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Time Mage

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"Two questions." , posted Fri 31 May 12:21

Well to save posting space, I have two different questions that have been in my head for a while, and the go together in this post:

- What was the first game that had cel-shaded graphics?

I'm not very sure, but... wasn't that Dreamcast Whacky Races game?

- In which game did Geese for the first time the "Deadly Rave" super? It has to be a post AOF2 Fatal Fury, but I don't know what...

That's all. I hope you can help me!

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Taa kun
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"Re(1):Two questions." , posted Fri 31 May 12:27

quote:

- What was the first game that had cel-shaded graphics?

Wasn't it Jet Set Radio ?

quote:

- In which game did Geese for the first time the "Deadly Rave" super? It has to be a post AOF2 Fatal Fury, but I don't know what...

The "Deadly Rave" from AOF2 was the first, but it was a punch dance attack, just like Ryo's Rembuken...
The "complex command" "Deadly Rave" appears in Real Bout Fatal Fury...

Tsukurimashou... Tsukurimashou...
Sate sate nani ga dekiru ka na ?

Dr Baghead

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"Re(1):Two questions." , posted Fri 31 May 12:27:

quote:
- What was the first game that had cel-shaded graphics?

I'm not very sure, but... wasn't that Dreamcast Whacky Races game?

I'm pretty sure Whacky Racers came into being after Jet Set Radio...

Edit: ARRGHH! JSR, not JSRF!

[this message was edited by Dr Baghead on Fri 31 May 12:28]

Burning Kyo

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"Re(2):Two questions." , posted Fri 31 May 13:28

quote:

- What was the first game that had cel-shaded graphics?

Wasn't it Jet Set Radio ?

- In which game did Geese for the first time the "Deadly Rave" super? It has to be a post AOF2 Fatal Fury, but I don't know what...

The "Deadly Rave" from AOF2 was the first, but it was a punch dance attack, just like Ryo's Rembuken...
The "complex command" "Deadly Rave" appears in Real Bout Fatal Fury...

The first Cell-Shade game is Fear Effect on PSX, otherwise on DC it was JSR.

true "Deadly Rave" >>> Real Bout:Garou Densetsu

Dr Baghead

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"Re(3):Two questions." , posted Fri 31 May 14:16

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The first Cell-Shade game is Fear Effect on PSX, otherwise on DC it was JSR.

Fear Effect wasn't cel-shaded, I don't even think the PSX can do true cel-shading. FE just lacked detail in it's character models

Radish
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"Re(4):Two questions." , posted Fri 31 May 14:42:

Well, apparently they were both released on 6/29/2000, Wacky Races in NA and Jet Set Radio in Japan. I'm sure however that Smilebit thought up cell shading first and the idea was leaked during development.

[this message was edited by Radish on Fri 31 May 14:44]

Shin ATproof

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"Re(5):Two questions." , posted Fri 31 May 15:29

According to GameFAQ it says...

June 29 2000-Jet Set Radio
February 23 2000-Fear Effect

But I don't recall Fear Effect using Cel-Shading...maybe it did...I don't remember that well because I didn't like the game much heheheh.

Rid Hershel

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"Re(5):Two questions." , posted Fri 31 May 15:32

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Well, apparently they were both released on 6/29/2000, Wacky Races in NA and Jet Set Radio in Japan. I'm sure however that Smilebit thought up cell shading first and the idea was leaked during development.

I doubt so, Cel-shading was used in animation previously, I think, so it's not Smilebit's idea.

whitesword

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"What are we talking about?" , posted Fri 31 May 16:27

Seriously, what IS cell-shading? I know what it looks like, but what is it?

Toxico

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"Re(1):What are we talking about?" , posted Sat 1 Jun 15:27

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Seriously, what IS cell-shading? I know what it looks like, but what is it?

AS far as I know, they are poligonal graphics that use methods that I know not of to imitate 2D graphics..

Wasn't Strider 2 cel-chaded??? and if it is, it's from 98 or so (right???)

Geese: As a move (with the name) it was first on Aof 2, as a move (with the button command) it was on FFRB.

Note that b storyline Geese's Deadly Rave is the Imitation of Ryo's Ryuuko Ranbu (In fact, that's the objetive of AoF 2, Geese wants to perfect his own version matching it with the original)

Rid Hershel

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"Re(2):What are we talking about?" , posted Sat 1 Jun 18:09:

Cel-shading is a type of graphics that emulate a 2D look with polygons by using real-time solid shadows for the characters (like the shadows used in animation) and sometimes adding black borders to the characters (like pencil/ink lines).

I think that Holiday can give a more technical explanation to it.

[this message was edited by Rid Hershel on Sat 1 Jun 18:17]

justicekyo
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"Re(2):What are we talking about?" , posted Sat 1 Jun 18:13

quote:

Wasn't Strider 2 cel-chaded??? and if it is, it's from 98 or so (right???)

not, it wasnt... it was 2-D in a 3-D world..