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| Chupiler 656th Post
 
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|  "GGXX report"
, posted Wed 29 May 03:01
although I'm supposed to have a life, today I spent all my time at the arcade (didn't have anything to do anyways though :P). My RoD report was actually written at a nearby internet cafe, when I went to get some food.
Button Setup
  
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Stanard. All the arcades here were toned for the PS2/DC version, so I had to get used to this setup. Wasn't hard.
BGs. At least 5 new stages, 1 for each new character + boss stage. I believe Testament got his own new stage as well. Brigdet's stage (a forest village) is also Dizzy's new BG. Eddie's stage is now Testament's stage. Everyone else is the same.
Same, but remixed that is. Added stuff, different times of day, different weather etc. I don't think the person who added the stuff was the same person who did the original backgrounds; a lot of it doesn't seems to fit. I like how the statue now becomes clear when you go behind it (in the Japan stage). Boss stage just seems too half-assed. It's just you standing on water with lightning in the background.
Music. Disappointing. Not in the sense that it wasn't good, but it would have been real nice to have made new songs for the old characters, but it's just remixes of the old songs. Plus I didn't like a lot of the remixes (especially since I was listening to the arrage (Rock) tracks on the way to the arcade). New characters had pretty good songs, though I don't reemember all of them. I think I'll wait for another arrange track to come out to buy.
So as far as music and BGs go, I would've liked new stuff, especially since this is counted as a sequel.
Voices. I think all of them have been rerecorded. Jam's has become less annoying and a little cuter. Venom's is deeper in genreal (I liked his old Double Head Morbid voice too). Eddie is......Koyasu. What can I say? I should've looked at the credits, but I forgot to pay attantion. Sol sounds a lot less deeper. In X it sounded fake, in XX it sounds stupid. Note to Ishiwatari: don't give up your dayjob.
System changes:
Speed seems to be up a little. Fitting for GG, I think.
Gravity system is tweaked, eliminating inifinites that were in X.
Recovery syste is also tweaked so you can get out of a lot of "infinites" in X.
Follow up attacks are also changed, changging a lot strategies now. Hard to do the Mist Finer corner.
With the addition of the dust button, including sweeps in combos is a lot easier. Note that pressing  won't do dust attacks.
I'll cut it off here for now.
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| Chupiler 661th Post
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| "Bridget P1" , posted Wed 29 May 14:50
1st person I picked: Bridget.
.........Stop looking at me like that!
Intros:
Uses 2 yoyos and bounces them up and down, forming a triangle, then tosses them up, catchign one with his hand, and the other disappears behind his back. Says either "If I win, give me a tip." or "I'll show you a better trick.)
Yoyo rolls from behind the opponent, tripping them, then Bridget steps on them, picks up the yoyo and says (he didn't notice what happened. "How irresponsible, sleeping now." or "Did I make you wait that long?" or "You'll catch a cold sleeping there."
Win poses:
Tosses yoyo up > catches it in his belt(?). "Here I go. Thank you." "Yoyos don't have blind spots." "(something about catching the yoyo)"
Tosses yoyo up > hits the opponent. Sticks out his tongue and bows. "Forget about the tip." "I shouldn't underestimate the poewr of the wind." "Homer sometimes nods." (means everyone makes mistakes).
Pulls up his yoyo > hooks on his skirt > pulls it up > realizes this > pulls it back down, blushing. "And now for...iyan!" (you translate that :P) "How embarrassing." "The last trick......uh nevermind."
I liked the start color, but you also pick the color of his blood. Green yoyo = green blood (at least when he blushes).
Maybe I should start moving on to his moves.
...*hah*....*hah*...
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| Chupiler 662th Post
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| "Bridget P2" , posted Wed 29 May 16:08
 Swings yoyos in a downward motion. Good anit-air. Looks like the top half of his body is invicible, too.
 Hip attack. Looks slow, is a tad slow, but has very good priority, and counter hits staggers the enemy. Counter hit > dash > gatling works well. Also seems to have some invincibility around the legs, so it may serve well against people trying to start combos with dash > low attack.
2 hit Hangetsu-zan-like kick. Overhead. Since you're wide open after, I don't recomend using this too much. Works well with Ore to Kill Machine, though.
Tosses a yoyo up at a 30 degree angle. Good as a far range anti-air.
in air  Spins yoyos around. Good crossover. You can also jump cancel, so it may be useful in air combos.
 Starship: Spins his yoyos around him. Can be done in the air. no range, but has invincibility time, so this may be a good move to use to get out of rushes.
YOYO Secchi (Set YOYO): Tosses a yoyo out. lever+HS and you can set the direction. The yoyo has no hit detection and will stay there until you do something. Pressing HS again will bring it back. If the enemy attacks you (hit or guard), it disappears. You can set and pull back in the air as well.
(YOYO set) Roger Rush: Turns the YOYO into Roger the teddy bear and he attacks while being pulled back. If it hits, it staggers the opponent.
(YOYO set) Jacked Roger : YOYO turns to Roger with a buzzsaw. Floats in place for a while. Good for zoning the opponent. Can set off in the air.
(YOYO set)Roger Hug: Turns YOYO into a target that hooks on to the enemy, whether or not it's guarded. While the target lasts, you can't set another YOYO or do other YOYO moves except for Rolling, which will automatically home in on the target (enemy).
(YOYO set) Rolling Idou (Move)Rolls toward the set YOYO. Can use in air. You can use it up to 2 times in one jump. All hits on you are counted as counters. Although the move has no attack detection, you can cancel into air moves. Not too much use, but I'm expiramenting with it.
Kick Start My Heart: Uses the YOYOs as wheels. Has a hit detection, but will not know opponent down, so be sure to follow up. Very quick, and I use it in my combos.
(during Kick Start)Teishi (Stop): Stops. The sparks have an attack point. Bridget can move around 5:5 or 4:6 (basically pretty much even with the opponent), so use this when the opponent guards the Kick Start.
(during Kick Start)Hassha (Launch): Bridget will jump up, spinning his yoyos around. Jumps far, so it's a good way to escape corners.
Kakusei
 Maintenance chuu no Higeki (The Tragedy during Maintenance): I could've sworn the command with 41236x2, but that's what the online command list says. Bridget does something, gets knocked back, and about 1/2 to 3/4 of the screen away a giant explosion occurs. slow, and the location of the explosion is rather awkward, making this move hard to use. I haven't found a single good thing about it yet.
Loop the Loop: Tosses his yoyos outin a circular motion, then after a couple loops at giant Roger drops from the sky. Roger is an overhead I beleive. Gatling combo finisher.
(YOYO set)Ore to Kill Machine (Me and Kill Machine): Turns YOYO into Roger on a bike, with a circle of fire around him. Very damaging. Best to run up and start mixing overheads and low hits. Main super to use.
Ichigeki:
Shoot the Moon: tosses a yoyo out (maybe 1.5 characters out) and if it hits, throws the person out, and the opponent lands on the moon head first. It seems that the toss up motion (he still does that motion whether or not the first hit hits) has an attack point, but I haven't got that to hit. Guardable.
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| Chupiler 664th Post
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| "Slayer P1" , posted Wed 29 May 17:32
Tetsuzan-kou (shoulder charge) Slow, but knocks opponent far away. According to the list it has top half invincibility, too. Maybe anti-air?
Hops up and does a spin kick. Overhead. Holding K down just make him hop, but I don't se any use for that.
Spin kick. Slow, but counter stagger the enemy. Recovery time is quick, but I don't know how much priority this move has.
orMach Punch: Dashes forward and does a straight. K travels farther.
orD(Dandy) Step: Dashes back then forward. K goes back farther (I think)
(D Step)Pile Bunker: A straight. Different from the Mach Punch. Very damaging, and fairly good range. I thinnk this may be his main weapon.
(D Step)Crosswise Heel: One kick up > somersault kick. Can't recover from the hit, so you can follow up with combos or a super.
(D Step)orUnder Pressure: A quick hook. Quick recovery time, but no range.
(Under Pressure)orIt's Late: Overhead punch. Counter makes opponent bounce. I don't recomend using this too ofter, since it leaves you wide open.
Under Tow: Spins around and does a backhand. Unblockable, but real slow. I don't see the point of this since he has a command throw. If your going to use it, do so as the opponent gets up.
Chi wo Suu Uchuu (Blood Sucking Cosmos): Command throw. Sucks their blood, and makes the opponents stagger. However it's easy to get out of the stagger since you see the throw first, plus the move doesn't do much damage. I've been hearing of a cheap combination similar to SF3's Makoto throw trick, but I have yet to test it out.
in air Footless Journey: His mantle spins around him. Unfourtunately, the angle isn't to good, so I haven't used it much...
Kakusei
Dead on Time: Flys up at a 15 degree or so angle and punches. Good for combos (though he doesn't have much) or breaking rushes, due to it's speed. Powerful, too.
Eien no Tsubasa (Wings of Eternity): Flys up at a 60 or so degree angle, hitting the person. Knocks oppoennt into the air, which they can't recover from. If you miss or they block it, you'll get take some blows.
in airChokka-gata Dandy (Straightdown-style Dandy): Eien no Tsubasa down version (45 degrees). It staggers the opponent when it hits on the ground. I'm not sure, but it may be an overhead, so I suggest doing to ultra-low.
Ichigeki
All dead: Shoulder charges a little under half the screen, and if it hits it shows Slayer uppercutting the opponent into the sky (star effect included). While that happens you hear (and see the words) Slayer reading a haiku.
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| Chupiler 668th Post
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| "Bridget and Slayer other" , posted Wed 29 May 18:18:
I think I'll take some time to go through Bridget and Slayer a little, since those 2 are 2 characters I'm gonna play often.
Well there isn't much to be explained about Bridget, since I already explained most of it, so I'll just post up some combos I use.
dash > > > > > Kick Start My Heart > Hassha (RC) > Starship
His main combo. If you have no Tension, then just take out the RC part.
opponent in air: > > JC > combo (end with ) > JC another combo.
Anti-air combo. Another main combo.
I think you need to play either setting and pulling yoyos real quick or real slow. What I mean by that is set > pull, set > pull, etc or set, fight awhile, and pull back when the opponent forgets about it. I suggest the first one though.
Slayer looks cool and dandy (like me), but in fact has whacky and silly moves. His jump has him just waving his arms and legs back and forth. In his crouch, he sits down on his mantle. He blocks by waving his hand in a circle-like motion. For his courching block he uses his smoke. Even his down pose is full of composure (he's just lying of the ground, with his elbow supporting his head). He real fun to play and watch.
About his haiku: Haiku has 3 lines in it. I found out (all I did for a while was do his Ichigeki over and over) that the 3 lines are completely random. For instance, line 1 is taken from data bank A, line 2 is from B and line 3 is from C. So there are a lot of combinations.
Here are some I came across. (periods are just to take space).
In this world
.....Eat or sleep
..........Alien
Go ahead and do it
.....Take a chance
..........Drink by yourself
In the darkness
.....Having experience of being tricked
..........Chirarism
(chirarism is the word for the aesthetic of sexy glimpses; think Momo from Xenosaga as being that personification)
In a coffin
.....Either way
..........Trunks (as in boxers)
In a rocket
.....While being bashful
..........Housewife
If it were me
.....At the speed of light.
..........Primitive man
I swear I can't stop laughing.
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| Chupiler 668th Post
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| "old charas P1" , posted Wed 29 May 19:09
I don't have much time left today, so I'll just go over quick changes of the old characters.
HC = half cancle
Sol=Badguy
Bandit Revolver and Gun Flame are HCable. What's the point of the BR? He just spins forward without attack.
New move: Bandit Finger ((hold down). He lost his follow-up for the BR and is replaced with this. Shoots down at a 45-50 degree angle. Note that the kick from the BR doesn't come out. Hits people farther away, but will miss those the BR would hit.
Riot Stamp. Uhhh...can this move get any faster? I swear it's faster than X......
Tyrant Rave ver. beta. Changed to a flame version of Rick's Gaia Breath. I think it's stronger now then in X. Reason being is that the uppercut part of the move looks to be invincible. I went through projectiles with it.
Ky=Kiske
New move: Greed Sever () Replaces his Crescent Slash. Jumps up and his sword makes a Crack Shoot like motion, and swings it down. Very quick recovery time, but I doubt you can use this in combos due to it's slow start.
has been changes to a horizontal move, changing Ky's strategy greatly.
Mid-air Stun Edge is really fast now.
New Kakusei: Sacred Edge (). Throws a large edge that hits 5 or so times. Not bad damage. Very quick, though. I've done Greed Sever > Sacred Edge > Sacred Edge.
May
Iruka-san (horizontal, at least) is now cancellable. Plus it's the HC! Only right when it hits.
New Kakusei: Chouzetsu Monzetsu Kirimomi Dai-senpuu (Transendent agonizing Tail Spin Giant Whirlwind) (). Giant swing with her anchor. Useful in combos. May become her main super.
New Kakusei 2(?): Deluxe Goshogawara Bomber (during Dai-senpuu, . Goshogawara (kkiller whale) jumps out)
Axl=Low
Tenhou-seki now has a low version ().
New move: Hachisu-bako (Beehive Box) () Also an atemi. Unlike the Tehou-seki, it can miss. Only use s for the next more.
New Kakusei: Shiranami no Homura (Flame of White Waves (during Hachisu-bako  ). Interesting command. Right when you atemi the opponent's move, you must do it. Tosses the sickles out both ways and brings them up, forming a half cirle of fire. It's pretty easy once you get the hang of it. Unfortunately, you can get knocked out of it.
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| Chupiler 669th Post
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| "old charas P2" , posted Wed 29 May 19:55
Potemkin
new move(?): Hamer Fall Break (during Hammer Fall, .
New move: F.B.D. (). Don't know what it stands for, but I think "Finger Bullet Decopin" (Decopin is flicking a persons forehead. It is an invisible projectile. I don't know how far it goes. I hear I relects projectiles.
Chipp=Zanuff
Alpha Blade has a follow up now (after ground Alpha Blade, ). He turns around and stabs.
Gamma Blade starts out slower, but it locks the opponent in a magic cirle for a short while, allowing you to follow up.
Baiken
New move: Kabari ().
Pulls opponent in with a chain. RCable. I wonder what possibilities there are... Even then though, the stagger seems quick, to trying to mix it up with high, low attacks after it doesn't work well. Range is a bit shorter than what I wanted, and so is the distance she pulls them in.
New move: Tetsuzan-sen (during Kabari ). So far, I've relied on this after the Kabari. I should try new options.
Youzan-sen has no invincibility, but range is better now. As usual, ultra-low version is useful as an overhead.
The Baku moves seem to hit better, since it stops time first.
Anji=Mito
no longer an overhead, but it staggers on counters. Top half invincible.
has guard points (GP). Counter hit knocks enemy up.
has a low GP.
New move: Fuujin Hassei Hito-ashi tobi (during Fuujin, . Replaces the follow up "Shin Nisshiki" (though he still has it separately). Hops to the other side of the person. (He had this in GGX mode). I wish they kept his Shin NIsshiki.
New Kakusei: Tenjin Kyaku ( ). Jumps up maybe 2 characters, and stomps. If it hits, he starts drilling the opponent. Pretty poewrful, and pretty quick, but it's a charge.
New Kakusei: Kachou Fuugetsu (during GP, ). Does a dance like move on the opponent. In location test, peole could get out of it (each hit staggered the opponent) by jamming on the lever, but I don't know about now.
I gotta go now, so I'll finish it up tomorrow (hopefully).
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| Chupiler 670th Post
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| "Some more Baiken" , posted Thu 30 May 16:08
I don't have much time on my hands right now, but let me go over some more Baiken, since I've found more info on the net.
: I don't remember exactly the motion, but I staggers the opponent. I've done > and > , but I haven't tried doing > > .
As I mentioned in the beta reports, te recovery system has been changed, giving Baiken a lot less options. No more > (or) when they're on the ground.
I didn't test the Youzan-sen that much, but looking at other reports it's a lot weaker than I thought it was. Damage is down, and the motion starts from the bottom-left (facing right), making timing the move difficult. Plus she only swings it once, making it easier to miss. And yes, the voice sounds awfully young.
I should've know that the Zakuro is gone. For some reason I didn't. That really hurts, as it was a good anti-air.
As I said before, I wish the Kabari pulled the opponent in at least the same amount (or at least 90%) it goes out. From far range, the follow up, Zantetsu-sen, misses. As far as combos, I've only confirmed (counter) > Kabari.
At the very least, her Tsurane Sanzu-watashi does a lot more damage, but still, looks like Baiken is heavaliy powered down. I'll do more experimenting with her later.
As for videos, those KOF 01 vids weren't mine to begin with. I was just a middle man. But I'll see what I can do. Earliest I can get my camcorder back is this weekend, and I'd rather not go on weekend to record.
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| Chupiler 671th Post
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| "Old characters P3" , posted Thu 30 May 16:48
Faust
during Souten Enshin Ranbu Hana daro? Ore, hana darou?(Flower, right? I'm a flower, right?) A flower pops out of the ground about 1.5 characters away from Faust. Has an attackpoint. May be low hit.
Can now do Nani ga deru ka na? During the Souten Enshin Ranbu by pressing . Still is on his scapel.
New Move in airAi (Love): Tosses a bomb shaped like his head (bag). The explosion can hit both of you. If it hits, instant knockdown, so it is useful to keep the enemy at bay.
Ichigeki graphic is now changed.
Testament
Grave Digger graphic is changed. Seems more offensive. Also means more recovery time it blocked.
Exe Beast now only has the back version.
Warrant's command is now .
New Move HITOMI: Does a quick pose. If the opponent step on the spot he did the move, a tree pops out of the gournd. A "mine" move if you will. If you get hit it will disappear. I think 2 or 3 is the max you can set at once.
New Move Zei Nest(sp?) Swipes at the sky, setting a web similar to Kakyoin's Hierophant. If the opponent moves onto that spot, it sets off then stuns the opponent for a brief moment. Can do in the air. Max 2 nests. Do a 3rd and the 1st one automatically sets off. I heard that combos using this have damage reduction on it, but I haven't confirmed that. Probably Testament's new main weapon.
New Kakusei Master of Puppet Turns his scythe into a key and stabs the opponent. If it hits, you get 3 powered up versions of HITOMI, which is large and you can combo afterwards.
Well, times up for now. I'll get back to this later.
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| Chupiler 674th Post
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| "follow up" , posted Fri 31 May 03:46
Well isn't that nice, I write a report, and the stupid browswer dies on me.
I'll make this quick now.
I played GGXX some more today, and here's soem follow ups on the stuff I already reported.
Baiken
Combos mentioned before are counter only combos, I believe.
looks like her normal kick, but slower and mores forward.
After playing her with all the new info in my mind, here's my conclusion: relearn her. You have to play totally different from X.
Kabari. Good things I noticed: 1) pulls in even if they guard 2) does so in the air too.
Copmbos from (counter). Can keep slow people trapped with > Kabari > > Kabari......
Jump . Damaging. Problem is the angle is horizontal the the attack point is rather high, making it hard to finish air combos with. > jump > > > > did a nice 25% or so.
Baiken is going to rely a lot on the Sanzu-Watashi. (counter) > Kabari > > Sanzu-watashi did like 45%.
Jump Dust and Kabari RCing needs more experimenting.
Testament
Zei Nests combos don't seem to have damage reduction to me.
Max amount of HITOMI: 2. Like the Zei Nests, the 3rd will set off the 1st.
Sol
Forgot to mention he has Gun Flame Feint. Very useless considering the speed on the Gun Falme anyways, plus he does the entire motion, just without the flame.
Dragon Install is said to be weaker. I think it is. Who cares, since the Tyrant Rave alone is enough.
Ky
Stun Dipper (RC 1st hit) > Greed Sever seems to be a good hi-lo mix up.
Jump does a small cross. Comes out delayed, so I can't find a use for it.
Forgot to mention Ride the Lightning is possible in the air, but that was mentioned in the beta reports.
Combo I use:
dash > > > Sacred Edge > Sacred Edge
May
Loop combo doesn't loop anymore.
Both vertical and horizontal Iruka-san is HCable. You can combo it into a jump while falling or a Restive Rolling, but nothing more after that. Not much to do so far.
Ichigeki is as strong as always. Thought I saw Dizzy in there at first , but that can't be.
Axl
Hachisu-bako can atemi low hits as well as high.
Potemkin
F.B.D. Range: about 1/2 screen. Will reflect projectiles only if the finger hits it. Reflected projectile looks like his Gigantic Bullet.
Hammer Fall Brake > Potemkin Buster looks like a good trick.
Bow (overhead) is now . Staggers opponent on counters.
does a move where he sits down and puts his hands together, thrusting upward. Good anti-air. Quick, so use when the Heat Knuckle won't make it in time. Can combo > Heat Knuckle > Heat Extension. I wonder if the Heavenly Potemkin Buster will connect.
Faust
When doing the Nani ga deru ka na? during the Souten Enshin Ranbu, you can move again almost instantly. You cannot use it again until the item diappears.
Slayer
Crosswise Heel seems not to be unrecoverable. I tried to do CW Heel > Dead on Time, but the opponent recovered before falling into range. I guess Crosswise Heel > Eien no Tsubasa will have to do.
I tried the "cheap" trick of (Chi wo suu (Suck blood) > D Step)xN, but the cpu never fell for it, so it's possible to get out of.
I don't think I'll ever use the Chokka-gata Dandy, since it's blockable low.
Dead on Time in the move to use. Quick and powerful.
Damn no Gatling. Even worse, no combos from a low kick. Maybe > Dead on Time directly will connect.
So far, only combo I know:
J > > > > > Dead on Time
Bridget
New combo:
(opponent in corner)
dash > > > > Kick Start My Heart > Hassha > RC > ( > ) > jump > ( > ) > double jump > ( > ) > Starship
Maybe hard to keep the air combo going, so you can skip the double jump if you to. Also, only use one before the trip on heavier characters, or else the Hassha with miss or count as a follow up, allowing the opponent to get out.
Last I-no
You may wanna skip this and try her for yourself.
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Fight her normally. Guard low often. If ou get hit, quickly jam the joystick and quickly block.
Beam
When she loses a certain amount of energy she will jump back and do this move. (she does this move 4-5 times per round) "Warning" signs will appear in a path, then "Caution" then "Danger", then she fires a bunch of bits in the pattern. Get hit (or block) and all bits will be redirect ed to you.
There are 3 types of variation on the beam.
Up Curve
The signs will come out straight for 1/3 the screen, then curve up. Just sit at the opposite side as the opponent and the bits with fly above you.
Sine Wave
Makes a sine wave pattern.
Just stand underneath the safe spot and walk forward as it oscilattes.
Spread
Walk next to I-no. When it says "Danger", jump, double jump and FD.
DO NOT JUMP BEHIND HER
If you do the bits will automatically home in on you.
End of Spoiler
As usual, no one was playing, giving me room to experiment, but I don't get to test out vs human strategies.
Well, I'll try to do some more tomorrow. Nite.......
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| Chupiler 675th Post
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| "Old characters P4" , posted Sat 1 Jun 19:28
Now that I'm 50% up on my sleep, I can continue.
First off, don't expect any videos. I just got a new project in, making me busy for a while, so I can only really go on weekends now.
Dizzy
New Move in airorHitori ni shitekudasai Leave me alone): Tosses a bubble out. The bubble itself has no attack point, but if you attack it it will burst, and that has an attack point. It's pretty powerful. This with a combination of the Yoku Hanashi aite ni Natte imasu works as a good way to attack the oponent getting up. A move I need to experiment more with.
She can dash in the air twice now, like the previous game. (Couldn't in the early beta reports).
No Ichigeki added for her. Disappointing.
She doesn't have the old S version of her Yoku Hanashi Aite ni Natte kuremasu (the one that protected her). Instead it's anoter laser move.
In general, her Hanashi Aite is slower. There is a slight delay before it attacks.
Necro ga Okotta Baai seems to be less damaging.
Jam
Hochifu command is on  . It feels a lot more like blocking in SF3.
Her Kokyuu seems a bit slower now.
New Kakusei: Geki Hasshinshou. Does a palm upwards, and a pillar of flame with it. Damaging. They can't recover from it, so RC > combo looks nice.
Venom
Can make balls in mid-air now.
New Move: ororor Dubis Curve Does a backhand and forms a ball. A nice addition to Venom's moves.
Millia
New Move: in air Silent Force: She fires a strand of hair downwards in a diagonal direction. (looks kinda like her Living Lancer). It's quick and you can combo before and after it. You must pick up the strand or you can't use it again.
Lust Shaker can now be done with repeatedly.
Version of the Tandem Top comes out slower. Actually, what happens is an outline appears, then the actual Tandem Top appears.
Johnny
Mist Finer (Low lv 1) is slower to come out.
New move in air Ensen-ga. Swings his sword upward, producing flames. Pretty good damage. This is going to be his combo ender, and may be the key to GGXX.
Eddie
Has his Yami Kakato back (). Overhead, and stagger opponent. Can't do much after, but you can cancel, so it is useful.
After summoning Eddie, pressing does an overhead attack.
New move: in air Shadow Gallery. Eddie disappears, then pops up from th ground and attacks. He hits on the way up, then one more time to slam the opponent down. Looks like it can be used in air combos.
>Walchuk
I like around the LA area in California.
>U-fire
I believe he still has that combo.
And the Gun Flame is comboable.
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| Chupiler 677th Post
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| "Zappa" , posted Sun 2 Jun 02:59
Let me finish up on the 2 new characters. I didn't play them as much.
First off, Zappa.
I definitely need to experiment more with him.
. Spins aroung, hitting the opponent. Haven't found much use, but maybe in combos?
. He jumps forward onto the enemy. Overhead.
About Ghosts
While being possessed, your normal and special moves will change accrodingly to what ghost possessed you.
To become possessed:
Use the Mukade move (below) or get hit by the opponent (I don't know if the latter happens all the time, but sometimes I got hit and all of a sudden, I'm possessed).
To become unpossessed:
After a certain ammount of time, it will disappear, or get hit be opponent.
About Spirit Balls
Every time you hit the opponent with a specified move, you will get a predetermined amount of spirits. If you get the max (8), you can summon up a more powerful ghost, Lao.
The () at the beginning tells you what you need to be possessed with (or not).
The () right after it tells how many spirits you get (or not) for hitting the opponent with it.
(nothing)(3) Konnichiwa sanbiki no Mukade (Hello 3 centipedes). 3 Centipedes surround Zappa. Quick and seems to have invincibility, so good to use as an anti-air or to fend off a rush (not to mention it's his only move while not possessed). After this move, you will be possessed by 3 random ghosts, or Lao if you charge up 8 spirits.
Ghost
3 Ghosts will possess Zappa.
(Ghost) (1) or Sono mama kaete konaide kudasai (Please don't come back): Zappa flings 1 ghost at the enemy. goes straight while does an arc. Can do in the air. If it hits, the ghost will possess the enemy and the enemy will go into "Bad Luck Mode" where randomly golf balls fly toward the enemy, flower pots fall from the sky, or banana peels land in front of the enemy. You can throw up to 3 in a row before you hace to wait for the ghosts to come back.
Sword
A broken broad sword floats by Zappa.
(Sword) (1+3) then Itasou, tte iuka itai (That looks painful, actually it is): Dashes forward with the sword. When if hits, the sowrd will fly forward. Pressing will bring back the sword. If you leave the sword there you can control the word separately. I need to experiment more witht his.
(Sword) (1+1) Chikazuku to Ikimasu (If you get close, you'll die): The sword swings back and forth sideways. If it hits, the enemy will stagger. Slow to come out, though.
(Sword) (1) Ochitoite kudasai (Please fall): Those his blood upwards and forward. Good as an anti-air and good as a ground move as well.
Dog
The dog doesn't automatically follow you. If the dog is attacked it will disappear and you will revert to unpossessed mode (though your normal moves are the same here anyways).
You can do use the dog ANYTIME, including during your own attacks. I think the command are reversed if the dog gets on the other side.
The dog stretches its necka and bites. Quick and good range, but it takes a while to gain control again.
The dog dashes forward. Good range, and useful to get the dog near the opponent.
then The dog jumps backwards. Pressing again makes it pounces down at an angle. Overhead.
 Dog does a somersault kick. Get 1 spirit. Doesn't seems very good as an anti-air, though. I'll check on that next time.
Dog bites. Slow to come out and does little damage, but is unblockable. Adds 3 spirits.
Lao
You can only summon him once you have 8 spirits. It seems you can also call him if you have 5 and hit with Mukade.
Does a far-reaching lighting punch. Pretty quick.
then Darkness Anthem: Makes a ball of lightning. Pressing will make it fly forward. I could swear this can't be blocked in the air, but I'll confirm that next time.
Last Edguy: Swings lightning sword upward. Powerful anti-air.
Kakusei
Umareru! (They're being born!) Powered up versoin of Mukade. Looks and feels Marrow's Bone Burst.
Bellows Malice: Only can be done while Lao is possessing you. Think Kaede's Kasshin Seiryu. Swings a giant sword of lightning down. Powerful even if blocked. Chips a lot off life or Tension. But it doesn't hit if they're too close...
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| "Re(1):Whoops forgot something" , posted Sun 2 Jun 04:59
Sticks her guitar out. Not much range, but invincible on the top half.
Turns her guitar into a mike with a spiked ball stand, then kicks it up. Hits once when the mike comes out, and again with she kicks it. Then 2nd hit will knock the opponent away. The 1st hit has no range. Need more experimenting.
or Daimoku wo sasuru te (the hand that strokes wood): ...Don't ask. Anyways, she dashes forward then does an uppercut motion, making a sword protrude from the ground. Low hit. If it hits, the opponent will stagger. Difference between the 2 buttons is range.
Kouutsu Onkai (Anti-depressant Music Scale): You can do this in mid-air as well. Shoots a projectile from her hat. The farther the opponent is from I-no, the faster it goes and the more hits it does (up to 5). Right when you shoot it, pressing up or down adjusts the height at which it flies forward.
in airororor A dash move. - go at an angle, and goes sideways. goes at the more vertical angle, and at a more horizontal angle. is at the middle. You can delay the move by holding the button down. Quick recovery time for all except the one. Useful as an overhead (I believe the one doesn't count as an overhead).
Chemical Aijou (Love): Can be done in the air. She hops up and makes a shock wave that stretches across the screen. Kinda similar to Justice's Micheal Sword. Quick to come out, plus it knocks the opponent down, so it's useful as a combo finisher. Be careful, though. Because the attack point is high, it misses a lot on crouching opponents.
Kakusei
Madogiwa desperate (Desperate by the window): Shoots a 3 hit sonic wave forward. Short range, but is quick to come out = good in combos. Has invincibility time, so you can use to breack into rushes. I-no also can move around the same time the opponent can.
in air Genkai Fortissimo (Limit Fortissimo): Makes a giant shock wave surround her. Quick and useful in air combos. I believe it's an overhead.
Ichigeki
Rinsho Yuigon (Copied Will) Very short range, and no priority. If you manage to get it to hit, I-no will go on live, bouncing the enemy between speakers. But she uses her win poses, and for some reason I hate it......
I-no's dash is unique. It is similar to Morrigan's dash, as it goes up in an angle. It is less for getting near the opponent and more for rushing the opponent from mid-range with overheads. Good once you get used to it.
You will never fight the normal I-no in arcade mode.
I think I'l write comments, corrections, etc, maybe on Monday....
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