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Toxico

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"Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Sat 15 Jun 17:42:

I have recently thought to post some ideas that I have been dragging along since a long time; there are three categories on this event:

Best & Worst Main Character.
Best & Worst Supporting Actor.
Best & Worst Villain.

Of course, the "main character" part might produce some serious flames; but that won't happen because Papá Mono forbid it , also note that this even is not restricted to only fighting games; crap, you can even say that the chess pieces suck ¬_¬... It is allowed to show the "honorable mention" next to the winners, wich are characters that should get the prize yet failed.

Since my stand on the issue is controversial, I will keep my opinion stored for sometime. Enjoy kids

My positive parts:

Best Main Character:
Heihachi Mishima (Tekken 2)

Best Supporting Actor:
Karman Cole (Art of Fighting 3)
Honorable mention to: Lee Chaolan (Tekken 2)

Best Villian:
Juan
Honorable mention to: Geese Howard & Papá Mono

[this message was edited by Toxico on Sat 15 Jun 17:49]

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whitesword

872th Post

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"Re(1):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Sat 15 Jun 18:16

Best & Worst Main Character.

Best: *sigh* I honestly can't pick anyone other than Ryu, he's not just a main character, he is THE main character, and he's also one of the few fighting game main characters that puts the fight ahead of everything else.

Worst: Nah, I'm not gonna pick on SNK, instead, I'm gonna spoon Namco!

Why the spoons is the main character in Soul Calibur using a spoonin' STICK!?!? I HATE Kilik! (as a main character!)

Best & Worst Supporting Actor.

Best: Zelkin Fiskekrogen, the proud birdman from Star Gladiator. His actions have determined the shape of the world in SG, how? He stopped a war...that's all.

Worst: Hmm, a lot of spoony characters out there...I simply can't pick, but I will mention Plasma Sword's Kaede and Prince cause I think they ruin SG's shiny cast of characters!

Best & Worst Villain.

Best: Heh, I'll go with Bison, he's just so much fun! "Psycho Crushaaa!"

Worst: Ugh, I can't think of one right now...I think I secretly love all villans!

Burn baby! Burn!
The Burning Fist...returns!

Rid Hershel

2857th Post

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"chu chu chu" , posted Sat 15 Jun 22:39

If you ask me...

Best Main Character:
Stahn Aileron, from Tales of Destiny. He's the funniest main character ever! Yatta!
(honorable mentions to Symphony of the Night's Alucard and Strider Hiryu)

Best Supporting Character:
Arche Klaine, from Tales of Phantasia, she is by far the most popular Tales character, and that's because she is AWESOME.

Best Villain:
Dhaos, again, from Tales of Phantasia, he looks cool and has a VERY interesting story that I won't spoil.

yup, I'm a Tales fan...

RugalBernstein

2051th Post

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"Re(1):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Sat 15 Jun 22:59

My positive parts:

Best Main Character:
Goemon, of Ganbare Goemon. A long-time role model for me.. ha ha ha! ^_^
Honourable mention: Strider Hiryu. Who is more heroic than Strider? ^_^

Best Supporting Actor:
Maria Renard: I like her for some reason..
Honourable mention: Ebisumaru!! Ha ha ha, I still laugh at this guy...

Best Villian:
Dracula!! The prince of the night!! Mwa ha ha ha ha!!
Honourable mention: Geese Howard... tough one.. damn, there are TOO MANY good villains!! ARGH!

whitesword

875th Post

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"Re(2):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Sat 15 Jun 23:14

Hey! I thought this was fighting games only!
Oh well, here's my non-fighting game list!

Best & Worst Main Character.

Best: Miss Tron! And I don't need to give any reasons!

Worst: Kazuki from Front Mission 3! The only reason I remember his name is because I hate him so much! He's probably the most annoying main character ever!

Best & Worst Supporting Actor.

Best: The Servbots...all 41 of them!

Worst: Hmm, a lot of spoony characters out there...I simply can't pick.

Best & Worst Villain.

Best: Master Teisel Bonne! When I grow up, I wanna be just like him!

Honorable mentions are Miss Tron, and of course, Kefka!

Worst: Ugh, I can't think of one right now...I think I secretly love all villans!

Burn baby! Burn!
The Burning Fist...returns!

HazZan

646th Post

Red Carpet Regular Member

"Re(1):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Sun 16 Jun 03:21

quote:
I have recently thought to post some ideas that I have been dragging along since a long time; there are three categories on this event:

Best & Worst Main Character.
Best & Worst Supporting Actor.
Best & Worst Villain.

Of course, the "main character" part might produce some serious flames; but that won't happen because Papá Mono forbid it , also note that this even is not restricted to only fighting games; crap, you can even say that the chess pieces suck ¬_¬... It is allowed to show the "honorable mention" next to the winners, wich are characters that should get the prize yet failed.

Since my stand on the issue is controversial, I will keep my opinion stored for sometime. Enjoy kids

My positive parts:

Best Main Character:
Heihachi Mishima (Tekken 2)

Best Supporting Actor:
Karman Cole (Art of Fighting 3)
Honorable mention to: Lee Chaolan (Tekken 2)

Best Villian:
Juan
Honorable mention to: Geese Howard & Papá Mono

Best & Worst Main Character:
Worst: Ryu and Ken
Best: Ryo (Shenmu)

Best & Worst Supporting Character:
Worst: Dee Jay
Best: Guy and Gen

Best & Worst Villain:
Worst: Evil Ryu
Best: Gouki/Shin Gouki and God Rugal

MESSATSU

Zyzyfer

448th Post

Gold Customer

"Re(1):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Sun 16 Jun 07:01

Best & Worst Villain.

Best: Shao Kahn~
Worst: Geese!

*ups the controversy a notch*

아싸아아...월요일임니다! ???
합기도화이팅!!!

Rid Hershel

2858th Post

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"Re(2):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Sun 16 Jun 08:32

Let's go for my hated ones:

Worst main character:
Squall Leohart, for rejecting Quistis Trepe! Special mention to Serge from Chrono Cross, because he looks stupid and is mute. The Front Mission 3 guy was spoony too, and I don't want to rememeber his name!

Worst supporting character:
Chu Chu from Xenogears, no doubt about that! Special mentio to Jar Jar from Episode 1!!! (I know it isn't a game, but...).

Worst villain:
The TRUE final boss from FFIX (I won't spoil it), with villains as cool as Kuja and Garland, we didn't needed that.

Shapermc
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"Re(1):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Sun 16 Jun 11:24

Worst Villan:
Mr Big (I think that is the boss from AOF1)

Worst Main Character: Tomba (God get some balls and pull all of that crap out of your stomach: And please god no more sequals)

Best Supporting Character: Caffine Nicotine

Best hero: I have to agree with Strider Hryu
Honerable mention: Ryu (from Ninja Gaiden)

Best Villan: Geese Duh!

Burning Kyo

460th Post

Gold Customer

"Re(1): Papá Mono gaming awards" , posted Sun 16 Jun 12:05:

BEST :

Best Main Character : Kyo Kusanagi
(honorable mention to Ryo Hazuki from ShenMue)
Best Supporting Character : Iori Yagami
(honorable mention to Kyosuke Kagami from Justice Gakuen)
Best Villain: Goenitz
(honorable mention to Igniz)
WORST :

WMC : Ryu Hoshi
WSC : Andy Bogard
WV : Wyler from AoF3

[this message was edited by Burning Kyo on Sun 16 Jun 12:13]

Satoshi Miwa

1138th Post

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"Re(1):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Sun 16 Jun 16:36

Best Main Character: Batsu from Rival Schools wins out slowly, just cause he's more of a reluctant hero in the storyline.

Honorable Mention: Rock Howard, Haohmaru

Worst Main Character: Eiji from Toshinden. Ryu-clone with a Sword...bleah

Dishonorable Mention: Fei Long from Mortal Kombat. Bruce Lee clone, and not as intresting...

Best Supporting character: Joe Higashi - Travels and helps Terry out in fights, provides comic relief, and is a blast to play

Honorable mention: Hinta, Kyosuke

Worst Supporting character: Andy Bogard - Still reminds me of Ken, and is not as cool as Terry. Plus what sane man would run from Mai...

Best Villian: Kain R Heinlein - Complex backstory, and isn't out for world domination. Plus a snappy dresser

Honorable Mention: Bision, Hyo Iwamano, Mizuki, Kagami, Rugal

Worst Villian: Koryu - Damn bear nearly ruins the awesomness of Last Blade 2 with his over cheapness. And he doesn't dress nicely, unlike otehr SNK uber bosses...

Orion

495th Post

Gold Customer

"Re(1):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Sun 16 Jun 18:20:

hummm lets see....

-Best Main Character:K Dash (for stoling the spotlight from Kyo)

honorable mention: Kyo and Iori

-Best Supporting Actor: Andy bogard

honorable mentionKen Masters (who cares, who is ken??)

-Best Villian: Wyler ^_^ (Art of fighting 3)WYLER CRUSH!!!

honorable mention: M. Bison (ST II a great son uba bichu boss)

[this message was edited by Orion on Sun 16 Jun 18:29]

TheBeast

494th Post

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"Re(2):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Sun 16 Jun 20:58

My turn:

-Best Main Character: Terry Bogard (He is original, he changes costumes and moves now and then, he raises the child of his arch enemy, who can top that!?)

Honorable mention: Rock Howard

Best Supporting Character: Ukyo(He wields great swordplay, even when he is sick...^_^)

Honorable mention: Robert Garcia, Kula Diamond

-Best Villian: Geese Howard (For having learnt the arts of building jumping AND surviving umpteen times)

honorable mention: M. Bison, Mizuki

-Worst Main Character: Alex (Why was he named main character in SF3? He wasn't at all powerful or any great storyline to boot)

Honorable mention: Ray McDougal (Baked potato!)

Worst Supporting Character: Scorpion of Mortal Kombat(Too many ninjas...)

Honorable mention: Nil

-Worst Villian: Wyler!!!!(bad character design, uhhh thats about it)

honorable mention: The boss in the old Double Dragon fighting game. I forgot his name

The only antidote to my poison is death...Hey! No fair! You have a resurrection move??

Time Mage

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"Re(1):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Mon 17 Jun 03:33

Keep in mind that for every character I'm putting, I'm forgrtting at least 2 that deserve the mention:

Best Main Character: Probably Ramza, from FFT. He's honorable, sincere, and not an arrogant stupid as others.
Honorable mentions to: Link, Alucard, Galuf from FFV, Will from Illusion of Gaia/Time, Megaman, Ryu, Kenshin Himura, Indiana Jones and more that I don't remember.

Worst Main Character: Squall Lionheart. He's arrogant, stupid, silent, confused... Argh.
Honorable mentions to: Specially Tsubasa from Captain Tsubasa, Seiya from Saint Seiya, Luke Skywalker from you-know-where, Anakin Skywalker from you-know-where ep.2, Rinoa from FF8, and much more I'm forgetting.

Best Supporting Actor: Kim Kaphwan, because he fights for justice, and believes in what he does.
Honorable mentions to: Buff... The list is long here... I'll list some: Ikki from Saint Seiya, Vegeta from Dragon Ball, Saitou and Sanosuke from Rurouni Kenshin, Edgar, Vincent, Quistis, Freya, Agrias, Orlandu from different FF, Magus from Chrono Trigger, ... Well, much more, but I can't recall them now.

Worst Supporting Actor: ...Hinako? I really don't remember any supportig actor that hit my nerves that much, so she belogs more to the "honorable mentions".
Honorable mentions to: Many, many. To put as example, R.Mika, Yamsha (DB)...

Best Villain: Sephirot? Now the doubt is because of the big quantity of candidates. Anyway, he's cool, has a loooong katana, and is powerfull.
Honorable mentions to: Many. Let's begin: Kefka, Vega(claw), M.Bison(hat), Geese, Gill (yes, Gill), Urien, Makoto Shishio (Rurouni Kenshin)... And much more.

ONSLAUGHT

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"Re(2):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Mon 17 Jun 09:20

Best Main Character: Ryu! Is there anyone else??

Worst Main Character: Mmmmhhh... probably Terry...

Best Supporting Actor: Ken! You can't have a complete SF without Ken!

Worst Supporting Actor: Andy!

Best Villain: M. Bison (and probably Gill as a second one)

-'Cause the deaths of countless innocents in selfish battles again and again and again until we're both dead... is that what you want? Think about it HERO!

TheBeast

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"Re(3):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Mon 17 Jun 11:28

quote:
Best Main Character: Ryu! Is there anyone else??

Worst Main Character: Mmmmhhh... probably Terry...

Best Supporting Actor: Ken! You can't have a complete SF without Ken!

Worst Supporting Actor: Andy!

Best Villain: M. Bison (and probably Gill as a second one)

Hmmmmm actually we will have to refer to Toxico on what he actually meant by "supporting". To me, in all SF games, Ken is considered one of the main characters despite Ryu sort of stealing the limelight. Notice in the older SF games 1P always start with Ryu and 2P always start with Ken? If you asked me, "supporting" is someone whom I would master next after the main characters - that was why I kinda hesistated when I put down Robert as one of my choices.

Anyway, that comment is just a one-man's opinion. By the way, you are really Pro-Capcom and Anti-SNK, eh?

The only antidote to my poison is death...Hey! No fair! You have a resurrection move??

ONSLAUGHT

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"Well... to each his own..." , posted Mon 17 Jun 11:40

quote:
By the way, you are really Pro-Capcom and Anti-SNK, eh?

Pro-Capcom? Hell yeah!!
Anti-SNK??? Hardly...
Just because I like Capcom more than SNK that doesn't make me a SNK hater...
I don't know why people always think that if I'm supporting Capcom I'm hating SNK... I love both companies, but I tend to be more on the Capcom side most of the time, after all, Capcom is my favourite company...

-'Cause the deaths of countless innocents in selfish battles again and again and again until we're both dead... is that what you want? Think about it HERO!

Time Mage

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"Re(1):Well... to each his own..." , posted Mon 17 Jun 14:11

quote:
By the way, you are really Pro-Capcom and Anti-SNK, eh?

Pro-Capcom? Hell yeah!!
Anti-SNK??? Hardly...
Just because I like Capcom more than SNK that doesn't make me a SNK hater...
I don't know why people always think that if I'm supporting Capcom I'm hating SNK... I love both companies, but I tend to be more on the Capcom side most of the time, after all, Capcom is my favourite company...

Well, your post said the contrary... If you like Ryu's attitude, you'll have to like Terry if you know him... I know it's only my opinion, but I think that you're more anti-SNK than you think...

Rid Hershel

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"Re(2):Well... to each his own..." , posted Mon 17 Jun 15:52

quote:
If you like Ryu's attitude, you'll have to like Terry if you know him...

Well, there's a difference between both characters, Terry dates Blue Mary, and Ryu lives with Honda... (see the SF animated movie).

Satoshi Miwa

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"Re(3):Well... to each his own..." , posted Mon 17 Jun 16:50

quote:
Well, there's a difference between both characters, Terry dates Blue Mary, and Ryu lives with Honda... (see the SF animated movie).

Actually Honda was just sorta of a tag along in the movie (wonder how he climbed that mountain to get up there). And Ryu doesn't really stay in one place to really live anywhere...(Though he and Honda do make an odd couple...:)

But yeah, Terry and Ryu are too different takes on the traveling warrior concept. Terry is more of your lone wolf type, a man traveling from place to place and getting caught up in adventure. Whereas Ryu is the wandering warrior, looking for a fight..

Orion

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"Re(3):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Mon 17 Jun 19:12

quote:
Worst Villian: Wyler!!!!(bad character design, uhhh thats about it)

;_; how you can said that!!!

WYLER CRUSH RULES!!!

ONSLAUGHT

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"Re(2):Well... to each his own..." , posted Mon 17 Jun 19:27

quote:
Well, your post said the contrary... If you like Ryu's attitude, you'll have to like Terry if you know him... I know it's only my opinion, but I think that you're more anti-SNK than you think...

Mmmmhhh...
Well, If you love both companies, it's hard to choose a worst hero... That's why I choosed my least fave of the bunch, I love Kyo and K' as main chars, but not Terry, and I never liked Andy...

But if you guys want to think that I hate SNK, well, go ahead that's your opinion...
And to enforce it I will say: Capcom rules! SNK stinks! Happy? good!

-'Cause the deaths of countless innocents in selfish battles again and again and again until we're both dead... is that what you want? Think about it HERO!

whitesword

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"Re(3):Well... to each his own..." , posted Mon 17 Jun 20:24

quote:

But if you guys want to think that I hate SNK, well, go ahead that's your opinion...
And to enforce it I will say: Capcom rules! SNK stinks! Happy? good!

So...you're a Capcomist?

Burn baby! Burn!
The Burning Fist...returns!

Time Mage

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"OK, understood." , posted Tue 18 Jun 01:17

quote:
Mmmmhhh...
Well, If you love both companies, it's hard to choose a worst hero... That's why I choosed my least fave of the bunch, I love Kyo and K' as main chars, but not Terry, and I never liked Andy...

OK, now I understand. I'm sorry if I bothered you.
Anyway, could you give me a reason because you don't like Terry? I mean, there's no need for a reason, I don't like many things and I don't know exactly why, but... Is there any in particular? Just curiosity, you know.

TheBeast

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"Re(4):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Tue 18 Jun 06:45

quote:
Worst Villian: Wyler!!!!(bad character design, uhhh thats about it)

;_; how you can said that!!!

WYLER CRUSH RULES!!!

You don't become a boss by some weird experiment error/ drugs (This will probably cause some negative implications).

You are a boss because you are stronger than others.

The only antidote to my poison is death...Hey! No fair! You have a resurrection move??

Toxico

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"Re(4):Papá Mono gaming awards:" , posted Tue 18 Jun 07:59

quote:
Best Main Character: Ryu! Is there anyone else??

Worst Main Character: Mmmmhhh... probably Terry...

Best Supporting Actor: Ken! You can't have a complete SF without Ken!

Worst Supporting Actor: Andy!

Best Villain: M. Bison (and probably Gill as a second one)

Hmmmmm actually we will have to refer to Toxico on what he actually meant by "supporting". To me, in all SF games, Ken is considered one of the main characters despite Ryu sort of stealing the limelight. Notice in the older SF games 1P always start with Ryu and 2P always start with Ken? If you asked me, "supporting" is someone whom I would master next after the main characters - that was why I kinda hesistated when I put down Robert as one of my choices.

Anyway, that comment is just a one-man's opinion. By the way, you are really Pro-Capcom and Anti-SNK, eh?

"Supporting" it is just like movies; is a character that has a big part in the storyline.

Worst main Ryu
Simple concept, lack individuality

Worst Supporting character Iori Yagami
Only on the NEST saga, nothing to brag about

Worst villain none for the moment

TheBeast

500th Post

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"Re(3):Well... to each his own..." , posted Tue 18 Jun 17:58

quote:
Well, your post said the contrary... If you like Ryu's attitude, you'll have to like Terry if you know him... I know it's only my opinion, but I think that you're more anti-SNK than you think...

Mmmmhhh...
Well, If you love both companies, it's hard to choose a worst hero... That's why I choosed my least fave of the bunch, I love Kyo and K' as main chars, but not Terry, and I never liked Andy...

But if you guys want to think that I hate SNK, well, go ahead that's your opinion...
And to enforce it I will say: Capcom rules! SNK stinks! Happy? good!

Oops...Sorry for asking whether you are a Pro-Capcom and Anti-SNK...I was kinda misled after seeing your poll of the awards...Yes, I truly respect your preferences of characters...

The only antidote to my poison is death...Hey! No fair! You have a resurrection move??

ONSLAUGHT

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"Re(4):Well... to each his own..." , posted Tue 18 Jun 19:40

Time Mage and The Beast:
Worry not, I'm not angry or anything like that, and you didn't bother me at all, I was just making things clear...

And why I don't like Terry?? Well, I like him, I just think he's not a good main char, that's all...

Whitesword:

Hating SNK and loving Capcom is a rule to be capcomist? he he

-'Cause the deaths of countless innocents in selfish battles again and again and again until we're both dead... is that what you want? Think about it HERO!

Iron D

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"Re(5):Well... to each his own..." , posted Wed 19 Jun 00:22:

Since I have so many favorites in the field of videogames, I'm sticking with fighting game characters.

Best Main Character: Tough one. Uhh...It's pretty much a tie between, well, a lot of people, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say Terry Bogard.

Runners up: Hayato, Ryu, Kilik, Haohmaru, Mitsurugi, Kazuya, Jin Kasama, Heihachi, Alex, Batsu, Donovan, Rock Howard

Worst Main Character: Ryo Sakazaki, altough Kyo and K' do come awfully close as runners up.

Best Supporting character: Another tough one, but I'm going out on a limb and picking Morrigan Aensland.

runners up: Genjuro, Ken, Paul Phoenix, Terry Bogard (hey, he was the supporting character in MotW), not sure who the supporting character is for Rival Schools/Project Justice or Plasma Sword...

Worst supporting character: Once again, a tough one. I'm going with Andy Bogard.

Runner up: Robert Garcia

Best Villain: This is the hardest of them all, seeing as I like ALMOST all fighting game villains. Since I don't consider Akuma to be a villain, I'm going to pick Ryuji Yamazaki.

Runners up: Heihachi Mishima, Kazuya Mishima, Cervantes DeLeon, Nightmare, Geese Howard, Dr. Bilstein, M.Bison, Amakusa, Hyo Imawano, Raizo (Imawano?), Kurow, Rugal Bernstein

Worst Villain: Orochi. Pure suckage.

Runners up: ANY god boss (Gill, Omega Rugal, Goenitz, Krizalid, Zero, Ignis, Regular Rugal isn't really a god boss, IMO), Wyler, Mr. Big

Oh, and I too am a Capcomist, but don't think for a split second that I'm anti-SNK. In fact, my above list should mostly prove that...

[this message was edited by Iron D on Wed 19 Jun 00:40]