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| Chupiler 654th Post
 
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|  "RoD impressions"
, posted Tue 28 May 18:58
Well, they got RoD at one of the arcades I go to, and since at that time (Fri), I didn't know another arcade got GGXX, I blew $10 to get a good play of the game.
First thought: it's better than I expected.
Unfortunately, I already had my expectations way down there, so it was that much better.
I think whoever did the dot art should be fired. Half the characters feel so different from the original art (like Radel), while everyone else has gigantic beaks, er noses. Cassandra has huge feet and looks like a penguin...
Combo system. Dial-a-combo. I thought people learned after the Mortal Kombat system... The combos are either incredibly some (jump C > C > special) or preset (CD > AAACC > special). When you do the CD, the character spins (hovers) in the air, and you do the preset combo. Trying to do otherwise and you miss completely.
The walls are annoying. It's just that you can follow up with ANOTHER combo (exactly the same). EX: with Cassandra CD > jump AACCD > Raging Storm > wall > CD > jump > AACCD > Raging Storm. It's not like you have to change up depending on if it hit the wall. And after one time, the wall will just break next time you hit it.
Moves: Most of the moves I've seen somewhere, and those I haven't, I'm not too fond of. Cassandra's Innoscence is just a Mozu Otoshi, and Oni's moves resemble Freeman/Mature's. For someone who uses Exorcism + Boxing, I sense niether of those from Elias. And I don't get Pupa, using Capoeira, pulling out wrenches and throwing them. Radel = Yashiro. Period.
Duplex (double teams). The team only double teams aren't that much different. Just a special move combination. I was hoping fro original moves...
Defense. Just as in the beta reports (although this one is still beta too) air-guard = strong. I jump in blocking, block an ANTI-AIR, then counter-attack. Then there's the moves that you can't air-guard. Jump and your pretty much dead. So it would rank:
normal moves <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< air-guard <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< air-unguardable
So this game will turn into a waiting game.
AI. Unforgiving. You mess up, combo > wall > combo > half your health gone.
Boss. Some guy name Johann. Like the KOF games it copied, the boss in god-hard. Of course, if you find a pattern, you should be able to perfect him.
Other comments. Alice, on of the girls I like the design of, despite her psychotic look, has the most squeekiest, whiniest voice I've ever heard. Speaking of which, I wasn't too fond of the voice acting either.
Overall. This game would've been good say......5 or so years ago. The combo system really kills the game. There is no point in practicing since there are no combos to look for! I didn't like the character design (though I like the artist's work), and they jut put in too many girls.
There is nothing new or innovative in the gameplay, which really makes me wonder if Evoga was trying to even turn heads.
It may be harsh, but that's what I tought about it. There are people who seemed to have enjoyed it, but I'm not one of them. Even then, I don't know how long this game could last someone.
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| Freeter 2683th Post
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| "Re(1):RoD impressions" , posted Tue 28 May 19:19
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Combo system. Dial-a-combo. I thought people learned after the Mortal Kombat system... The combos are either incredibly some (jump C > C > special) or preset (CD > AAACC > special). When you do the CD, the character spins (hovers) in the air, and you do the preset combo. Trying to do otherwise and you miss completely.
Got that impression from the How to Play video. I guess going for the simplistic approach didn't work out for 'em...
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The walls are annoying. It's just that you can follow up with ANOTHER combo (exactly the same). EX: with Cassandra CD > jump AACCD > Raging Storm > wall > CD > jump > AACCD > Raging Storm. It's not like you have to change up depending on if it hit the wall. And after one time, the wall will just break next time you hit it.
Do they at least look like they're bouncing off the walls and not straight down like in the video?
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Duplex (double teams). The team only double teams aren't that much different. Just a special move combination. I was hoping fro original moves...
As long as they look as good as the Billy/Lynn one, I'm satisfied...
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Defense. Just as in the beta reports (although this one is still beta too) air-guard = strong. I jump in blocking, block an ANTI-AIR, then counter-attack. Then there's the moves that you can't air-guard. Jump and your pretty much dead. So it would rank:
normal moves <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< air-guard <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< air-unguardable
So this game will turn into a waiting game.
Yeesh.
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AI. Unforgiving. You mess up, combo > wall > combo > half your health gone.
Boss. Some guy name Johann. Like the KOF games it copied, the boss in god-hard. Of course, if you find a pattern, you should be able to perfect him.
Keeping the SNK tradition alive, I see...
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I didn't like the character design (though I like the artist's work), and they jut put in too many girls.
And putting in more females is a bad thing because...?
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There is nothing new or innovative in the gameplay, which really makes me wonder if Evoga was trying to even turn heads.
Considering they had to contend with Capcom and SNK's efforts, at least they tried to make something that wasn't totally stale.
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| Chupiler 655th Post
Red Carpet Regular Member
| "Re(4):RoD impressions" , posted Wed 29 May 02:24
Noooooo, nothing like the SamSpi 4 combos. Those were primarily for building guage, not damaging characters. Plus, there were combos outside of that. The problem here is that you have to rely on those combos. That really ruins the depth of the game.
Girls in fighters isn't a bad thing, but putting too much "softens" the atmosphere. Female boxing still isn't a huge thing you know :P
Charater designs: well, it's all opinion.
Win poses (ones I can remember):
Cassandra: looks down, graps one arm with the other, and wind blows. Unfortunately, it was this pose that made me notice how big her nose was...
Pupa: Pulls out a wrench (I think)
Annie: jumps up and down "Yatta yatta!" FOREVER. This got annoying quick.
Lynn: does some fake Chinese looking pose "Yoyuu da ne!"
Billy: puts on sunglasses "Simply the best!" (sounds like "simple is best" to me)
Oni: Says something
Johann: strikes a pose, and a black dragon comes out
That's all I can remember.
Johann is hard to describe. He doesn't have any special attributes. I guess his face looks like something from a biblical move (clean shaven though). Fights with one hand behind his back.
I laughed at the intro, how it said "They're back!" and only 3 are actually returning (and technically none are).
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| talbaineric 3357th Post
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| "Re(5):RoD impressions" , posted Wed 29 May 06:14
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Noooooo, nothing like the SamSpi 4 combos. Those were primarily for building guage, not damaging characters. Plus, there were combos outside of that. The problem here is that you have to rely on those combos. That really ruins the depth of the game.
Girls in fighters isn't a bad thing, but putting too much "softens" the atmosphere. Female boxing still isn't a huge thing you know :P
Charater designs: well, it's all opinion.
Win poses (ones I can remember):
Cassandra: looks down, graps one arm with the other, and wind blows. Unfortunately, it was this pose that made me notice how big her nose was...
Pupa: Pulls out a wrench (I think)
Annie: jumps up and down "Yatta yatta!" FOREVER. This got annoying quick.
Lynn: does some fake Chinese looking pose "Yoyuu da ne!"
Billy: puts on sunglasses "Simply the best!" (sounds like "simple is best" to me)
Oni: Says something
Johann: strikes a pose, and a black dragon comes out
That's all I can remember.
Johann is hard to describe. He doesn't have any special attributes. I guess his face looks like something from a biblical move (clean shaven though). Fights with one hand behind his back.
I laughed at the intro, how it said "They're back!" and only 3 are actually returning (and technically none are).
Yeah,this game's got plenty of fanservice! 
Thanks,Chuplier!
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| Dr Baghead 992th Post
Red Carpet Regular Member++
| "Re(1):RoD impressions" , posted Wed 29 May 09:24
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Well, they got RoD at one of the arcades I go to, and since at that time (Fri), I didn't know another arcade got GGXX, I blew $10 to get a good play of the game.
First thought: it's better than I expected.
Unfortunately, I already had my expectations way down there, so it was that much better.
I think whoever did the dot art should be fired. Half the characters feel so different from the original art (like Radel), while everyone else has gigantic beaks, er noses. Cassandra has huge feet and looks like a penguin...
Combo system. Dial-a-combo. I thought people learned after the Mortal Kombat system... The combos are either incredibly some (jump C > C > special) or preset (CD > AAACC > special). When you do the CD, the character spins (hovers) in the air, and you do the preset combo. Trying to do otherwise and you miss completely.
The walls are annoying. It's just that you can follow up with ANOTHER combo (exactly the same). EX: with Cassandra CD > jump AACCD > Raging Storm > wall > CD > jump > AACCD > Raging Storm. It's not like you have to change up depending on if it hit the wall. And after one time, the wall will just break next time you hit it.
Moves: Most of the moves I've seen somewhere, and those I haven't, I'm not too fond of. Cassandra's Innoscence is just a Mozu Otoshi, and Oni's moves resemble Freeman/Mature's. For someone who uses Exorcism + Boxing, I sense niether of those from Elias. And I don't get Pupa, using Capoeira, pulling out wrenches and throwing them. Radel = Yashiro. Period.
Duplex (double teams). The team only double teams aren't that much different. Just a special move combination. I was hoping fro original moves...
Defense. Just as in the beta reports (although this one is still beta too) air-guard = strong. I jump in blocking, block an ANTI-AIR, then counter-attack. Then there's the moves that you can't air-guard. Jump and your pretty much dead. So it would rank:
normal moves <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< air-guard <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< air-unguardable
So this game will turn into a waiting game.
AI. Unforgiving. You mess up, combo > wall > combo > half your health gone.
Boss. Some guy name Johann. Like the KOF games it copied, the boss in god-hard. Of course, if you find a pattern, you should be able to perfect him.
Other comments. Alice, on of the girls I like the design of, despite her psychotic look, has the most squeekiest, whiniest voice I've ever heard. Speaking of which, I wasn't too fond of the voice acting either.
Overall. This game would've been good say......5 or so years ago. The combo system really kills the game. There is no point in practicing since there are no combos to look for! I didn't like the character design (though I like the artist's work), and they jut put in too many girls.
There is nothing new or innovative in the gameplay, which really makes me wonder if Evoga was trying to even turn heads.
It may be harsh, but that's what I tought about it. There are people who seemed to have enjoyed it, but I'm not one of them. Even then, I don't know how long this game could last someone.
Hey Chupiler, is Abugo/Abobo/whatever he's called in this one still in? or has Johann completely replaced him as the boss role for the game? if he's still in does he do anything noteworthy (rip-off any characters I'd know of? have an insanely cheap supermove? anything?) or is he just another stale character?
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Ownage because Billy=Pimp 
