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| Hungrywolf 1055th Post
 
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|  "short rant about some GCN complaints..."
, posted Wed 19 Jun 18:00
This isn't directed to anyone here, but I've heard complaints in numerous places in regard the the GCN controller, mostly by anti-nintendo people. I agree that it's no good for a 2d fighter like CvS2:EO, and I want to say: Just buy a joystick when it's released for the Cube. I swear I am so sick of the controller complaints, I agree it's not great for Fighters (except 3d ones, well, it worked fine on Bloody Roar: Primal Fury), but that's not a big problem if you just pick up a joystick, which I'm sure will be released for the cube sometime (I think I've seen a picture of one that is planned to be released). Also, someone on the Capcom RE message boards complained about the size of GCN's discs and said it took him 30 min. to get the disc out because he was afraid he'd break it. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I just posted this here because the CvS2:EO discussion reminded me of these complaints that are really starting to get on my nerves (when they are directed as reasons they hate the Nintendo Gamecube). Again, this isn't directed at anyone here in the cafe, just a rant about other people I had to get off of my chest. That complaint about disc size was just soooo pathetic.
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| Gojira 463th Post
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| "Re(1):short rant about some GCN complaints..." , posted Wed 19 Jun 19:18
I like my GC but I don't understand this whole pro-GC controller crap at ALL. It's not made for human hands.
PS2 you can place your thumb on all of the face buttons and your index/middle finger on the shoulder buttons, giving you easy access to 8 buttons. Great, that's more than you need but who can complain about that?
Hell, even DC (which I hate also), you can at least put your thumb in on all of the face buttons and your index fingers on the shoulders so button access is not a problem.
But Nintendo's controllers after the SNES are NOT COMFORTABLE. On the GC, there are 4 buttons on the face but the most you can keep your right thumb on at the same time is only 2 or 3, thanks to the non-intuitive layout and how big the stupid A button is. You could try to place your hand on the controller face but then how will you reach the shoulder buttons? And speaking of those shoulders, just forget about even trying to press any of the shoulder buttons quickly because they're too resilient. Plus the d-pad is really small and trying to keep your left thumb on the d-pad and left index finger on the L button is REALLY uncomfortable, which makes it useless as a d-pad.
It's not comfortable, it's not intuitive, it's not lightweight (being heavy is never an advantage), it's not even cost-efficient. Without any of those qualities it's a worthlessly-designed controller.
How about a nice Hawaiian BEATDOWN?!!
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| Fro Boy11 560th Post
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| "Re(2):short rant about some GCN complaints..." , posted Wed 19 Jun 21:26
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I like my GC but I don't understand this whole pro-GC controller crap at ALL. It's not made for human hands.
PS2 you can place your thumb on all of the face buttons and your index/middle finger on the shoulder buttons, giving you easy access to 8 buttons. Great, that's more than you need but who can complain about that?
Hell, even DC (which I hate also), you can at least put your thumb in on all of the face buttons and your index fingers on the shoulders so button access is not a problem.
But Nintendo's controllers after the SNES are NOT COMFORTABLE. On the GC, there are 4 buttons on the face but the most you can keep your right thumb on at the same time is only 2 or 3, thanks to the non-intuitive layout and how big the stupid A button is. You could try to place your hand on the controller face but then how will you reach the shoulder buttons? And speaking of those shoulders, just forget about even trying to press any of the shoulder buttons quickly because they're too resilient. Plus the d-pad is really small and trying to keep your left thumb on the d-pad and left index finger on the L button is REALLY uncomfortable, which makes it useless as a d-pad.
It's not comfortable, it's not intuitive, it's not lightweight (being heavy is never an advantage), it's not even cost-efficient. Without any of those qualities it's a worthlessly-designed controller.
Actually, I think that GC controller is VERY good and comfortable. It's not for games like CvS2 and the like, but it's still a VERY good controller. I guess it depends on the size of the persons hands whether or not it's comfortable. I mean, everything is in a good place. Most of the games on the GC use the analog and the C-stick thing for directional stuff. I've been playing WrestleMania X8 all weekend (great game BTW!) and you need to use ALL the buttons to play that game and it takes some getting used to, but after a while you start doing things VERY easily. I'm betting that I can play CvS2 on the GC controller better than I can on the PS2 controller. I just suck that way. I played it on PS2 and I couldn't do ANYTHING. DC still has the BEST controller.
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| Hungrywolf 1057th Post
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| "Re(3):short rant about some GCN complaints..." , posted Thu 20 Jun 05:55
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I like my GC but I don't understand this whole pro-GC controller crap at ALL. It's not made for human hands.
PS2 you can place your thumb on all of the face buttons and your index/middle finger on the shoulder buttons, giving you easy access to 8 buttons. Great, that's more than you need but who can complain about that?
Hell, even DC (which I hate also), you can at least put your thumb in on all of the face buttons and your index fingers on the shoulders so button access is not a problem.
But Nintendo's controllers after the SNES are NOT COMFORTABLE. On the GC, there are 4 buttons on the face but the most you can keep your right thumb on at the same time is only 2 or 3, thanks to the non-intuitive layout and how big the stupid A button is. You could try to place your hand on the controller face but then how will you reach the shoulder buttons? And speaking of those shoulders, just forget about even trying to press any of the shoulder buttons quickly because they're too resilient. Plus the d-pad is really small and trying to keep your left thumb on the d-pad and left index finger on the L button is REALLY uncomfortable, which makes it useless as a d-pad.
It's not comfortable, it's not intuitive, it's not lightweight (being heavy is never an advantage), it's not even cost-efficient. Without any of those qualities it's a worthlessly-designed controller.
Actually, I think that GC controller is VERY good and comfortable. It's not for games like CvS2 and the like, but it's still a VERY good controller. I guess it depends on the size of the persons hands whether or not it's comfortable. I mean, everything is in a good place. Most of the games on the GC use the analog and the C-stick thing for directional stuff. I've been playing WrestleMania X8 all weekend (great game BTW!) and you need to use ALL the buttons to play that game and it takes some getting used to, but after a while you start doing things VERY easily. I'm betting that I can play CvS2 on the GC controller better than I can on the PS2 controller. I just suck that way. I played it on PS2 and I couldn't do ANYTHING. DC still has the BEST controller.
I love Wrestlemania X8's gameplay. Oh, and if you don't have a wavebird yet and you have a GCN get one....It feels lighter than the reg. controller to me, plus it works perfect....I don't ever want to use one of my regular controllers anymore...I love the GCN controller, I didn't have a problem with the 64 one either though.
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| Juan 2103th Post
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| "Re(4):short rant about some GCN complaints..." , posted Thu 20 Jun 08:48:
Im not very fond of the Xbox, but when i played it the controller felt like a slighty bigger dc controller, when i tested JSRF and DOA it felt ok, so i dont really understand what was the big deal (of course opinions/hand movements/adaptation if different with each person.) Im sure the S controller must be nice tho.
The controller i didnt like was the n64 one, i could play with it, but its very unfriendly. You really cant compare it to the gamecube one.
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I also feel the same way about the American XBOX pad. The S Controller smashes that fat piece of garbage into the ground.
don't talk about "the hamburger" like that. it makes a good paperweight hehe
on a serious note, well, it's really, really, uh, big. maybe they thought Americans like everything big, even their controllers
i heard the Japanese xbox controller looks cool though. haven't seen any pictures of it yet
http://www.buttermonster.com
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| Time Mage 631th Post
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| "Re(5):short rant about some GCN complaints..." , posted Thu 20 Jun 11:05
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The controller i didnt like was the n64 one, i could play with it, but its very unfriendly. You really cant compare it to the gamecube one.
It's strange, I have to be one of the few people that thinks that the N64 controller is marvelous. The idea of having two "horns", one for the analog and one for the d-pad is great, and wasn't exploited enough (due to the incredible lack of fighting games, among other things).
Also, when I tried the GC (with Rogue Leader, awesome), I didn't liked too much the controller. The acces to the z button (the shoulder non-analog button) was difficult if you were using the L and R buttons, and the different sizes of the buttons didn't convinced me, also. I only tried it for 15 minutes, that's true, but the first impression was not very good.
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