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| iggy
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|  "Re(1):Questions for"
, posted Thu 30 May 10:47
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It's possible to finish the challenge mode?
How many hidden characters there is ? N' who're they ?
Yes, you can.
You need to complete it with Dio to get the other Dio as he is in the begenning of the 3rd part, with Joseph to get him as the 2nd part Joseph, Kakyôin to get the stupid sunglass Kakyôin, Anubis & Silvercharriot Polnareff to get the barber (funny character), Hol Horse&Gail to get Hol horse and Boingo, and with Allessy to get the Allessy mode.
there is another character, RubberSoul, I can't remind how youi get him (finish with another character, but who?) It is basically an ugly Kakyôin.
The important ones are the barber, Dio and Joseph. They are the only original characters.
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| Burning Kyo 333th Post
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|  "Re(2):Questions for"
, posted Thu 30 May 10:57:
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It's possible to finish the challenge mode?
How many hidden characters there is ? N' who're they ?
Yes, you can.
You need to complete it with Dio to get the other Dio as he is in the begenning of the 3rd part, with Joseph to get him as the 2nd part Joseph, Kakyôin to get the stupid sunglass Kakyôin, Anubis & Silvercharriot Polnareff to get the barber (funny character), Hol Horse&Gail to get Hol horse and Boingo, and with Allessy to get the Allessy mode.
there is another character, RubberSoul, I can't remind how youi get him (finish with another character, but who?) It is basically an ugly Kakyôin.
The important ones are the barber, Dio and Joseph. They are the only original characters.
Raaaagggghhh... It's impossible to finish the challenge mode ! too hard ! Besides, the DM did too few damage in this game.
there're infinites or cheap thing to finish this mode ???
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| TiamatRoar
103th Post
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| "Re(1):Questions for" , posted Thu 30 May 14:52
I found Challenge Mode to be incredibly easy to beat with Hol Horse to get Hol Horse with Boingo. The computer is a sucker for nearly all of Hol Horse's special attacks. Many you can take out just by repeatedly shooting his emperor straight, a lot, so long as you keep your distance. And using the Hanged Man special (not super) at the beginning of the match works against everyone except Joseph to get some free damage at the start of the round. Heck, the hanged man special in general works against the computer so long as you keep your distance. Jumping back then using glass showers while in the air is good for keeping distance, I think. As is using Hol Horse's slide to slide underneath them as they jump then using his run to get away (hehe, Hol is a master at running away :P)
Alessi (to get "Alessi mode, where you can play as children permanently) is easy to beat Challenge Mode with for the most part, too. Just keep pressuring the computer with his stand fierce attacks and dashing foward using them again and again (throwing in some crouching ones for good measure), which are very safe and have very long range, and the computer doesn't know how to deal with them unlike a real player.
Joseph is pretty hard to beat Challenge mode with to get Young Joseph. I just abused his medium stand attack uppercut and kept on rejuggling the opponent with that, but it does soooo little damage. Still let me win in the end, though. You can combo a super uppercut after it, too.
Jotaro is also pretty hard to beat Challenge Mode with to get Rubber Soul. Don't remember what I did to beat it with him. Sorry^^; Ducking fierce to keep on juggling an opponent maybe, but I forget. Never bother with his fierce attack in the air and instead use medium if you jump for some reason.
Kakyoin is INCREDIBLY EASY to beat it with to get New Kakyoin. Probably the easiest. Just keep on using his stand sweep crouching fierce attack as the computer gets up. They'll never block it if you time it right. It'll knock them back down, they won't block it as they get back up, it'll knock them back down again...
Black Polnareff is very hard to beat it with to get Kahn. Fierce attack combo'd into ogre slash is basically what I did the majority of the time, but even then it was ridiculously hard.
Dio isn't too hard to beat it with to get Shadow Dio. I couldn't really find any cheap tactics to use with him, but Dio in general is a very powerful and well-rounded character so I was able to pull through without too much trouble.
Always choose to recover life at the end of every match no matter how little life you need, unless you like, have 95% energy already, in which case you can choose to get some super bars, instead.
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| Burning Kyo 337th Post
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| "Re(2):Questions for" , posted Fri 31 May 00:17
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I found Challenge Mode to be incredibly easy to beat with Hol Horse to get Hol Horse with Boingo. The computer is a sucker for nearly all of Hol Horse's special attacks. Many you can take out just by repeatedly shooting his emperor straight, a lot, so long as you keep your distance. And using the Hanged Man special (not super) at the beginning of the match works against everyone except Joseph to get some free damage at the start of the round. Heck, the hanged man special in general works against the computer so long as you keep your distance. Jumping back then using glass showers while in the air is good for keeping distance, I think. As is using Hol Horse's slide to slide underneath them as they jump then using his run to get away (hehe, Hol is a master at running away :P)
Alessi (to get "Alessi mode, where you can play as children permanently) is easy to beat Challenge Mode with for the most part, too. Just keep pressuring the computer with his stand fierce attacks and dashing foward using them again and again (throwing in some crouching ones for good measure), which are very safe and have very long range, and the computer doesn't know how to deal with them unlike a real player.
Joseph is pretty hard to beat Challenge mode with to get Young Joseph. I just abused his medium stand attack uppercut and kept on rejuggling the opponent with that, but it does soooo little damage. Still let me win in the end, though. You can combo a super uppercut after it, too.
Jotaro is also pretty hard to beat Challenge Mode with to get Rubber Soul. Don't remember what I did to beat it with him. Sorry^^; Ducking fierce to keep on juggling an opponent maybe, but I forget. Never bother with his fierce attack in the air and instead use medium if you jump for some reason.
Kakyoin is INCREDIBLY EASY to beat it with to get New Kakyoin. Probably the easiest. Just keep on using his stand sweep crouching fierce attack as the computer gets up. They'll never block it if you time it right. It'll knock them back down, they won't block it as they get back up, it'll knock them back down again...
Black Polnareff is very hard to beat it with to get Kahn. Fierce attack combo'd into ogre slash is basically what I did the majority of the time, but even then it was ridiculously hard.
Dio isn't too hard to beat it with to get Shadow Dio. I couldn't really find any cheap tactics to use with him, but Dio in general is a very powerful and well-rounded character so I was able to pull through without too much trouble.
Always choose to recover life at the end of every match no matter how little life you need, unless you like, have 95% energy already, in which case you can choose to get some super bars, instead.
LOL Omega Rugal in level "Expert" is easier ! 'n Igniz too ! 
Jojo's BA is too hard ; the Supers do too few damage (a classic super does 35 %).
What's the end of the challenge mode ? When you are at level 100 ???
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| DKW
90th Post
Occasional Customer
| "Re(6):Questions for" , posted Sat 1 Jun 02:17
Ooh! Ooh! I have this game! I can answer!
...er...gee, never was all that good...
Well, first off, obligatory Gameshark disclaimer. I got all the special characters with the help of my trusty DC Gameshark (the Infinite Health code, if my memory serves). I often get ridicule for this, but seeing as you've all EXPERIENCED FOR YOURSELVES how un-freaking believably hard Challenge Mode is, I don't think I'll be getting any particular flack over this. Right?
Anyway, there is a topmost level in Challenge Mode...260 or something, whereupon the level becomes "GOD". At this point you're a "god of Jojo" and stop gaining levels (although your score still increases normallY). Joseph will give you a special congratulatory message at the end of your game.
The only perosn I reached this lofty plateau with so far...which, I assure, was not easy even with the signifigant advantages I gave myself...was Jean-Paul. I just set the computer life to nothing and beat each opponent with the body-split super. The tremendous time bonuses and the bonus for winning with a super were enough; I think I reach god status after the 8th win.
As for the special characters themselves, here's what I know:
Rubber Soul - In the manga, he had the ability to adopt the fighting style (sorta) of anyone he met. He'd definitely be a much better character if he could do that here instead of being stuck as a cheap Kakyoin copy all the time. There isn't a whole lot to recommend him, and the advantage of never having to worry about Stand Crushes is offset by the really watered-down copied attacks.
Hol Horse with Boingo - If there's any appreciable difference between him and Hol Horse w/o Boingo, I don't see it. Maybe once I play him a little more, I'll find something, but I kinda doubt it.
Blind Kakyoin - ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS, A COMPLETE WASTE OF A HIDDEN CHARACTER. There, I said it. He's not just a carbon copy of Kakky N, he's a carbon copy with weaker specials. Geez, at least Dan Hibiki, Evil Ryu, Hyper Venom, Mega War Machine etc. all had some use. This is the first Capcom character I've seen that serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever.
Young Joseph - He's pretty cool. Instead of Purple Hermit (stands were unheard of in the 1930's), he has a variety of offbeat weapons and a powerful pair of fists. If you enjoy old-school slugging, he'll quickly become one of your favorites.
Possessed ("Black") Jean-Paul - Even more offensively-geared than the original, especially since he doesn't have to deal with any of that stand on/stand off nonsense, he packs a serious punch. Add the instant-counter ability inherent to Anubis, and you got yourself a killing machine. One of my favorites.
Shadow Dio - Very solid character, much like Young Joseph. One of the better comboers in the game.
Khan - An offensive powerhouse much like the other Anubis wielders; probably even deadlier due to his speed and tremendous variety of slashes. IMHO the best hidden character of all.
Hmm...looking at this list, I get the feeling Capcom should have spent more time developing both the story and game system, and not been so adamant about adhereing to the canon 3rd series flow of events. Imagine how much fun this would be if they could have a dream match with Nena, N'doul, J.Gail, ZZ et al. without having to worry about the source material.
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| iggy
201th Post
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| "Re(7):Questions for" , posted Sat 1 Jun 02:43
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Imagine how much fun this would be if they could have a dream match with Nena, N'doul, J.Gail, ZZ et al. without having to worry about the source material.
I really think they did the best they could do. Characters like Alessy or Mariah were really not made to be in a fighting game, but they adapted them with a great result. (and how could they have used Neena or the old Gail, with their stupid stands?). I think i remember the deal with Araki was "I design Midler for you if you use Alessy", or something like that.
there are pretty original characters in this game, and I like it the way it is. (yes, I would have been pleased if there had been more characters, but this is a wish that can never be fulfilled).
I'm really confident in the 5th part game. Many characters will be missing, but I think I will have the feeling they did their best, and with Capcom, that's extremely rare.
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| DKW
91th Post
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| "Re(6):Questions for" , posted Sat 1 Jun 22:23
Correction, it's Jean-Pierre, not Jean-Paul.
As for Alessi Mode, a bit of a warning: Avoid "Children Forever" unless you don't mind an incredibly long, monotonous match. If you thought 4-on-4 battles in CvS1 were tedious, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
I guess my main beef with JBA was that Capcom was pretty much hemmed in by the storyline. And unlike, say, Ranma 1/2, there are a lot of things about the manga that just don't translate very well to a standard fighting game.
That said, I'd love to see a crossgenerational Jojo all-out brawl. This is one of the few instances where throwing continuuity out the window and declaring the whole spectacle a "dream match" might actually be advantageous.
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| TiamatRoar
107th Post
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| "Re(8):Questions for" , posted Sat 1 Jun 22:28
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Imagine how much fun this would be if they could have a dream match with Nena, N'doul, J.Gail, ZZ et al. without having to worry about the source material.
I really think they did the best they could do. Characters like Alessy or Mariah were really not made to be in a fighting game, but they adapted them with a great result. (and how could they have used Neena or the old Gail, with their stupid stands?). I think i remember the deal with Araki was "I design Midler for you if you use Alessy", or something like that.
there are pretty original characters in this game, and I like it the way it is. (yes, I would have been pleased if there had been more characters, but this is a wish that can never be fulfilled).
I'm really confident in the 5th part game. Many characters will be missing, but I think I will have the feeling they did their best, and with Capcom, that's extremely rare.
I was incredibly impressed that they were actually able to make fighting versions of Alessi and Mariah at all. Though... actually, i think Capcom originally wanted Midler to be Mariah, but couldn't think of how to make Mariah's stand fit into a fighting game, so they asked Araki to make a Midler for them, instead. Then later on, they figured out how to do Mariah's stand for a fighting game and added her in, later (Mariah's not in the first JJBA game before they released it's 'sequel', that also added in Hol and PetShop etc)
I figure this because Midler's personality is very similar to Mariah's with the flirtyness and the Dio obsession, and also, she occupies Mariah's role in the storyline (going after Joseph while Alessi went after Polnareff. In the manga, Mariah was the one to go after Joseph while Alessi went after Pol. Erm... yea)
...gooooo tangents.
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Raaaaagggghhh !!!!!!!!!! There's no difference between 1 star difficulty 'n 8 stars difficulty 
