I think its kind of easy but I also think that you can only move in one dimension of space at a a time, which means, no jumping, just flying up or down.
2. Powerbar specials- like Fatal Fury. You have a long powerbar. The more its filled, the more specials and super specials you can unleash. Forget how you charge up the power par.
3. MK and SF style joystick and button combinations for specials. I think, can't remember well.
4. Plays like... Pong. Except each paddle can move anywhere on the screen, can throw fireballs and can even run up to the other paddle and wack it.
5. Should you get this game? Only if you have a friend who is willing to learn the weird engine with you. By yourself, you'll be bored and frustrated.

That's it. The game might be good, but I'd rather play VF or Virtual On.

Jazzie D

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"Review" , posted Sun 23 Jun 23:10

quote:
Or to put it another way, has it got any annoying flaws? And if so, can you describe them?

It's one of those games that eluded me the first time round. Thanks in advance.

You know, I made a review of this game on Gamefaqs a while back. That can help you. As for me, I actually liked the game, but it's good if you have competition.

mbisonhatclub
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New Customer

"Re(1):Review" , posted Mon 24 Jun 00:43

1) It lacks the anime intro that the Playstation version has, but the Dreamcast's in-game graphics are a little less snazzy.

2) The game occasionally freezes up for some reason and even in particular points of the game--such as when fighting Wong or Keith.

3) AI is fairly challenging.

4) Gameplay is quite innovative for a fighting game.

5) It should be worth a buy, and it probably isn't even worth much nowadays so you could probably score a pretty cheap copy, or even just get an ISO of it if you're THAT cheap.

6) Most importantly, one of the characters has an M.Bison hat, so she gets a shout-out from M.Bison, yo.

There aren't any blaringly striking flaws to the game save for the problems with the game freezing up for inexplicable reasons. It might have to do with a timer bug, due to the fact that there are time-release characters. I had always thought of time-release secrets as generally being moronic and not at satisfactory, M.Bison-approved levels. The villains who invented this mechanism must be psycho crushed at once.

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Taa kun
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"Re(1):Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good?" , posted Mon 24 Jun 02:02

quote:
Or to put it another way, has it got any annoying flaws? And if so, can you describe them?

It's one of those games that eluded me the first time round. Thanks in advance.

I'm a Psychic Force FAN, so my opinion will be biased.

This game is great.
But it's not a full 3D game : the fights are allways in a 2D plane, you fly up/down/left/right, but not in the back of the screen... but it's quite enough freedom to move...
The powers are really originals, it's not a shoot them up, you have to learn the properties, if you don't want to loose really fast.

It's a pure trap and combo game...

For the DC version, it's a raw port of the arcade game, so no bonus like for the playstation...
And I really like the graphics, so anime like... (and the seiyuu cast, but I'm a seiyuu maniac...)

By the way, the freeze screen problems are not problems : it's a time stop power...

Tsukurimashou... Tsukurimashou...
Sate sate nani ga dekiru ka na ?

tweleve
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Occasional Customer

"Re(2):Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good?" , posted Mon 24 Jun 09:27

Thanks.

I'll probably pick it up since it is cheap. In spite of the helpful information provided here, it's always necessary to get a game to see if you like it or not, so questions like "is a game good" are mostly futile. There's always conflicting information.

Thanks all the same, though.

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Shapermc
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"Re(3):Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good?" , posted Mon 24 Jun 09:45

This was one of the first games that I got for the DC and I liked it alot at the time.

Spent a good week learning it all. Not very challengeing (Ithink that most 3-d games are easy) but I am a fan. I got the PSX and The DC game. I would pay up to like $20 for it now. If my opinion counts.

Taa kun
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"Re(4):Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good?" , posted Mon 24 Jun 10:02

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This was one of the first games that I got for the DC and I liked it alot at the time.

Spent a good week learning it all. Not very challengeing (Ithink that most 3-d games are easy) but I am a fan. I got the PSX and The DC game. I would pay up to like $20 for it now. If my opinion counts.

Not very challenging ?
If you're talking about VS CPU challenge, I don't think that a really challenging AI exists, but the japanese AI of the DC version is quite bitchy, I still remember devastating combos and awfully tortured traps I ate... but the US/European version is so weak...

As for human challengers, go find your's...

Tsukurimashou... Tsukurimashou...
Sate sate nani ga dekiru ka na ?

Shapermc
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"Re(5):Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good?" , posted Mon 24 Jun 10:31

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Not very challenging ?
If you're talking about VS CPU challenge, I don't think that a really challenging AI exists, but the japanese AI of the DC version is quite bitchy, I still remember devastating combos and awfully tortured traps I ate... but the US/European version is so weak...

As for human challengers, go find your's...

I can never find human challangers no matter where the military moves me! But I don't think that 3-D fighters have very good AI's (in general) Esp. Soul Caliber! But yes the AI on this game can be a bitch (and cheap as hell) Still you just got to look for it comming and figure out how to avoid then no prob!

Taa kun
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Frequent Customer

"Re(6):Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good?" , posted Mon 24 Jun 11:09

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But yes the AI on this game can be a bitch (and cheap as hell) Still you just got to look for it comming and figure out how to avoid then no prob!

Are you playing with a japanese version by the way ?

When I say that the japanese is way stronger, I mean that an US CPU level 8(max) is about the same as a japanese CPU level 2 !

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Shapermc
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"Re(7):Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good?" , posted Mon 24 Jun 11:17

[quoteAre you playing with a japanese version by the way ?

When I say that the japanese is way stronger, I mean that an US CPU level 8(max) is about the same as a japanese CPU level 2 !

I never knew that this saw a US DC release. Yes I have the Jap version. I don't like playing at lv 8 but I have beaten it at that in the Jap version. Is there any thing added for the US version? I would almost get it for some bonus features.

I usually play at like lv 5. This still allows me to win almost every time but still makes me work for it!

Taa kun
223th Post

Frequent Customer

"Re(8):Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good?" , posted Mon 24 Jun 11:26

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I never knew that this saw a US DC release. Yes I have the Jap version. I don't like playing at lv 8 but I have beaten it at that in the Jap version. Is there any thing added for the US version? I would almost get it for some bonus features.

No.

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I usually play at like lv 5. This still allows me to win almost every time but still makes me work for it!

I only play at level 8, the AI tends to set really crazy traps and is quite unforgiving... not invicible of course...
If you closely look at it, you can learn a lot of stuff which would be usefull to torment humans opponents...

I love the bouncing triangle with Genshin, the breaker square with Emilio, the one two sword wall combo with Wong...

The japanese magazine Gamest had so much stuff about this game...

Tsukurimashou... Tsukurimashou...
Sate sate nani ga dekiru ka na ?

K Evans
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New Customer

"Re(9):Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good?" , posted Mon 24 Jun 13:18

I played that game a lot, and my recommendation is it is really good. But I only say this as a fan of the characters, the seiyuu cast, the storyline and all. In my recommendation, it is good only if you like the actual thing. I can say everything about the game system, the game pro and cons, but I would play this game over most DC games and also over the Playstation version itself any day any time. If it is cheap, then you won't lose too much.

If you can't win buzz off!

Ishmael
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"Re(10):Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good?" , posted Mon 24 Jun 17:25

How is Psychic Force 2012 compared to the version that came out on the PSX? Are there any major changes to the game engine, AI, or what have you? The brief time I spent with the PSX version made it seem like there were some interesting ideas in the game but having the CPU combo me into a wall -causing my character to float listlessly like a dead goldfish in an aquarium- and then magically recharge and re-combo me before I could recover got old very fast.

Taa kun
229th Post

Frequent Customer

"Instruction booklet" , posted Tue 25 Jun 01:21

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having the CPU combo me into a wall -causing my character to float listlessly like a dead goldfish in an aquarium- and then magically recharge and re-combo me before I could recover got old very fast.

Ow...
There's many ways to escape this kind of thing.
Like the 'Escape Barrier' or the 'Psychic Impulse', but the first rule is to never stay too close to the wall.

The japanese game has a really detailled instruction booklet, of course, it's useless if you can't read japanese.
By the way, american/european versions of games have allways crappy instructions booklets compared to the japanese ones.
I can't understand why the editors don't make a proper job about it. After that, you see FAQ with a lot of interesting stuff... stuff which is usually translations of the japanese instructions booklets...

Tsukurimashou... Tsukurimashou...
Sate sate nani ga dekiru ka na ?

K Evans
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New Customer

"Re(2):Re(10):Is Psychic Force 2012 on DC good" , posted Fri 28 Jun 18:08

The PSX version sux, period. for many reasons, but with such downgrade in quality, not just graphic wise, the game also plays a lot slower and the controls are a lot stiffer. The PSX version's only merits are you can config the character to have moves from other characters (though I never tried this one), and two additional characters (brad and Sonia).

It's a shame they never made a DC version with these extras, cos I don't think anyone can have the patience to finish the game at all in the PSX version.

On the note of gameplay, what makes the game exciting after you get used to the game system, is that you are constantly trying to rush, dash and evade, while attacking the opponent at every turn you got. For a beginner, you could lose easily if you don't gasp the system well, or if playing with a unsatisfactory opponent, it can get boring too.

quote:
How is Psychic Force 2012 compared to the version that came out on the PSX? Are there any major changes to the game engine, AI, or what have you? The brief time I spent with the PSX version made it seem like there were some interesting ideas in the game but having the CPU combo me into a wall -causing my character to float listlessly like a dead goldfish in an aquarium- and then magically recharge and re-combo me before I could recover got old very fast.

If you can't win buzz off!