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| Jazzie D 1170th Post
 
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|  "Re(2):The World Cup Thread - Part Two"
, posted Sat 15 Jun 19:45
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OK, the first thread was too big, and charge time was longer also. So, here's the second part, which hopefully will see Spain's first triumph in the World Cup... OK, OK, stop dreaming.
As for now I'll be happy if tomorrow we defeat Ireland. Their air game will hurt Spain for sure, but I think Spain will win.
Hee hee. That's true.
Checking results.
Germany 1, Paraguay 0
England 3, Denmark 0
Tomorrow:
Sweden vs. Senegal
Spain vs. Ireland
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| TheBeast 489th Post
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| "Re(1):Spain and the luck." , posted Sun 16 Jun 08:30
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You'll better be awake!!! You have to see Spain's power!!
Forget this  ...
AAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Spain 1 - Ireland 1 (3 - 2 in the penalties)
Hmmm... Spain has played the worst match in many, many, many years. Spain was lucky and Ireland didn't play very good, too. If not, Spain wouldn't be there.
Now, let's forget this pathetic match and let's hope for the best against (supposedly) Italy.
One more thing: Saint Iker Casillas!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The best goalkeeper. Ever.
AGREED!!!!!!!
Spain had a very bad match...Ireland was unlucky in the penalties...
Tomorrow's main event:
USA SPORTS TEAM 94 (Lucky, Heavy D!, Brian) VS ART OF FIGHTING TEAM 94 (Ryo, Robert, Takuma)!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will Kyoryugen Karate rule??????
The only antidote to my poison is death...Hey! No fair! You have a resurrection move??
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| Jazzie D 1175th Post
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| "Re(2):Spain and the luck." , posted Sun 16 Jun 08:34
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You'll better be awake!!! You have to see Spain's power!!
Forget this ...
AAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Spain 1 - Ireland 1 (3 - 2 in the penalties)
Hmmm... Spain has played the worst match in many, many, many years. Spain was lucky and Ireland didn't play very good, too. If not, Spain wouldn't be there.
Now, let's forget this pathetic match and let's hope for the best against (supposedly) Italy.
One more thing: Saint Iker Casillas!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The best goalkeeper. Ever.
AGREED!!!!!!!
Spain had a very bad match...Ireland was unlucky in the penalties...
Tomorrow's main event:
USA SPORTS TEAM 94 (Lucky, Heavy D!, Brian) VS ART OF FIGHTING TEAM 94 (Ryo, Robert, Takuma)!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will Kyoryugen Karate rule??????
Oh! Ryuko sweeps the Sports team! Takuma will take every Sports member back to school!
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| DKW
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| "Yow." , posted Tue 18 Jun 11:19
No one else seems to want to say this, so I will. Italy '02 has got to be the most egregiously robbed World Cup team ever. Good lord, at least a dozen absolutley horrible calls that went against them (and they beat Croatia!!). I don't know what the hell the deal was, but unless this gets settled, I swear I'm never watching another World Cup again.
Extremely impressed by how the American contingent has done so far. It doesn't matter if they get blown out by Germany, they've had a tremendous run. Which is good, because that's what's likely to happen. Let's not kid ourselves; the Germans are better, always have been, and they've had our number since eternity. Probably America's best chance is to get on the board early, put them off their game a bit, and then clamp down hard. No way is anyone going to blank Deutschland for 90 minutes without a legitimate offensive threat.
Okay! Haven't a clue what's going to happen next! Just gotta watch and see.
Tracking my previous predictions: Germany won, although it was far from a romp. Brazil had an easier time. Team USA gave me the pleasant surprise of the year. Italy-Korea was a blatant fix, so that one doesn't count.
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| Time Mage 629th Post
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| "My "prediction"" , posted Wed 19 Jun 01:16
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No one else seems to want to say this, so I will. Italy '02 has got to be the most egregiously robbed World Cup team ever. Good lord, at least a dozen absolutley horrible calls that went against them (and they beat Croatia!!). I don't know what the hell the deal was, but unless this gets settled, I swear I'm never watching another World Cup again.
Extremely impressed by how the American contingent has done so far. It doesn't matter if they get blown out by Germany, they've had a tremendous run. Which is good, because that's what's likely to happen. Let's not kid ourselves; the Germans are better, always have been, and they've had our number since eternity. Probably America's best chance is to get on the board early, put them off their game a bit, and then clamp down hard. No way is anyone going to blank Deutschland for 90 minutes without a legitimate offensive threat.
Okay! Haven't a clue what's going to happen next! Just gotta watch and see.
Tracking my previous predictions: Germany won, although it was far from a romp. Brazil had an easier time. Team USA gave me the pleasant surprise of the year. Italy-Korea was a blatant fix, so that one doesn't count.
Heh. Due to this being the World Cup of Surprises, here's my bizarre prediction of what's going to happen:
Quarterfinals:
-US defeats Germany
-Korea defeats Spain
-Brazil defeats England
-Turkey defeats Senegal
Semifinals:
-Korea defeats US
-Turkey defeats Brazil
The great final!!!!
Korea vs Turkey... everyone expectes Korea wins, because they're the home team, right? No! Turkey World Champion!!!
Of course I don't think this is going to happen, but some of this results wouldn't be strange.
And I think (or hope, I'm not sure) that Spain is going to win against Korea (13 team members: the normal 11 players, the public, and the referee)
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| Time Mage 634th Post
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| "Re(2):Was the referee being fair?" , posted Thu 20 Jun 12:31
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My friends complained that the referee had made unnecessary calls to the Italian side and they feel that he is obviously more bias towards the Italian players. Do the guys here feel the same as well?
that's what dkw was sayinG. apparently pro watchers i was sitting with said there were some faulty calls, and korea did get a lot of chances, but they never capitalized, so it only affected italy's momentum drive at besT. on the other hand, there was the italian who held his face when the guy elbowed him in the chest, and the other one who held his crotch when the korean guy tapped the BACK of his leg. who was playing who up, eh?
Sadly, that's common in football. It looks that one of the subjects while training is theater, you just have to see Rivaldo against Turkey.
The referee was obviously on Korea's side, but I have to say that the penalty and the red card were totally correct. The bias was more on the offsides. If the referee didn't call offside in the goal in the extra time, Italy would have won.
This said, I must admit that Korea deserved to win, because Italy held back in the very moment they scored, and that's ugly to see in a match. Korean team had always the initiative.
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| whitesword 893th Post
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| "Re(3):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 07:13
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Funny how it "conveniently" the ball hit the hand of someone on the opposite team standing behind the goalkeeper(not to mention the ball going over his head) with his hand halfway on the line!
First of all, there's a HUGE difference between hand and upper arm, second of all, it's fairly common for defending players to be in that position near the post, unfortunately, being in that position forced the player's upper arm to come into contact with the ball, third of all, the player's arm was halfway behind the line because he was moving it away from the ball, and btw, because of that, the ball can't be considered to have crossed the line because the ball was to fully cross the line before being considered a goal, and finally, like I said before, because the player's arm was so close to his body, it is considered part of it, and because of that it does not count as handling...
Now if his hand was extended (like a certain US defender in the match against Mexico) it would have been considered handling.
Burn baby! Burn!
The Burning Fist...returns!
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| Shin ATproof 667th Post
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| "Re(4):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 07:24:
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Funny how it "conveniently" the ball hit the hand of someone on the opposite team standing behind the goalkeeper(not to mention the ball going over his head) with his hand halfway on the line!
First of all, there's a HUGE difference between hand and upper arm, second of all, it's fairly common for defending players to be in that position near the post, unfortunately, being in that position forced the player's upper arm to come into contact with the ball, third of all, the player's arm was halfway behind the line because he was moving it away from the ball, and btw, because of that, the ball can't be considered to have crossed the line because the ball was to fully cross the line before being considered a goal, and finally, like I said before, because the player's arm was so close to his body, it is considered part of it, and because of that it does not count as handling...
Now if his hand was extended (like a certain US defender in the match against Mexico) it would have been considered handling.
Oh so he was "moving" his hand out of the way...so that's what we call blocking the ball illegally these days. Okay then...glad we got that cleared up. LOL.
Let's realize that mans arm was not close to his body and a LARGE portion of the ball WAS inside and it would have been completely inside the only problem is that DAMN HAND! It makes sense as to why the US would argue "the ball was in" rather than "the ball was blocked illegally" But wait it was an "accident" it was "the ball playing the man" all cutesy excuses for a VERY questionable call! Unintentional? I disagree It looks more intentional than a genuine accident. No bloody way anyone can positively say it was unintentional given that it looks more like a blatant use of the hand more than anything given the evidence and circumstance!
Edit:Also I seem to recall the rules stating(at least when I played Soccer) that even if handling the ball in the course of kick to the goal is unintentional there is to be a freekick...if it's intentional there is a yellow card and a freekick. Does this not apply to World Cup games?
But regardless if it was intentional or unintentional...the ball would have gone in and the game would have probably been tied.
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| whitesword 894th Post
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| "Re(5):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 07:29
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Funny how it "conveniently" the ball hit the hand of someone on the opposite team standing behind the goalkeeper(not to mention the ball going over his head) with his hand halfway on the line!
First of all, there's a HUGE difference between hand and upper arm, second of all, it's fairly common for defending players to be in that position near the post, unfortunately, being in that position forced the player's upper arm to come into contact with the ball, third of all, the player's arm was halfway behind the line because he was moving it away from the ball, and btw, because of that, the ball can't be considered to have crossed the line because the ball was to fully cross the line before being considered a goal, and finally, like I said before, because the player's arm was so close to his body, it is considered part of it, and because of that it does not count as handling...
Now if his hand was extended (like a certain US defender in the match against Mexico) it would have been considered handling.
Oh so he was "moving" his hand out of the way...so that's what we call blocking the ball illegally these days. Okay then...glad we got that cleared up. LOL.
Let's realize that mans arm was not close to his body and a LARGE portion of the ball WAS inside and it would have been completely inside the only problem is that DAMN HAND! It makes sense as to why the US would argue "the ball was in" rather than "the ball was blocked illegally" But wait it was an "accident" it was "the ball playing the man" all cutesy excuses for a VERY questionable call! Unintentional? I disagree It looks more intentional than a genuine accident. No bloody way anyone can positively say it was unintentional given that it looks more like a blatant use of the hand more than anything given the evidence and circumstance!
Eh, believe what you will, but Germany won deservingly even though the US were surprisingly not crappy.
And remember, it's upper arm, and it's right next to the body, and the player was not in a position to either try to stop the ball or move away from it.
Burn baby! Burn!
The Burning Fist...returns!
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| Time Mage 638th Post
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| "Re(7):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 13:09
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Eh, believe what you will, but Germany won deservingly even though the US were surprisingly not crappy.
And remember, it's upper arm, and it's right next to the body, and the player was not in a position to either try to stop the ball or move away from it.
I disagree with Germany deservingly winning. Another reason besides THE questionable call of the game? I KNOW I'm not the only one who saw Germany players taking a swan dive constantly.
I have to agree with Shin.
First, the US team played quite well, and created many oportunities.
Second, that was handball. No doubt. It wasn't intentional, but:
a) The arm was separated enough from the body to not count as a part of it.
b) The ball touched the arm in a part that is considered to be handball. (Sorry if I express myself badly, but I'm accostumed to talk about football in spanish not in english)
c) The most important thing: The ball was blocked by the arm. If there weren't no arm there, that would have been goal.
Taking apart that incident, it's true that the US did very good, but don't be fooled, this way is how Germany wins. No spectacle, looks like they don't play well, but win. And that's the important thing. Germany is effective. Boring, plain, but effective. Think of Sagat in CvS2  .
Of course, it helps a lot to have the best goalkeeper of the world. Damn, Kahn played a impressive match!! If Spain defeats Korea (and I think they will), the "duel" (they don't confront directly) Kahn vs Casillas, aka the two best goalkeepers of the world front to front, will be great.
I'll finish this post with one famous phrase from Gary Lineker (great 80's England player):
"football is a game in which they play 11 vs 11, and in which nearly always Germany wins"
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| Time Mage 642th Post
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| "Spain 3-Korea 0" , posted Sat 22 Jun 05:47
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Korea makes it to the semi-final! What a shocker!
Well a few things to say:
First, Spain scored THREE legal goals. Three. One in the 2nd part, in a foul. The referee said there was a foul from Helguera, but REALLY, I don't see anything. Also, In the extra time, Spains scored TWO Golden Goals. Jeez, It's the only team that scores two golden goals and still looses... Agh.
In the first Golden Goal, Joaquin centered from the edge of the field, and there was no goal kick!! It's the same issue as the action in the US vs Germany match: The ball has to pass COMPLETELY the line to be goal kick, and this one only barely touched the line... I'm so angry!!
OK, the second Golden Goal: This one is clear as water, ball centered to Morientes, he scores, then the (absolutely pro-Korea) linemen says it's offside. Oh, yeah, go and watch the replay...
But it's not only that, Spain OWNED Korea from the minute 15 of the first part to the end of the extra time, and Korea was helpless. Helpless? No! They had their dear linemen and (partially) the referee.
So, to sum up, Spain owned Korea, and the 3 referees owned Spain. End of Story.
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| Time Mage 643th Post
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| "Go Germany! Go Brazil!" , posted Sat 22 Jun 05:53
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But I have to admit, the linesmen screwed up here as well...oh well, it's not like Korea's gonna beat Germany anyway!
*just remembered how many upsets were in this World Cup*
eep!
Eh, at any rate, tough luck Time Mage, and...Senegal takes on Turkey in two hours!
From now on, I'm with Germany, except if they meet Brazil in the final (hopefully that's going to be the final), in which case I'll be with Brazil then.
And, for the Germany vs Korea... well... GOOD luck. You'll need it. Let's hope that Germany scores at least 5 goals, so that at least 1 of them is considered legal...
Germany should have no problem to mantain their goal untresspassed, but the difficulty is going to come in scoring. Precisely, in scoring "legally". Good luck for that.
Of course, in normal conditions Germany should eat Korea, but...
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| jAy-kEi
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| "Re(1):Spain 3-Korea 0" , posted Sat 22 Jun 05:56
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Well a few things to say:
First, Spain scored THREE legal goals. Three. One in the 2nd part, in a foul. The referee said there was a foul from Helguera, but REALLY, I don't see anything. Also, In the extra time, Spains scored TWO Golden Goals. Jeez, It's the only team that scores two golden goals and still looses... Agh.
In the first Golden Goal, Joaquin centered from the edge of the field, and there was no goal kick!! It's the same issue as the action in the US vs Germany match: The ball has to pass COMPLETELY the line to be goal kick, and this one only barely touched the line... I'm so angry!!
OK, the second Golden Goal: This one is clear as water, ball centered to Morientes, he scores, then the (absolutely pro-Korea) linemen says it's offside. Oh, yeah, go and watch the replay...
But it's not only that, Spain OWNED Korea from the minute 15 of the first part to the end of the extra time, and Korea was helpless. Helpless? No! They had their dear linemen and (partially) the referee.
So, to sum up, Spain owned Korea, and the 3 referees owned Spain. End of Story.
Bullshit, you must be from Spain?
I live here in Europe, and I heard the neutral analysis, you cant say the referee and linesmen were pro-korea. The haters just cant see, the underdog just passed the last 8.
They owned korea, perhaps, but they didnt have the luck or the technique to get the ball behind the keeper in the eyes of the referee, and that's wat matters in the game. And if you say that there's a complot, please think first before you react.
And in the penalty shootout, I would say we had more luck then you, when you guys had more luck against Ireland.
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| jAy-kEi
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| "Re(1):Go Germany! Go Brazil!" , posted Sat 22 Jun 05:58
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But I have to admit, the linesmen screwed up here as well...oh well, it's not like Korea's gonna beat Germany anyway!
*just remembered how many upsets were in this World Cup*
eep!
Eh, at any rate, tough luck Time Mage, and...Senegal takes on Turkey in two hours!
From now on, I'm with Germany, except if they meet Brazil in the final (hopefully that's going to be the final), in which case I'll be with Brazil then.
And, for the Germany vs Korea... well... GOOD luck. You'll need it. Let's hope that Germany scores at least 5 goals, so that at least 1 of them is considered legal...
Germany should have no problem to mantain their goal untresspassed, but the difficulty is going to come in scoring. Precisely, in scoring "legally". Good luck for that.
Of course, in normal conditions Germany should eat Korea, but...
LoL Look at you,
you blame Korea for these mistakes by what the referees or the linesmen did. It's a shame you know that? Really pathetic, as I said, think first before you STILL react stupid.
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| DKW
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| "Re(1):My views..." , posted Sat 22 Jun 11:43
Man, this is getting downright insane. This isn't doing a thing to improve the popularity of soccer stateside.
I understand that officials are only human. That does not excuse outright incompetence or, even worse, favoritism. In just about every American league you can name, if you screw up repeatedly, you don't keep your job. Period. Just ONE lousy call in a big game is sometimes enough to send an ref packing.
Furthermore, the league itself has a responsibility to make the officials' jobs as smooth as possible. Grumble about instant replay in the NFL all you want, but it has been a tremendous boon, not only reversing bad calls but making it a lot easier to make critical calls in the first place. Additionally, football, which has a smaller field and the same number of players as soccer, has a total of seven officials. If soccer can't have a fair game with three, I see no problem with, say, another referee.
It's easy to denounce "whining" when your team is getting all the breaks. But routine horrible calls don't make for a good sport.
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| Taa kun
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| "Re(2):My views..." , posted Sat 22 Jun 12:29
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Additionally, football, which has a smaller field and the same number of players as soccer, has a total of seven officials. If soccer can't have a fair game with three, I see no problem with, say, another referee.
I think too that soccer should have more refrees, and I'm for the use of "video".
For soccer you have 3 refrees for a large field and 22 players...
What about tennis, for 2 players, you have a least 12 refrees... (no, I don't say that I want 132 refrees for a soccer match...)
Tsukurimashou... Tsukurimashou...
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| Time Mage 645th Post
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| "OK, OK..." , posted Sat 22 Jun 13:20
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LoL Look at you,
you blame Korea for these mistakes by what the referees or the linesmen did. It's a shame you know that? Really pathetic, as I said, think first before you STILL react stupid.
OK, I have to apologize here. I really don't have anything against the Korean team, nor the Koreans. My only blames goes to the referees, exactly to the linesmen. If I said that was because of my not-yet-tempered anger. So, sorry if I bothered you.
I still think that Spain were superior and would have won if the referees (first and linesmen) would have done their job better, but I have to recognize that the effort made by the Korean team was very impressive. They run and run and don't get tired ever and they follow very good the instructions of their (GREAT) coach, Guss Hiddink. They still lack talent and inventive, but have potential, no doubt.
So... Peace? ^_^
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| TheBeast 519th Post
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| "Re(2):My views..." , posted Sat 22 Jun 20:40
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Man, this is getting downright insane. This isn't doing a thing to improve the popularity of soccer stateside.
I understand that officials are only human. That does not excuse outright incompetence or, even worse, favoritism. In just about every American league you can name, if you screw up repeatedly, you don't keep your job. Period. Just ONE lousy call in a big game is sometimes enough to send an ref packing.
Furthermore, the league itself has a responsibility to make the officials' jobs as smooth as possible. Grumble about instant replay in the NFL all you want, but it has been a tremendous boon, not only reversing bad calls but making it a lot easier to make critical calls in the first place. Additionally, football, which has a smaller field and the same number of players as soccer, has a total of seven officials. If soccer can't have a fair game with three, I see no problem with, say, another referee.
It's easy to denounce "whining" when your team is getting all the breaks. But routine horrible calls don't make for a good sport.
I am sure FIFA is doing everything it can do ensure that its referees are fair and all, by having referees of different nationalties, though I don't rule out the possibilities of bribery in games. But from the way I look at it, they do not make "routine horrible calls" like you said. They made some mistakes that upset the team that is in a disadvantage and thus making them lose the game. But like I said, referees can't see what is going on all the time from their angles, and they are constantly being pressurized. They do not get praised from the 998 correct judgements they made, but the hurdes of abuses from the 2 incorrect ones. So I am in for more referees in soccer matches, just to slam the notion that a weak team cannot win a strong one fair and square.
But this is life, man. Sometimes you just happen to take the shit from unfairness and all that is not within your control. We will just have to live with it. You can take matters into your own hands within your limit (assination, hurl abuses, firing players from clubs) but this just reflect on how you are able to take the harsh realities of life. Peace...^_^
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| Zyzyfer 464th Post
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|  "Re(4):Go Germany! Go Brazil!"
, posted Sat 22 Jun 22:08
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If I were Korean, I wouldn't be ashamed of my team, basically because I would not know the rules very good, so the noticeable thing would have been that my team won.
i'm nitpicking, but i don't think koreans are clueless about the rules. just the teachers at my school~
hmm, i heard from most of the people i watched the game with that the calls were overall pretty good for that game. regardless, what's done is done and if korea loses out due to bad refereeing i'm sure the world will light up and say "in your face korea!" i'm actually surprised with shinatproof's voraciousness in attacking that handball call...yea, it was a dodgy incident, but the us also missed several other chances and even bruce arena admitted that that's why the us didn't win. it's silly to put all your soccer balls in one bag, or all your goal potential in one bad call.
and spain needed to lose anyways, because ireland had to exact their revenge!!!! hah!
아싸아아...월요일임니다! ???
합기도화이팅!!!
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| TheBeast 542th Post
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| "Re(4):Kahn, Kahn!!" , posted Tue 25 Jun 07:34
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Half time and I came in to bug you all! (I haven't posted in a while)
I'm sorry but Kahn just pulled off a great save in this first half. ^_^ He was good during the Bayern Munich games and he just kicks ass here at the cup
Go Germany!
*edit* Final
1-0 germany, tho Korea played a good game.
Kahn's the man! But Michael "Little Kaiser" Ballack was also impressive as usual...I recommend turning him into a libero for 2006!
I actually missed the first half (spoony backfiring sleep spells..) but oh well, I saw Ballack's goal, and that's all that matters!
But seriously, am I the only one who wants Frings out of Germany's starting line up!? Sure he's a good defending midfielder, but he always messes up on the attack and stirs unnecessary trouble and...hey, didn't Ballack get a yellow card!? eep! It's his second!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! He's not gonna play in the final! Spoonies!
*mentally projects the image of Jeremies and NOT Ziege in Voeller's head*
Personally I think Kahn was great. He performed his role as a goalkeeper with composure and confidence.
Ahhh the end of Korean dream, but way to go Koreans, you guys were great nevertheless!
KAISER WAVE! *plays Dies Irae as his background music*
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| DKW
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| "one down" , posted Tue 25 Jun 14:36
Reality catches up to the, *cough*, "home field advantage" (cough, blargh, cough). Can't say I was really surprised at the result. Germany always plays tough, and the Korean side just never capitalized on their advantages. While I don't wish ill on anyone, I'm kinda relieved that they're not going to the final.
So that leaves Brazil-Turkey. The smart money is on the South American powerhouse, and don't let anyone try to convince you differently. I bet most American fans don't even know how the other team got there.
Right now, Brazil is the clear favorite. If they lose, Germany becomes the favorite, and will most likely win with a "Golden Goal", 1-0, for the championship, but it's a helluva tall order for such an undistinguished unit. If it's Brazil vs. Germany, which looks likely, it all comes down to who can get on the board first. The Brazilian strikers will attack, but that defense won't crack easily. The thing I'm praying absolutely doesn't happen no matter what is a penalty kick shootout to decide the championship. If Brazil wins a SECOND World Cup in that manner, I swear I'm giving up on this whole spectacle right then and there.
Footnote: Anyone else think the South Korean coach has got his work cut out for him motivating the team to win the 3rd place game, especially since they know they can't count on favorable officiating anymore?
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