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Kitsune413
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"possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyball." , posted Thu 20 Jun 11:20

The forum moderator and a public relations person for Tecmo says,

We're creating a Beach Volleyball game that we invisioned a long time ago. Yes, it will have beautiful women and some objectionable material. We're creating the game the way we want it to be, we are not striving for a Teen or Mature rating. Whatever ESRB gives us, is what we have to live with. We will not have any Sexual Intercourse or Penetration in the game, that is the only thing that can make it a Adults Only game. Having nudity will not neccessarily mean will receive a Adults Only rating. Rated R movies is like having a Mature rating in a way.
The game will not suffer in gameplay, just imagine the fluidness of DOA3 but playing VolleyBall. Plus, it's not only a VolleyBall game?

"Finn"

Personally I believe it's a bad idea. DOA already has a bad reputation however at it's core it's still one of the best 3d fighters made. This is kind of like agreeing that the game is only about the girls, though, fanservice kind of does that anyways. not to this extent. So hopefully the rumors about a possible topless mode aren't true.

But on the other hand, it looks like videogames are finally growing up. So who knows?

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Rugalbernstein

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"Re(1):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Thu 20 Jun 11:22

It's gutsy of them to do this, and still try and release it in the U.S. I think they've realised that the DOA girls really ARE one of the major selling points of the series..

Taa kun
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"Re(1):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Thu 20 Jun 11:28

quote:
This is kind of like agreeing that the game is only about the girls, though, fanservice kind of does that anyways. not to this extent. So hopefully the rumors about a possible topless mode aren't true.

But on the other hand, it looks like videogames are finally growing up. So who knows?

Ow, ow, ow...
Will there be special 'attacks' like a power serve which rips your opponent swimsuit ?
Tsk, tsk, tsk...
Nothing new on our earth, the body of a woman is allways the best 'thing' to sell anything...

I want to go to the beach, to play real beach volley, it's been so long...

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Sate sate nani ga dekiru ka na ?

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"Re(2):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Thu 20 Jun 11:30

quote:
It's gutsy of them to do this, and still try and release it in the U.S. I think they've realised that the DOA girls really ARE one of the major selling points of the series..

"one of the major selling points of the series"!?

The girls are the ONLY selling point of the series!!

Burn baby! Burn!
The Burning Fist...returns!

Juke Joint Jezebel

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"O_O" , posted Thu 20 Jun 11:46

quote:
We will not have any Sexual Intercourse or Penetration in the game, that is the only thing that can make it a Adults

i don't see how they could implement that in a volleyball game in the first place, but i guess that's a good thing to know

Hungrywolf

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"Re(3):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Thu 20 Jun 12:42

quote:
It's gutsy of them to do this, and still try and release it in the U.S. I think they've realised that the DOA girls really ARE one of the major selling points of the series..

"one of the major selling points of the series"!?

The girls are the ONLY selling point of the series!!

Not for me, Whitesword. I love DoA. DoA2 was a good game. I play fighting games for the fighting. The beautiful girls are an added plus. If DoA games played like crap I wouldn't play them, but they play very good, so there.

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"Re(1):O_O" , posted Thu 20 Jun 12:43

quote:
We will not have any Sexual Intercourse or Penetration in the game, that is the only thing that can make it a Adults
i don't see how they could implement that in a volleyball game in the first place, but i guess that's a good thing to know

Especially in a game with no male characters.

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"It was inevitable" , posted Thu 20 Jun 12:45

quote:

But on the other hand, it looks like videogames are finally growing up. So who knows?

He he he, I doubt that showing porn in videogames is a sign of growing up...

See? I told you all, this DoA thing will lead us into untastefull porn games, may god have mercy on our souls...

Make no mistake, I like porn games, but I like them when they're labeled as such, not when they try to hide behind some kind of "Inmersive gameplay" or whatever the hell the Tecmo guys are trying to make us believe...

So sad...

I can support violence in videogames, because I can't do that in real life, I can't shot a guy or slash people or monsters with a huge ass sword because I'm sane...
But I can see girls in real life, I can watch them in bikinis playing volleyball, I can be with girls anytime...
And I think Hentai and doujinshis of our fave video game girls is ok, but I think that selling a videogame based only on girls showing tits and ass is no good( I think they can do that, but they MUST label their games as porn games)...

Let the porn age of videogames begin!!! *sigh*

-'Cause the deaths of countless innocents in selfish battles again and again and again until we're both dead... is that what you want? Think about it HERO!

DKW
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"Please, say this is just a rumor..." , posted Thu 20 Jun 12:58

Good effin' lord...please, please, please, not another half-in half-out, watered-down, fig-leafed, "suggestive", never-get-to-actually-see-anything-good TOTAL PIECE OF CRAP "adult" game.

I can tell all of you from painful experience that the vast majority of adult games on the market (on any platform you care to name) don't come within a parsec of even the softest of soft "porn" (gawd, it hurts just to write that word nowadays). Why the hell don't these idiots realize that there's no such thing as "kinda adult"? It's either 18-and-over or it isn't. And showing so much as one nipple qualifies it as 18-and-over, even if it isn't even marginally erotic or titillating.

And could someone please explain to me why "topless" is such a big honkin deal when the bottom could take a freaking nuclear blast without coming off? Breasts ARE NOT GENITALIA and ARE NOT SUFFICIENT FOR A DECENT "ADULT" GAME.

Huh. Look, no one's questioning the fact that sex appeal sells...SNK has understood this for a long time, well before DOA even existed. But crossing the line into half-baked, not-a-millionth-as-good-as-actual-porn "adult" gaming is something I wouldn't wish on Battle Arena Toshinden, let alone a still-credible fighting game like DOA.

You know what, this is serious enough that I'm actually going to wire up Tecmo and tell them, for Pete's sake, don't do it.

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Mosquiton

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"Let's Jumping to Conclusion!" , posted Thu 20 Jun 13:39

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:D

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pointystick

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"Re(1):Please, say this is just a rumor..." , posted Thu 20 Jun 14:13

The definition of nudity varies from place to place, you know. In some places, bikinis are nudity, in some places half a bikini would be considered nudity (in the US, for instance) and in some places only less than half of a bikini would be considered nudity. And then, there are some places that just don't care.

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"unconfirmed" , posted Thu 20 Jun 15:06

If there is any actual nudity in the game, they would most likely show it at an angle where no revealing parts would be exposed, much like how DOA2 and 3 handled it.

And for the last F'in time, IT IS NOT PORN. I'm sick of people misconceiving this series and this game as such.

RugalBernstein

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"Re(1):unconfirmed" , posted Thu 20 Jun 18:45:

I remember an excellent quote from Hazzan, which I think sums this title up well: " It's like porn for all ages! " .. Ho ho ho, how perceptive. ^_^ Just because it's obviously trying to use the amazing female bod to sell itself doesn't mean you can't like it or anything, though. Hell, I think this game looks marginally more interesting than DOA 2 or 3 did. It's hardly 100% porn, but you can't say Tecmo isn't trying to use eroticism to sell this title and have the people around you keep a straight face.

Edit: Besides, didn't your old tag say something like " DOA girls in bikinis? Count me in! " ^_^?

[this message was edited by RugalBernstein on Thu 20 Jun 18:50]

Kitsune413
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"Re(1):unconfirmed" , posted Thu 20 Jun 23:43

quote:
If there is any actual nudity in the game, they would most likely show it at an angle where no revealing parts would be exposed, much like how DOA2 and 3 handled it.

And for the last F'in time, IT IS NOT PORN. I'm sick of people misconceiving this series and this game as such.

Heh, I knew this would happen, however, I figured somebody would bring it up sometime, might as well do it myself.

First of all, Everybody is acting like it's in the game. Most likely it isn't. It's just a rumor and it looks like Tecmo is teasing people.

Second, DOA has great gameplay, When I play half the time I don't ever even see the girls because we don't use them much around here. we like the fighting engine. the fact that the characters are gorgeous and anime influenced may be a bonus, but it doesn't change the reason we play it, which is for the fighting engine.

Same reason we play Kof.

So until this becomes something other than a rumor I suggest everybody stops acting like it's the truth. So far the game is just fanservice and I hope it stays so. For reasons like the posts you people gave.

I'll buy it either way, because I like DOA. I won't support any kind of nude code, but with all the mini games and everything else, I'm still fairly positive that the game will play well.

Juke Joint Jezebel

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"Re(2):unconfirmed" , posted Fri 21 Jun 01:19

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But I can see girls in real life, I can watch them in bikinis playing volleyball,

omg, i nearly forgot ..... IT'S SUMMER!! (over here, at least)
i haven't been to the beach in over a year. i really gotta go. beats waiting for that doa volleyball game to come out

quote:
Second, DOA has great gameplay, When I play half the time I don't ever even see the girls because we don't use them much around here. we like the fighting engine. the fact that the characters are gorgeous and anime influenced may be a bonus, but it doesn't change the reason we play it, which is for the fighting engine.

me neither! well, i use the girls a lot (because speed's a big plus for me. most girl characters are faster than the guys), but i'm too busy trying to slam the other guy's ass into the ground to notice the girls. anyways, that's what replay is for

with the slow motion and all

Gojira

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"Re(3):unconfirmed" , posted Fri 21 Jun 02:28

He probably just meant "partial nudity". People make that mistake all the time.

How about a nice Hawaiian BEATDOWN?!!

Shin ATproof

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"Re(4):unconfirmed" , posted Fri 21 Jun 06:18

quote:
He probably just meant "partial nudity". People make that mistake all the time.

Partial nudity is better than no nudity!

LOL!

U-Fire
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"Re(5):unconfirmed" , posted Fri 21 Jun 07:53

Honestly, I doubt that'll be in the game. If they're that concerned about making you fap, they'd might as well make a full fledged hentai game. This is most likely a rumor. As the game stands, it's already omake.

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Ishmael
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"Re(6):unconfirmed" , posted Fri 21 Jun 09:57

Hmm, this reads more like the forum moderator having a bit of fun stirring things up among the fans than anything. By stating things along the lines of "DoA X Volleyball will NOT feature hot monkey sex!" and then being blase about what the eventual rating of the game will be it's not only gotten people to start wondering about what actually *is* going to be in the game but to talk about it as well. Who would have guessed before E3 that a volleyball game would be generating this much buzz? If this keeps up DoAXV is going to end up with more hype than MGS2 enjoyed.

Kitsune413
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"Re(7):unconfirmed" , posted Fri 21 Jun 10:50

quote:
Hmm, this reads more like the forum moderator having a bit of fun stirring things up among the fans than anything. By stating things along the lines of "DoA X Volleyball will NOT feature hot monkey sex!" and then being blase about what the eventual rating of the game will be it's not only gotten people to start wondering about what actually *is* going to be in the game but to talk about it as well. Who would have guessed before E3 that a volleyball game would be generating this much buzz? If this keeps up DoAXV is going to end up with more hype than MGS2 enjoyed.

Thats exactly what I'm thinking. The post didn't seem to be referring to the possiblity of a topless mode, which was a rumor that showed up in the Official Xbox Magazine, it was addressed later on in the topic however by the moderator.

"There could be? But then again?"

Just sounds like him playing with the fans.

The game comes incredibly close with that CG of Helena, but I don't think it will get any closer.

DKW
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"Re(8):unconfirmed" , posted Fri 21 Jun 11:20

"Partial nudity" would be infinitely worse than actual nudity. Away-from-the-front angles, well, I've already found them cheesy, but at least they don't raise false hopes.

I'm glad this is just a (really dumb) rumor and hope it stays like it.

Might wire up Tecmo anyway, just to be safe.

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"Re(1):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Fri 21 Jun 13:26

quote:
We're creating a Beach Volleyball game that we invisioned a long time ago. Yes, it will have beautiful women and some objectionable material. We're creating the game the way we want it to be, we are not striving for a Teen or Mature rating. Whatever ESRB gives us, is what we have to live with. We will not have any Sexual Intercourse or Penetration in the game, that is the only thing that can make it a Adults Only game. Having nudity will not neccessarily mean will receive a Adults Only rating. Rated R movies is like having a Mature rating in a way.
The game will not suffer in gameplay, just imagine the fluidness of DOA3 but playing VolleyBall. Plus, it's not only a VolleyBall game?

"Finn"

To me this sounds like it's being misread... what I get out of reading that is they aren't going to cut stuff out (like certain swimsuits I guess) to ensure they get a T or even an M rating and compare such as how R movies (comparable to M games) have full nudity yet aren't given NC-17 ratings.

then again, maybe it's Tobal 2 and one of the testers found out how to make the swimsuits flesh colored when customizing and they're afraid the ESRB is going to bitch and moan about that...

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"Re(2):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Sat 22 Jun 17:14

quote:
We're creating a Beach Volleyball game that we invisioned a long time ago. Yes, it will have beautiful women and some objectionable material. We're creating the game the way we want it to be, we are not striving for a Teen or Mature rating. Whatever ESRB gives us, is what we have to live with. We will not have any Sexual Intercourse or Penetration in the game, that is the only thing that can make it a Adults Only game. Having nudity will not neccessarily mean will receive a Adults Only rating. Rated R movies is like having a Mature rating in a way.
The game will not suffer in gameplay, just imagine the fluidness of DOA3 but playing VolleyBall. Plus, it's not only a VolleyBall game?

"Finn"

LOL I think some of you take it seriously. Personally I dun care if the game characters shows nipples or not since America is like the only nation to consider topless females obcene for younger viewers even though it is not a sex organ. Beside, if you're lik e me and watched a zillion japanese animes, U get used to see topless girls. Heck in Japan, cartoons for kids like Saliormoon and Tenchi have girls in the buff all the time. I just think what Temco is trying to say is that they don't want to censor their game for the U.S. audience if they do include nudity(their statement is a rumor however). Besides, DOA 1 and 2 has nudity in their games and I dun see anyone complainin'(U can see Kasumi's nipples through in the US intro of DOA1 and kasumi is *gasp* nude in DOA2). Temco may do the same in which their gals will be nude, but will not have any nipples or cover it up with weather or whatever. I also seen another games have nudity as well(male brief nudity) which did not get an adult rating. I dun think showing a lill' T and A should get an Adult ratin since it is not graphic or sick as showin' pie.

BTW: Y is brief nudity is so much worst than ripping a guy's head off or blowing off a person's head?
Some of you guys R just over reacting. Let's just wait and see if Temco does do these things.

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"Re(3):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Sat 22 Jun 17:54

People keep bringing up that breasts aren't a sex organ, but please, no matter what country, breasts are seen as a sexual turn on. There is a difference between a man's chest and a woman's chest. I don't think it's gonna happen anyway, and either way, I don't have an X-box so I don't care, but I don't want people to say people play DoA just for the girls. I don't like the first one that much but i love 2 and 3 for the good fighting (plus I think it's awesome that Ryu Hayabusa is in it, I love Ninja Gaiden!). Still, I love Kasumi and Tina and all the DoA girls, but they aren't the reason I play the game!

Shin ATproof

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"Re(4):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Sat 22 Jun 18:07

Am I the only one that WANTS an "AO" rated game!? If it's going to be DOA then so be it...I'll get my H with a kick ass fighter!

Partial nudity is better than no nudity! I'll take ANY form of nudity if video games...ESPECIALLY fighters, which is my absolute favorite genre of video game!

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"Re(5):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Sat 22 Jun 21:10

I don't know about this. Remember what happened with the infamous nude unlock in DOA2? It totally misrepresented the true spirit of DOA.

Seriously though, I'm pretty sure that the main demographic of DOA isn't old enough to buy AO games, so I think this will stay in the land of 'PG-13 almost naked / naked from behind shots.'

Shin ATproof

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"Re(6):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Sun 23 Jun 00:48

quote:
I don't know about this. Remember what happened with the infamous nude unlock in DOA2? It totally misrepresented the true spirit of DOA.

Seriously though, I'm pretty sure that the main demographic of DOA isn't old enough to buy AO games, so I think this will stay in the land of 'PG-13 almost naked / naked from behind shots.'

The fighting games community NEEDS an AO rated game! Most just don't realize it yet...

Oh and I agree...that trick on that Import DC version of DOA2 with the naked Kasumi did take away the charm of the game. Fetish clothing is FAR better than full nudity...however if there were half naked characters then we are talking a whole different story...^_^

Gojira

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"Re(9):unconfirmed" , posted Sun 23 Jun 02:52

quote:
"Partial nudity" would be infinitely worse than actual nudity. Away-from-the-front angles, well, I've already found them cheesy, but at least they don't raise false hopes.

I'm glad this is just a (really dumb) rumor and hope it stays like it.

Might wire up Tecmo anyway, just to be safe.

False hopes? From what? I didn't know it was such a big deal to some people.

How about a nice Hawaiian BEATDOWN?!!

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"Re(7):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Sun 23 Jun 04:03

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I don't know about this. Remember what happened with the infamous nude unlock in DOA2? It totally misrepresented the true spirit of DOA.

Are you talking about unlocking the missing part of the DOA2 intro, with Kasumi (or cloned Kasumi) is floating in ooze? I don't think it misrepresented DOA at all.

1.) It was a pretty tasteful clip of Kasumi. The ooze made it hard to see the body clearly, and it wasn't done in any sort of raunchy way. It made pretty decent sense to the DOA2 plot.

2.) Any company that pioneered crazy bouncing breasts in their first 3D fighter isn't going to be known as a clean and wholesome series.

quote:

The fighting games community NEEDS an AO rated game! Most just don't realize it yet...

I think if anything, the first AO game would be made by a small company that is either starting off, or has done numerous AO-type games for the PC (in US or Japan). I don't think a established console 3rd party like Tecmo or Acclaim would do it... AO ratings are uncharted waters to them, and it could really tarnish their rep more than any M-rated game with girls taking off their tops.

That, and I would wonder if 1st party companies like Sega, Sony or Microsoft would even welcome a 3rd party who would make AO games. It's not like they beg for them to flock on over to their consoles (at least, not in public).

Radish
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"Re(8):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Sun 23 Jun 07:19

quote:

Are you talking about unlocking the missing part of the DOA2 intro, with Kasumi (or cloned Kasumi) is floating in ooze? I don't think it misrepresented DOA at all.

1.) It was a pretty tasteful clip of Kasumi. The ooze made it hard to see the body clearly, and it wasn't done in any sort of raunchy way. It made pretty decent sense to the DOA2 plot.

2.) Any company that pioneered crazy bouncing breasts in their first 3D fighter isn't going to be known as a clean and wholesome series.

No, less than a year ago a bunch of hackers released a fan disk which allowed you to play as naked characters in DOA2. Tecmo sued them to take it off the market. Their wording was "it misrepresents the true spirit of Dead or Alive" or something like that. Then it came out that in reality, the hackers merely unlocked a hidden nude option that the programmers had left in. It was totally unlockable by conventional means, but was left in there I guess since Team Ninja assumed no one would find it. This just made the already ludicrous "misrepresenting spirit" quote (because we all know DOA is about fan-service) hypocritical as well.

Shin ATproof

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"Re(8):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Sun 23 Jun 12:34

quote:
I don't know about this. Remember what happened with the infamous nude unlock in DOA2? It totally misrepresented the true spirit of DOA.

Are you talking about unlocking the missing part of the DOA2 intro, with Kasumi (or cloned Kasumi) is floating in ooze? I don't think it misrepresented DOA at all.

1.) It was a pretty tasteful clip of Kasumi. The ooze made it hard to see the body clearly, and it wasn't done in any sort of raunchy way. It made pretty decent sense to the DOA2 plot.

2.) Any company that pioneered crazy bouncing breasts in their first 3D fighter isn't going to be known as a clean and wholesome series.

That's not what I'm talking about:

1)For the limited edition of the DC game that came out in Japan there was a Gameshark code or something I believe that allowed you to play a nude Kasumi...she is supposed to be the Kasumi we see in the "secret" part of the intro.

2)Some fans made a hack version of the game where ALL of the female characters were naked.

Full nudity in a DOA game just doesn't feel like DOA. Partial nudity would work nicely though. Ya know like some dominatrix clothing with an open top or something like that would be fine. A loose fitting(or tiny) kimono that gives you a little peepshow would be great. THAT feels like DOA.

quote:

The fighting games community NEEDS an AO rated game! Most just don't realize it yet...

I think if anything, the first AO game would be made by a small company that is either starting off, or has done numerous AO-type games for the PC (in US or Japan). I don't think a established console 3rd party like Tecmo or Acclaim would do it... AO ratings are uncharted waters to them, and it could really tarnish their rep more than any M-rated game with girls taking off their tops.

That, and I would wonder if 1st party companies like Sega, Sony or Microsoft would even welcome a 3rd party who would make AO games. It's not like they beg for them to flock on over to their consoles (at least, not in public).

Microsoft keeps pitching itself as a "mature gamer system" they also like to use PC or PC-ish games. Tecmo apparently likes Xbox as well so I see Microsoft being the first to have an A0 game than Sony or Nintendo. Also yeah the first company stateside to release an A0 rated game may be some "noname-company that-just-started" but I don't thinks it too far off that we will see sex in videogames that are released into mainstream US consoles...especially since congress is thinking about several bills and some of them mention enforcing a law to have store owners card it's customers depending of the rating of the game.

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"Re(9):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Sun 23 Jun 13:05

quote:

Microsoft keeps pitching itself as a "mature gamer system" they also like to use PC or PC-ish games. Tecmo apparently likes Xbox as well so I see Microsoft being the first to have an A0 game than Sony or Nintendo. Also yeah the first company stateside to release an A0 rated game may be some "noname-company that-just-started" but I don't thinks it too far off that we will see sex in videogames that are released into mainstream US consoles...especially since congress is thinking about several bills and some of them mention enforcing a law to have store owners card it's customers depending of the rating of the game.

Right now I don't think the market is ready for AO console games. The ESRB ratings guide and the standard movie ratings don't really sync up quite right. Even the most gory MA videogames don't quite meet up with their R level counterparts. An R movie can have nudity and a certain level of sex, harsh violence and just about any language imaginable. The closest we've gotten in any of those categories in videogames is really PG-13 level stuff. Even GTA or SoA's violence seems cartoony and exagerated compared to something in a movie like Seven or Casino. I think the strongest sexual overtones were either in Fear Effect or when they're stongly infered to have have happened in between cut screens (think Xenogears.)

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"Re(9):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Sun 23 Jun 13:24:

quote:

Full nudity in a DOA game just doesn't feel like DOA. Partial nudity would work nicely though. Ya know like some dominatrix clothing with an open top or something like that would be fine. A loose fitting(or tiny) kimono that gives you a little peepshow would be great. THAT feels like DOA.

Oh, I understand what you mean. You are saying that it would be better as a teaser-type of mode where you can sort of see stuff, but it's not blatantly straight-forward? Yeah, then I would agree it would be a little unusual from a DOA game. Usually they beat around the bush. (no pun intended)

And I knew about the Kasumi Gameshark code thingie, but I assumed the hacker version just manipulated the head of the Kasumi nude model (from the ooze segment) and swapped it with any of the other girls. I didn't think each female fighter would have their own nude 3d model. Having a topless mode in DOAXBV would definitely be contradictory to what they said about the lawsuit against the DOA2 hackers, but still... they had to do it to protect their intellectual property. So I don't blame them for saying something like that.

quote:

Microsoft keeps pitching itself as a "mature gamer system" they also like to use PC or PC-ish games. Tecmo apparently likes Xbox as well so I see Microsoft being the first to have an A0 game than Sony or Nintendo. Also yeah the first company stateside to release an A0 rated game may be some "noname-company that-just-started" but I don't thinks it too far off that we will see sex in videogames that are released into mainstream US consoles...especially since congress is thinking about several bills and some of them mention enforcing a law to have store owners card it's customers depending of the rating of the game.

I would assume that if an AO-rated game ever came out, it would be difficult to sell in regular stores. Video game stores are so similar to movie rental places... I could imagine the mainstream video game stores (Gamestop, EB, Toys R' US) would not carry the games on their shelves because they don't want to be involved with anything that extreme. It's like how Blockbuster or Hollywood video are extremely mainstream, which is why they don't want to carry an X-rated section... to keep their rep good and family-oriented.

It's possible that non-chain stores and mail order places would be the only ones carrying AO titles. And of course, the less outlets you can sell a game, the lower the potential profits. I think that's what's really keeping high-profile 3rd parties from even attempting an AO game (that and keeping a decent reputation).

[this message was edited by EddyT on Sun 23 Jun 13:27]

Kitsune413
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"Re(9):possibility of nudity in DOA X volleyba" , posted Sun 23 Jun 15:24

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No, less than a year ago a bunch of hackers released a fan disk which allowed you to play as naked characters in DOA2. Tecmo sued them to take it off the market. Their wording was "it misrepresents the true spirit of Dead or Alive" or something like that. Then it came out that in reality, the hackers merely unlocked a hidden nude option that the programmers had left in. It was totally unlockable by conventional means, but was left in there I guess since Team Ninja assumed no one would find it. This just made the already ludicrous "misrepresenting spirit" quote (because we all know DOA is about fan-service) hypocritical as well.

I don't believe it was a nude mode left in there by the programmers. Every single DOA character is nude, the clothes go over their bodies. So anybody with alot of skill and lots and lots of time could seperate the character models from the clothing. Luckily that was squelched, Seriously, though, I think that DOA just isn't like that! they use a ton of fanservice, but it's no worse than alot of average non-H animes in japan.