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"The World Cup Thread - Part Two" , posted Sat 15 Jun 14:13post reply


OK, the first thread was too big, and charge time was longer also. So, here's the second part, which hopefully will see Spain's first triumph in the World Cup... OK, OK, stop dreaming.
As for now I'll be happy if tomorrow we defeat Ireland. Their air game will hurt Spain for sure, but I think Spain will win.






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"Re(1):The World Cup Thread - Part Two" , posted Sat 15 Jun 18:00post reply


quote:
OK, the first thread was too big, and charge time was longer also. So, here's the second part, which hopefully will see Spain's first triumph in the World Cup... OK, OK, stop dreaming.
As for now I'll be happy if tomorrow we defeat Ireland. Their air game will hurt Spain for sure, but I think Spain will win.



Hee hee. That's true.





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"Re(2):The World Cup Thread - Part Two" , posted Sat 15 Jun 19:45post reply


quote:
OK, the first thread was too big, and charge time was longer also. So, here's the second part, which hopefully will see Spain's first triumph in the World Cup... OK, OK, stop dreaming.
As for now I'll be happy if tomorrow we defeat Ireland. Their air game will hurt Spain for sure, but I think Spain will win.


Hee hee. That's true.



Checking results.

Germany 1, Paraguay 0

England 3, Denmark 0

Tomorrow:

Sweden vs. Senegal

Spain vs. Ireland





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"EX!" , posted Sun 16 Jun 01:15post reply


quote:
Sweden vs. Senegal



After (slightly more than) 90 minutes, Senegal and Sweden are tied 1-1, and now it's EXtra time! Woohoo!

Let's hope we get a golden goal...no body likes penalty shoot-outs!





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"Pure gold!" , posted Sun 16 Jun 01:34post reply


Ooooooh, Senegal wins with a Golden Goal! Personally, I think either team deserved to win!

Ugh, I doubt I'd be able to stay awake until Spain & Irland's match...spoonies





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"Re(1):Pure gold!" , posted Sun 16 Jun 01:53post reply


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Ooooooh, Senegal wins with a Golden Goal! Personally, I think either team deserved to win!

Ugh, I doubt I'd be able to stay awake until Spain & Irland's match...spoonies



You'll better be awake!!! You have to see Spain's power!!





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"Spain and the luck." , posted Sun 16 Jun 07:38post reply


quote:

You'll better be awake!!! You have to see Spain's power!!


Forget this ...

AAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Spain 1 - Ireland 1 (3 - 2 in the penalties)

Hmmm... Spain has played the worst match in many, many, many years. Spain was lucky and Ireland didn't play very good, too. If not, Spain wouldn't be there.

Now, let's forget this pathetic match and let's hope for the best against (supposedly) Italy.



One more thing: Saint Iker Casillas!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The best goalkeeper. Ever.





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"Re(1):Spain and the luck." , posted Sun 16 Jun 08:30post reply


quote:

You'll better be awake!!! You have to see Spain's power!!

Forget this ...

AAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Spain 1 - Ireland 1 (3 - 2 in the penalties)

Hmmm... Spain has played the worst match in many, many, many years. Spain was lucky and Ireland didn't play very good, too. If not, Spain wouldn't be there.

Now, let's forget this pathetic match and let's hope for the best against (supposedly) Italy.



One more thing: Saint Iker Casillas!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The best goalkeeper. Ever.



AGREED!!!!!!!
Spain had a very bad match...Ireland was unlucky in the penalties...

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USA SPORTS TEAM 94 (Lucky, Heavy D!, Brian) VS ART OF FIGHTING TEAM 94 (Ryo, Robert, Takuma)!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will Kyoryugen Karate rule??????





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"Re(2):Spain and the luck." , posted Sun 16 Jun 08:34post reply


quote:

You'll better be awake!!! You have to see Spain's power!!

Forget this ...

AAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Spain 1 - Ireland 1 (3 - 2 in the penalties)

Hmmm... Spain has played the worst match in many, many, many years. Spain was lucky and Ireland didn't play very good, too. If not, Spain wouldn't be there.

Now, let's forget this pathetic match and let's hope for the best against (supposedly) Italy.



One more thing: Saint Iker Casillas!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The best goalkeeper. Ever.


AGREED!!!!!!!
Spain had a very bad match...Ireland was unlucky in the penalties...

Tomorrow's main event:

USA SPORTS TEAM 94 (Lucky, Heavy D!, Brian) VS ART OF FIGHTING TEAM 94 (Ryo, Robert, Takuma)!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will Kyoryugen Karate rule??????



Oh! Ryuko sweeps the Sports team! Takuma will take every Sports member back to school!





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"Re(1):Spain and the luck." , posted Sun 16 Jun 09:28post reply


quote:

Spain 1 - Ireland 1 (3 - 2 in the penalties)

Hmmm... Spain has played the worst match in many, many, many years. Spain was lucky and Ireland didn't play very good, too. If not, Spain wouldn't be there.

Now, let's forget this pathetic match and let's hope for the best against (supposedly) Italy.



And don't forget, if you beat Italy, you'll have Germany to deal with (if they beat the US/Mexico...heh heh)





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"Re(2):Spain and the luck." , posted Sun 16 Jun 20:48post reply


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And don't forget, if you beat Italy, you'll have Germany to deal with (if they beat the US/Mexico...heh heh)



who said italy was gonna beat korea? home team advantage~





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"Re(3):Spain and the luck." , posted Sun 16 Jun 21:34post reply


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And don't forget, if you beat Italy, you'll have Germany to deal with (if they beat the US/Mexico...heh heh)


who said italy was gonna beat korea? home team advantage~



Heh, I know, but I'm really hoping Italy would win, I'd love to see Germany vs Italy in the semi-final!

Well, it won't be long until the US vs Mexico match starts, I'm gonna go play a little Plasma Sword until then!





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"Re(4):Spain and the luck." , posted Mon 17 Jun 02:40post reply


Mexico 0 - USA 2

I won't say I'm surprised to see USA win, but I'm surprised to see them win so easily.

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Heh, I know, but I'm really hoping Italy would win, I'd love to see Germany vs Italy in the semi-final!


I'm sorry, but most likely you'll see a Germany vs Spain semifinal!
We are gonna take revenge for the USA'94 quarterfinals elimination!!

(Hopefully Raul will be able to play the quarterfinals, he was injuried yesterday... yuck)





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"Kyoryugen karate lost!" , posted Mon 17 Jun 03:40post reply


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Mexico 0 - USA 2




Kyoryugen karate...LOST?? ARGH! What ever happened to the invincible dragon and raging tiger??

94 Sports Team advance to the semi-finals...

Tomorrow's main event:
FATAL FURY TEAM 94 (Terry, Andy, Joe) VS KIM'S TEAM 94 (Kim, Chang, Choi)!!!

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"holy crap!" , posted Mon 17 Jun 04:23post reply


yes, yes... I've been offline all weekend.

However I stayed up for the US game. Mexico was putting up a good fight, but the US was just kick'n butt ^_^

Spain's Game this weekend was just out of this world (I'm saving that one on tape!)





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"I'm as surprised as you are!!!" , posted Mon 17 Jun 06:07post reply


quote:
yes, yes... I've been offline all weekend.

However I stayed up for the US game. Mexico was putting up a good fight, but the US was just kick'n butt ^_^

Spain's Game this weekend was just out of this world (I'm saving that one on tape!)



I saw the finale for the Spain game. Incredible. And after reading the results of the US vs Mexico game, I AM SHOCKED! Its good to see the US advancing, and not being eliminated so early in the tournament. Do they have what it takes to win the cup? Probably not. The chances are against them, since they take on Germany next. But still, it has been a good weekend in soccer. US and Spain advance, two of the teams I am rooting for.





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"Re(5):Spain and the luck." , posted Mon 17 Jun 08:00post reply


quote:
Mexico 0 - USA 2



Ha ha ha ha ha!! Yes!!!





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"Re(6):Spain and the luck." , posted Mon 17 Jun 13:44post reply


quote:
Mexico 0 - USA 2


Ha ha ha ha ha!! Yes!!!



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"Re(7):Spain and the luck." , posted Mon 17 Jun 13:54:post reply


España! BOOOOO!!!

:D

Por cierto, mencione que soy Irlandes? ho ho ho

quote:
Mexico 0 - USA 2


Ha ha ha ha ha!! Yes!!!


Realmente me encanta el fervor con el que Rid y tú apoyais a vuestras selecciones... Se nota que os gusta el fútbol!!







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"Re(8):Spain and the luck." , posted Mon 17 Jun 13:58post reply


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España! BOOOOO!!!

:D

Mexico 0 - USA 2


Ha ha ha ha ha!! Yes!!!


Realmente me encanta el fervor con el que Rid y tú apoyais a vuestras selecciones... Se nota que os gusta el fútbol!!




México! BAAAAHH!! :D~





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"Re(8):Spain and the luck." , posted Mon 17 Jun 14:03post reply


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España! BOOOOO!!!

:D

Por cierto, mencione que soy Irlandes? ho ho ho

Juro que a veces no se si hablas en serio o en broma... Irlandés??? (nah...)





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"Re(9):Spain and the luck." , posted Mon 17 Jun 14:33post reply


Oi! deveras me visto de verde y guardo dinero en una olla negra! Y bailo muy bien!

....har har

Saliendo de el misterio de mi nacionalidad, y de vuelta a futbol, esto es ridiculo que Mexico aya perdido. Es como si EEUU hubiera perdido en fut americano...aunque algo parecido paso hace algunos an~os cuando la liga infantil de beisbol Mexicana le dio una paliza a la liga infantil Americana.

:D


quote:
España! BOOOOO!!!

:D

Por cierto, mencione que soy Irlandes? ho ho ho
Juro que a veces no se si hablas en serio o en broma... Irlandés??? (nah...)







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"Re(7):Spain and the luck." , posted Mon 17 Jun 19:32post reply


quote:

Realmente me encanta el fervor con el que Rid y tú apoyais a vuestras selecciones... Se nota que os gusta el fútbol!!



he he he he, los miserables me hicieron perder una apuesta... si ya iban a perder, que les costaba hacerme ganar un buen dinero?? en fin, EUA me vengo! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!





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"Re(8):Spain and the luck." , posted Mon 17 Jun 19:48post reply


ALRIGHT PEOPLE! BACK TO ENGLISH OR I GET ANGRY!


Ahem, so anyway...Germany's gonna destroy the US! Woohoo!





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"Re(9):Spain and the luck." , posted Mon 17 Jun 19:52post reply


fÚtbol spoony bard! ha ha!

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"72 years" , posted Mon 17 Jun 21:54post reply


I heard it has been 72 years since USA has made it this far in the World Cup. Unreal!

USA USA USA! GO GO GO!





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"Re(9):Spain and the luck." , posted Mon 17 Jun 22:50post reply


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ALRIGHT PEOPLE! BACK TO ENGLISH OR I GET ANGRY!



BABELFISH SPOONY BARD!!!





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"Japan loses to Turk 1-0" , posted Tue 18 Jun 01:48post reply


quote:
ALRIGHT PEOPLE! BACK TO ENGLISH OR I GET ANGRY!


BABELFISH SPOONY BARD!!!



Not that anyone cares, as no one on this board seems to be cheering Japan, but Japan just lost 1-0 to Turkish.

Oh, well, it was a good dream. It's a miracle they made it this far anyway.
Hopefully, they'll do even better 4 years from now.

Next up is Korea vs Italy. Hopefully Korea, the only surviving asian team, will do better.





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"Re(1):Japan loses to Turk 1-0" , posted Tue 18 Jun 02:18post reply


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Next up is Korea vs Italy. Hopefully Korea, the only surviving asian team, will do better.



I'm happy for Turkey, they have a better team.

And speaking of Korea, they have little possibilities against Italy, but who knows? Maybe Korea makes a surprise.





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"Re(2):Japan loses to Turk 1-0" , posted Tue 18 Jun 04:12post reply


I have to say that I was impressed by both teams making it this far. But the overall game play was on Turkey's side.

Italy and Korea, should be a good match up. Tho the favorite is in this match is Italy I think the Koreans will give them a hard time, and justly because they've been playing really good. We'll see... ^_^





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"KOREA WINS !!!!!!" , posted Tue 18 Jun 06:45:post reply


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I have to say that I was impressed by both teams making it this far. But the overall game play was on Turkey's side.

Italy and Korea, should be a good match up. Tho the favorite is in this match is Italy I think the Koreans will give them a hard time, and justly because they've been playing really good. We'll see... ^_^



Korea wins ! 2-1 against Italy.
in extra time.
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"Kim Kaph Hwan won!" , posted Tue 18 Jun 06:48post reply


Beautiful Phoenix kick in the extra time!

Korea 2:1 Italy

The Fatal Fury Team lost!!! Argh another upset!!





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"Spain vs Korea... fight!" , posted Tue 18 Jun 06:51post reply


quote:

Korea wins ! 2-1 against Italy.
in extra time.
GO KOREA !!! \(^o^)/



Spain vs Korea!! I never thought I was going to say this... But Korea deserved to win!
Italy scored early, and they applied the "catenaccio" or what is the same, armor mode. Ultra defense and counterattack, but finally Korea broke the defense. If you think it, is the same as the match vs Croatia. They scored and held back. Then, lost. Bye bye! ^_^





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"good lord ..what a game!" , posted Tue 18 Jun 06:52post reply


OMG! Korea saved their asses and then came back for the killing, all the way in extra time. Italy got to relaxed in that last half and now they got what was coming.


what a great game!





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"Re(1):good lord ..what a game!" , posted Tue 18 Jun 10:33post reply


*sniff sniff*

Good bye Maldini...

*sniff*




But at least I still have Germany!





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"Yow." , posted Tue 18 Jun 11:19post reply


No one else seems to want to say this, so I will. Italy '02 has got to be the most egregiously robbed World Cup team ever. Good lord, at least a dozen absolutley horrible calls that went against them (and they beat Croatia!!). I don't know what the hell the deal was, but unless this gets settled, I swear I'm never watching another World Cup again.

Extremely impressed by how the American contingent has done so far. It doesn't matter if they get blown out by Germany, they've had a tremendous run. Which is good, because that's what's likely to happen. Let's not kid ourselves; the Germans are better, always have been, and they've had our number since eternity. Probably America's best chance is to get on the board early, put them off their game a bit, and then clamp down hard. No way is anyone going to blank Deutschland for 90 minutes without a legitimate offensive threat.

Okay! Haven't a clue what's going to happen next! Just gotta watch and see.

Tracking my previous predictions: Germany won, although it was far from a romp. Brazil had an easier time. Team USA gave me the pleasant surprise of the year. Italy-Korea was a blatant fix, so that one doesn't count.





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"Re(1):Yow." , posted Tue 18 Jun 18:29post reply


quote:
No one else seems to want to say this, so I will. Italy '02 has got to be the most egregiously robbed World Cup team ever. Good lord, at least a dozen absolutley horrible calls that went against them (and they beat Croatia!!.


yea but look at how korea actually managed to capitalize on those calls. they didn't. except for the one red card. every other chance from calls was blown.

it's home team advantage, what else would ya expect to happen?





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"My "prediction"" , posted Wed 19 Jun 01:16post reply


quote:
No one else seems to want to say this, so I will. Italy '02 has got to be the most egregiously robbed World Cup team ever. Good lord, at least a dozen absolutley horrible calls that went against them (and they beat Croatia!!). I don't know what the hell the deal was, but unless this gets settled, I swear I'm never watching another World Cup again.

Extremely impressed by how the American contingent has done so far. It doesn't matter if they get blown out by Germany, they've had a tremendous run. Which is good, because that's what's likely to happen. Let's not kid ourselves; the Germans are better, always have been, and they've had our number since eternity. Probably America's best chance is to get on the board early, put them off their game a bit, and then clamp down hard. No way is anyone going to blank Deutschland for 90 minutes without a legitimate offensive threat.

Okay! Haven't a clue what's going to happen next! Just gotta watch and see.

Tracking my previous predictions: Germany won, although it was far from a romp. Brazil had an easier time. Team USA gave me the pleasant surprise of the year. Italy-Korea was a blatant fix, so that one doesn't count.



Heh. Due to this being the World Cup of Surprises, here's my bizarre prediction of what's going to happen:

Quarterfinals:
-US defeats Germany
-Korea defeats Spain

-Brazil defeats England
-Turkey defeats Senegal

Semifinals:
-Korea defeats US
-Turkey defeats Brazil

The great final!!!!
Korea vs Turkey... everyone expectes Korea wins, because they're the home team, right? No! Turkey World Champion!!!



Of course I don't think this is going to happen, but some of this results wouldn't be strange.
And I think (or hope, I'm not sure) that Spain is going to win against Korea (13 team members: the normal 11 players, the public, and the referee)





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"Re(1):My" , posted Wed 19 Jun 01:30post reply


quote:
And I think (or hope, I'm not sure) that Spain is going to win against Korea (13 team members: the normal 11 players, the public, and the referee)



The refree... be careful, I had similar predictions for Denmark France...

At this time I wasn't trying to depreciate the Spain team, who fits the stage of competition she reach(ed).





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"Re(2):My" , posted Wed 19 Jun 03:11post reply


heh, yea, i'd really like to see a korea/us rematch, where one side is required to win. at first my students want to cheer for germany to win, but then i show them who their next opponent would be, and then they go "woo usa!"





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"Re(3): Ack!" , posted Wed 19 Jun 04:38post reply


heh, yes I think a rematch with Korea would be great. However the next US game is up in the air, they have a 50 - 50 chance of winning over Germany.
It should be a good match no matter what, oh and don't count out Spain just yet. They may have time to recover still...

quote:
heh, yea, i'd really like to see a korea/us rematch, where one side is required to win. at first my students want to cheer for germany to win, but then i show them who their next opponent would be, and then they go "woo usa!"







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"Was the referee being fair?" , posted Wed 19 Jun 06:31post reply


My friends complained that the referee had made unnecessary calls to the Italian side and they feel that he is obviously more bias towards the Italian players. Do the guys here feel the same as well?





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"Re(1):Was the referee being fair?" , posted Wed 19 Jun 08:32post reply


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My friends complained that the referee had made unnecessary calls to the Italian side and they feel that he is obviously more bias towards the Italian players. Do the guys here feel the same as well?



that's what dkw was sayinG. apparently pro watchers i was sitting with said there were some faulty calls, and korea did get a lot of chances, but they never capitalized, so it only affected italy's momentum drive at besT. on the other hand, there was the italian who held his face when the guy elbowed him in the chest, and the other one who held his crotch when the korean guy tapped the BACK of his leg. who was playing who up, eh?





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"Re(2):Was the referee being fair?" , posted Thu 20 Jun 12:31post reply


quote:
My friends complained that the referee had made unnecessary calls to the Italian side and they feel that he is obviously more bias towards the Italian players. Do the guys here feel the same as well?


that's what dkw was sayinG. apparently pro watchers i was sitting with said there were some faulty calls, and korea did get a lot of chances, but they never capitalized, so it only affected italy's momentum drive at besT. on the other hand, there was the italian who held his face when the guy elbowed him in the chest, and the other one who held his crotch when the korean guy tapped the BACK of his leg. who was playing who up, eh?



Sadly, that's common in football. It looks that one of the subjects while training is theater, you just have to see Rivaldo against Turkey.
The referee was obviously on Korea's side, but I have to say that the penalty and the red card were totally correct. The bias was more on the offsides. If the referee didn't call offside in the goal in the extra time, Italy would have won.
This said, I must admit that Korea deserved to win, because Italy held back in the very moment they scored, and that's ugly to see in a match. Korean team had always the initiative.





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"210 minutes to go..." , posted Thu 20 Jun 19:49post reply


Until the England vs Brazil match starts, and a few hours after it Germany vs the soon-to-be-eliminated US!

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"Lesse..." , posted Thu 20 Jun 21:41post reply


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Until the England vs Brazil match starts, and a few hours after it Germany vs the soon-to-be-eliminated US!

Here's hoping Jeremies starts!



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England 1 - Brazil 1

Brazil wins on PK's 3-2.

Oh and I don't know why, but America will beat Germany 2-1.





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"Re(1):Lesse..." , posted Fri 21 Jun 01:14post reply


England 1 - Brazil 2...





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"HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 06:14post reply


US vs Germany should have at least been 1-1!!

That's all I gotta say.





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"Re(1):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 06:27post reply


quote:
US vs Germany should have at least been 1-1!!

That's all I gotta say.



On top of that Germany took so many dives that you think they were trying out for the Olympics or something!!!! CHIKUSHO!





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"Re(1):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 06:29:post reply


quote:
US vs Germany should have at least been 1-1!!

That's all I gotta say.



Heh, I don't think so. Because the player's arms were next to his body and he did not mean to touch the ball (he was trying to get away from it) it does not count as a handball, and even the US players realized that, so instead they tried to argue that the ball crossed the line.

Btw, I never realized Donovan was such a selfish player, the US would have done better without him.

Say, what's with the US players and shirt pulling?! Can't they even try to get the ball without ripping the shirt off a player's back?!





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"Re(2):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 06:55post reply


quote:
US vs Germany should have at least been 1-1!!

That's all I gotta say.


Heh, I don't think so. Because the player's arms were next to his body and he did not mean to touch the ball (he was trying to get away from it) it does not count as a handball, and even the US players realized that, so instead they tried to argue that the ball crossed the line.

Btw, I never realized Donovan was such a selfish player, the US would have done better without him.



Funny how it "conveniently" the ball hit the hand of someone on the opposite team standing behind the goalkeeper(not to mention the ball going over his head) with his hand halfway on the line!

Also I don't think it was US "agreeing" with the "accident" but they took the better choice of an argument.

Instead of saying "Handball" and chances are getting a free kick/penalty kick they instead went for "it was already in regardless" personally that is a choice I think ANYONE would have took....





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"Re(3):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 07:13post reply


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Funny how it "conveniently" the ball hit the hand of someone on the opposite team standing behind the goalkeeper(not to mention the ball going over his head) with his hand halfway on the line!



First of all, there's a HUGE difference between hand and upper arm, second of all, it's fairly common for defending players to be in that position near the post, unfortunately, being in that position forced the player's upper arm to come into contact with the ball, third of all, the player's arm was halfway behind the line because he was moving it away from the ball, and btw, because of that, the ball can't be considered to have crossed the line because the ball was to fully cross the line before being considered a goal, and finally, like I said before, because the player's arm was so close to his body, it is considered part of it, and because of that it does not count as handling...

Now if his hand was extended (like a certain US defender in the match against Mexico) it would have been considered handling.





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"Re(4):Paybacks!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 07:17post reply


do whatever it take to win.... damn germany. But the US played a good game! 2006 baby!





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"Re(4):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 07:24:post reply


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Funny how it "conveniently" the ball hit the hand of someone on the opposite team standing behind the goalkeeper(not to mention the ball going over his head) with his hand halfway on the line!


First of all, there's a HUGE difference between hand and upper arm, second of all, it's fairly common for defending players to be in that position near the post, unfortunately, being in that position forced the player's upper arm to come into contact with the ball, third of all, the player's arm was halfway behind the line because he was moving it away from the ball, and btw, because of that, the ball can't be considered to have crossed the line because the ball was to fully cross the line before being considered a goal, and finally, like I said before, because the player's arm was so close to his body, it is considered part of it, and because of that it does not count as handling...

Now if his hand was extended (like a certain US defender in the match against Mexico) it would have been considered handling.



Oh so he was "moving" his hand out of the way...so that's what we call blocking the ball illegally these days. Okay then...glad we got that cleared up. LOL.

Let's realize that mans arm was not close to his body and a LARGE portion of the ball WAS inside and it would have been completely inside the only problem is that DAMN HAND! It makes sense as to why the US would argue "the ball was in" rather than "the ball was blocked illegally" But wait it was an "accident" it was "the ball playing the man" all cutesy excuses for a VERY questionable call! Unintentional? I disagree It looks more intentional than a genuine accident. No bloody way anyone can positively say it was unintentional given that it looks more like a blatant use of the hand more than anything given the evidence and circumstance!

Edit:Also I seem to recall the rules stating(at least when I played Soccer) that even if handling the ball in the course of kick to the goal is unintentional there is to be a freekick...if it's intentional there is a yellow card and a freekick. Does this not apply to World Cup games?

But regardless if it was intentional or unintentional...the ball would have gone in and the game would have probably been tied.





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"Re(5):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 07:29post reply


quote:
Funny how it "conveniently" the ball hit the hand of someone on the opposite team standing behind the goalkeeper(not to mention the ball going over his head) with his hand halfway on the line!


First of all, there's a HUGE difference between hand and upper arm, second of all, it's fairly common for defending players to be in that position near the post, unfortunately, being in that position forced the player's upper arm to come into contact with the ball, third of all, the player's arm was halfway behind the line because he was moving it away from the ball, and btw, because of that, the ball can't be considered to have crossed the line because the ball was to fully cross the line before being considered a goal, and finally, like I said before, because the player's arm was so close to his body, it is considered part of it, and because of that it does not count as handling...

Now if his hand was extended (like a certain US defender in the match against Mexico) it would have been considered handling.


Oh so he was "moving" his hand out of the way...so that's what we call blocking the ball illegally these days. Okay then...glad we got that cleared up. LOL.

Let's realize that mans arm was not close to his body and a LARGE portion of the ball WAS inside and it would have been completely inside the only problem is that DAMN HAND! It makes sense as to why the US would argue "the ball was in" rather than "the ball was blocked illegally" But wait it was an "accident" it was "the ball playing the man" all cutesy excuses for a VERY questionable call! Unintentional? I disagree It looks more intentional than a genuine accident. No bloody way anyone can positively say it was unintentional given that it looks more like a blatant use of the hand more than anything given the evidence and circumstance!



Eh, believe what you will, but Germany won deservingly even though the US were surprisingly not crappy.

And remember, it's upper arm, and it's right next to the body, and the player was not in a position to either try to stop the ball or move away from it.





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"Re(6):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 07:34post reply


quote:

Eh, believe what you will, but Germany won deservingly even though the US were surprisingly not crappy.

And remember, it's upper arm, and it's right next to the body, and the player was not in a position to either try to stop the ball or move away from it.



I disagree with Germany deservingly winning. Another reason besides THE questionable call of the game? I KNOW I'm not the only one who saw Germany players taking a swan dive constantly.





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"Looking up scores." , posted Fri 21 Jun 09:20post reply


Hmmm. Since I apparantely (I think that is spelt right) fell asleep, I had to look up the scores.

So the Ikari soldiers, I mean, Brazil held off England 2-1.

Oh and Germany held off America 1-0.

Well, I was sort of right on the first one, but the latter...there's always next year, or in this case, the next four years.





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"Re(1):Looking up scores." , posted Fri 21 Jun 09:43post reply


Are mexican fans still bitter at us? Geez! I went to see the game at RFK stadium in Wash. D.C, and on the train I got harassed. Good lord, what bitterness...





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"Re(2):Looking up scores." , posted Fri 21 Jun 12:05post reply


Tough break against Germany...probably the first time our team actually had a legitimate shot of winning. Still not confident that they could've gotten the winning goal even if the equalizer had gotten in, though. They were attacking all day and still came up empty.

Impressive win by Brazil no matter how you look at it. Coming back from 1-0 (in a game where the first goal often dictates the winner), and, after an unlucky red card, completely clamping down and allowing nothing. It's worth noting that only a catastrophic flop against France prevented this unit from winning it all in '98. Don't expect the same to happen this year.

Senegal-Turkey should be fun to watch. According to ESPN.com, there's already some bad blood brewing...





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What did they do???? those hooligans!!

I dont understand as to why they get so upset. The Mexican team has sorta sucked on the past years, this should not be a surprise to them.

Getting beaten by the U.S. its a nice wakey wakey call so they can get their stuff together.

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"Re(7):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 13:09post reply


quote:

Eh, believe what you will, but Germany won deservingly even though the US were surprisingly not crappy.

And remember, it's upper arm, and it's right next to the body, and the player was not in a position to either try to stop the ball or move away from it.


I disagree with Germany deservingly winning. Another reason besides THE questionable call of the game? I KNOW I'm not the only one who saw Germany players taking a swan dive constantly.



I have to agree with Shin.

First, the US team played quite well, and created many oportunities.

Second, that was handball. No doubt. It wasn't intentional, but:
a) The arm was separated enough from the body to not count as a part of it.
b) The ball touched the arm in a part that is considered to be handball. (Sorry if I express myself badly, but I'm accostumed to talk about football in spanish not in english)
c) The most important thing: The ball was blocked by the arm. If there weren't no arm there, that would have been goal.

Taking apart that incident, it's true that the US did very good, but don't be fooled, this way is how Germany wins. No spectacle, looks like they don't play well, but win. And that's the important thing. Germany is effective. Boring, plain, but effective. Think of Sagat in CvS2 .
Of course, it helps a lot to have the best goalkeeper of the world. Damn, Kahn played a impressive match!! If Spain defeats Korea (and I think they will), the "duel" (they don't confront directly) Kahn vs Casillas, aka the two best goalkeepers of the world front to front, will be great.

I'll finish this post with one famous phrase from Gary Lineker (great 80's England player):
"football is a game in which they play 11 vs 11, and in which nearly always Germany wins"





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"Re(7):HANDBALL!" , posted Fri 21 Jun 13:37post reply


btw, US had the same exact thing in the Mexico fight.
A shot at the goal from Mexico bounced off a US player's hand, and changed its course.

They even showed it slow-mo on the TV, to show you how clearly it happened. However, the ref didn't call it.

What goes comes around...

This year's refs are especially bad though.





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"Looks like we have a winner!" , posted Sat 22 Jun 02:03post reply


Korea makes it to the semi-final! What a shocker!

But I have to admit, the linesmen screwed up here as well...oh well, it's not like Korea's gonna beat Germany anyway!

*just remembered how many upsets were in this World Cup*

eep!


Eh, at any rate, tough luck Time Mage, and...Senegal takes on Turkey in two hours!





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"Re(1):Looks like we have a winner!" , posted Sat 22 Jun 02:16post reply


quote:

But I have to admit, the linesmen screwed up here as well...oh well, it's not like Korea's gonna beat Germany anyway!



KOREA WILL BEAT GERMANY TOO!

HAHAHAHAHHA

the linesmen screwed up indeed, but the referee whistled already, so the defenders and the keeper didnt react well





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"Spain 3-Korea 0" , posted Sat 22 Jun 05:47post reply


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Korea makes it to the semi-final! What a shocker!



Well a few things to say:
First, Spain scored THREE legal goals. Three. One in the 2nd part, in a foul. The referee said there was a foul from Helguera, but REALLY, I don't see anything. Also, In the extra time, Spains scored TWO Golden Goals. Jeez, It's the only team that scores two golden goals and still looses... Agh.
In the first Golden Goal, Joaquin centered from the edge of the field, and there was no goal kick!! It's the same issue as the action in the US vs Germany match: The ball has to pass COMPLETELY the line to be goal kick, and this one only barely touched the line... I'm so angry!!
OK, the second Golden Goal: This one is clear as water, ball centered to Morientes, he scores, then the (absolutely pro-Korea) linemen says it's offside. Oh, yeah, go and watch the replay...

But it's not only that, Spain OWNED Korea from the minute 15 of the first part to the end of the extra time, and Korea was helpless. Helpless? No! They had their dear linemen and (partially) the referee.

So, to sum up, Spain owned Korea, and the 3 referees owned Spain. End of Story.





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"Go Germany! Go Brazil!" , posted Sat 22 Jun 05:53post reply


quote:
But I have to admit, the linesmen screwed up here as well...oh well, it's not like Korea's gonna beat Germany anyway!

*just remembered how many upsets were in this World Cup*

eep!


Eh, at any rate, tough luck Time Mage, and...Senegal takes on Turkey in two hours!



From now on, I'm with Germany, except if they meet Brazil in the final (hopefully that's going to be the final), in which case I'll be with Brazil then.

And, for the Germany vs Korea... well... GOOD luck. You'll need it. Let's hope that Germany scores at least 5 goals, so that at least 1 of them is considered legal...

Germany should have no problem to mantain their goal untresspassed, but the difficulty is going to come in scoring. Precisely, in scoring "legally". Good luck for that.

Of course, in normal conditions Germany should eat Korea, but...





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"Re(1):Spain 3-Korea 0" , posted Sat 22 Jun 05:56post reply


quote:

Well a few things to say:
First, Spain scored THREE legal goals. Three. One in the 2nd part, in a foul. The referee said there was a foul from Helguera, but REALLY, I don't see anything. Also, In the extra time, Spains scored TWO Golden Goals. Jeez, It's the only team that scores two golden goals and still looses... Agh.
In the first Golden Goal, Joaquin centered from the edge of the field, and there was no goal kick!! It's the same issue as the action in the US vs Germany match: The ball has to pass COMPLETELY the line to be goal kick, and this one only barely touched the line... I'm so angry!!
OK, the second Golden Goal: This one is clear as water, ball centered to Morientes, he scores, then the (absolutely pro-Korea) linemen says it's offside. Oh, yeah, go and watch the replay...

But it's not only that, Spain OWNED Korea from the minute 15 of the first part to the end of the extra time, and Korea was helpless. Helpless? No! They had their dear linemen and (partially) the referee.

So, to sum up, Spain owned Korea, and the 3 referees owned Spain. End of Story.



Bullshit, you must be from Spain?

I live here in Europe, and I heard the neutral analysis, you cant say the referee and linesmen were pro-korea. The haters just cant see, the underdog just passed the last 8.

They owned korea, perhaps, but they didnt have the luck or the technique to get the ball behind the keeper in the eyes of the referee, and that's wat matters in the game. And if you say that there's a complot, please think first before you react.

And in the penalty shootout, I would say we had more luck then you, when you guys had more luck against Ireland.





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"Re(1):Go Germany! Go Brazil!" , posted Sat 22 Jun 05:58post reply


quote:
But I have to admit, the linesmen screwed up here as well...oh well, it's not like Korea's gonna beat Germany anyway!

*just remembered how many upsets were in this World Cup*

eep!


Eh, at any rate, tough luck Time Mage, and...Senegal takes on Turkey in two hours!


From now on, I'm with Germany, except if they meet Brazil in the final (hopefully that's going to be the final), in which case I'll be with Brazil then.

And, for the Germany vs Korea... well... GOOD luck. You'll need it. Let's hope that Germany scores at least 5 goals, so that at least 1 of them is considered legal...

Germany should have no problem to mantain their goal untresspassed, but the difficulty is going to come in scoring. Precisely, in scoring "legally". Good luck for that.

Of course, in normal conditions Germany should eat Korea, but...



LoL Look at you,

you blame Korea for these mistakes by what the referees or the linesmen did. It's a shame you know that? Really pathetic, as I said, think first before you STILL react stupid.





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"Turkey didn't get fried!" , posted Sat 22 Jun 06:34post reply


Well, people were actually expecting the Turkeys to be fried and eaten by Senegal, but Noooooooooooo they defeated Senegal by a golden goal in extra time.

Poor Senegal...they fought so well in the tournaments...=(





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"Re(2):Go Germany! Go Brazil!" , posted Sat 22 Jun 06:42post reply


I just had to register to post this
Korea shouldn't be where it is right now and I think every Korean should be ashamed of their football team for getting a victory they didn't deserve. As for anyone who still thinks Korea has beaten Spain should get shot in the face.
For the sake of football itself I hope theres a Germany vs Brazil final, if not at least have one of them be the champions. Having Turkey or Korea win this would completely break the tradition and turn the sport into a joke, at least the way I see it.
It is a sad thing, but I actually believe FIFA would actually make things easier for that to happen to promote the sport where it isn't so traditional *cough* France *cough*, as you have to admit having a Korea Champion WOULD get asian people more interested and excited in the soccer world.





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"Re(2):Go Germany! Go Brazil!" , posted Sat 22 Jun 06:48post reply


Well, I don't know about 3 goals Time Mage, but I know at least one of them should have counted, particularly the one where the spoony linesman said it was a goal kick when it did not cross the line.



Eh, anyway, Turkey beats Senegal, and they face Brazil next...

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quote:
I just had to register to post this
Korea shouldn't be where it is right now and I think every Korean should be ashamed of their football team for getting a victory they didn't deserve. As for anyone who still thinks Korea has beaten Spain should get shot in the face.
For the sake of football itself I hope theres a Germany vs Brazil final, if not at least have one of them be the champions. Having Turkey or Korea win this would completely break the tradition and turn the sport into a joke, at least the way I see it.
It is a sad thing, but I actually believe FIFA would actually make things easier for that to happen to promote the sport where it isn't so traditional *cough* France *cough*, as you have to admit having a Korea Champion WOULD get asian people more interested and excited in the soccer world.



I find your post highly spoony.





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"Turkey rulz" , posted Sat 22 Jun 07:20post reply


Hah,we won.Their magicians didn't make a difference.We lost so much positions that the score could be 4-0.We will phuck Brazil in the return game(If a good referee comes unlike the first one[korean]).If we make it to the final match,we can win.Because we beated them in our last match in Europe 2000.





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"My views..." , posted Sat 22 Jun 09:12post reply


OK what I want to say is that in all kinds of games and tournaments there is bound to be surprises and calls of unfairness. If you asked any soccer fan before the World Cup I can tell you none of them will predict Korea and Turkey to be in the final four. No doubt part of being there is by their own skills and abilities - Korea has a good Swedish coach that helped the Korea soccer team to mature. However, I would also like to point out that the other part is having all the luck in the world on their side.

What we see on TV and on the cameras are different from what the referees and linesman can see on the field. From their persepective they may make wrong calls and judgement - that is certainly inevitable. Plus they have to face stress from the players, coaches and auudiences who are at all times pressurizing them. If you do not trust these people (who are professionally trained), by all means go all out to insult FIFA for training the wrong people, or boycott their tournaments in the future, but to actually say that the winning team doesn't deserve the victory is an act of poor sportsmanship in my opinion. There are instances where I see pushing and hustling from the Italians and Spanish but the whistle was not blown. We really can't expect the referee to be able to see everything we want them to see.

Were there poor judgements by the referees in both the korean matches? I would say yes. But luck ALONE doesn't bring Korea this far. They certainly fought well. Had Korea lost to Italy or Spain, will they have the rights to say "Hey, the referee was unfair!"? Nope, the weaker team DESERVED and was expected to lose. End of story.

There are just too many things that affect an outcome of a match. I really do not want to see a heated arguement in here. Thanks.





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"Re(1):My views..." , posted Sat 22 Jun 11:43post reply


Man, this is getting downright insane. This isn't doing a thing to improve the popularity of soccer stateside.

I understand that officials are only human. That does not excuse outright incompetence or, even worse, favoritism. In just about every American league you can name, if you screw up repeatedly, you don't keep your job. Period. Just ONE lousy call in a big game is sometimes enough to send an ref packing.

Furthermore, the league itself has a responsibility to make the officials' jobs as smooth as possible. Grumble about instant replay in the NFL all you want, but it has been a tremendous boon, not only reversing bad calls but making it a lot easier to make critical calls in the first place. Additionally, football, which has a smaller field and the same number of players as soccer, has a total of seven officials. If soccer can't have a fair game with three, I see no problem with, say, another referee.

It's easy to denounce "whining" when your team is getting all the breaks. But routine horrible calls don't make for a good sport.





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"Re(1):My views..." , posted Sat 22 Jun 12:03post reply


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Korea has a good Swedish coach that helped the Korea soccer team to mature.



It's a Dutch coach ;)

The swedish one is from England





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"Re(2):My views..." , posted Sat 22 Jun 12:29post reply


quote:
Additionally, football, which has a smaller field and the same number of players as soccer, has a total of seven officials. If soccer can't have a fair game with three, I see no problem with, say, another referee.


I think too that soccer should have more refrees, and I'm for the use of "video".

For soccer you have 3 refrees for a large field and 22 players...
What about tennis, for 2 players, you have a least 12 refrees... (no, I don't say that I want 132 refrees for a soccer match...)





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"Re(2):Spain 3-Korea 0" , posted Sat 22 Jun 13:10:post reply


quote:
And if you say that there's a complot, please think first before you react.


Where did I say that there was a complot???





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"OK, OK..." , posted Sat 22 Jun 13:20post reply


quote:

LoL Look at you,

you blame Korea for these mistakes by what the referees or the linesmen did. It's a shame you know that? Really pathetic, as I said, think first before you STILL react stupid.



OK, I have to apologize here. I really don't have anything against the Korean team, nor the Koreans. My only blames goes to the referees, exactly to the linesmen. If I said that was because of my not-yet-tempered anger. So, sorry if I bothered you.
I still think that Spain were superior and would have won if the referees (first and linesmen) would have done their job better, but I have to recognize that the effort made by the Korean team was very impressive. They run and run and don't get tired ever and they follow very good the instructions of their (GREAT) coach, Guss Hiddink. They still lack talent and inventive, but have potential, no doubt.

So... Peace? ^_^





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"Re(3):Go Germany! Go Brazil!" , posted Sat 22 Jun 13:24post reply


quote:
I just had to register to post this
Korea shouldn't be where it is right now and I think every Korean should be ashamed of their football team for getting a victory they didn't deserve. As for anyone who still thinks Korea has beaten Spain should get shot in the face.
For the sake of football itself I hope theres a Germany vs Brazil final, if not at least have one of them be the champions. Having Turkey or Korea win this would completely break the tradition and turn the sport into a joke, at least the way I see it.
It is a sad thing, but I actually believe FIFA would actually make things easier for that to happen to promote the sport where it isn't so traditional *cough* France *cough*, as you have to admit having a Korea Champion WOULD get asian people more interested and excited in the soccer world.



Your post is harsh and a little uninformed. France not having football culture?
You can say things a little less offensively. If I were Korean, I wouldn't be ashamed of my team, basically because I would not know the rules very good, so the noticeable thing would have been that my team won.





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"Re(2):My views..." , posted Sat 22 Jun 20:40post reply


quote:
Man, this is getting downright insane. This isn't doing a thing to improve the popularity of soccer stateside.

I understand that officials are only human. That does not excuse outright incompetence or, even worse, favoritism. In just about every American league you can name, if you screw up repeatedly, you don't keep your job. Period. Just ONE lousy call in a big game is sometimes enough to send an ref packing.

Furthermore, the league itself has a responsibility to make the officials' jobs as smooth as possible. Grumble about instant replay in the NFL all you want, but it has been a tremendous boon, not only reversing bad calls but making it a lot easier to make critical calls in the first place. Additionally, football, which has a smaller field and the same number of players as soccer, has a total of seven officials. If soccer can't have a fair game with three, I see no problem with, say, another referee.

It's easy to denounce "whining" when your team is getting all the breaks. But routine horrible calls don't make for a good sport.



I am sure FIFA is doing everything it can do ensure that its referees are fair and all, by having referees of different nationalties, though I don't rule out the possibilities of bribery in games. But from the way I look at it, they do not make "routine horrible calls" like you said. They made some mistakes that upset the team that is in a disadvantage and thus making them lose the game. But like I said, referees can't see what is going on all the time from their angles, and they are constantly being pressurized. They do not get praised from the 998 correct judgements they made, but the hurdes of abuses from the 2 incorrect ones. So I am in for more referees in soccer matches, just to slam the notion that a weak team cannot win a strong one fair and square.

But this is life, man. Sometimes you just happen to take the shit from unfairness and all that is not within your control. We will just have to live with it. You can take matters into your own hands within your limit (assination, hurl abuses, firing players from clubs) but this just reflect on how you are able to take the harsh realities of life. Peace...^_^





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"Re(4):Go Germany! Go Brazil!" , posted Sat 22 Jun 22:08post reply


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If I were Korean, I wouldn't be ashamed of my team, basically because I would not know the rules very good, so the noticeable thing would have been that my team won.



i'm nitpicking, but i don't think koreans are clueless about the rules. just the teachers at my school~

hmm, i heard from most of the people i watched the game with that the calls were overall pretty good for that game. regardless, what's done is done and if korea loses out due to bad refereeing i'm sure the world will light up and say "in your face korea!" i'm actually surprised with shinatproof's voraciousness in attacking that handball call...yea, it was a dodgy incident, but the us also missed several other chances and even bruce arena admitted that that's why the us didn't win. it's silly to put all your soccer balls in one bag, or all your goal potential in one bad call.

and spain needed to lose anyways, because ireland had to exact their revenge!!!! hah!





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So... Peace? ^_^



No problem :)





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"Re(1):It won't be long now..." , posted Tue 25 Jun 01:26post reply


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The first semifinal will start soon...here's hoping Jeremis starts!



Let's better hope that the referee does not behave... strangely. Anyway... Go, Germany!





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"Wolfgang Krauser vs Kim Kaph Hwan" , posted Tue 25 Jun 03:11post reply


Let the match begins!!!

The referee is the same one in the Korea vs US match in the first round...well he seems to be a decent ref...lets see how things go...

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"Re(1):Wolfgang Krauser vs Kim Kaph Hwan" , posted Tue 25 Jun 03:15post reply


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Let the match begins!!!

The referee is the same one in the Korea vs US match in the first round...well he seems to be a decent ref...lets see how things go...

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"Re(2):Kahn, Kahn!!" , posted Tue 25 Jun 05:17:post reply


Half time and I came in to bug you all! (I haven't posted in a while)

I'm sorry but Kahn just pulled off a great save in this first half. ^_^ He was good during the Bayern Munich games and he just kicks ass here at the cup

Go Germany!

*edit* Final

1-0 germany, tho Korea played a good game.





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"Re(3):Kahn, Kahn!!" , posted Tue 25 Jun 06:37post reply


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Half time and I came in to bug you all! (I haven't posted in a while)

I'm sorry but Kahn just pulled off a great save in this first half. ^_^ He was good during the Bayern Munich games and he just kicks ass here at the cup

Go Germany!

*edit* Final

1-0 germany, tho Korea played a good game.



Kahn's the man! But Michael "Little Kaiser" Ballack was also impressive as usual...I recommend turning him into a libero for 2006!


I actually missed the first half (spoony backfiring sleep spells..) but oh well, I saw Ballack's goal, and that's all that matters!

But seriously, am I the only one who wants Frings out of Germany's starting line up!? Sure he's a good defending midfielder, but he always messes up on the attack and stirs unnecessary trouble and...hey, didn't Ballack get a yellow card!? eep! It's his second!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! He's not gonna play in the final! Spoonies!

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"Re(4):Kahn, Kahn!!" , posted Tue 25 Jun 07:34post reply


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Half time and I came in to bug you all! (I haven't posted in a while)

I'm sorry but Kahn just pulled off a great save in this first half. ^_^ He was good during the Bayern Munich games and he just kicks ass here at the cup

Go Germany!

*edit* Final

1-0 germany, tho Korea played a good game.


Kahn's the man! But Michael "Little Kaiser" Ballack was also impressive as usual...I recommend turning him into a libero for 2006!


I actually missed the first half (spoony backfiring sleep spells..) but oh well, I saw Ballack's goal, and that's all that matters!

But seriously, am I the only one who wants Frings out of Germany's starting line up!? Sure he's a good defending midfielder, but he always messes up on the attack and stirs unnecessary trouble and...hey, didn't Ballack get a yellow card!? eep! It's his second!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! He's not gonna play in the final! Spoonies!

*mentally projects the image of Jeremies and NOT Ziege in Voeller's head*



Personally I think Kahn was great. He performed his role as a goalkeeper with composure and confidence.

Ahhh the end of Korean dream, but way to go Koreans, you guys were great nevertheless!

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"Re(4):Kahn, Kahn!!" , posted Tue 25 Jun 13:24post reply


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Kahn's the man! But Michael "Little Kaiser" Ballack was also impressive as usual...I recommend turning him into a libero for 2006!



Germany was mediocre the whole match, and still won... typical.
They have Kahn, the super-stop-all machine, and they have Ballack their best field player, who by the way did not so much in this match except for the goal. Except those two, this is the worst Germany in many years. I doubt they'll win if they encounter Brazil in the final (and that's likely what will happen).





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"one down" , posted Tue 25 Jun 14:36post reply


Reality catches up to the, *cough*, "home field advantage" (cough, blargh, cough). Can't say I was really surprised at the result. Germany always plays tough, and the Korean side just never capitalized on their advantages. While I don't wish ill on anyone, I'm kinda relieved that they're not going to the final.

So that leaves Brazil-Turkey. The smart money is on the South American powerhouse, and don't let anyone try to convince you differently. I bet most American fans don't even know how the other team got there.

Right now, Brazil is the clear favorite. If they lose, Germany becomes the favorite, and will most likely win with a "Golden Goal", 1-0, for the championship, but it's a helluva tall order for such an undistinguished unit. If it's Brazil vs. Germany, which looks likely, it all comes down to who can get on the board first. The Brazilian strikers will attack, but that defense won't crack easily. The thing I'm praying absolutely doesn't happen no matter what is a penalty kick shootout to decide the championship. If Brazil wins a SECOND World Cup in that manner, I swear I'm giving up on this whole spectacle right then and there.

Footnote: Anyone else think the South Korean coach has got his work cut out for him motivating the team to win the 3rd place game, especially since they know they can't count on favorable officiating anymore?





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"Re(1):one down" , posted Wed 26 Jun 04:58post reply


I know Brazil is the favorite here, but you can't overlook how bitter Turkey was from the first time the played. I think this will be a good game. Turkey has some good players, and will give Brazil a run for their money.





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"The Final" , posted Wed 26 Jun 13:01post reply


Germany vs Brazil, it doesn't get any better than this!





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"Re(1):The Final" , posted Wed 26 Jun 14:09post reply


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Germany vs Brazil, it doesn't get any better than this!



Germany will be slaughtered, and their only hope is a even better Kahn.

The difference between the two teams is quite remarkable, even more now that there's no Ballack. The triple R attack (Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and Rivaldo) are too much.

That's my opinion, at least.





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"Re(2):The Final" , posted Wed 26 Jun 14:32post reply


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Germany vs Brazil, it doesn't get any better than this!


Germany will be slaughtered, and their only hope is a even better Kahn.

The difference between the two teams is quite remarkable, even more now that there's no Ballack. The triple R attack (Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and Rivaldo) are too much.

That's my opinion, at least.



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"Re(3):The Final" , posted Thu 27 Jun 04:51post reply


I'm backing Germany on this one, however grim it looks. I know some of their good players are out, but I think the team can pull together.
They're not the mindless robots the press makes them out to be, this will be a good game. Knowing brazil will be playing dirty... bah!

Party on ppl! I know I will for the final!





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"Big weekend!" , posted Thu 27 Jun 16:09post reply


Heidern, Ralf and Clark made it to the finals. The obstacle that stands in their way is Krauser. Will his half-brother, Geese, cheat and give Krauser an edge? Maybe he will fall off a tower and land on Heidern. Oh and what about Mr. Big? Will he be just a pawn for the evil duo?

Um, I think Brazil will win it all.

In the other match, Kim is going up against...Ellis? Nani? How did she get here? Um, I don't know how. She just is.

It's not right if South Korea isn't in the top three. So, South Korea wins the third place match.

Yeah, this weekend will be big alright.





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"Third place..." , posted Sat 29 Jun 16:32post reply


belongs to Turkey. They won 3-2.





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"Re(1):Third place..." , posted Sat 29 Jun 17:18post reply


No time, short coment:

The Turkeys deserved the third place. They played an awesome World Cup.





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"Final!" , posted Sun 30 Jun 08:36post reply


Brazil won 2-0.





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"Re(1):Final!" , posted Mon 1 Jul 03:56post reply


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Brazil won 2-0.



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